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Date: Tuesday 7th November - Steve McQueen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_McQueen) Memorial Race

Practice 1:	20:15	(10 mins)	full time drivers only
Practice 2:	20:25	(10 mins)	reserves may join too
Qual 2:	20:35	(20 mins)
Race:	21:00	(40 mins)

Cars allowed: any GT from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.1 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) - see this thread (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2228.0).
Weather: Dry
Track: Valencia GP
Race Start Time 14:00

Server: UKGTR GT (unmoderated overflow server using the standard practice password (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12) may be available for reserves who can't get into the main server)
Password: here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2342)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=36).
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).

Can't believe nobody has posted on this thread yet! Are you all keeping car choices firmly under hats? ;)

I'll want the Coca Cola RSR :)

Then you are one week late, or one week too early ;D. GT's this week. :)

Trusty Saleen for me, love that V8 engine with the soundpack, finally sounds like i am in a racing car from the cockpit.  8)

Anyone have a solution for un-even tyre temps when one side (drivers side) is constantly about 10-15kpa higher. Tried increasing springs on the passenger side which helps a little but not enough.
Also, losing time on that uphill right hand kink, what would be a good suspension tweak to deal with that?... a harder front left spring?  Need all the help i can get against those 550's and Lambos  :-[

Raise tire pressures to lower overall temp.... stop if the centre number is greater than those either side because then you're racing with a skinny bike wheel rather than a nice fat race tire :D

F550 like usual. Hope I last the race :D

I'll try and make it tonight. watch out for the mobile chicane.
Anyone got good set up for a lambo? I Need all the help i can get. lol

Im with Mark!!! The saleen is the sweetest car out there!!! Ill drive it anywhere (even Monza  ;) :D Sounds so sweet with soundpack installed!!! Hope its competitive against the current fav..the lambo

Sorry but gonna miss this race and next Gt sprint cause im still working away from home. Cant tell ya how frustrating this is........  :'( Only managed 1 online race since gtr2 came out, grrrrr!  So there will be a slot for a reserve driver going free.

I'll be taking the Lister for this one.

I would be in the Saleen tonight, but unfortunately can't make it :(

Afraid I can't make tonight either, last minute job cropped up. :(

I wont miss Valencia anyway. :)

Looking forward to this one. Will probably take the Lambo as have some sort of setup from the Endurance race on Sunday.

Bah! Damn game >:( Went off in 2nd place Paul and James went through and I came back on to the track in  23rd ??? Kept racing for a bit but when Paul made an error and I got through but I just kept getting the blue flag so after a while I decided to pit and end it early. I have no idea what happened but it was a bit of a bummer. Looked like it would've been an awesome finish to the race too :'(

Got baulked again in race...race ruined

felt like a mobile chicane again. Did a few practise laps this afternoon and was doing 131.2's then entered the race and the pressure got to me again and couldn't better a 133. Got shunted from behind on warmup lap and affected my aero but carried on. Towards the end of the race my tyres were in pieces and kept coming off. Suppose practise makes perfect.  Well done to podium and everyone who lapped me.

Gee you lads are fast.!!!  :hang:

Interesting race for me, only did 3 laps in the Maserati before i entered the server and didn't get much testing done in the short practice period either. The car was really hard to control over the bumps, especially in T1, which is where i lost it in the early laps. Tried to fight my way back through the field, but didn't get very far. :-/

Still an enjoyable race overall, looking forward to testing the Lister in Brno. :-)

Same story here mate.
I got 1.30 something in Quali but the race was another story. My car felt like Torvil & Dean near the end..
Came 17th but enjoyed the race immensley.

Good race all.

Very intersting race.
Didnt appreciate the over ambitious overtaking attempts, risking taking us both off, fortunatly I managed to survive.

Couldnt get a decent qual lap in, some you win some you loose.

Well Iv'e come to the conclusion that the 04 550 is crap.  After about 10 mins into the race it started misfireing, spluttering.  My only option was to short shift for the remainder of the race and nurse it home, needless to say it killed my pace and any hope of a decent finish.  Thats 2 races running where the engine has became problematic, fortunatly after sundays dead engine I was able to recognise the signs and ease off a bit.  Cant understand where this sudden engine problem has come from, and no I dont switch auto-clutch off.
Oh well might try the 03 550 or join the rest of the crowd in the Lambo.

I just got home from work and I turned the PC on and joined. 20 minutes left in qually. I didn't test any race setup, so I used my qually setup and got 2nd place after Jon (again, grats).

