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Welcome to Round 4 of the DTM season at the legendary Avus circuit just outside of Berlin.
Ballast will be applied to the following drivers as follows:

+20Kgs = Manteos
+15Kgs = FMG
+10Kgs = Jos
+ 5Kgs  = Fabri

Avus dates back as far as 1921 when the first race was held on the original circuit, the early 90's layout we'll be racing on is far removed from that though as it's just over 2Km long and mostly features left turns - with a chicane and a single right hander thrown in for variation. We'll be using the slightly wider on-line variant of the circuit to lessen the chances of any multi-car pileups occurring on the exit of the chicane.

When joining the server please ensure you select the correct car.


Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Practice: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30  (2x 22 lap races)


Cars allowed:
Alfa 155 (+11Kg ballast, 10% (-42Hp) restrictor)
BMW M3 DTM (no handicap)
Ford Sierra R500 V3.03 (+20Kg Ballast, 45% restrictor (turbos don't respond the same as N/A before you ask!)
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ford-sierra-cosworth-rs500-pack.24027/
Mercedes 190E DTM (+6Kg ballast, 1% (-6.3Hp) restrictor).


Track: Avus (wide)
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/avus-dtm-90s.27853/

EXTRA CAMERAS
Avus only comes with 1 camera file - so I've made some more!
FMG cam 1 is slightly more biased at single car shots. 2 is more for multiple cars - the Static cams are really intended for big grids..
Grab 'em here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/00xvua0jyau7jxs/Avus%20Cameras.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/00xvua0jyau7jxs/Avus%20Cameras.rar?dl=0)
These go into the '*your steam directory*\steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\tracks\avus_dtm\normal\data' folder (you'll see the other camera file if you're in the right place).

The first lap of each race will be moderated - any incidents that require moderation beyond that point will require a report to be raised in the normal fashion.

Live Timing: here (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat) (Only available in the week up to the race)

Time of Day Setting: 15:00
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Sorry for the delay - sorting out the results yesterday took a while!

Server is now up with corrected ballasts :)

There is a password on the server. Lately server has been password free for practice? The usual one I tried didn't work.

Sorry - I know what that'll be. I always upload the race files and then edit them to make the practice server, I've obviously forgotten to remove the password :-[

It'll be off by 08:00 this morning!

Better here, for those unfamiliar with this track.

eek  :o
Avus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Elw6lde2YA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Elw6lde2YA)  Racing starts 10mins in.

We're gonna need handbrake, rally style :).

Fantastic document Mark, very relevant. Thanks a lot for bringing this to us.

I did a quick test yesterday with the Sierra, including the ballast, and I'm quite worried if the pole time (53.27!?) from the real DTMs is around the top times in the online race. I was nowhere close to those times  :o

The other important issue the video brings, for Tim to consider, is the events on L1 hairpin and red flagging the race... Would we do the same if that happens next Wednesday? I know that some online platforms explicitly say that, under no circumstances, a race would be restarted... But I would think restarting would be the right approach in Avus if something like this happens...

Thoughts?

The problem with that is that I'm a driver and fully intend to be up front where I won't see any carnage - this makes re-starts near impossible as we won't have an independent non-driving steward watching things. Additionally the cause of the incident prior to the re-start would HAVE to be recorded for later moderation and I'm not sure how AC would handle replays in that situation.

T1 is a major risk for a pileup (Same will go for Norrisring later in the series) but so far we've done incredibly well. I don't know if that's the mandatory moderation of L1 (I am checking and I'm liking what I see - things are much more careful than they have been in the past) or just that we're maturing as drivers..

If we had a series commentator maybe that would be a job for them here - but as we don't I say just be careful as we have no reliable way of declaring re-starts on the night.

I know GPL have additional penalties in place for L1 incidents for some events - I'm not sure if they are standard here in the rest of Srou, but they can be adopted in the future if needed. I won't change important parts of the rules this close to an event though - someone may have actually read them and could get upset ;)

I understand the complexity at this stage and the lack of a reliable method with no stewards available. Let's hope for the best then. But that T1 is trouble even with us all trying our best. Good luck to us.

