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Title: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Cookie on January 04, 2021, 10:04:41 AM +0000
Season 38 – 69Xtra Fun Race –  Montjuïc Park 69


For the last round of the 38 xmas fun season we go to Montjuich Park 69, this new version has the correct double jump and a narrower approach to the hairpin. The Griego to Vias section is also narrower.

This track was a street circuit on Montjuich mountain above Barcelona. A twisty tricky circuit, it was the site of the tragic 1975 Spanish Grand Prix. Many drivers felt that the circuit was unsafe, and two time world champion Emerson Fittipaldi withdrew in protest before the start of the race. On lap 26 the Embassy Hill-Lola car of Rolf Stommelen left the track, killing five people. The race was subsequently stopped at half distance and half points awarded, with Jochen Mass being recorded as the winner. Lella Lombardi became the first female driver to score world championship points, taking 0.5 points for 6th place. Formula One never returned to the circuit after the accident.
 
Race date = 05.01.2021
GPL Mod = 69x
60fps Patch = 60fpsV1
Track dir/DL = montjc69 (http://montjc69.gplworld.de/)  28 laps
Server = UKGPL_8
Password? = YES
Race list = iGOR
Race mode = intermediate - resets allowed - no stop+go
Qualifying starts = 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race starts = ~ 21:30 UK time
IP address = at iGOR
Replay = here (https://)

Please, excepting emergencies, no chat until Session Completed in qualification. No chat in the race until after ALL drivers have crossed the finish line.

GLA + FUN


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: bernie on January 04, 2021, 01:14:01 PM +0000
I went to Barcelona to watch this Grand Prix on the magnificent MontJuich circuit .
I was in the crowd only a few feet away from where Rolf Stommolen crashed  into the spectators
It really was a terrible scene , every time I race GPL here I think of those poor people who lost there lives on that day,  all because of those ridiculous wings and the barriers that collapsed due to a poor installation .  :( :( :( 
Fortunately we can race GPL with impunity !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Cookie on January 04, 2021, 01:46:57 PM +0000
I have seen many races in my life, the only fatal accident was at Hockenheim in 1968, but that happened in a spectator-free zone without crash barriers....
We were sitting in the Sachskurve and saw the ambulance on its way back.

But the most spectacular accident I saw was ~ 1968 in the Ostkurve when Helmut Kelleners lost his brakes in the new Mercedes AMG 300SEL 6.3
It crashed with full force at a shallow angle at about 270 km/h into the concrete wall and knocked it over in front of us. The car turned 180° and Helmut opened the door uninjured.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slmarket.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F12%2FMercedes-300SEL-6.3-AMG-Spa-19711.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: bernie on January 04, 2021, 05:24:35 PM +0000
Hockenhiem 68 Jim Clark  ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Cookie on January 04, 2021, 05:37:00 PM +0000
Hockenhiem 68 Jim Clark  ?

yes


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 04, 2021, 11:46:43 PM +0000
I was in the crowd only a few feet away from where Rolf Stommolen crashed  into the spectators
That was a lucky escape for you Bernie. GPL gives some impression of what it must have been like to race these beasts around a street circuit but without the danger. Wing failure isn't something that is simulated in GPL but I don't need a failure to crash on this track. The humps a difficult enough without a crippled car, no wonder he crashed.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on January 05, 2021, 06:59:47 PM +0000
Speaking of wings, I have never really tried to use the 69s in anger - I assume in such a tight circuit that we want pretty high wing settings, would 11 be about right or all the way to 15 (not very Spinal Tap  ;D). Is there a rule of thumb for how balanced/close they need be front vs rear?

Arf


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Cookie on January 05, 2021, 07:32:26 PM +0000
My rule of thumb with wings is

The more corners the more wings! - there is only one short straight road at Montjuich...

And dont forget to make the wheelrate proportional stiffer!

