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Title: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on December 21, 2020, 03:20:37 PM +0000
Season 38 – 1955 Grand Prix

Please check the Season 38 details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1262&theme=6) regarding rules and the 1955 Grand Prix pages (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1272&theme=6) in particular.

Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.

The races will be run as follows:

Car set: 1955 F1 only
Date: Every second Sunday from 17th January 2021
Time: No later then 9:00pm UK Time (30-60 mins practice, race starts at 9:30pm)
Race Length: 50 minutes
Damage Model:  Pro
Server: UKGPL04_60fps
Race List: IGOR
Divisional Moderator: Phil Thornton

Calendar:
Date    
 Day        
   Time        
Mod    
   Track        
     Folder      
  Laps  
     Download      
17/01/2021    Sunday 21:00 GMT 55GP
Nassau 1966
nassau
16
Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=11166)
31/01/2021    Sunday 21:00 GMT 55GP
Spa 67
spa67
11
Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?s=448c71de31d5af327ee46f7dfc1fde15&showtopic=10443)
14/02/2021    Sunday 21:00 GMT 55GP
Parco del Valentino Torino v3  1955
torino
26
Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=13022)
28/02/2021    Sunday 21:00 GMT 55GP
Monsanto Park 1959
monsanto
21
Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=2717)
14/03/2021    Sunday 21:00 GMT 55GP
Tripoli 1937
tripoli
13
Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=616)
28/03/2021    Sunday 21:00 BST 55GP
Bremgarten 1954
bremgart
18
Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=5964)
25/04/2021    Sunday 21:00 BST 55GP
Watkins Glen
watglen
35
Papyrus Original
09/05/2021    Sunday 21:00 BST 55GP
Hockenheim
hockenhm
20
Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=9311%20%20http://dixierunners.speedgeezers.net/Hockenheim/)
23/05/2021    Sunday 21:00 BST 55GP
Dundrod 1950
Dund1950
11
Link (http://jrpearson.homestead.com/Dundrod1950Downloads.html)
06/06/2021    Sunday 21:00 BST 55GP
Buenos Aires 1955
ba55n2
27
Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=11589)

Handicapping
We will use the tokens system again this season. The tokens system is actually a chassis levelling system, not a form of handicapping. So to introduce a form of handicapping into the 1955 Grand Prix series, drivers who are classed as "Privateers" will be given additional tokens.  This will take the form of 10 additional tokens at the start of the season.  However a "Privateer" driver who fails to start any of the first 5 races will only be eligible for an additional allocation of 5 tokens (rather than 10).  "Privateer" status will be declared by the divisional moderator at the start of the season.

Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 incidents do carry an extra 1 place penalty.

The races will be run under Pro rules so no shift-Rs are allowed.

Only reported incidents will be moderated.

If you would like to enter this series please submit an entry in the poll.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on December 21, 2020, 07:39:02 PM +0000
I think that Phil is trying to defeat me with the track list.   ::)


I'm assuming that, when there are so many good tracks available, Phil has a good reason for lumbering us with Watkins Glen 1948?


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on December 21, 2020, 08:17:52 PM +0000
I think that Phil is trying to defeat me with the track list.   ::)


I'm assuming that, when there are so many good tracks available, Phil has a good reason for lumbering us with Watkins Glen 1948?
I can't make it too easy for you Clive, anyway I'm only trying to take into account suggestions made at the end of season review. There isn't any point asking for feedback if we don't listen to it.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: EvilClive on December 21, 2020, 08:50:59 PM +0000
I think that Phil is trying to defeat me with the track list.   ::)


I'm assuming that, when there are so many good tracks available, Phil has a good reason for lumbering us with Watkins Glen 1948?
I can't make it too easy for you Clive, anyway I'm only trying to take into account suggestions made at the end of season review. There isn't any point asking for feedback if we don't listen to it.

From my point of view putting some cash in the suggestions box was £10 quid well spent   ::)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on December 21, 2020, 09:17:26 PM +0000
LOL

I must take a look at the feedback to see who suggested using joke tracks!


EDIT:  Ah, I see.  It came from maddog, who also admits that he will only do three rounds so that he doesn't run out of tokens.




Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Dulima on December 22, 2020, 09:49:02 AM +0000
I'm in, for sure!


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: JonnyO on December 23, 2020, 02:17:05 PM +0000
  Aller!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: bernie on December 25, 2020, 10:39:54 AM +0000
I know 3 of the tracks , should be a piece of cake  ::)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Alain Maurice on December 27, 2020, 02:35:45 PM +0000
 :)

Hi all ok for me thanks  :P


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Enrique Farina on December 27, 2020, 06:33:40 PM +0000
hello guys, and merry cristhmas and happy new year, i'm in ..thanks


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on December 30, 2020, 10:27:22 PM +0000
I think that Phil is trying to defeat me with the track list.   ::)


I'm assuming that, when there are so many good tracks available, Phil has a good reason for lumbering us with Watkins Glen 1948?
I can't make it too easy for you Clive, anyway I'm only trying to take into account suggestions made at the end of season review. There isn't any point asking for feedback if we don't listen to it.

Hi Phil, there appears to be a little confusion regarding the track files for WG48.
I assume it's v2 that we need.  Is there any chance of your running the server with this nightmare on it so that I can check that I have the correct version.
And is there anything to stop the trees looking so horrible in close up?  I don't mean when I have hit them, just when driving beneath them the leaves seem to have a halo on them.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on December 30, 2020, 11:03:08 PM +0000
OK, I'll sort that out tomorrow.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on December 30, 2020, 11:15:58 PM +0000
Thank you.   :thumbup1:


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: maddog on December 31, 2020, 12:12:55 PM +0000
Don't worry Clive, it wasn't until the 2nd or 3rd year they closed this street version of The Glen, due to fatalities. :angel:  There are several addons available.  I have Glendirt, Glen Summer, and a special 16bit Hirez trees version made for worried drivers to climb into. :o I may have grabbed these at SRMZ, dated 2005.  If NLA, I could post what's required to a Moderator.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on December 31, 2020, 01:21:25 PM +0000
Watkins 1948 directory and link corrected. These should be the same ones Martin has. We are not using the dirt track version, we are using the the standard layout we used a few seasons ago. See here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9033#event2355).

I don't think it matters which zip file you extract (i.e. the watkin48.zip or glen1948_16bit_hires.zip), they are just hi-res and low-res versions of the same track.

The railway crossing will be tricky in the 55s  :eek:


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on December 31, 2020, 01:32:12 PM +0000


The railway crossing will be tricky in the 55s  :eek:

Correct. All my setups fly like a fridge and land like a piano!


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on December 31, 2020, 01:38:44 PM +0000
Can we please still do a test so that I know that I have the correct version?

It's bad enough having to race on it.  To spend weeks practicing the wrong track would be the more than human flesh could endure!