How about an Orange zone for lap 1 for this track? Hit someone from behind and you have to take a drive-thru penalty?  Works very well in the Porsche cup series with a 30+ car field. You still get to race but you will find everyone now gives a little space to the cars around them on cold tyres/brakes. Win-win  :)

But have to say i was very impressed with the lap1 in both races at Nogaro. Near 20 cars through those tight turns was excellent  :thumbup1:

I think we leave it for now - If there is a blatant problem then we can look at something like the 'Orange zone' for the next really bad event (I.e. Norrisring, I think the rest should be good).
That will give time for rules and penalties to be put down and considered well in advance, there is a very real risk that introducing things at this stage will lead to confusion - especially if someone isn't ready all the posts in the thread.

An Orange zone will need very clear rules behind it I think in order to work fairly.

ps can i use my new handbrake to get around the hairpin?  ;D  (I bought it for Dirt Rally2 really)

No handbrake required, just kick the clutch.  ;D

I bet there's a good chance this time to destroy Alfas, especially for BMW. So I'm prepared to a full race battle against everone, and already mounted rostrums on the wheels of my chariot...  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I would be just curious to try Tim's setup for Merc. I always hated that car, and never been fast with it. Even if it's difficult to put together the perfect lap, BMW has a potential laptime in my hand of 55.2. Instead, after 50 laps with Merc, if I put together my best intermediate, I'm half a second slower in it. Merc has a good top speed, a good braking, a good cornering speed, but when it's time to record a timed lap it comes out I'm always slower in it. ::) ::)

Did you mean 54.2?

Sure Jos, you're right :)

You'll have to wait - I haven't made one yet!
Too busy pulling the G25 apart and trying out a new Flight stick.

I've had a quick go in the Caymans for tomorrow but aren't sure when I'll be trying these

Last wednesday was not my last race with the g25, I bought a g920, I just can't drive it and I think tomorrow I'll send it back to Amazon. Has anyone had the same experience as me?

Does it have an FF preset for AC? If not then it might be worth googling first to see if you can find recommended settings.
Otherwise I'm afraid I can't help as I haven't spent all my money yet!

Matteo has kindly suggested to use a software to modify the FFB settings and to generate a LUT file, i'll try to go in that way and watch what happen.

Now it is completely undrivable, no way to control the car properly.

Cripes, i havent done a lap yet  :o will hopefully jump on this evening and learn the new track. I can see i am very behind the amount of lappage done on stracker  :o

Watching that Avus YT video with the Merc out in front driven by 'Thim'..i was thinking hang on a minute.... :detective:  Also did you see the huge pile up in race 2?  :o Gives a clue what could go wrong with this combo  :P

I upload my setups, even if usually my teammates states they're rubbish :D Don't be angry with me in this case. I never touch default suspention in any case, so you'll notice just slightly difference by default set.

For a better braking just follow what Tim said ;)

These are the links to my drive for download the single folder. Put these files inside the correct location. For example: open the "avus_dtm_Mercedes" and copy/paste those files into this directory: ...documents/Assetto Corsa/setups/ks_mercedes_190_evo2/avus dtm

Merc Setup: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zq4NOivoJlGsGSae-3-vUGhuhrZoww0Y?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zq4NOivoJlGsGSae-3-vUGhuhrZoww0Y?usp=sharing)

Sierra setup: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wBFAvhtJI9eAtj_UvyFZfkBYQwlleHtV?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wBFAvhtJI9eAtj_UvyFZfkBYQwlleHtV?usp=sharing)

BMW setup: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1USTDO1ZxpNQsYuc61y321SG55TikDpNC?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1USTDO1ZxpNQsYuc61y321SG55TikDpNC?usp=sharing)

ALFA setup: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pP-KNnslYNHC-YiIRNyAtSqQRoMfdoFk?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pP-KNnslYNHC-YiIRNyAtSqQRoMfdoFk?usp=sharing) This is my actual setup for the race. Fabri suggested me to modify splitter from 1 to 2, but I had no time to try it. Do it by yourself and see if your laptime improve :)

I've just uploaed some extra cameras for this track - you can grab them from the 1st post :)

I hope I can do this race chaps, but I'm not sure of it at the moment. It's possible that I'll have to make a looooong work videocall after dinner. In that case I won't have any chance to join these races. It depends in part on me, so I'll try to do my best to finish earlier, but can't assure nothing :(

Can't you have diner behind the wheel Matteo? Avus is only some straights...

