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Title: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on December 06, 2020, 06:46:35 PM +0000
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=1252)

(https://i.postimg.cc/prrL5w1m/Round-9.png)

Welcome to Round 9 of the DTM season. This will be held in the tight and twisty confines of the Norisring.
Ballast will be applied to the following drivers as follows:

+20Kgs = Manteos
+15Kgs = FMG
+10Kgs = Fabri
+ 5Kgs  = Maxime

This circuit is likely to favour anyone who can either brake well, or put their power down well - there is a single long straight but it has a very tight entry and exit, so pure top speed won't help too much!

When joining the server please ensure you select the correct car.


Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Practice: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30  (2x 25 lap races)


Cars allowed:
Alfa 155 (+11Kg ballast, 10% (-42Hp) restrictor)
BMW M3 DTM (no handicap)
Ford Sierra R500 V3.03 (+20Kg Ballast, 45% restrictor (turbos don't respond the same as N/A before you ask!)
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ford-sierra-cosworth-rs500-pack.24027/
Mercedes 190E DTM (+6Kg ballast, 1% (-6.3Hp) restrictor).


Track: Norrisring 2009
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/norisring-2009.27646/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/norisring-2009.27646/)

The first lap of each race will be moderated - any incidents that require moderation beyond that point will require a report to be raised in the normal fashion.

Live Timing: here (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat) (Only available in the week up to the race)

Time of Day Setting: 13:30
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Syd Drake on February 25, 2021, 09:04:27 PM +0000
Tim, can you set the server for Norisring?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 26, 2021, 07:25:14 AM +0000
Hi Syd - I've been stupidly busy at work so didn't get a chance.

The track has been updated though so I'll have to update that on the server - I'll do it after lunch (I finish work then) and fire up the server.

For everyone else...
THE SERVER WILL BE RUNNING THE LATEST V3.32 BUILD OF THE TRACK WHEN IT GOES UP!
PLEASE ENSURE YOU HAVE DOWNLOADED AND TESTED THIS PRIOR TO THE RACE!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Mark J on February 26, 2021, 09:14:00 AM +0000
Some historic footage to get you in the mood  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ogLNqJym7k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ogLNqJym7k) with onboards and track map

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLIT6ycVhM8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLIT6ycVhM8)  now you just need to get a mullet and grow a dodgy tache' and we are set  ;D cook up some Bratwurst nearby for that authentic trackside aroma sehr gut  :P

Looks like one of the corners has a 'wall of champions' too  :o


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on February 26, 2021, 09:47:12 AM +0000
I assume you mean version 3.23 Tim?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 26, 2021, 12:02:23 PM +0000
Apparently my fingers have got fat from all the German sausages I've been eating through this series ::)
Yup, you're right Stefan :-[


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 26, 2021, 01:22:46 PM +0000
After a fight with servermanager (something had corrupted) I've updated the server and it should now be running with the correct ballasts and track version.
I've not been able to test it yet as my pedals have turned up so the rig is in pieces - I'll hop on later this afternoon if no-one has checked it in the mean time :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Syd Drake on February 26, 2021, 05:54:14 PM +0000
I can't join the server as it is asking for a password I don't have.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Syd Drake on February 26, 2021, 05:59:04 PM +0000
Actually, can't get to the track even offline. Content manager just tries to load the track and then goes back to desktop with race cancelled. No error. From regular AC menu, it starts to load and then goes back to starting AC screen. Anyone else having problems?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Syd Drake on February 26, 2021, 06:35:58 PM +0000
And a third update :)
I turned custom shaders patch on in CM and then the track was able to load offline.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Fabri Fibra on February 28, 2021, 04:51:57 PM +0000
Actually, can't get to the track even offline. Content manager just tries to load the track and then goes back to desktop with race cancelled. No error. From regular AC menu, it starts to load and then goes back to starting AC screen. Anyone else having problems?

I have this problem too....


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: spanner on February 28, 2021, 05:02:42 PM +0000
Sounds like you guys are always having issues with Content Manager!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Syd Drake on February 28, 2021, 05:52:16 PM +0000
Sounds like you guys are always having issues with Content Manager!