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on December 31, 2020, 01:57:08 PM +0000
Can we please still do a test so that I know that I have the correct version?
Yes happy to do that. I'm in the process of setting up my server with the Season 38 tracks and loose grids. I hope to have it sorted by the weekend so I can put the whole season on a loop.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 01, 2021, 09:53:32 AM +0000
Thanks Phil.

I'm just about certain that I have the old version and I'm not too clear what to download.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 01, 2021, 10:35:41 AM +0000
Thanks Phil.

I'm just about certain that I have the old version and I'm not too clear what to download.
Hang fire Clive, I've done a bit more testing and I've come to the conclusion I'm just going to create a moderating nightmare for myself with this track. It is fun to drive but the steep drop off into the woods (near the "25mph sign") is just going to be too hard to negotiate without the risk of a major pile-up. The hedgerows are quite sticky so there shouldn't be a "Grenzlandring" effect with cars bouncing all over the place, nevertheless in a PRO race there are no second chances.

So I'm going to swap it out and replace it with the papyrus version of Watkins Glen. All drivers should be familiar with the original papyrus track so it will just be a matter of learning to get the best out of the 55s around there.

We can do a fun race at Watkins 48 in the off-season when we can allow shift-Rs in case they are needed.  I think Watkins 48 is one of the few tracks where "overtaking" could literally mean flying over the top of somebody!


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 01, 2021, 11:21:29 AM +0000
Good news Phil but bang goes my car list already!   ;D


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: EvilClive on January 01, 2021, 11:32:18 AM +0000
Good work Phil. Plain brown envelope in the post.  :shifty:


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: maddog on January 01, 2021, 11:49:23 AM +0000
Fair enough.  We've raced with faster cars on this track in the past.  It has superb scenery - good enough that a number of us were taken by it.  :)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 01, 2021, 04:39:01 PM +0000
Can we please still do a test so that I know that I have the correct version?
Yes happy to do that. I'm in the process of setting up my server with the Season 38 tracks and loose grids. I hope to have it sorted by the weekend so I can put the whole season on a loop.
UKGPL4 is up on iGOR looping through all the tracks in the 55GP Season 38 track list. So if you want to confirm you have the correct tracks please try to connect (it may take you a while).


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 01, 2021, 05:07:12 PM +0000
Thanks Phil.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: romanov on January 14, 2021, 07:26:36 PM +0000
Hi all, i'am ready for champ on 55.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 14, 2021, 08:13:01 PM +0000
Hi all, i'am ready for champ on 55.


Welcome Petr.

This season is going to be a humdinger!!   ;D


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 14, 2021, 08:22:48 PM +0000
Hi all, i'am ready for champ on 55.

Hi Romanov

Welcome to UKGPL, I've processed your registration but I need to know a bit about you so that I can assign you to the correct group for your ability. The fast drivers are in the "Works" and the rest are in the "Privateers". Do you have a GPL Rank (https://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/php-pub/gplrank.php)? That will help me decide which group would suite you best.

Regards

Phil


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: tagomago on January 15, 2021, 06:16:49 AM +0000
Forgive me for being blunt but I thought there would be some system to opt for a server with 19 drivers

If the league is divided into good drivers and bad drivers I don't want to be the good of the bad or the bad of the good

In PDLR, a league of which I am a member, we had almost 40 drivers 10 years ago

Each race became an event with pre-race B and race A

Basically
 -The first 13 of the last race (from the previous championship for the first one) go to race A
 - A pre-race is run (B) from which the first 6 will go to the race (A)
 - Anyone who does not run should run the next B
 - The penalty for causing incidents is to run the next B

Advantages
 - Everyone runs
 - Everyone has the option to be on track with the rapids
 - New enjoyment objectives appear ... finishing in the top 13 keeps you in the gap

Sorry for barging in like an elephant in a garage but the splitting of 2 servers has been done just 3 days before the official race





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Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 15, 2021, 03:47:43 PM +0000
Hi Tagomago

Thank you for taking the time to explain the issues. We want to ensure all drivers are happy so your comments are welcome. I'll try to address your concerns.

Forgive me for being blunt but I thought there would be some system to opt for a server with 19 drivers

If the league is divided into good drivers and bad drivers I don't want to be the good of the bad or the bad of the good
This is always the problem for the middle ranked drivers of which I am one. I'm not good enough to challenge for a podium in the "Works" (or "Professionals") category. But I am usually competitive in the "Privateers" or "Amateurs" category. The 65F1 race at Oulton Park (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=23631#event13002) was a perfect example. The last finisher in the "Professionals" race was Fulvio in a time of 48m51s, I was the winner of the "Amateurs" in a time of 48m59s. So the split in the 2 servers was well judged (which implies the "Works" and "Privateers" split in the 67F1 is about right too). I would like to be able to race against Fulvio, Bagrupp and Doni in every race because they are just that little bit better than me and I enjoy the challenge of trying to beat them. But at Oulton Park they were in the Works and I was in the Privateers so I had a different challenge; I had to compete with Eric, Pete, David and Francesco. In the end I came out on top but it wasn't easy. However it was fun which is the most important thing.

With more than 19 drivers, there has to be a split somewhere. But provided I have someone to race with, I am happy.

Quote
In PDLR, a league of which I am a member, we had almost 40 drivers 10 years ago

Each race became an event with pre-race B and race A

Basically
 -The first 13 of the last race (from the previous championship for the first one) go to race A
 - A pre-race is run (B) from which the first 6 will go to the race (A)
 - Anyone who does not run should run the next B
 - The penalty for causing incidents is to run the next B

Advantages
 - Everyone runs
 - Everyone has the option to be on track with the rapids
 - New enjoyment objectives appear ... finishing in the top 13 keeps you in the gap
At interesting format, in effect there was an extra "Qualifying" race, so whilst all drivers had a chance to race, some drivers (i.e. the 6 qualifiers) raced twice. We could try that format at some point. We have a very busy calendar so if we did adopt this approach I suggest both races would have to be on the same night. Perhaps a short (10mins qually + 20 mins race) qualifying event before the main event. But there are three issues I can foresee:
  • The race night would be extended for some drivers (10mins qually + 20 mins race + 30mins qually + 40 mins race) - maybe an issue for time zones other than GMT?
  • What happens if there is an incident in the qualifying race? No time to moderate.
  • The "non" qualifiers would only get a single 20 min race
We can look a little deeper into this but having qualifying races on different days would add to an already busy calendar.

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Sorry for barging in like an elephant in a garage.....
No problem at all, constructive advice and comments are always welcome.

