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Title: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: FullMetalGasket on December 06, 2020, 11:23:37 AM +0000
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=1252)

(https://i.postimg.cc/CMrBGj9B/Round-2.png)

Welcome to Round 2 at the Red Bull Ring near Zeltweg in Austria.
Ballast will be applied to last weeks victors/Victims as follows:

+20Kgs = Manteos
+15Kgs = FMG
+10Kgs = Lokanas
+ 5Kgs = Fabri

Red Bull Ring is just the most recent layout to exist on this site having (re) opened in 2011. Previously it was the A1 Ring, and prior to that it was the insanely fast Osterreichring.
We'll be using the mid-sized national layout for this round - which will likely favour cars with good peak speeds over last weeks handling circuit.

When joining the server please ensure you select the correct car.


Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Practice: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30  (2x 24 lap races)


Cars allowed:
Alfa 155 (+11Kg ballast, 10% (-42Hp) restrictor)
BMW M3 DTM (no handicap)
Ford Sierra R500 V3.03 (+20Kg Ballast, 45% restrictor (turbos don't respond the same as N/A before you ask!)
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ford-sierra-cosworth-rs500-pack.24027/
Mercedes 190E DTM (+6Kg ballast, 1% (-6.3Hp) restrictor).

IMPORTANT! Additional car skins added!
Jos has switched to the Dutch side and jumped into a Sierra with Maxime to form a team, as such he is now driving the #25 car from the same skin pack as Maxime - this was not included in the original skin pack so you'll need to download this update to avoid seeing a blank car.
Lokanas has also made a custom skin for his BMW so that is also included.
Please install as you did with the original pack, nothing should be over-written unless you already have it!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fa5f81fnyt8kqdu/new%20DTM%20skins.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/fa5f81fnyt8kqdu/new%20DTM%20skins.rar?dl=0)


Track: Red Bull Ring National
(Stock Kunos track - requires the Red Pack DLC)

The first lap of each race will be moderated - any incidents that require moderation beyond that point will require a report to be raised in the normal fashion.

Live Timing: here (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat) (Only available in the week up to the race)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 07, 2021, 10:18:37 AM +0000
Practice server now up and with extra ballast where appropriate :whistling:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: notbernie on January 08, 2021, 08:26:43 PM +0000
Forgive what might be a noob question folks, but is there a published etiquette anywhere? Is it, for example, the rules to give a place back if you accidentally punt somebody? ???? (guilty in race 1 this week folks, massive apologies to whoever it was I turned!)

--Mark (in a Cosworth; such fun! ????)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 08, 2021, 09:11:41 PM +0000
A tiny piece of light bedtime reading for you ;)

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: notbernie on January 08, 2021, 09:20:40 PM +0000
Thanks FMG!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: Fabri Fibra on January 10, 2021, 12:27:36 AM +0000
Forgive what might be a noob question folks, but is there a published etiquette anywhere? Is it, for example, the rules to give a place back if you accidentally punt somebody? ???? (guilty in race 1 this week folks, massive apologies to whoever it was I turned!)

--Mark (in a Cosworth; such fun! ????)

No problem. Race accident and you also waited for me. Fairplay.  :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: IbnSolmyr on January 10, 2021, 12:55:24 AM +0000
What a soulless track honestly. I get that we can expect loads of action but that track really lets me as cold as the coming snow..  ::)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 10, 2021, 09:28:27 AM +0000
It's not got much soul has it? ;D

But the track list was also picked to equalise the series - as much as possible we have an equal number of tracks that favour top speed, acceleration, handling and braking.
By now you should have a pretty good idea which car specialises in which, this track is a power/top speed circuit - so sorry in advance to the Ford guys, although I'm looking forward to seeing the battles that will ensue as you'll have the upper hand in much of the back section and of course, the braking zones.

Anyway, boring tracks often make for great racing - so I hope this one is no exception.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 11, 2021, 08:24:16 AM +0000
IMPORTANT! Additional car skins added!