After the warmup lap the speed of the 550 gave me a position to show myself in Jon's left mirror. But it was too risky and unnecessary to try it in the first lap.
In the second lap I could just keep up in the tiwsty bits, and get a good exit out the last corner. That game me first place. After that I had to push hard to keep Jon behind me. Valencia is a easy track to defend when you haver a fast straight-line car. In lap 5 I noticed my fronts (softs) were overheating, and were often reaching 110-115 :o.
That's the hard lesson when you can't/don't practice a racesetup. So after lap 5 it was DEFEND!!!
First I had to keep Jon behind for several laps. We had an awesome session where we were next to eachother for a few corners. After he went off, I had a 575 and 550 behind me. At that point I had terrible understeer due to overheating and worn tyres (worn message after 27 minutes :o). I could keep the 575 behind me, just. I had to brake so early for some corners, because the car just didn't want to steer in. You can see me steering in waaaaay before the corners, but nothing happened.
Also with the 575 I had some door-2-door action through a few corners.
I probably had the slowest race-pace of all cars on track, but due to defensive racing, I could take the win with only 00:00:050 difference ;D

Great race for me (the battles, but terrible car (my own fault due to bad setup). Sorry if I held people up, but it was for position, and it was risky for me to get into pits with 4 cars behind.

That was hard work! Had more pace than in the endurance and had some great battles in the middle of the pack. Madd seemed to fly off into the distance at the start. I had Aagramm in sight but could never get onto his tail. Had to hold off a charging Saleen (mark?). I could pull a little gap and then he would come back up to me again so could never let up at all!

I think Madd had a coming together with a back marker and was in the gravel. After that he caught me up and gave me loads of grief. Thought he had me into the left hander at the end of the back straight so went wide to give him room up the inside and then saw him spinning in the mirror. Hope we didn't make contact and I apologise if it was my fault, will check the replay. He then began to catch me up again but it look like he went wide and hit something as his car was stood on its nose! Wierd.

Need a drink after that!

No you didn't touch me, I was seething after earlier 'incident'  >:(, I just pushed too hard, the car got stuck on a rumble strip of all things, nice bug simbin  :thumbdown: Not really a track I like, although pace was a little better than endurance, setup is getting there.....slowly.
I just seem to be having a bad run lately. >:(

PS
Did anyone have any warped cars at side of track?

Ah ok, np.

Yes had ruskus parked on the uphill right for 2 laps.

My pace was slow, but THAT slow ;)

Tough track, tough race. Was pleased to break 1:30 in qual, and was sitting comfortably in 9th until 5 cars pipped me in the last couple minutes. Was incredibly close in the midfield, think 8th to 15th were covered by only 1/4 of a sec.

The Valencia grid bug strikes again. Put me a place up in 13th, ahead of TrueTom. Flashed my lights and waited on the straight to encourage him to take his place, but he probably thought he was dealing with a crazy person and wanted none of it.  :o Was looking for a way to let him past without compromising my position to the next car early in the race. Tom got a run on me at T2 a couple laps in, and I got on the brakes early to make it easy.

Took meds for the race as I had wear problems in the NGT sprint on softs, but they didn't seem to help much, my pace still fell off considerably. Paul Richards kept me under pressure for most of the race, and Madd & Radius passed me fairly easily in their Lambos. At the end, Martin was catching quickly, while I was coming around to lap my team-mate. Sorry about the contact Gerald. After you ran wide I was suddenly catching you a rate of knots, and I didn't get on the brake early enough. Martin was able to get past while we tangled up, but very sportingly gave me the place back. Thanks Martin, much appreciated.  :thumbup1: We then had a last lap fight, and I just managed to hold him off. Well raced, another lap or two and I'm sure you'd have been past.

Congrats to Ruskus for the win.  :)

Very exciting race, i was praying it was 20mins longer. Took the lambo for fun as never driven it in anger b4..spent 30mins putting a setup together earlier and when i was confident for race...i had the "click-to-join-and-nothing-happens" THING!!! arghhhhhhhhhhhh

Tried every trick i know and just nothing. Was about to give up when my dad came in saying "son, im having trouble checking my mail" so i said there server is prob down lol and figured the laptop was screwing my connection. Dhut it down and VIOLA i joined np!

Actually yes a prob...just 2:30 mins left of quali. Loaded my setup and was out of pits...i swear i was about to cross the line saw "next session" went over s/f line...saw P2 in the top right cnr just as the session ended and thought YIPEEEE!!!! lol it wasnt to be i was still P26 hahaha...thought it was the save of the day but no luck!!! Just needed 1 second more

So...onto the race...so tuff to pass on that track and quick drivers in the 1:30's but i kept pushing forcing mistakes and taking the gaps...lap after lap...then saw my team mate perdy in sight and wanted to rub his nose in it but time ran out!! :)

So much fun...and the best 10th ever lol...made up 15 positions!!! gr all!!!