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.....but the splitting of 2 servers has been done just 3 days before the official race
Yes sorry about that but we had to make a quick decision based on the number of late registrations. We had 2 more registrations yesterday which brought the number up to 24. So if everyone turned up, 5 drivers would not be able to race. So we had to make a quick decision and we preferred to split the drivers into 2 groups rather than disappoint 5 drivers. We also have spare capacity in case we get some very late entries. Perhaps there are a few more GPL Brazil drivers who will want to race but have not yet registered?

As a middle ranked driver, this time I am in the "Works" so I expect to be at the back, not the front. But provided I don't get left completely behind I should have an enjoyable race. Hopefully I'll be able to challenge Fulvio, Bagrupp and Doni this time :) .

If you would prefer to race on the Works, you can move up, just PM me or post something here.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: romanov on January 15, 2021, 05:23:28 PM +0000
Phil Thornton

Yes, i have gplrank https://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/php-pub/user.php?showDetail=30,1,28650


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 15, 2021, 05:32:14 PM +0000
Hi Petr

Thank you for your reply, we'd worked out who you are but thanks for confirming. I've put you in the Works group ;) . Good luck, enjoy the season!


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: tagomago on January 15, 2021, 10:29:47 PM +0000
Thank you very much for your explanations Phil ... and also thank you very much for offering me an option to accommodate

Unfortunately you can't maintain a policy of pleasing everyone ... it's usually impossible

I would have preferred that these issues could be discussed with enough time to accommodate a solution other than dividing the number of participants into two servers

If a driver comes running regularly in a league ... he can't be compared with a newcomer simply because of his rank since we are more than 19

A league must grow by assimilating the new ones, not displacing the current ones, and on the track it must not only count the rank 

I don't want in any case to damage the league, however in this context I have lost the motivation to participate

Cheers

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Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Carlos Cendejas on January 16, 2021, 10:43:37 AM +0000
Hola amigos!

I think i might join you with some weekend races by now. I will try to be at most of them,but not sure.

I just need to vote to be able to race right?
Do i have to do something else?
:)

Or maybe im not even allowed to race any more... Jejeje

Cheers everyone!



Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 16, 2021, 12:21:24 PM +0000
Hola amigos!

I think i might join you with some weekend races by now. I will try to be at most of them,but not sure.

I just need to vote to be able to race right?
Do i have to do something else?
:)

Or maybe im not even allowed to race any more... Jejeje

Cheers everyone!



Hi Carlos,
Welcome
I'm sure that Phil will sort you out as soon as he spots you.  ;-)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: maddog on January 16, 2021, 01:09:38 PM +0000
. . . . . I don't want in any case to damage the league, however in this context I have lost the motivation to participate

Sad to see a good racer stop.  The Moderators who make these races happen, have a limited time for this work.  If, because of this, the racing is less fun, race less.  If you stop, we all loose a little.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 16, 2021, 01:48:35 PM +0000
I think i might join you with some weekend races by now. I will try to be at most of them,but not sure.
Hi Carlos, As you've voted for less than 75% attendance, I've classified you as a First Reserve but that is a bit academic. With 2 servers there will be plenty of room so all reserves will get a drive. As a Mexico based driver you are in the same position as the Brazil based drivers; the difference in time zones means it is only viable to do weekend races.

Quote
I just need to vote to be able to race right?
Do i have to do something else?
:)
Nothing else, I've processed your registration. I've put you in the Privateers (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=23692#event12162) group, so please join the correct server. Have fun and good luck!


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 16, 2021, 01:56:25 PM +0000
I think that Carlos should be a Works driver.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 16, 2021, 02:58:30 PM +0000
I think that Carlos should be a Works driver.
We have 13 works drivers and 11 Privateer drivers. Looking at his racing history (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=7679;sa=racing_history) suggests Carlos is on the boundary between Works and Privateers. Allocating Carlos to the Privateers gives us a 13/12 split.

If Carlos would prefer to drive in the Works I'm happy to swap him over.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Gaizka López C. on January 16, 2021, 08:31:15 PM +0000
Hi everyone,

Sorry for not introducing myself before, but I had a bit of a hectic period since I registered for this season.

I had never tried 60fps, so it took me lots of fine-tuning work (until this Thursday!) to get my outdated WinXP system to be able to run 60fps smoothly enough to feel I could safely race online while being competitive enough.

Unfortunately then the split happen, and I got cold feet. Therefore I will not be joining you. Not this season at least.

I think the decision of splitting the league came too late, too close to the start of the championship. Personally, it changed the deal I had signed for and the experience I was hoping for. Hence my withdrawal. Good to know: I joined mostly to share a spot on the grid with my father (tagomago) and to race a full grid of 1955 F1 maniacs.

That said, my father and I have enjoyed a lot the last 2 weeks: Discussing our strategy of cars / tokens for the season, sharing tips to reach 60fps consistently, preparing tomorrow's GP... Indeed, I was thrilled at joining another international championship (last one was 12 years ago)!

Anyways, c'est la vie...


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 16, 2021, 09:21:43 PM +0000
Hi Gaizka

I'm sorry you have decided to withdraw, if the reason is that you wanted to race against Tagomago all you had to do was ask. I've already suggested he moves up to the Works. Anyway, no problem the door is always open for you and Tagomago to return whenever you like.

Regards

Phil


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Gaizka López C. on January 16, 2021, 10:13:58 PM +0000
Hi Phil,

I saw that. Thank you for offering the option, but it did not feel right.

It was the full 1955 F1 grid that made this championship a very attractive scenario (& opportunity) for me.

Best of luck tomorrow. I will keep an eye on Season 39.

Regards,
Gaizka


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Carlos Cendejas on January 17, 2021, 12:07:16 AM +0000
If Carlos would prefer to drive in the Works I'm happy to swap him over.
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Hola Phil. Yes I would like to be change to works if it’s posible please. :)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Carlos Cendejas on January 17, 2021, 12:11:39 AM +0000
Couldn’t write my “quote” out of the box. :(

Hola Phil. Yes I would like to be change to works if it’s posible please. :)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 17, 2021, 12:24:37 AM +0000
Couldn’t write my “quote” out of the box. :(

Hola Phil. Yes I would like to be change to works if it’s posible please. :)
Done!  Good luck and have a great race.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Rainier on January 17, 2021, 09:09:59 AM +0000
It was the full 1955 F1 grid that made this championship a very attractive scenario (& opportunity) for me.



At this moment, we are 26 registered drivers for mod 55.

Could you give us the link to a GPL patch allowing 26 drivers on the same grid ?

BTW, 14 or 15 drivers in work serie is not far from a full grid.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Dulima on January 17, 2021, 09:47:51 PM +0000
When everyone is on the grid, it’s impossible for me to drive, I didn’t manage to fix my problem, I am withdrawing from the mod 55 championship


An excellent championship, a mod that I love to run, but not




Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 17, 2021, 11:56:57 PM +0000
When everyone is on the grid, it’s impossible for me to drive, I didn’t manage to fix my problem, I am withdrawing from the mod 55 championship

An excellent championship, a mod that I love to run, but not
Before you do may I suggest you try to reduce the "Detail Bias" in GPL Graphics Options. I have a very good graphics card but I still have to reduce the detail bias to 50%.