Jos has switched to the Dutch side and jumped into a Sierra with Maxime to form a team, as such he is now driving the #25 car from the same skin pack as Maxime - this was not included in the original skin pack so you'll need to download this update to avoid seeing a blank car.
Lokanas has also made a custom skin for his BMW so that is also included at the same time.
Please install as you did with the original pack, nothing should be over-written unless you already have it!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fa5f81fnyt8kqdu/new%20DTM%20skins.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/fa5f81fnyt8kqdu/new%20DTM%20skins.rar?dl=0)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 11, 2021, 08:58:19 AM +0000
The server has now been restarted with the updates added  :)

If you installed the above package before 11:40 (UK time) then please re-download and re-install the package.

Please ensure you grab them and install prior to the race!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: Mark J on January 13, 2021, 09:43:46 AM +0000
This is going to be very close racing tonight looking at the stracker times  :o  Some very quick laptimes being set, everytime i improve by a few tenths and move up the times, then someone else goes a few tenths even quicker  ::)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: Bob on January 13, 2021, 03:17:42 PM +0000
 ;D It's seconds I need to find, not tenths.....


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: Syd Drake on January 13, 2021, 09:49:17 PM +0000
I run AC through content manager. And when we run two races like this, CM only saves the second race.  I checked in settings - Assetto Corsa - Miscellaneous and limit for races is set to 10, max size is 1100mb. Anybody else using CM and getting both races saved?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: Fabri Fibra on January 13, 2021, 10:18:01 PM +0000
I did two very bad races. Race 2 probably the worst ever. :angel: My mind was elsewhere.
Hard to do worse.

Congratulations to everyone because despite the tight positions there were no contacts.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: Manteos on January 13, 2021, 11:02:24 PM +0000
In case you need it, you can download my replay from this link => https://drive.google.com/file/d/15_UmlQ_N8wrw8OH1S-rNVsV2Vjf07EIO/view?usp=sharing

Abuot my races. I did 3 stints in qualif session, and I nailed only 1 lap with softs which earned me the pole position. Adding to this that Fabri gained the 2nd place, has put me in the best possible situation.
So I could exploit the pitched battle that was taking place behind me, escaping from the group until Fabri stood in 2nd position, gaining almost 5 seconds on my rivals. When I saw that the good Jos had the better of his "enemies", I knew that he'd have catch me before the checkered flag, after I tried the Sierra yesterday on H, as I was almost a second slower on meds with my Alfa during the last 5/6 laps.
Luckily Jos bumped on my back only in the last 2 laps, and with a gearbox that was at the very end of his working life, I managed to keep the lead sweating like a fountain  ;D

Bravo Jos! Great race mate!

Race 2:

This time I had no more faithful teammates to exploit :angel: and Jos was pushing very hard during the first 3 laps. So I had to push even harder to keep Jos at a "safe" distance. Luckily this time I found an unexpected ally in Tim  :P, that was surely helpful for my race. As he was fighting with Jos tooth and nail I managed to put a gap of 4.5 seconds circa, escaping another time from a possible comeback of the following chaps during the last laps. This time I was trashing my gearbox even more badly than race 1  ;D, going wide in a couple of corners losing a lot of time and giving the chance to Tim to catch me at the last lap. I have to admit that I was really really really lucky this time, as I did the last scratching bonus downshift right at the last corner. Another lap and I'd have finished last.