I prefer a little less wing at the rear, but that is depending on your driving ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: maddog on January 05, 2021, 08:45:34 PM +0000
Most here know it's possible to change the cars appearance, by clicking the GRAPHICS arrow, on the player, car selection page.  High wings for Montjuich.  Ours have been tested and do not break, but give no extra speed. :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: EvilClive on January 05, 2021, 09:44:04 PM +0000
Screen freeze on lap 4  :-\

It was fun until then, hustling the Eagle around this track. I like the new track a lot...I didn't enjoy the disco  :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Baab on January 05, 2021, 10:05:14 PM +0000
Screen freeze on lap 4  :-\

It was fun until then, hustling the Eagle around this track. I like the new track a lot...I didn't enjoy the disco  :(

Same here, at about that point too.  I have a new PC and my connection was shocking, fps dropped to 35 at times and game play was stuttery...hmm.  When racing here in 2015 with my old PC all was fine.  Disappointed because my new system is a big leap from t'old un.  I pretty much have all Win 10 security turned off too, any advice welcome!  Hope to sort it by the weekend, summat to do during Covid.  BTW did I hear 1 in 50 have it atm in the UK?  Yikes.  Keep safe everyone.

Cheers, Bob.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on January 05, 2021, 10:25:16 PM +0000
Baab, I think 1 in 50 Londoners were reported as having it, but the rates per 100k are shocking everywhere in the South East.

That was fun but demanding, I'm knackered. Just wanted to say well done to Martin for the maddest drive I have ever seen. You passed me sideways and still managed to reign it in for the corner after the jumps and I was amazed by how quickly you were going with no apparent control  ;D :D ;) ;D

Well done to anyone that finished - disappointed that my Core.ini file didn't stop Baab's issues, was looking forward to throwing that at you for ever after!!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 05, 2021, 10:28:57 PM +0000
The track was perfect for me. 60fps the whole time and no lag. Great track but very hard work in these cars, not a moment to rest. Managed a podium but only because of mistakes/misfortune ahead. Great race with Arf, Fulvio and Martin. I had 11 deg front and 13 deg rear so I had a decent top speed which made me difficult to pass. But on the climb up to the finish I had to feather the throttle which I think allowed Martin and Fulvio to climb all over my gearbox.

Hope you enjoyed it Arf, if you haven't driven these cars much you picked a baptism of fire on this track. It was tough! Grats to Andreas on the win and Fulvio for a very mature drive. Applied constant pressure until I cracked!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on January 05, 2021, 10:30:34 PM +0000
Correction the front page of the BBC website says that one in 50 people in England now has it...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: dave curtis on January 05, 2021, 10:35:17 PM +0000
I had a GPL lockup/freeze in qually with about 5mins left - just as I touched the barrier on the left side somewhere within sector 2.

The race itself was ok, mostly 60FPS  but I was getting low FPS at times, around 48-50FPS.  Practice run alone earluer on the server seemed a bit better.

For the race, I switched off the fountains, removed any track sounds & used the lesser horizon/sky options.

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Cookie on January 05, 2021, 10:42:53 PM +0000
Good news: there is no more flu in our country!

My race was too much effort without a break, so I got out, sweating wet with a red head.

Bob look at Stefan Roess http://www.gplworld.de/en/grand-prix-legends/gpl-easy-installation-guide

To the GPU settings as your GPU sleeps running GPL!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 05, 2021, 10:52:46 PM +0000
Disappointed because my new system is a big leap from t'old un.  I pretty much have all Win 10 security turned off too, any advice welcome! 
In my experience, the main improvements are in the graphics settings. I have an Nvidia card and I have to set the graphics options for each executable. You have to do a similar thing with the Radeon cards but I've no experience with them.

If it is any help I've done some screenshots of my settings and put them in a PDF. See here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TdWGplv8K9BPSVju7mtnu5sL_9N7v7nt/view?usp=sharing). I select the Open GL V2 rasteriser in GEM+.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: fpolicardi on January 05, 2021, 10:53:03 PM +0000
The track was perfect for me. 60fps the whole time and no lag. Great track but very hard work in these cars, not a moment to rest. Managed a podium but only because of mistakes/misfortune ahead. Great race with Arf, Fulvio and Martin. I had 11 deg front and 13 deg rear so I had a decent top speed which made me difficult to pass. But on the climb up to the finish I had to feather the throttle which I think allowed Martin and Fulvio to climb all over my gearbox.