If I try to race with more detail I get fps problems; especially at the start! With 50% the cars still look good.

I suggest you test your graphics settings against 19 AI drivers. The start will be a big test.

I can set the server up with a some AI drivers if you want to test on the server.
 
(https://i.ibb.co/HDVs5Qv/Detail-Bias.png) (https://ibb.co/8D0p1V3)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: MikeB on February 04, 2021, 04:06:21 PM +0000
You boys are going to have some fun at Torino !

Just to see what it was like I tried the Connaught at it and the brakes were gone in two laps, don't think the brakes were quite that bad back in the 50s   :)

Mind you I didn't know there was brake fade built into the 55 Mod so suddenly though my brake pedal pot had broken until I looked it up !!

Will look forward to seeing the race report ;D


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on February 04, 2021, 04:22:38 PM +0000
You boys are going to have some fun at Torino !

Just to see what it was like I tried the Connaught at it and the brakes were gone in two laps, don't think the brakes were quite that bad back in the 50s   :)

Mind you I didn't know there was brake fade built into the 55 Mod so suddenly though my brake pedal pot had broken until I looked it up !!

Will look forward to seeing the race report ;D

You are probably right Mike, brake fade wasn't that bad back then but we don't die when we hit a wall either and I appreciate that departure from reality.

I think that the 55mod is quite clever in that they have incorporated the brake fade at a level where they dictate that the cars must be driven in a certain way.  You cannot use the brakes as a steering aid as you do in the other mods or the original 67 cars.  If you do then you will not have any brakes for the second lap.

You may also be right that Phil may have given himself plenty of work in the race report.   ;D


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Dulima on February 07, 2021, 02:34:04 PM +0000
When everyone is on the grid, it’s impossible for me to drive, I didn’t manage to fix my problem, I am withdrawing from the mod 55 championship

An excellent championship, a mod that I love to run, but not
Before you do may I suggest you try to reduce the "Detail Bias" in GPL Graphics Options. I have a very good graphics card but I still have to reduce the detail bias to 50%.

If I try to race with more detail I get fps problems; especially at the start! With 50% the cars still look good.

I suggest you test your graphics settings against 19 AI drivers. The start will be a big test.

I can set the server up with a some AI drivers if you want to test on the server.
 
(https://i.ibb.co/HDVs5Qv/Detail-Bias.png) (https://ibb.co/8D0p1V3)

Thank you very much Phill

I've tried to narrow these options down and even then, there was no way

I'm sad, these cars, I love driving them

Patience, do what

Thanks again for your attention


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: maddog on February 08, 2021, 06:54:43 PM +0000
Sad news. :-[  When GPL was new, 800 x 600 was usual, with 36fps only possible on a quiet track.  Maximum I've ever used is 1600 x 1200.

A GP car has a high compression motor, and without fuel, it will slow an F1 faster than a normal passenger car.  We have raced these cars at Monaco, as they did in 1955. 


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Giovanni Centorame on February 23, 2021, 07:10:02 PM +0000
Hi all, i'm a newcomer of GPL after very long time ( since i was 10 on 1999  ;D) and i just discovered how far this sim has gone in 20 years with plenty of mods and tracks. I downloaded a bunch of mods  and tracks over the last few months , I would like to race with other people around and... i just discovered this league covering  one of my favourite F1 history era. Is it allowed to join the league even if the season has started yet?


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 23, 2021, 08:55:43 PM +0000
Hi all, i'm a newcomer of GPL after very long time ( since i was 10 on 1999  ;D) and i just discovered how far this sim has gone in 20 years with plenty of mods and tracks. I downloaded a bunch of mods  and tracks over the last few months , I would like to race with other people around and... i just discovered this league covering  one of my favourite F1 history era. Is it allowed to join the league even if the season has started yet?
Hi Giovanni

Yes you are very welcome to join us. Just vote using the buttons above and I will process your registration. Welcome to UKGPL!

Regards

Phil


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Giovanni Centorame on February 24, 2021, 10:27:53 AM +0000
Hi Phil, thank you! Just completed the poll.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 25, 2021, 08:51:04 PM +0000
Hi Phil, thank you! Just completed the poll.
Hi Giovanni
I've put you in the Privateers for the first race. Please have a look at the previous race replays for this season (there are links on the race announcements page) for both the Works and Privateers so you know what driving standards are expected. There are a couple of incident reports in the Works races that you should read and understand so you know what to be careful of. Go to the championship page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1272&theme=6), you can navigate to the races via the flags against each race in the Works and Privateers championship tables.

Don't forget to test your connection to the race server when it appears on iGOR (I'll set both the Works and Privateers going tomorrow night and leave them on until the race).


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Dulima on March 14, 2021, 07:11:09 PM +0000
I made some updates to the video card and I'm also going to disconnect Steam from my computer

I will do a test today to see how it is


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on March 14, 2021, 08:38:55 PM +0000
I made some updates to the video card and I'm also going to disconnect Steam from my computer

I will do a test today to see how it is
Yes please join qually Dulima. If you think the connection/FPS is good enough to race it would be great to see you on track.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 25, 2021, 11:34:44 AM +0100
Good morning all !
I am French and my English is almost only "Google"  :(
I would like to restart GPL ... I like the 55 mod and although the championship is soon over could I test a race with you?
I do not know however what is the best way to reinstall LPG and especially what is necessary for your races!
Can I go with a demo 2020 installation as described here? http://www.gplworld.de/en/grand-prix-legends/gpl-easy-installation-guide
I haven't run LPG online for a century !!!

Thanks


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 25, 2021, 11:51:21 AM +0100
Welcome Christian.

Looks like Google has changed GPL to LPG.   ;D

An expert will be along soon to advise but if you know that you like the 55mod then I guess that you must have that running?

There is a test server running at the moment for tonight's races.  Can you join it?  You will need iGOR and the correct 60fps patch. (60fps Patch   =    60fpsV2newmod)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 25, 2021, 12:01:23 PM +0100
Thank you Clive.
Yes, I have tested mod 55 before, but have since uninstalled everything!
Like I said, I'm a little new to running Gpl online ... and I have to reinstall everything :( 
I will try it this afternoon!


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on April 25, 2021, 12:55:08 PM +0100
Hi Christian

Welcome to UKGPL. Please vote using the buttons above. Once that is done I will be able to process your registration. I think you would be best suited to the Privateers race, see here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=25191#event14631).

Because you are starting late in the season you will be entitled to 5 tokens + 10 tokens for starting the race = 15 tokens.

So the only cars you cannot drive are Mercedes-Benz W196 SL and Mercedes-Benz W196.