Wow, these races are so much better when you actually join the grid  ;D

Very tough work these GT monsters in the new game, i really felt like i was wrestling the Saleen around the track for non stop 40 minutes, finished the race sweating like a loon and with a stiff neck.

Found it tough going, getting a clean lap in qually with so many cars on this tight track, couldnt match my pb but was okay with my start point.
Had great race with Paul Richards in his Lambo for about 30 minutes always tucked within a second or so behind him, and a couple of cars just up ahead of him made for some good racing for a long time.
Inevitably the rear tyres started to go off and i eventually fell back a little, especially when caught by the rapid Radius and a recovering Martin S in his Mazza. Kept plugging away despite rear tyre temps of 220kpa :o and then got past Madd rip, who had been off, with about 2 laps to go and brought the car home 13th?
I love driving the Saleen and it sounds awesome but it just cant compete with the Lambos and Fezza's around this sort of track. :(

Brilliant racing all in all, enjoyed that.  8)

What a race  :)

got P3 in qual which I was a bit surprised, I thought the pace would have been quicker judging by the qualifying lap times of the endurance  races so was well chuffed

At the start of the race had real problems getting heat in my front tyres I went with mediums which I think was a mistake as it was just under steering for the first ten or so laps till I got some heat into them all this time Paul968 was trying to pass but I  just held on.

once they were warmed up i started to catch the leaders then Jon Moore came off and I Managed to catch Ruskus but had Paul968 right behind me so I was having to go defensive. I think I was a bit to cautious  when trying to pass Ruskus but I didn't want to cause a accident by stuffing it up the inside under braking as I just didn't feel confident under braking.

Then on the second to last lap I just went wide and put a tyre on the gravel which gave Paul968 the chance to pass   

Grats good race  :)

Decent 6th qually position and 4th in race for me. I didn't match my PB but pressure and track full of cars did their job slowing me down.

I prepared my race setup carefully (yet was not satisfied with springs and dampers). Seems to me that high anti-roll bars settings was the key to keep tires on my F550 last the race. By the way - I put meds all the way (thinking everyone else did :D)

Just 3-4 laps after the race start I got overtaken and dropped one place. Midrace climbed up to 4th, being +8s behind third and 12minutes to the race end.
To my surprise I managed catch up with the leading three drivers, and finally claim third position after a driver's fault. Funny I didn't notice any tire wear at all and managed to do some persistent 1.30.xxx all over the race. I even checked in MOTEC is my tire performance was any different between the first and last laps - but to my surprise they were identical! What a setup :D

Unfortunately, just 2 laps before the race end I made a mistake that could have resulted with some serious car damage. Even then I was able to catch up with the lead. If only race lasted 1-2 laps more........

Great race everyone. Keep the level high!

Can't wait for the results to see how my team-mates performed. FORZA 28CD!

Sorry Ossie for knocking you on warm-up, has some issues with my pc i think - what frame rates are people getting around Valencia?
i got 40 fps at best, 25 at worst  :-[

I'm running this...

P4 2.8
2 gig ram
point Of View 7800gs agp OC'd with 91.47 forceware
Soundblaster audigy 4
windows xp sp2
running at 59htz @ 1400 x 900 resolution on Viewsonic VA1912w

firewall off, security off, all other drivers up to date, all GTR 2 settings at low & medium (low shadows, simple debris etc) - is this what is should be expecting?

Frame rate seems to get worse with more drivers on any particular server, or if a server has a high (above 80) ping rate...when i race offline, i get 60/70+  fps all the way...

Any ideas anybody?

There's a topic (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2352.0) on this already.

opps ;D
It was great racing while it lasted Ruskus. Really hard to try and pass the 550. On any straight I just couldn't get close and by the time the braking point came it would've been too dangerous to attempt a pass. Grats on the win ;)

Many thanks  8)

Yes, Aagramn, I saw you flash lights and guessed what it was. Didn't really notice false grid. Besides, I still have a bad feeling for hitting you the other day. I saw you were courteous on s/f line, thanks for letting me pass cleanly. Don't have a wide monitor and I didn't dare to use rear view when entering a corner so I didn't exactly know where you were.  :)

Race was ok, yes, I was seeing several cars parked on track. Was avoiding them and losing time, too. You never know.  ;D

In lap 14 my engine died. First engine in GTR2, don't know if I lost more than 2 in GTR1. And I use autoclutch. But I must say I was torturing this engine quite high so I had it comming.  ;D

Doesn't matter, I joined just to see how these monsters act. I was quite pleased with the Viper performance, with some tweaks it would be even better. But not as good as Martin Steinmetz did in Endurance. I set it very soft, like Porsche in Endurance and it was very drivable, if not fast. Seems like it doesn't want to go into too high revs, though.  :(

Grats to winner and MJ for pressing the red button.  :P

TT

LOL!!!! Im still laughing at that episode :D

Might be a short delay getting the results up. I'm uploading the replay now, but it's transferring very slowly for some reason.