Not the most exciting track in the world, but that braking zone for the hairpin is something in these cars  :o Trying to drop 6 gears and braking without snaking from full chat  :P Then the Beemer suffers with a long first gear so is tardy out of it.
Got some laps in last night, but not enough, still off the pace  :(

I'm not sure about that, Mark. It's obviously not too complex but, considering it's just a couple of straights, a chicane, hairpin and parabolic, it does offer a lot being quite technical and full of challenges... I quite like it.

Looking at the timing I think the first 8 or 9 individual times are within 0.6 of a sec - provided we can manage braking into T1 safely I think this round will be anything BUT boring :D

Is there a penalty for straight lining chicane.  ;D

Having discovered the bales are soft last night I'll be keeping an eye on the chicane - I think you'll scrub a lap by cutting so there should be no advantage in qually.
I'm finding it faster to go the longer way around the curbs anyway, as less air time = more acceleration ;) Although the replay looks cooler when hopping over the 3 kurbs.

As the chicane counts as the edge of track so I will expect at least one wheel on the 'track' side of the kurb (or beyond the white line - I can't remember if there's a white line off the top of my head).

I'll ignore mistakes or forced avoidance etc, but intentional cutting will be frowned upon and moderated accordingly :euro:

 >:( Not my kind of racing, I'm out.

My replay
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Jt7HiTZoimOY1t_7aRNIcdYVy9CLOfC/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Jt7HiTZoimOY1t_7aRNIcdYVy9CLOfC/view?usp=sharing)

I'll leave a comment about these beautiful races tomorrow :)

Cu :)

Wow, that was fast, like a certain driver, don't know if you know him, an italian mafioso of the tracks, "Matteo" as he's called..  ;) ;D
Thank you, I had to check if I was guilty in any way for the Bob's crash, thankfully not.  :angel:

@ Bob : You aren't quitting the series, are you ?..  ??? ::)

By the way, does anyone know why AC doesn't allow for record of the 1st race in those doubled events ?  ???
Or is it only at my end ? In my autosaved replays, I never can find the 1st race.  :( (Not using CM but stock AC launcher)

I'm using CM and I too only get the second race saved, even though in the settings I set the limit for races to 10.

If I'm not wrong there's a MB limit that AC will apply to the replay in settings menu. If you set it too low, he will record only the most recent part until you disconnect from the server. So you will usually have recorded only second race in this way. Check for it inside settings. There must be an option to tell AC that you want no limit to the MB of the replay

Two mixed races for me. Got taken out at T1 in race 1 and 2  :( I wont be too harsh on anyone as it was a bastich of a corner almost inviting contact. It was more painful in race 1 as it left me so far behind the pack of cars that i had no chance of enjoying some battles and spent most of the race on my tod. I finally got past a couple of cars and pulled a healthy gap for many laps but then on lap 18 of 22 i downshifted to 1st instead of 3rd in the parabolica  :o instant 180 degree spin and lost my two gained places back  :taz:  Rubbish, but the early laps before the contact were great fun.

Second race was again brilliant in the early laps, proper touring car racing, but when i turned in to T1 tight to the apex after overtaking a car under braking that was on my outside, a Sierra inexplicably decided to try and close off the apex from i assume a too-deep braking point or earlier contact?, as it speared across my nose from the right, leaving me nowhere to go.  ??? Of course i then got hit by about two other cars....grrr. That was really annoying as i'd had good pace upto then. Once again i was left chasing ghosts, other than getting past the odd car, but at least enjoyed a fantastic chase to the end with the Hooters Merc. Finished a poor reward 11th though.  :'(

The cars looked and felt pretty epic here, no wonder they used it many times for DTM. Going flat out through the 2nd sector was pretty intense in combat with other cars  8) Such a shame this isnt broadcast as bet the fast moving train looked superb. Not even got Jos' onboards this time i guess as he retired early?