Good luck sorting out your GPL installation, hope to see you on-track tonight.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 25, 2021, 01:12:32 PM +0100
Hello Phil.
 I think it will unfortunately be too fair for tonight ... everything to install and above all, ride, ride!
  A procedure to follow for the installation?


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on April 25, 2021, 01:35:23 PM +0100
Hello Phil.
 I think it will unfortunately be too fair for tonight ... everything to install and above all, ride, ride!
  A procedure to follow for the installation?
Everything you need should be in this thread (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6787.msg118356#msg118356).  Sorry it is only in English but I find this website (https://www.deepl.com/Translator) excellent for translating web pages. The text is below but you will need to go back to the original for the links. Stefan's website (http://www.gplworld.de/en/grand-prix-legends/gpl-easy-installation-guide) is the best step by step guide.

Les pilotes expérimentés peuvent souhaiter passer directement à la section sur la course en ligne...

1) Pour commencer

a) Tout d'abord, procurez-vous le disque de jeu, faites une recherche rapide sur ebay ou essayez ici.
b) Téléchargez le programme d'installation ici
c) Insérez le disque de jeu et exécutez le programme d'installation. Cela installera GPL avec diverses mises à jour et modules complémentaires. Si vous avez des problèmes, il y a un guide d'installation complet ici.
d) Si vous ne pouvez pas vous procurer un disque de jeu, le guide d'installation décrit comment utiliser la démo GPL 2004 ou la démo GPL 2020 pour commencer à utiliser GPL.
e) Afin de pouvoir utiliser les mods disponibles pour GPL, vous devez installer GEM.
f) C'est le moment d'installer les mods supplémentaires que nous utilisons fréquemment ici à UKGPL :
i) 1955 Grand Prix
ii) Formule 1 1965
iii) Formule 1 1966
iv) 1966 Can Am
v) 1967 Formule 2
vi) Voitures de sport 1967
vii) 1968 Formule 1
viii) 1969 Formule 1 (supplémentaire)
ix) 1971 Can Am

C'est tout ce dont vous avez besoin pour commencer. Si vous rencontrez des problèmes, faites-le nous savoir pour que nous puissions vous aider. Vous pouvez également consulter le forum d'aide GPL sur SRMZ.

Le disque est livré avec 11 pistes originales - au-delà, il y a des centaines d'autres pistes téléchargeables dans la base de données des pistes GPL.

Il y a aussi une myriade de choses que vous pouvez ajouter comme des mises à jour de pistes, un analyseur de relecture et un assistant de configuration, mais une étape à la fois...

2) Sortir en piste

Vous êtes maintenant bien équipé et prêt à partir, mais avant de vous lancer sur la piste, pensez aux points suivants ;
i) Contrôleur - il est vraiment utile d'envisager l'achat d'un volant et de pédales. Il existe de nombreux produits disponibles à différents prix - en général, plus c'est cher, mieux c'est, mais il y a de bons volants bon marché si vous voulez juste avoir une idée de la conduite. Vous pouvez utiliser le clavier mais vous risquez d'avoir du mal...
ii) Vue de la conduite - nous recommandons d'utiliser la vue du cockpit. Vous pouvez utiliser la vue de dessus mais à la longue, vous risquez d'avoir du mal, et il ne sera pas aussi facile de contrôler vos adversaires derrière vous.
iii) Aides à la conduite - utilisez-les pour commencer. Cependant, lorsque vous commencez à prendre de la vitesse, nous vous recommandons fortement de désactiver toutes les aides à la conduite. À long terme, elles vous empêcheront de jouer contre vos adversaires en ligne.
iv) Quel mod ? - Vous aurez envie de vous lancer directement dans les bêtes 67 d'origine. Allez-y, mais nous vous recommandons, une fois essayé, de commencer à apprendre votre métier dans les 65 ou 67 F2, plus tolérants, et de progresser vers les 67, 66 et 69.
v) Quel châssis ? Essayez-les tous - vous pourriez en trouver un qui vous convient particulièrement.

OK, maintenant que vous avez considéré ce qui précède, il est temps d'aller sur la piste... Mais quelle piste ? Eh bien, un bon début serait Silverstone ou Monza, mais vous pouvez avoir l'ambition de conquérir le Nurburgring immédiatement.
Maintenant, préparez-vous à vous écraser, car vous allez vous écraser, et beaucoup. Si vous faites la course avec l'IA, vous vous demanderez où ils sont tous passés une fois le drapeau tombé.
N'ayez crainte, nous sommes tous passés par là. Préparez-vous à beaucoup de pratique, puis encore un peu de pratique et enfin beaucoup de pratique. Nous pouvons vous assurer que ce que vous retirerez de GPL en vaudra la peine.
Quant à savoir combien de temps il vous faudra pour être prêt à affronter les pilotes de l'UKGPL, c'est comme demander quelle est la longueur d'une ficelle - cela dépend du temps que vous pouvez y consacrer, quelques semaines de pratique assidue sont envisageables.
En règle générale, vous devriez être capable de faire le tour d'une piste la plupart du temps sans aide à la conduite. À ce stade, ne vous inquiétez pas trop de vos temps de piste.
Un mot d'avertissement, laissez tomber les réglages par défaut, il y a beaucoup de réglages disponibles sur Internet pour le téléchargement (voir les liens ci-dessous).

Maintenant, il est temps de vous mettre en ligne...

3) Mise en ligne

Si vous êtes tout nouveau dans le monde de la GPL, commencez par rejoindre les serveurs d'entraînement et les courses d'IGOR. Rejoignez notre chatroom (#ukgpl) où vous trouverez souvent d'autres pilotes UKGPL. Montez sur n'importe lequel de nos serveurs (ne vous inquiétez pas, vous ne vous retrouverez pas dans une course de ligue, ils sont protégés par un mot de passe). Vous devez entrer dans iGOR via GEM qui applique les correctifs nécessaires avant de lancer iGOR.
Nous sommes tous très serviables et c'est un bon moyen de mettre en pratique vos nouvelles compétences et d'obtenir des conseils.
Une fois que vous pouvez vous déplacer en toute sécurité, il est temps de nous rejoindre dans nos courses de ligue. Au nom de la répétition, ne vous inquiétez pas trop de vos temps au tour à ce stade. L'UKGPL accueille les nouveaux pilotes et vous ne serez jamais pénalisé pour un manque d'expertise de conduite.

Sur cette bonne note, avant de commencer, consultez nos règles et règlements en mettant l'accent sur les règles sportives et l'étiquette. Ne vous inquiétez pas, vous n'avez pas besoin d'apprendre tout cela mot pour mot, c'est une question de bon sens.