Actually it's only working with CM and CSP enabled :) , regular AC doesn't work for me at all with this track.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 28, 2021, 06:16:59 PM +0000
Password should now be fixed - It seems that the file didn't save when I edited the race.CFG

I'm about to go see if the track loads for me - I don't remember the download page saying you need CSP to run it so I'm annoyed if that's the case as I try to avoid tracks like that due to people inexplicably not using either program.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 28, 2021, 06:26:52 PM +0000
Running fine with no password now.
Try it without CM/CSP if you don't have them and see what happens - But I'd recommend getting CM anyway, it has a load of options that actually improve frame rate when you play with them.
CSP, if it turns out to be a requirement can always be turned back off or run with pretty much everything disabled.
It's that or we're forced to skip this week and I leave a grumpy review on the track over at RD :laugh:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Syd Drake on February 28, 2021, 06:39:19 PM +0000
Tried it. I can connect to the server, but the track loads only with csp enabled.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Fabri Fibra on February 28, 2021, 10:43:37 PM +0000
I installed CM and CSP. There are a lots of options and settings, but I have no idea how set them.
In any case, I was able to join the server. I was not yet able to exit  :angel: ;D I forced the closure of AC with the brute way.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Bob on March 01, 2021, 11:54:51 AM +0000
Will not load in game even offline, have none of those CM/CSP things installed, presume its a bad download, will get it again and retry. Update: does not work for me, wont load in game.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 01, 2021, 12:12:47 PM +0000
Bob, you'll need to install content manager and then the csp patch it seems.
If you have the power to run in VR then you shouldn't even notice them in the background


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Bob on March 01, 2021, 12:33:54 PM +0000
Tried that content manager before still have it somewhere will give it another try although last time I used it it caused all sorts of issues.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: KDiesel on March 01, 2021, 12:50:53 PM +0000
Works perfectly here without any CM/whatever managers...


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 01, 2021, 06:01:27 PM +0000
I seem to remember the early versions of the Russell Alexis (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/formula-ford-russell-alexis-mk-14.24419/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/formula-ford-russell-alexis-mk-14.24419/)) Needed you to manually add an extra file for the standard shaders. I did this at the time as I didn't have CM and it made nearly everything work in stock AC.

It's possible that Kimi has that file installed (Or just the remains of a CM install, It's a bugger to fully remove as it hides itself everywhere!

I've tracked the file in question down here: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/perpixelmultimap-with-emissive-map.22791/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/perpixelmultimap-with-emissive-map.22791/)

It won't brake anything, so if you want to try that before going the whole hog and installing CM/CSP it could be worth the effort :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: KDiesel on March 01, 2021, 06:52:57 PM +0000
I seem to remember the early versions of the Russell Alexis (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/formula-ford-russell-alexis-mk-14.24419/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/formula-ford-russell-alexis-mk-14.24419/)) Needed you to manually add an extra file for the standard shaders. I did this at the time as I didn't have CM and it made nearly everything work in stock AC.

It's possible that Kimi has that file installed (Or just the remains of a CM install, It's a bugger to fully remove as it hides itself everywhere!



I actually have some files installed, can't remember what tho, it was many years ago....


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: IbnSolmyr on March 02, 2021, 12:31:21 PM +0000
Works fine for me too, and still without any CM/CSP here.

Edit : I don't have CSP, but I have CM. It's just that I don't use it.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Fabri Fibra on March 02, 2021, 04:17:40 PM +0000
CM took over my AC, like a demon. How can I open AC without that hell thing? I try from the normal AC icon, but it always starts with CM.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 02, 2021, 05:12:40 PM +0000
I just start through Steam and don't touch CM. It never fires up unless I tell it to so I really don't know why it is for you Fabri?
I've even just taken a look through the files and can't see a setting to take over from the AC launcher.

Maybe try to remove it and see if AC then works and has the right 'stuff' left to run the track! :D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Manteos on March 02, 2021, 05:23:08 PM +0000
I just start through Steam and don't touch CM. It never fires up unless I tell it to so I really don't know why it is for you Fabri?

Same here. I simply start the game through Steam


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Jos Ogos on March 03, 2021, 03:16:18 PM +0000
Some historic footage to get you in the mood  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ogLNqJym7k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ogLNqJym7k) with onboards and track map

Thanks for this, Mark.
I see the 'Sierra boys' doing well (at least in qualy) in the real race... Let's see what happens later.
Jos


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Bob on March 03, 2021, 04:56:50 PM +0000
Finally got this thing working, but not impressed with it.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: SRW on March 03, 2021, 06:32:26 PM +0000
is everyone downloading content manager from a russian site?

if so which option
direct, github or google drive?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 03, 2021, 06:33:11 PM +0000
Yes, it's developed by russians :)

Also, just to throw a spanner in the works there is a small update for AC on Steam.
No idea what it's for ???