Replay and results are now available.

where???

It's an intelligence test. ;) First person to find both and post a link to them here gets to be crowned "Brain of Wednesday". :laugh:

lol

Results HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=233)

replay somewhere on w ww.ukgtr.org/replay/.......  ;)  :P

Thanks Aagramn   :)

There is a bug, carried over from GTR 1, where you get blue flag reports for no good reason, even on our pace laps! From my experience they usually occur at the same one or 2 places each lap and generally go away after the first few laps.

replay (http://www.ukgtr.org/replay/Valencia%20GP%20-%20GT%20Sprint%20061107.zip) and results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=233)

Thanks for the "price" dave ;D

You're welcome. :D

WICKED RACE!   :)

glad to finally have a bit of pace for a change....and almost no mistakes....only 2 spins lol !

Quali'd 5th which was a suprise, ahead of some faster teammates too!  :P

Started a comfortable 5th with pedro behind for half a dozen laps, then i had a mistake. And had locutos behind me whole race with pablo!

When spinning i stopped in middle of road (obviously couldn't help that) so i just stayed still cos i knew baracus and locutos where right behind. Sorry lads!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Grats to R24-7, all in top 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   (despite my best efforts to take pablo and baracus out??!   ???)

ps. and well done Rad! coming from the back with this standard of driving is tough! i slowed down for u to catch  ;)

That was the best race I've had in a long time  :) Wasn't expecting to get in so did no prep, but had a fantastic battle with James for much of the time, plus a great end as I almost managed to sneak past Ruskus on the line (50/1000s of a second!). Sorry to see Jon retire (you caught me out stopping like that m8). Really enjoying the GTs in GTR2, as they don't have that knife edge feeling out of the slow corners.

20 Finishers too, which is pretty good for a GT race, and only 2 got lapped. Great standard of driving  8)

tx!!! ur cheque's in the mail...1st class too  :D


agree fully, from 26th to 20th was a bit easy but to get up to 10th was really hard...very good standard of driving...fair and precise

This seemed a bit different mate, Where I went off I think it must've been near a section timer and I don't know if I missed it or something. I lost prolly about 5 secs going off but was a lap down on the rest of the field when I rejoined the track. At first I thought it was a bug but as the race went on It became obvious that It was something more.
Just gonna check the replay and see what it looks like on there
Yeah sorry mate I'd been gettin the blue flag and decided to pull over. Should've done it somewhere more appropriate.

GTR 1 used to miss the timing point at Monza at the second chicane. You could drive round it by going through the kitty litter and then had to do another whole lap for the timer to see you. Perhaps, as you say, Valancia contains a similar feature

Yeah looks that way mate. Just checked the replay and after my off everytime a car went through there my position dropped a place. I guess I'll know for next time ;)

Looking in the race exports, your 10th lap took 3:05. Probably 2 complete laps plus ~5 seconds lost for your off. Bad luck Jon.  :(

With this problem and the grid bug maybe we shouldn't use Valencia for any more championship races until (or if) a patch fixes it.

Hi I think I must have been missed as well cos on second I was say 4 secs behind car in front ,then it was much more also the gap altered by about 20 secs in around 4. Can understand that if ones goes off, but I was heading down the straight at the time. cheers gerald. ps Part of being a top driver is to arrange passing slower cars in a convienient place not barging into them.

Could they have been in the pits?

Its possible dave but have looked at the lap chart and it seems not. This was instant like 8 secs then 20 then 4 then 34. I thought someone was off the track thats makes you catch them quick. But it jumped forward as well. Also I had no time display a few seconds just a dotted line . cheers gerald ps my set up for gt was crap have tried one of team shark and knocked 1 sec off my best race lap easy. So must try harder to set car up next time . cheers gerald

That usually happens when the person behind has just been (or the person ahead is just about to be) lapped. It really doesn't cope very well with that!

In GTR and in GTR2 I've had a problem where your postion would change to another players. If you were 4th it'd read 7th for some reason and you would also get that persons time differences to the cars in 6th and 8th but it normally only lasts for 10 secs or so then slips back to normal but can be confusing.