4) Courses en ligne

La première chose à faire est de décider dans quelles divisions vous allez participer. Nous nous adressons aussi bien aux nouveaux pilotes qu'aux plus expérimentés. Vous pouvez trouver les divisions actuelles ainsi que les détails de la saison en cours sur la page d'accueil de la UKGPL.
Il suffit de voter sur le fil d'inscription approprié dans les Annonces et vous serez inscrit dans cette division et aurez accès aux mots de passe des courses.

5) Équipes

Une fois que vous serez installé, vous souhaiterez peut-être rejoindre l'une des différentes équipes existantes ou même créer la vôtre. Il suffit de contacter l'un des membres de l'équipe ou vous pouvez créer votre propre équipe en libre-service.

6) Navigation dans le forum

L'UKGPL fonctionne via le forum SROU. Il y a trois sections principales ; Annonces (inscription des divisions et autres) / Courses / GPL (pour tout autre sujet).
En entrant via ukgpl.com, vous aurez un accès direct aux derniers fils de discussion sur les courses et à des utilitaires supplémentaires tels que le téléchargement des reprises.

7) Liens / Ressources

Une recherche sur Google vous permettra de trouver de nombreuses ressources. En voici quelques-unes qui valent la peine d'être consultées ;
SRMZ - forum général GPL
Base de données des pistes GPL - téléchargements de pistes et d'installations.
GPL Rank - suivi de vos temps au tour.
GPL Wiki - beaucoup d'informations utiles
GPL Links - beaucoup de ressources

Alors bonne course et nous espérons que vous apprécierez de faire partie de UKGPL. Les commentaires sont toujours les bienvenus, il suffit de contacter un des modérateurs.
Si vous avez besoin d'aide, de conseils ou de quoi que ce soit d'autre pour démarrer, postez ici et nous ferons de notre mieux pour vous aider.

Traduit avec www.DeepL.com/Translator (version gratuite)



Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 26, 2021, 12:07:24 PM +0100
Hi Phil,
Well, with a little trouble, my installation works, maybe not at best, we'll see !! ;)

I need to familiarize myself with the mod / seasons / circuits installation now ...
I did not find how to recover the original circuit !!, and therefore could not test on the server.
  I did the installation from the 2020 demo, so I have no original circuits! I do have the original cd but no longer drive on my pc.

That gives me a little time, I must be able to do the last 3!  :)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: dave curtis on April 26, 2021, 12:50:35 PM +0100
That gives me a little time, I must be able to do the last 3!  :)

I've set a 1955 server running with the next track (hockenhm), in case you want to test.

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Cookie on April 26, 2021, 01:01:28 PM +0100

  I did the installation from the 2020 demo, so I have no original circuits! I do have the original cd but no longer drive on my pc.

That gives me a little time, I must be able to do the last 3!  :)

Not a good idea to start with this Demo, as it is not meant to race online with it!

Why not ask someone with a Laptop with CD drive and let install it from your CD. Zip it on an USB stick and forget all troubles...
you need https://gplps.wordpress.com/gplps-gpl-installer/ and all is fine. And its your language...

Copy this folder on your PC and run the "GEMPackage_2.5.0.32.exe" - get it at SRMZ

https://gpllinks.org/


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 26, 2021, 01:03:12 PM +0100
That gives me a little time, I must be able to do the last 3!  :)

I've set a 1955 server running with the next track (hockenhm), in case you want to test.

Cheers,
Dave.


Thank you, I will be able to test!


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 26, 2021, 01:09:10 PM +0100

  I did the installation from the 2020 demo, so I have no original circuits! I do have the original cd but no longer drive on my pc.

That gives me a little time, I must be able to do the last 3!  :)

Not a good idea to start with this Demo, as it is not meant to race online with it!

Why not ask someone with a Laptop with CD drive and let install it from your CD. Zip it on an USB stick and forget all troubles...
you need https://gplps.wordpress.com/gplps-gpl-installer/ and all is fine. And its your language...

Copy this folder on your PC and run the "GEMPackage_2.5.0.32.exe" - get it at SRMZ

https://gpllinks.org/

It may not be a bad idea ...  ;)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 26, 2021, 05:12:17 PM +0100
So I redid the installation as advised by Cookie!
However, since I cannot activate the GplShift mod (it tells me that it cannot open the .exe) ===========>this is now ok
and the 4go patch only accepts to take gplcxx.exe and not glp.exe (so I do not know if this 'is good !)

On the other hand where should i install the many files from the link for the Hockenheimring circuit ??

Sorry for all these questions ... I need to familiarize myself with all this

ah, yes and how can I change the vision, I can't see the bottom of the dashboard  ::)=========>For that I saw that we could activate the arrows in gplshift.ini, but it does not work !!

ah and then, it is not finished, I tested earlier and now ... "fatal error" ...==============>Gone as it came
Not that easy  :-[


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on April 26, 2021, 06:30:47 PM +0100
So I redid the installation as advised by Cookie!
Can't go wrong with Cookie's advice  :)

Quote
However, since I cannot activate the GplShift mod (it tells me that it cannot open the .exe)
Not sure what the problem is here. The GPLshift_Patch.exe should be run from inside your installation directory (normally C:\Sierra\GPL ). It will then patch the executable and be configurable by editing the options in the GPLshift.ini file. The settings will depend on what Wheel/shifter you have.

Quote
and the 4go patch only accepts to take gplcxx.exe and not glp.exe (so I do not know if this 'is good !)
Do you mean the 4GB Patch?

Quote
On the other hand where should i install the many files from the link for the Hockenheimring circuit ??
All the track files are stored in their own directory in the C:\Sierra\GPL\tracks folder e.g. for Hockenheimring circuit, all the files are in C:\Sierra\GPL\tracks\hockenhm

Most add-on tracks have an installer program which creates the directory for you.

Quote
Sorry for all these questions ... I need to familiarize myself with all this
No problem, we will help as best we can.

Quote
ah, yes and how can I change the vision, I can't see the bottom of the dashboard  ::)
If GPL Shift is running you can use left shift and arrow keys:

Code:
[ DRIVER VIEW ]----------------------------------------------------------------
Up&Down = 1                ;OPTIONS:            0       1            ;EFFECT:

                            ;0 =   OFF
                            ;1 =   Move the DRIVER VIEW up & down by using
                            ;      left Shift key with ARROW keys:             

                            ;      Up    =  Up
                            ;      Down  =  Down
                            ;      Right =  Not uset yet
                            ;      Left  =  Back to default position 

Quote
ah and then, it is not finished, I tested earlier and now ... "fatal error" ...
Not that easy  :-[
I suggest you install the add-ons one at a time and test it after each modification. Making a back-up copy of the installation before each change is a good idea. "fatal error" is not a useful debug error, but if you have a working installation you can go back to, at least you know which change caused the error.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 26, 2021, 06:48:39 PM +0100
 :)
Okay, this is progressing!
I can't upload the circuit to the server, I guess it's because I haven't installed all of the link files yet.
The 4 GB patch, yes. I do not know if essential besides (since it works like that)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Cookie on April 26, 2021, 07:05:26 PM +0100
Don't forget all changes will only work if you run the gpl mod out of GEM+

Gem+ patches the gplxx.exe!