Im thoroughly enjoying this season but cant seem to catch a lucky break results wise.

I got first 5 minutes of race 2 here   ;D :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMyhie_Le4o

Nice Syd, good to see some of the action.  :)

I was hoping to see what happened at T1 in race2 after several laps. After writing my earlier post i saw Jos had pm'd me thinking it was my fault, whilst i think it was the white sierra's fault (which may be Jos' car?) will watch Matteos replay file later. If unclear, then Tim can put his judges hat on. :angel:

Avus without crashes just wouldn't have been Avus!..

When I entered the server I noticed my VR headset was black... rebooted and still down. Hard reset solved the issue, but I had missed qually.  AMD software and Oculus are not the easiest of combo's.
So for heat 1 there was a lot of action going on in front of me. Could stay out of trouble and started gaining places. I kept it nice and smooth so I had still tire left in the final stages and managed a 5th or 6th place after long battles with Syd and Kai I believe.
For heat 2 my starting position was better and exited T1 in P5. Had some good hard battles with Syd, Lokanis, Kai and Maxime I think. One misjudged overtake manouvre into T1 saw a possible P3 disappear from me, but happy overall with all the action all around. Racing seemed fair across the field.

Boring cars? on a boring track=great racing action!

Results are now up (sorry for the delay - busy day in the virtual office).
Don't worry about reporting any incidents from Lap 1 of either race - I'll shortly be adding them myself, I believe there are 1 from each race but will be double checking them both.

For any other incidents please raise them through the links under the relevant race - Ideally please get them in by Saturday evening so I have a chance to try and go through them before our next event :)

My race 1 was a disaster. I made two bad mistakes (alone) that are truly embarrassing. Race 2 went a little better, but not too much. The only good things were the duels with Maxime and Syd.

I am not very focused lately and I am making several mistakes. So despite having a good pace, I am getting mediocre results.
I absolutely have to increase my performances if I want to renew the contract with the official team Alfa.  :angel:

What can I say for my own races last night? Finally I beat the Alfiosi in a round ;D

I made the age old mistake of changing my qualifying setup - the result is clear in the results, I went faster on mediums halfway into the race than I managed on the Softs from Qualifying ::)

Starting 4th had me worried as that put me in reach of more of the Alfas for the start - luckily I was to the inside so didn't only hold position, but gained a spot thanks to Mindaugas scuttling his own race in T1.
I'd actually forgotten how much of a fight I then had with Kai - I think this is because of the epic battle we later had in Race 2 - but after he made a mistake in the final turn I was clear and free to go after Matteo.
At first we were running very similar pace, but I knew from his comments in previous rounds that his tires would go off before mine. Add to that my happiness when running with 'less' grip and I knew I should catch up to him before the end of the race.
Shortly after half way this prediction came true and I started to slowly gain on him. After another 5 laps the speed difference was enough that I was on his tail.

Now the hard part - passing someone with 4WD on a course with a 40KPH hairpin...
Luckily Matteo didn't cover me on my first dive down the inside as we passed the S/F line, I also managed to nail my braking and run him into the leaves on the outside of the corner - that was just enough to get in front for the crazy fast 2nd sector.
I covered him into the right hander as I thought he looked pacey enough to consider going inside, this forced me to tap my brakes and slow in order to make the corner - Matteo didn't expect that and absolutely hammered my rear end (ohh err). I must admit I had been concentrating so hard on making the corner that I didn't realise just how hard he hit me until watching the replay. Sorry about that :-[
Once clear I managed to make my slightly better handling and greater agility pull me clear of any counter-attacks and could concentrate on clean laps to the end.

Well done to Matteo and Mindaugas on the Podium - bad luck to Kai, I'm guessing that you suffered from a sudden change in handling when your tires reached the yellow stage? For some reason that didn't get me here but I had major issues with it at Nogaro when practicing.