But this never happened so.... c'mon Alfa! You can do it ;D ;D ;D

See you guys :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: Syd Drake on January 14, 2021, 12:12:22 AM +0000
Thanks for the replay. And congrats, 4 wins in a row.
Sorry to Mark J for contact in the first race. I just couldn't quite hold my line and slid into you and we both spun. At least you didn't lose any positions.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: Mark J on January 14, 2021, 09:22:36 AM +0000
First off, well done to 'Nici Larini' Matteo on his two race wins  :notworthy:

Second, how great did a grid of these colourful race-cars look?  :tt1: i was racing through content manager so Austria was blanketed in snow, it looked stunning  8)

Had two decent-ish races but for some reason lacked the outright speed to compete in the top 6 despite being right in the mix through the pre race practise sessions  ??? Seeing how very close the times were through practise and qually i expected to be glued into a pack of cars the whole race yet most of us got oddly strung out within a few laps, though generally i had one or two cars to fight closely in the opening laps of each race. Once i shrugged off/battled my closest challengers i generally had a big gap that i couldnt close to the top 5  :(
I suffered gear box damage and ruined rear tyres in both races mind  :P

Kudos to the front running pace, and Jos made a quantum leap in pace over night  :o  :notworthy:

Enjoyed some good fights and proper TC door rubbing!  :fencing:

@Syd, no worries, that downhill cambered turn is a tricky one to run so closely in combat. I had several side by sides through there with you, Kimi and Jari at different points. :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: Jos Ogos on January 14, 2021, 09:57:50 AM +0000
A tremendous couple of races yesterday. Not only the fights were great but there was also the extra dimension of who I was fighting against. Yes, both Tim and Matteos had some ballast but, hey that's a little detail without significance  ::)... In any case, I wasn't counting with such a race against them anytime soon (not even on my dreams... Both being such extraordinary talents!).

Another fantastic factor that worked for us in the Sierra yesterday was the awful tendency that the Ford seems to have in wearing out its tyres... For this race distance, however, shifting to Hard tyres gave us a great pace at the end of the race when virtually everybody else was struggling with their Mediums. Thus I could feel Matteo's sweating at the end of the first race XD

RACE 1: Starting in 6th, I was preparing for a fight against Lorenzo and Mindaugas, assuming that Fabri, Tim and Matteos would disappear in the horizon after a few laps... But after a pretty good start, I found myself in 4th behind Tim and with good pace. The fight between Fabri, Tim and I gave Matteos a good breathing space and, after a compromised attempt by Tim to overtake Fabri I found myself in a position I thought it would only happen in another life... Challenging Tim for position!? And I went through. LOL, I could have retired from simracing after T1 and that overtake (even if it was aided by the compromised position Tim was at the beginning of the straight...). With renewed confidence I went after Fabri and, as if I had lost 200kg after the previous overtake, I got Fabri at the same place in the next lap... Wow! Next was Matteos but he was already 5 secs ahead... I had no idea yet that the tyres were going to give me the advantage at the end of the race but I had to push anyway as Tim hadn't, of course, said his last word on the battle and P2 wasn't going to be given away without a fight... The threat from Tim kept me focused and charging... And Matteos tyres were deteriorating much faster than my Hs... Those couple of final laps with the lapped drivers were amazing.
Fantastic drives by Matteos and Tim. Being sandwiched between them was really a privilege. Great race guys.  :notworthy:
Here the video of the race: https://youtu.be/7uHB3-z3IWg (https://youtu.be/7uHB3-z3IWg)

RACE 2: Now I knew tyres were going to play a role and starting 2nd after Matteos was potentially a great chance for a win. I just needed to stay behind him for the first 2/3s of the race and then smoothly transition to 1st when his tyres dissipated... 8) But Tim had different plans for the race... Containing such a great attack was tough. I was feeling the pressure. Matteos was gaining breathing space again. I made a terrible mistake at the beginning of Wurth engaging 1st instead of 3rd. That was the section on the track that I was a bit faster than Tim and the remaining was faster for him... Conclusion: He got me in the following T1. But I had gained a bit of confidence against godlike Tim after the first race, so had something more to say... And that overtake on T2 (minute 5 of the second race...) Every mile I have done on the simulator since I started 5 years ago went through my mind during that overtake  :angel-wings:. Suddenly everything made sense and I could happily retire from simracing having achieved the impossible (LOL).
 