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on April 26, 2021, 10:20:10 PM +0100
The 4 GB patch, yes. I do not know if essential besides (since it works like that)
The 4GB patch is not essential.

If the GPL Shift cockpit view adjustment is not working it suggests the patch had not been applied. Running the GPLshift_Patch.exe toggles the patch i.e. running it a second time uninstalls the patch. Have you run it twice?


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 27, 2021, 07:25:19 AM +0100
Hi Phil,
Well, it finally works!  And I was able to roll over to the server!  it should be fine for the next race.   ;)
I need to practice a bit now.  also test the other categories, why not  :)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on April 27, 2021, 06:01:39 PM +0100
Hi Phil,
Well, it finally works!  And I was able to roll over to the server!  it should be fine for the next race.   ;)
I need to practice a bit now.  also test the other categories, why not  :)
Bravo Christian, I hope you enjoy the other cars too. You will be a GPL addict soon  ;D


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 28, 2021, 07:51:20 AM +0100
It may not have its place here (to remove if it bothers) but I wanted to share it ... is that how it goes, the races in GPL ? ;D ;D

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=821748204901595&id=314227362320351&d=null&vh=e/ (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=821748204901595&id=314227362320351&d=null&vh=e/)



Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 29, 2021, 07:04:42 AM +0100
Hi

3 questions this morning ...
 Is there a way to reduce the dead zone of the g27 steering wheel in Gpl?
Can we know the training time of other pilots (to see if I'm in the game! ;))
And finally, should I announce my choice of car?


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 29, 2021, 09:18:25 AM +0100
Hi

3 questions this morning ...
 Is there a way to reduce the dead zone of the g27 steering wheel in Gpl?
Can we know the training time of other pilots (to see if I'm in the game! ;))
And finally, should I announce my choice of car?

Hi Christian,
I'm not sure about the dead zone but I can say that there is very little on-line practice these days.
Have a look here for times at Hockenheim in Season 36 https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=20182#event7652
There is no need to announce car choice.

I will send you an invitation to join SBRC, the best team that UKGPL has ever seen!   ;D
Then I will be able to send you some setups and lap replays for the upcoming 55mod races.  I can also run a server and join you on track for SBRC practice.

Also, don't forget that race and practice times at Hockenheim will be influenced by slipstreaming.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 29, 2021, 11:46:45 AM +0100
Hi

3 questions this morning ...
 Is there a way to reduce the dead zone of the g27 steering wheel in Gpl?
Can we know the training time of other pilots (to see if I'm in the game! ;))
And finally, should I announce my choice of car?

Hi Christian,
I'm not sure about the dead zone but I can say that there is very little on-line practice these days.
Have a look here for times at Hockenheim in Season 36 https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=20182#event7652
There is no need to announce car choice.

I will send you an invitation to join SBRC, the best team that UKGPL has ever seen!   ;D
Then I will be able to send you some setups and lap replays for the upcoming 55mod races.  I can also run a server and join you on track for SBRC practice.

Also, don't forget that race and practice times at Hockenheim will be influenced by slipstreaming.

Hi Clive,
If this is the best team ... how can I refuse ... ;D  (i did it, i don't know if i did the right thing !!)
I think I did 2.16 / 17 with the Maserati, still a little practice ... ;)   I will also try the other categories, why not, even if I am in the tail  :laugh:

slipstreaming ??


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 29, 2021, 12:46:40 PM +0100

slipstreaming ??

Slipstreaming = Following another car closely to reduce drag.  It makes a big difference at Hockenheim.


Just looked on GPLRank to see what the best times might be and found, to my embarasment, that it is me:
1   2:13.084   Clive Loynes   F1   Maserati 250F   Practice

In training my best is 2:13.834 so I must have had someone to follow in practice.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 29, 2021, 12:55:06 PM +0100
ok so i have to practice a bit ... ;)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Rainier on April 29, 2021, 12:55:37 PM +0100
slipstreaming ??

"Aspiration" en français  ;)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 29, 2021, 01:04:03 PM +0100
Thank you David.   :thumbup2:


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 29, 2021, 01:05:55 PM +0100
ok so i have to practice a bit ... ;)

I have sent setups and replays to you for the Maserati and the Lancia. 


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 29, 2021, 01:15:50 PM +0100
slipstreaming ??

"Aspiration" en français  ;)

 ;)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 29, 2021, 01:19:11 PM +0100
ok so i have to practice a bit ... ;)

I have sent setups and replays to you for the Maserati and the Lancia. 

Very well thank you.
Any idea for the dead zone of the G27 steering wheel?
Although it is less annoying with the 55 'but for the others, it is really annoying.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: dave curtis on April 29, 2021, 01:51:03 PM +0100
Any idea for the dead zone of the G27 steering wheel?

Ideally, you should set the dead zone as wide as possible, maybe 360 degees  (if you have joined SBRC  :laugh:  )


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 29, 2021, 02:02:57 PM +0100
Any idea for the dead zone of the G27 steering wheel?

Ideally, you should set the dead zone as wide as possible, maybe 360 degees  (if you have joined SBRC  :laugh:  )


I mean by dead zone an area in a straight line where the flywheel seems to float, without force


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 29, 2021, 02:33:41 PM +0100
Any idea for the dead zone of the G27 steering wheel?

Ideally, you should set the dead zone as wide as possible, maybe 360 degees  (if you have joined SBRC  :laugh:  )


I mean by dead zone an area in a straight line where the flywheel seems to float, without force

LOL
You need to set your translator to "English Humour".
Dave was not trying to be helpful.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 29, 2021, 02:44:56 PM +0100
Any idea for the dead zone of the G27 steering wheel?