Race 2 looked to be going well, I'd held onto 2nd at the start (I was never going to out drag an Alfa :ban: ) and had big pace and grip advantages in the final sector.
The trouble was that Matteo knew full well that covering T1 was key to holding position. In the Alfa you can compromise T1 as much as you need to because the extra grip will always get you out of the corner faster than your attacker.
As a result I moved my attacks to T3 as my crazy Asymetrical setup allowed for a much tighter and faster line, the problem was that the racing line forced me to brake behind the car I wished to pass in order to then get inside them in the first 3rd of the corner.
Doing that meant initiating a 4 wheel drift in order to carry the speed and make the turn - this made my tires hate me and resulted in my having to maintain that drift for the remaining 3/4s of the turn to match Matteo's wider line ;D
I managed to stay clean and not collect Matteo, but never quite managed to still be to his inside as we entered the S/F straight - had I managed that there would be a very real chance of my taking the win again.

Favourite moments for me in race 2 have to be the point where Kai decided to fight absolutely tooth and nail for 2nd and went through the chicane next to me - we both gave each other room but also stayed within the track limits as much as possible - great driving 8)
2nd was went I went full Initial D in my biggest attack on Matteo through T3, it was my most successful attack and felt wonderful as I simply stood on the throttle and drifted my nose up inside his car - his lines had shifted by this point as I think he had worked out my tactic, so I could almost hear his voice saying 'oh no you can't' just before I did ;D

Anyway, some absolutely great racing last night - most of what went on elsewhere seems pretty clean and fair too from what I saw while randomly hopping around the field in the replay.

Forgot to ask last night - Has this sorted you out?
My biggest worry as I'm having to get a new wheel is that the FFB will be ruined, as basic as a G25 is these days it still feels wonderful quite frankly in AC....

Not at all! I tried to use the software Matteo suggested, and some LUT files found on Racedepartment, but almost nothing has changed.

I decided to send back the g920 and to drive again with my g25, such good feeilngs with it! Your concerns are legitimate Tim ;)

Talking about the races, the positive thing is that i didn't blew up any gearbox, starting to be confident with Hell-Toe and H shifter. The next goal will be the performance.

Regards

Lorenzo

That's a shame :(

I'll be ordering a Thrustmaster TS-XW base plus wheel at the weekend, plus the load cell pedals when they are back in stock (I'm going SSH shifter) so will let you know my impressions when it arrives - Fabri tells me that the AC devs he knows rate TM stuff above Fanatec so we'll have to see....

As I said to Lorenzo about the G29, he is not the only one lamenting this issue. I don't know if the G29 and G920 have some difference in this aspect, but I managed to solve the issue of a poor FF strenght, especially in the center part of the wheel with that "LUT" procedure (G29 is the one with Playstation logo - G920 is that with XBox logo).
Apart the fact that I guess they should have the same functions, even one of my VDA mate decided to send back the wheel after a couple of hours (before checking this "LUT" procedure). I remember that was painful to go through the procedure described in the message I sent to Lorenzo and I'm wondering if that went wrong in some way. To be honest, the "default setup" of the G29 if compared to my old G25 was a step back in simdriving experience, but with the LUT I was satisfied to make that engines working properly and I decided to stay on it.
If someone of you is unsatisfied about his "default" G29 and interested in this procedure to modify FFB wheel strenght I'll send you the links to RD.
However, as I said to Lorenzo, at least in Italy, if you want to step up your simdriving experience there's a sensible difference in terms of price between a G29 and a T300 for example, and with the last one you earn a 90's Thrustmaster pedal board ??? (tell me the term you use in England if I'm wrong :P) without clutch  ::) ::) ::) ::)

Talking about the beautiful aspects of simracing I have to say that even if I was a chicken during race 1, these 2 races were absolutely pure fun.