Hopefully that won't mess things up further for tonight


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: MaxVeloce on March 03, 2021, 07:32:27 PM +0000
Also, just to throw a spanner in the works there is a small update for AC on Steam.
No idea what it's for ???

Steam often throws tiny updates at random games you have installed when its updating some part of itself, and nothing on the game changes...  its a bit weird but has always been a thing.


On a further note, havn't even installed the track yet, but I will shortly and then gonna try to join tonight  :)



Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Bob on March 03, 2021, 09:35:37 PM +0000
 :) No replays saved with this CM thingy, it's not the best, prefer the normal AC.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 03, 2021, 09:43:23 PM +0000
Not even in the autosave folder Bob? I can upload mine tomorrow evening if Matteo doesn't beat me too it :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Bob on March 03, 2021, 09:48:23 PM +0000
Will watch out tomorrow, enjoyed the races tonight.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Bob on March 03, 2021, 09:54:54 PM +0000
 ;D Found them.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Syd Drake on March 03, 2021, 10:08:28 PM +0000
This was a good track for me, or perhaps for the Alfas.
I qualified 6th, and was up to 4th after the start. After that I had a quiet race, slowly falling behind top three and pulling away from Jos. I think my lead over Jos was around 3 seconds toward the end when I came up to lap Kimi. We had a contact, and I lost most of my advantage over Jos and had to sweat out the last few laps.
Second race was lining up to be a 1-2-3 by T1  ;D and it was, until Mateo and Fabri had a contact. I had to go around on the outside, Tim went through the inside and he got the lead. I had Kai and Jos on my tail, and I just got too excited. Kept downshifting too fast, out braking myself, generally driving much slower than in the first race. Eventually Kai and Jos got passed me, and then I spun accelerating out of T1, where I've never spun before. Then to make matters worse, I hit some obstacle on the inside of T1 I never even new existed there, and had to reverse out of it to get going. Lost about 11 seconds and went from 4th to 7th. From there I calmed down, started to hit my marks, and actually gained on Maxime towards the end, even though I was on meds, and he was on hard tires.
I think meds were actually better, as I didn't get them into red, and Tim even managed to get through the race on softs in the second race.
Congrats to Mateo and Tim on the wins.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Syd Drake on March 03, 2021, 11:23:21 PM +0000
And here some highlights from the second race, first from my perspective, and then some epic fighting for third by Mateo, Jos and Fabri.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DW_9QkC1WM


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Jos Ogos on March 04, 2021, 06:38:56 AM +0000
Also, just to throw a spanner in the works there is a small update for AC on Steam.
No idea what it's for ???

This might provide some insights, Tim:

GTPlanet: Assetto Corsa Update Adds Mysterious BMW M2 CS Folder, Ferrari 488 Esports Liveries.
https://www.gtplanet.net/assetto-corsa-update-adds-bmwm2-20200303/ (https://www.gtplanet.net/assetto-corsa-update-adds-bmwm2-20200303/)

A surprise update to the PC version of Assetto Corsa has landed today, and left something of a mystery in its wake.

Players logging into the game will find a small, 46MB update waiting for them. As you’d expect from an update that size, there’s not a lot of changes, but what has changed is on the interesting side.

First of all, the update brings along a variety of skins for the Ferrari 488 Challenge car. A closer look at the skins reveals “Ferrari Esports Series” branding on them, but they’re not from the 2020 Ferrari Hublot Esports Series last year. Instead they actually come from an event staged earlier today: the Ferrari Esports All Stars Racing Night.

This invitation-only celebrity esports event put together a pretty star-studded driver line-up which includes Valentino Rossi (hence the VR46 car) and Ferrari F1 Esports team drivers David Tonizza and Brendon Leigh. Oddly, Charles Leclerc was also on hand for the event, but up in the commentary booth rather than on the race track. You can catch up with the event, if you missed it, below:


Argruably more interesting is the second bit of the update, which has added a completely empty folder. While that might not sound like some particularly engaging, but it looks like it’s in preparation for a pretty exciting track machine. The folder is called “ks_bmw_m2cs_racing” and seem a clear indication that the BMW M2 CS Racing will be coming to the game soon.