Ideally, you should set the dead zone as wide as possible, maybe 360 degees  (if you have joined SBRC  :laugh:  )


I mean by dead zone an area in a straight line where the flywheel seems to float, without force

LOL
You need to set your translator to "English Humour".
Dave was not trying to be helpful.
ah! Sorry, Google Translate does not have this option ... ;D ;)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: bernie on April 29, 2021, 08:21:01 PM +0100
Hi Christian and welcome to SBRC , Good to see Mr Loynes has taken you under his wing , ( dont forget to ask him about the ( as yet secret ) 55 mod add on's for disk brakes and DRS which we will only ever use for fun races  ;D


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: dave curtis on April 29, 2021, 08:30:59 PM +0100
Hi Christian and welcome to SBRC , Good to see Mr Loynes has taken you under his wing , ( dont forget to ask him about the ( as yet secret ) 55 mod add on's for disk brakes and DRS which we will only ever use for fun races  ;D

ok, it's drifing a bit off the registration topic,  but re: better grip - have you seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I9RzW144B8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I9RzW144B8)

(GPL would never cheat like this!)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 29, 2021, 09:28:07 PM +0100
Hi Christian and welcome to SBRC , Good to see Mr Loynes has taken you under his wing , ( dont forget to ask him about the ( as yet secret ) 55 mod add on's for disk brakes and DRS which we will only ever use for fun races  ;D

 ;D


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: bernie on April 29, 2021, 10:14:53 PM +0100
Hi Christian and welcome to SBRC , Good to see Mr Loynes has taken you under his wing , ( dont forget to ask him about the ( as yet secret ) 55 mod add on's for disk brakes and DRS which we will only ever use for fun races  ;D

ok, it's drifing a bit off the registration topic,  but re: better grip - have you seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I9RzW144B8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I9RzW144B8)

(GPL would never cheat like this!)

Sacre Blue  ::)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on April 29, 2021, 11:03:02 PM +0100
ok so i have to practice a bit ... ;)

I have sent setups and replays to you for the Maserati and the Lancia. 

Very well thank you.
Any idea for the dead zone of the G27 steering wheel?
Although it is less annoying with the 55 'but for the others, it is really annoying.
I suggest the things to experiment with are:
  • The Logitech Profiler - I used to have a G25. I can't remember what settings to adjust but the Logitech software has an effect.
  • Core.ini - The "steer_ratio" setting changes the steering ratio at slow speeds but it also affects straight line stability.
  • Steering Linearity - Set this in the GPL options window - close to the linear maximum is best.
  • Steering Ratio in GPL car setup - I normally set to 9:1, lower ratios (5:1) make the steering too sensitive. Too high can give dead zone effect.
  • FFB patch (http://srmz.net/index.php?showforum=84) - This patch eliminates the non-physics (i.e. centering and damping etc) forces and reduces the latency so that the feedback from the road wheels is easier to feel.
There isn't a single setting that suits everyone. You will need to experiment until you find a compromise you are happy with.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: EvilClive on April 30, 2021, 08:27:22 AM +0100
I demand to know who allowed cameras into the Hiki Waza sponsored secret testing session for the Blue Moose 55 team at Imola!!!!!


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Cookie on April 30, 2021, 09:52:13 AM +0100
The Logi G2x FFB deadzone is hardcoded in the firmware.

At SRMZ is a long thread about it... (down ATM)

But my experience says it's less if you raise the steering bias, test it by driving a long straight line and do some weaving.
The rotation degree is 900° default, the lower you set it the bigger part of it will be the deadzone.  

I use G27 - 540° with FFB2 0-0-420(strength)
and raised my bias from 8/9 to 11-13 :D


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 30, 2021, 11:35:00 AM +0100
The Logi G2x FFB deadzone is hardcoded in the firmware.

At SRMZ is a long thread about it... (down ATM)

But my experience says it's less if you raise the steering bias, test it by driving a long straight line and do some weaving.
The rotation degree is 900° default, the lower you set it the bigger part of it will be the deadzone.  

I use G27 - 540° with FFB2 0-0-420(strength)
and raised my bias from 8/9 to 11-13 :D

What do you have as a setting in the Logitech profiler? GLOBAL and SPECIFIC parameters?
I put like you, but I still have almost 20 ° of dead zone in a straight line. (I test with the 65 ')

This dead zone does not exist, I believe, with other brands of steering wheel? Exact ?


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Cookie on April 30, 2021, 12:51:37 PM +0100
The explanations and ways to test are in SRMZ to read - when it's up again.

Afaik Logi has this fix dead zone because of the 2 motors that work with gears and would destroy each other in the middle position.
20° DZ is way too much! Just test extreme values at Monza 10k and you feel it.

Look into the readme of FFB2 patch and set it as adviced.

I left MS and only use linux where the driver is allready in the OS kernel, it works fine but has the same DZ as in windoze, so I raised the steering bias.

PS

Yes, direct or belt driven wheels don't have it. Even the old Momo doesnt have it because of only one motor...


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Christian Dauger on April 30, 2021, 01:07:42 PM +0100
The explanations and ways to test are in SRMZ to read - when it's up again.

Afaik Logi has this fix dead zone because of the 2 motors that work with gears and would destroy each other in the middle position.
20° DZ is way too much! Just test extreme values at Monza 10k and you feel it.

Look into the readme of FFB2 patch and set it as adviced.

I left MS and only use linux where the driver is allready in the OS kernel, it works fine but has the same DZ as in windoze, so I raised the steering bias.

PS

Yes, direct or belt driven wheels don't have it. Even the old Momo doesnt have it because of only one motor...

yes, I have already made several tests and adjustments the only way is the centering of the rebound but that is not pleasant since it forces permanently. With modern sims, we manage to remove this area, although it is not easy with Gtl and PnG! My G27 may be a bit old now!
In 3 months, it's my birthday, I have an additional idea ... ;D


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Cookie on April 30, 2021, 01:14:01 PM +0100
T300 or a fanatec wheel would be my choice

BUT
Trustmaster refuses yet to work with linux  ::)  (experimental stadium of a free version is available)

My test W10 settings:

(https://i.ibb.co/zHxZ1XY/G27.png) (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 21, 2021, 08:17:50 PM +0100
UKGPL10 is running Dundrod but I can't join.

The race list, at the beginning of this tread, states that it should be Dundrod50 so perhaps UKGPL10 is running the wrong track?



Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: dave curtis on May 21, 2021, 11:23:51 PM +0100
UKGPL10 is running Dundrod but I can't join.

The race list, at the begining of this tread, states that it should be Dundrod50 so perhaps UKGPL10 is running the wrong track?

Running with the correct version now.
Thanks for mentioning it.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 22, 2021, 08:28:50 AM +0100
UKGPL10 is running Dundrod but I can't join.

The race list, at the beginning of this tread, states that it should be Dundrod50 so perhaps UKGPL10 is running the wrong track?

Running with the correct version now.
Thanks for mentioning it.

No problem and thanks for the server.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: JPettet on June 05, 2021, 12:12:22 PM +0100
Hi, I am very interesting in competing for the rest of the season, beyond registering here and clicking the survey is there anything else I need to do to be eligible for tomorrows race?


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: Phil Thornton on June 05, 2021, 01:27:01 PM +0100
Welcome to UKGPL, I've processed your registration so you should be able to see the password (at the top of the race thread). I'll put you in the Privateers, their championship is decided so that will be better for the Works drivers who are still competing for the title.


Title: Re: Season 38 1955 GP - Registration
Post by: JPettet on June 05, 2021, 02:08:08 PM +0100
Thank you so much, privateers is fine - just looking for some seat time and experience