Despite a poor 4th place in qualif (for a damned millisecond by Mr.Muttram :D) I exploited my 4WD Power to take the lead at turn 1, with a momentt of scrapping paints with Kai?!? as in a real TC race at the exit of the first bend ;D
By that moment I just did my best pace ever, but was not enough to keep a devilish Tim behind my back for more than 12 or 13 laps. I stay on my previous opinion about myself, as I stupidly give the chance to him to take the inside after I tried some duels with my Confessor "Father Jos" a couple of days ago  ;D (It's always Jos' fault  ;D ;D). Unlike the braking in the previous laps Tim managed to stay tight on the inside at the bend and simply cheated me  :D 400 meters later I was drafting on his tail, without any intention to try an attack at the fast right after the chicane. Probably Tim was in a too defensive line, but I didn't expect he'd slow that much and I banged his rear in a proper Nici Larini Avus style (I saw by YT video he retired in that race  ;D). I guess that Tim's butt still hurts ;D ;D
Even that wasn't enough to scratch the Olympic calm of Tim ::). I tried to follow him until the end, but I knew that unless a mistake by him my chances of an overtake were 0. That mistake never happened. You really deserved it mate. Well done :)

About race 2 I can say that my biceps and quadriceps still hurts! I had 12 painful laps with Tim and a long snake of car behind. That was simply awsome. As I had to defend myself on the inside my pace was obviously a bit compromised by my brutal brakings and defensive lines. Every lap I had no chance to miss a braking point, and I can say that I nailed 12 brakings in row turning super tightly at the bend and exploiting the superior traction of my 4WD at the exit. As I usually suffer a bit during the last laps I found a fantastic ally in Kai (thanks mate :D), that helped me to relax a bit after 12 laps of pure terror  ::)

That was surely the funniest race of my champ and it's always a pleasure to race "against" Tim.

Fabri don't worry... Nannini was like this, we loved him for that :) It was even better for you! His car in AVUS caught fire!

I'm a bit worried about Jos cause I didn't see any video yet... What I have to do? I say a little prayer for you?  ;D

https://youtu.be/kafVkPxjLYg (https://youtu.be/kafVkPxjLYg)


  


 

Thanks for the nice song and for bringing back the matured Matteo to the race yesterday. I enjoyed your fights with Tim onboard as my races were a total disaster. Punted in T1 by Jari (I think) I was on the back foot trying to catch up and made the mother of all mistakes in L3/T1. Trying to find an escape route, I couldn't avoid gavinhall and destroyed his race (feeling pretty shitty about that). Did a stop-and-go as a penalisation but, with this short track, I was already a lap down so I retired to avoid making another mess with a front-running car. Retired and hoped to do a massive comeback on R2...

R2 started promising. I was catching up well and from P15 at the start, I was closing with the middle pack when Mark J didn't see me at T1 and there I went spinning again... I ended up retiring after a series of events with Kimi and feeling totally burned out with the races. Not my day and nothing worth showing on a video I'm afraid...

Congrats to the podiums and looking forward to Brands Hatch...
  

Yes, we have been discussing this 'off air' as both felt aggrieved by the other at the time! But a gentlemanly chat and seeing it from each others perspectives helped massively.  :angel:  I apologised for my part, but it really was a set of unfortunate angles and being blind-sided by Jaris car that caused a coming together in that nasty corner.  :euro:

Onwards to my home track at Brands Hatch, i hope i can finally get a decent result in this series  :-\

I've added the 2 incidents from the 1st laps - the drivers involved should now have a PM informing them of the reports.
As none of the drivers are eligible for ballast I will give until Wednesday for any responses to be submitted or further incident reports to be made.

Moderation complete :)

I just wonder whats a point to wait if you punt off someone and drop back of field, just continue like nothing happend and get dropped one place (or two ) instead?

The points system is intended to encourage better standards of driving while still retaining and educating competitors.

You should bare in mind that because moderators can use their discretion - this will both ways. If a driver proves to be unsporting and does continually bump and run or drive in unsportsmanlike manners while ignoring penalties, then we can also increase penalties - upto and including race/series bans.

Additionally we have the endorsement system which is intended for the serious instances of drivers who don't learn from/care about their mistakes and keep having incidents. The points in this are automatically generated outside of the moderators control and work like driving licence points in the real world - clock up too many and you'll get a suspension/race ban/series ban depending on how many have been clocked up.

If I find the section in the rules explaining this I'll share it.

I'm familiar with rules, so you don't have to look it. I just wanted to say that penalties are not penalties if they don't really affect to points at all...