Hope you enjoyed it Arf, if you haven't driven these cars much you picked a baptism of fire on this track. It was tough! Grats to Andreas on the win and Fulvio for a very mature drive. Applied constant pressure until I cracked!
Great race behind you Phil till you spun at T1, almost no way to pass without mistakes. Only I ask if you had stiil the tires at the end of the race with all those kisses to rails  ;D
Also entusiastic final laps with Andreas  :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 05, 2021, 10:57:31 PM +0000
Only I ask if you had stiil the tires at the end of the race with all those kisses to rails  ;D
They just survived ;) But if the front wing damage was modelled and they were as delicate as they are in real-life, they would have been smashed to pieces after a couple of laps!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: AnGex on January 06, 2021, 12:02:52 PM +0000
...
Also entusiastic final laps with Andreas  :rockon:

Yes, it was mega. I enjoyed it too. It was a great race with the best mod for me on a great track.
You were getting closer and closer in your Ferrari. Great driving!  :thumbup1:
A few people were faster than me and would have won easily, but I'll take it anyway.  :punk:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Alain Maurice on January 06, 2021, 12:51:47 PM +0000
Good morning all.

Impossible last night to drive correctly on the server, my car was jumping as if I was on a 36fps server but in 60fps while I was well in 60fps but not in V1 because not possible under GEM to select it.

GEM only offers me 60fpsV2 or 60fpsV2newmod, not 60fpsV1, I think that's why my car was jumping on the server.

Why use 60fpsV1 when we were usually in V2newmod ?

Because of the circuit?
From the 69x mod?

Thank you and see you soon  ;)

Happy new year all


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: maddog on January 06, 2021, 01:39:52 PM +0000
Sad news Alain.  You must have the V1 in GEM+/Options folder.  More good ideas for good framerate from the guys here.

An easy win for Bob, but for a testing track.

My race was lost at the first corner.  By being cautious I let Cookie by.  Then discovered I was faster on slow corners, and slower on fast corners.  It's not a winning combination, and our fight allowed the pack to close in.  Sorry to have tagged an Axle mid-race, while approaching a polite back marker, as it ended our battle. :'(

At race end, Andreas had won by patience, while friendly folk took turns to guard his tail.  And I battled my tyres with Phil, who beat me by tyre, sheer luck, and skill.

To Colin - I hope you didn't inhale too much smoke.  Lockups can be less healthy than lock downs.  BTW, the name I use at Ukgpl, originated years ago in California.  I used to Auto-X a Supercharged BMW during Summer months, and was told, "Mad Dogs and Englishmen go out . . .", for reason's unknown. ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Cookie on January 06, 2021, 01:53:23 PM +0000
Good morning all.

Impossible last night to drive correctly on the server, my car was jumping as if I was on a 36fps server but in 60fps while I was well in 60fps but not in V1 because not possible under GEM to select it.

GEM only offers me 60fpsV2 or 60fpsV2newmod, not 60fpsV1, I think that's why my car was jumping on the server.

Why use 60fpsV1 when we were usually in V2newmod ?

Because of the circuit?
From the 69x mod?

Thank you and see you soon  ;)

Happy new year all


Sorry Alain

Yes - the 69X mod is the only mod that can't be run with 60fpsV2newmod!

That is why I use the PW = 60fpsV1  ::)

I give you the V1 files -> https://www.sendspace.com/file/ywdgxx

Put them in .../GPLSecrets/GEM+/Options/ folder to see them in GEM+

If you want to drive with AI use the 60fpsaiV1 to get the correct rideheight of the AI - test it at Spa67 with 69X the AI are pretty good there...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) - Montjuïc Park 69 - Jan 5
Post by: Alain Maurice on January 06, 2021, 03:48:58 PM +0000
Hello Cookie

Ok thanks for the folder.

 :)