In case you’re not familiar with it, the BMW M2 CS Racing is a $100,000, track-only version of the BMW M2 CS. It uses the same three-liter, twin-turbo, straight-six which can match the road car’s 444hp, but for racing purposes the owner can set the power to between 276hp and 360hp according to BOP. The car has its own class in the VLN Endurance Championship Nurburgring and Nurburgring 24 Hours.

Essentially the same car as the M2 CS, it boasts upgraded motorsports variants of the seven-speed DCT gearbox, dampers, exhaust and limited slip differential. There’s FIA homologated seats from Sabelt and six-point racing harnesses, an air-jack system and even the driver aids are tweaked for motorsport purposes.

For now, the relevant folder in the game is empty, but it strongly suggests there’ll be something to fill it coming along soon.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Jos Ogos on March 04, 2021, 08:38:28 AM +0000
And here some highlights from the second race, first from my perspective, and then some epic fighting for third by Mateo, Jos and Fabri.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DW_9QkC1WM

Great compilation, Syd. I'm processing the video from my angle and will publish it later. What an epic battle with the mafiosi... I should have played it harder on the final turn to avoid Matteo's overtake on the left but it was getting difficult holding both of them... Great fun nevertheless.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Mark J on March 04, 2021, 01:03:54 PM +0000
a totally rubbish night for me with a series of hardware problems and then car handling / driver inability issues  ::)

Had done no practise at all but thought i'd join early enough to get half hour practise in before qually, but no, AC's usual array of hardware recognition thought otherwise, bundled in with Rifts usual 'gifts' meant i spent the whole of practise restarting my pc and jumping in and out of the server  :taz: So qually became my practise  :'(  Good job there are only 4 corners to learn  :P  Despite that my car felt awful with poor balance and useless brakes for race 1. I still 'enjoyed' some fights for 8th - 10th for most of it but two oversteer spins on exits followed by yet another steering wheel failure put me out of race 1. (For some reason as soon as my car went to full lock the steering wheel borked out - i think it was pulling on the usb cable)

Race 2 i got the car feeling much better than race 1 but could still only fight for scraps down in 10th place. The beemers seemed to be having more of a mare here than the other cars with several spinners or problems on brakes. I enjoyed this car last time we ran it but i seem to be getting worse with it as the season goes on and now i dislike driving it  ???  :-[


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Manteos on March 04, 2021, 01:48:32 PM +0000
A nice couple of races yesterday :)

Race 1

After a good start I lost the position by Tim, so I had to fight to take it back. For the second time in this champ the track was really cool for some battle against the Merc, as I was advantaged by my traction, but Tim got a better max speed. After some laps I had the better of him, building a bit of gap of approx 2 seconds with my rivals. Unfortunately some earlier mishift during our battle destroyed almost completely my gearbox, and I had no other chance than pull off the throttle and let Tim and Fabri go to save at least the 3rd place. I had to downshift worse than a first day driving licence holder, with some weird downshit from 5th to 1st gear at the first bend, and from 4th to 1st at the last one. When I crossed the line I had no more downshifting mistakes available, but at least I used my head once, avoiding to give the chance to reopen the champ to Tim with an almost sure retire.

Race 2

Race 2 started with another mistake, this time on the innocent Fabri. At T1 I had the feeling I braked too early, so I released a bit the pressure on the pedal and that was fatal for Fabri, as I adopeted the NOT so "brilliant disguise" of Roland Asch. Despite my stupid mistake, gladly the pack managed to avoid the "Alfa barricade" without many issues, but my race and that of Fabri were already compromised.