There was much more race ahead of us. Tim came back in a superior charge and the close racing in T1 a couple of laps later gave him again the advantage. This time Mindaugas was also there and got the best of me and ahead! In the ongoing battle we touched and I could only wait for him to recover... Lorenzo and Mindaugas went through. Tim was gone for good. A new race, fighting with Mindaugas for 4th and, who knew, with Lorenzo for 3rd was panning out. Great fight with Mindaugas (thanks for the close racing)... And then, the final lap... Lapped cars and Lorenzo at reach... That T2 yesterday was miraculous for me. Loved it!

Video of the second race: https://youtu.be/uo9sOmGqFOI (https://youtu.be/uo9sOmGqFOI)

Hope you enjoy the video of the races.

Finally a mention to my teammate Maxime. Thanks to his great eye for the car selection. This shift to the Ford has been great. And, whilst we have a different way of driving and setting up the car, I always picked up something good from his engineering abilities. Yesterday I gained a couple of tens thanks to tweaks from his settuping. Thanks mate!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: Mark J on January 14, 2021, 10:30:59 AM +0000
crumbs i forgot the front guys also had success ballast ...that makes me even more depressed  :surrender: :wacko:

Great post Jos,  ;D look forward to watching your great onboard vids as usual  :thumbup1:

and Maxime, cut out the engineering help will ya  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: Jos Ogos on January 14, 2021, 10:31:37 AM +0000

Kudos to the front running pace, and Jos made a quantum leap in pace over night  :o  :notworthy:


Thanks Mark. I'm totally ecstatic with yesterday's races... But my feet will get back to touching the ground in the next race  ;D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: Lorenzo Galluzzi on January 14, 2021, 12:41:49 PM +0000
Pretty good results for me yesterday, great fights with Fabri in race 1 and with Jos in race 2. I was quite optimistic about podium in the second run, but Jos came from the back with a great pace( probably the girls on my roof are too attractive) and passed me on T2.

See you in Nogaro!

Regards

Lorenzo
 


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: Lokanas on January 14, 2021, 02:01:02 PM +0000
Great time yesterday, despite my awful drive.
One more Wednesday to remind me I'm racing real gentlemen - all racing happens without any contacts (in tin-top class!), the only guy having contacts happens to be me :)
My apologies to Kai in race 1 for a dent on a trunk lid - I was too optimistic on your braking point. Luckily I did not destroy Your race.
Thanks to Tim DK San for waking a hope in me that I can try to imagine what it feels to chase someone who's just drifting their Mercedes around Austrian mountains for fun :)
Also thank You one more time to Jos for amazing sportsmanship and merci beaucoup to Maxime for showing me what persistent pressure feels like on a victim side.
You two showed me how those pointy noses of Sierras get into the gaps my slow self was leaving.

Thank You for the great racing everyone!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: IbnSolmyr on January 16, 2021, 10:09:47 PM +0000
Finally a mention to my teammate Maxime. [...] And, whilst we have a different way of driving and setting up the car, I always picked up something good from his engineering abilities. Yesterday I gained a couple of tens thanks to tweaks from his settuping. Thanks mate!

Oh, you mean when I go in the car settings, see all those parameters in all those tabs, get afraid and feel depressed, call my 2 cats to give me a hug and they end having a contest right on my keyboard and mouse, then I click on "Drive" ?! Yes, I'm pretty good at that. :angel:

Well done Jos for a tremendous race. Congrats to Matteo for his imperial 2nd double win.
Thanks all for racing, especially Lokanas for nice clean racing !


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 2 - Zeltweg - Jan 13
Post by: Jos Ogos on January 17, 2021, 06:25:21 AM +0000
Oh, you mean when I go in the car settings, see all those parameters in all those tabs, get afraid and feel depressed, call my 2 cats to give me a hug and they end having a contest right on my keyboard and mouse, then I click on "Drive" ?! Yes, I'm pretty good at that. :angel:
LOL, that's a competitive advantage for our team, Maxime. Are they called 'Gordon Murray' and 'Patrick Head' for a chance? If not, you should consider renaming them  ;D.