I had to try a comeback however, and it was great fun along the race to have some duels with the rest of the field! When I finally reached Jos I had some laps of proper DTM race with him, with some honest paint scraps and light door to door banging. It was difficult to avoid you in a couple of laps cause you were weaving at the exit of the chicane of the "wall of champion", but this time I was more cautious than usual, cause I wanted to avoid another incident as we had enough of it in the last period ;)
All in all a great race stained by that stupid 1st lap mistake ::)

Thanks for the fun chaps, see you for the last ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Jos Ogos on March 04, 2021, 03:10:16 PM +0000
Challenging and intense couple of races at Norisring for me and the Sierra with some proper DTM racing as Matteo's points out.
I had already a fantastic battle with Kai in qualy. We were improving our times and separated by 1/100th of a second for most of the time. Running sometimes 2 tens faster for most of the track, all to lose the advantage and position in the last turn! How frustrating. The key in our battle was primarily about gaining a few meters that would prove critical to avoid Syd overtaking at the start of the race with his fast starts in the AWD almighty Alfa. Norisring was Alfa turf yesterday (with Tim's Merc permission of course).

Race 1 https://youtu.be/Casn5p50Vxg (https://youtu.be/Casn5p50Vxg) started as expected, gained a bit on Tim but he closed the door quickly and the battle with Kai was unleashed. T1 was surpringsingly clean but we touched at the end of the S-Kurve and were overtaken by Maxime that was quick to read what was developing. That was followed by a couple of very intense laps of DTM fighting with Kai. The beemer 4th gear is prodigious and I could see how it took off when engaging it... Kai made a mistake, I managed to catch up on Maxime and we, of course, both behaved in a team like fashion and off I went for Syd... But he wasn't giving up. His final scrumble with Kimi was a close call for me on P4 but I would have needed a couple of more laps (optimistically).

Race 2 https://youtu.be/VMszshprYs0 (https://youtu.be/VMszshprYs0) was conditioned by the Alfas' misunderstanding in T1 which delivered two fantastic 3-way battles on my race. First with Kai and Syd. We both eventually overtook Syd after a lot of hard work and as I was planning my subsequent battle with Kai, he had enough and just flew off in persecution of Tim. Syd's defense delayed me enought to make any attempt on Kai out of date. I couldn't relax though as I was aware of the increasingly red tinted mirror and I shifted quickly to embrace the fantastic battle with the two Alfas, lead by Matteo and his padawan Fabri. So much fun! Loved the couple or three times I managed to regain the position in pure DTM moves and the respectful touching and battling for position. Regret the lack of agressivity in that final left turn when Matteo overtook for good and the battle with Fabri unleashed, but that would have brutally forced Matteo to maintain his old age and not allow his younger self to prevail with the potential crashing which would have given Fabri the free way. It was  a terrific battle although I'd say the AWDs had the advantage on this track and Matteo very skillfully made the most of it. I was hoping he would have gear issues as in the first race but none surfaced in time. Fabri's final attempts were also quite bold and it was good the race was coming to an end. His desperate final attempt didin't prevent us from keeping positions and the race ended well.  Plenty of fun.

Congrats to all podiums, very well deserved and see you at Nurburing in a couple of weeks.

Tim, btw, I've heard there are some problems on the GP track at Nurburgring (something related with the tarmac I believe). The track administrator has offered us the Nordchleife circuit instead. I think it is worth giving it a thought. I just leave it there...  :1eye:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 04, 2021, 03:48:24 PM +0000
AC's usual array of hardware recognition thought otherwise

AC recognises hardware according to it's ID on the USB bus - this is a live list that is basically dependant on the order you plug your peripherals in - even plugging something unrelated like your rift or a phone that is extra can bork things for you.

Thanks to that and the crap drivers for my rift I have a very specific order and timing for plugging Rift, wheel, pedals and button box in.
I have no doubt that when my SHH shifter turns up and I can finally unplug the G25 completely the entirety of my current profiles will go out the window ::)

As for BMW pace I think Kai can put a pretty good argument together that the Bimmer was just fine ;D Speaking as the guy who was trying to hold him off in race 2 I can assure you it has no speed deficit here!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Mark J on March 04, 2021, 05:12:27 PM +0000
yeah i had no doubts there is nowt wrong with the Beemer, its more my own setup in using it i think as i dont remember disliking it before. Maybe i've gone down the wrong path setup wise or hardware wise through the season. I also had my ffb far too strong for it last night (problem of switching constantly between different sims!) so dragging it around the hairpins became hard work but a good workout  :sweatdrop:


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 04, 2021, 05:42:36 PM +0000
As you may have guessed the results import is going to be a while - I think SRW had some sort of (game) crash and was given a different car when he re-joined.
I've got to go figure out which of the 2 SRW's is the real one  :laugh:


(Can the real SRW please stand up?)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Fabri Fibra on March 04, 2021, 06:06:12 PM +0000
Races full of action and entertainment.
I got the pole with a certain amount of luck, but in every way my race pace was good.

Race 1: after a couple of laps I was passed by Matteo and Tim who was perfectly positioned behind him. I continued to follow him very closely, but I was never able to bring about an attack. I finished second because Matteo had gearbox problems.
Tim's car under braking looked like a motorcycle with its ass wagging its tail. ;D

Race 2: I started very well and I was about to do the first corner when I heard a touch and I was in spin. Unfortunately my teammate did a small mistake in braking. These are things that happen, race accident.
We both had to comeback. I had a couple of dueling laps with Maxime and then a tough fight with Jos. At the last corner I tried a desperate pirate boarding, but we touched. I preferred to give back the position and finish rightly behind Jos.
Great battle!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 04, 2021, 06:10:00 PM +0000
I think I've edited that correctly - Can you let me know if it seems right to you SRW?
Same to everyone else really too.
I'll get to work on the server for the final round shortly.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 04, 2021, 08:47:00 PM +0000
Well, my races were born from pure opportunism ;D
Due to work, equiping the GF's new van, the new pedals, and the GF's birthday all going off together over the last week or so I went into this with zero practice :o
And as such I was purely in damage limitation mode as these races are so competitive I had no reason to expect to be a front runner without setup time in advance...

I spent most of practice playing with a Medium tire setup until it could keep pace with Jos - who had joined before me and was putting in some sterling times also on mediums.
As first Kai, and then Matteo and Fabri got involved I found myself pretty much there for race pace.
With 5 to go I switched to Softs and made 1 or 2 minor changes to make the setup more aggressive, I didn't put a lap together in practice but could see in my split times I was in the right ball park.

In qually I did well but never managed to hit my predicted lap, which was basically the same as the one's put in by Fabri and Matteo.
At the end of qualifying I was lucky enough to spot an unexpected piece of information from pro-tires; Apparently it had decided that my softs would last until lap 22 before going into the red zone - only 2 laps less than the mediums were showing.

In the end I mentally tossed a coin and decided on s*** or bust.
I loaded Softs and determined I'd do my best not to excite them too much in the race, while also harrassing the hell out of the Alfas in the early stage while I had the advantage.

In race 1 this went fantastically, I even managed a clean pass on Matteo - but then messed up slightly and cooked my tires catching the big slide I had to perform in order to avoid crashing.
This both put me into Fabri's reach and also knocked my right rear into yellow status.
Oddly the Softs are very strange because the car handled terribly from that point until the other rear tire went yellow and I lost loads of time (This happened in race 2 also).
Once all 4 tires were yellow I had almost the same pace as when green ??? and could maintain and slightly pull away from Fabri, once Matteo backed out of it to secure a finish my run to the flag was fairly stress free (Aside from having no idea how long my tires would keep on working).

For race 2 I decided to run the softs again and lucked out massively when Matteo and Fabri got 'a bit close'.
Once Syd was a few seconds back I calmed down a bit to ensure the tires weren't over-abused, but then Kai appeared behind and seemed to have fitted warp engines!
Luckily his advance started just as I was getting out of the weird green/yellow handling phase and was rapidly able to start increasing my lap speeds to hold him off at between 2 and 3 seconds for most of the remaining laps.

I'm going to try my new pedals with the hard springs over the weekend if I have time, but with a proper calibration in place I have to say I'm getting the hang of them at medium strength. A slightly stiffer spring should stop the momentary lockups during heal and toeing that Fabri mentioned in his post, or at least I hope so!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on March 06, 2021, 09:29:03 AM +0000
Verry nice video Syd. And real touringcar action.

Race one was forgettable for me, as I span exiting T1.. Then had a Rift update mid race.
Race two was nice, but had to start from last place. To make things difficult, my gaspedal was sticking. I had changed the travel for easier heel and toe,  but it wasn't getting back propperly. So it was pushing in all the corners. Still had a blast fighting with Bob and Max.
Looking forward to the finals.

And could someone please upload the relpay files please? Tnx


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 DTM Rnd 9 - Norisring - Mar 3
Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 06, 2021, 07:04:50 PM +0000
I've just added the family feud incident from race 2.
Does anyone have anything to add or should I mod it later tomorrow?