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Season 38 1965F1 – Round 1 –  Oulton Park

Season 38 starts at Oulton Park, which is about 30 miles south east of Liverpool and about 30 miles south west of Manchester. This track has never hosted a championship F1 race, but hosted non-championship F1 races most years from the mid-1950s until the early 1970s. Unfortunately, there wasn't an F1 race here in 1965, so there isn't a race to compare with our efforts. Jack Brabham won it in 1966 and 1967. Jim Clark won it in 1962 and 1963. Stirling Moss had the last of his five F1 wins at Oulton Park in 1961. This was notable because it was his last F1 win in Europe. His car that day was also notable as this was the only time that a four wheel drive car won an F1 race. The Ferguson-Climax P99 was a collaboration between two companies possibly better known for tractor manufacture and forklift manufacture.

NOTE: DUE TO THE NUMBER OF ENTRANTS, THIS EVENT/SERIES WILL RUN OVER 2x GRIDS/SERVERS
Further information re: driver lists below

Connect to the correct server;  note there are 2x passwords!
PRO password at the top of the page - follow the link.  AMS password just above THIS race post

Race list	=	iGOR
Server#1 (PRO/WORKS)	=	UKGPL_8	Server#2 (AMS/PRIVS)	=	UKGPL_10
IP address	=	92.116.132.83	IP address	=	217.155.118.41
Password	=	see above (#post_event_password)
GPL Mod	=	65F1
60fps Patch	=	60fpsV2newmod
Track download	=	oulton (http://www.zenadsl5531.zen.co.uk/Tracks/Oulton/)
Qualifying starts	=	20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race starts	=	~ 21:30 UK time
Race length	=	29 laps
Replay Ams	=	here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/ngnv3d)
Replay Pro	=	here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/uz2uyj)

Be aware that the track being used here is the Oulton Park 1967 Spring Cup version called oulton, not the v2, MC or Fosters alternatives.

Handicapping:
There will be no handicapping.  Drivers have a free choice of chassis. Unlimited number of Shift-Rs are allowed with no need to make Stop & Go.

Only reported incidents will be moderated.

Please, excepting emergencies, no chat until Session Completed in qualification. No chat in the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Driver lists and division specific rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1322&theme=6).

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NOTE: DUE TO THE NUMBER OF ENTRANTS, THIS EVENT/SERIES WILL RUN OVER 2x GRIDS/SERVERS

Based on the current 67 Works/Privateers lists, the split will be:

65 PRO/WORKS  -  Join UKGPL_8
Alain Maurice (FT)
AnGex (FT)
Arf Arf Arf (FT)
bagrupp (FT)
Cookie (FT)
Doni Yourth (FT)
EvilClive (FT)
fpolicardi (FT)
MagicArsouille (FT)
Baab (R1)    
Raoni Frizzo (R1)


65 AMS/PRIVATEERS  -  Join UKGPL_10
Eric Bilodeau (FT)
philippe GIRARD (FT)
Rainier (FT)        
b_1_rd (FT)        
bernie (FT)        
dave curtis (FT)    
francesco (FT)    
Leo Galán Barlo (FT)
il_lupo_mannaro (FT)
PaulV (FT)          
Phil Thornton (R1)  
maddog (R1)        
Pete Bennett (R1)

As a result of the splt, reserve drivers can join their server immediately / no need to wait.

Link to track doesn't work.

fixed

Drivers have a free choice of chassis = Lotus 33 Cup ?   :D

No!
I will drive a BRM whole season!

But I suspect most driver will be in a Lotus or Braby BT11 ::)

This is an open series on a spare Tuesday night slot where we can have some fun with the minimum of rules. If the fast drivers want to take the fast cars and disappear into the distance (effectively hot lapping on their own), they are welcome to do that. My preference is for a race long duel where I can swap places with a driver multiple times (I admit I do prefer to come out on top in the end  ;D ). In essence my ultimate achievement would be to win the race in the slowest possible car.

So given that I love Oulton Park, it is my "local" circuit (where my father used to take me to watch bikes in the early sixties) I'll be doing this round and picking a car to have fun in, maybe a Ferrari?

More than 20 are registered, how many grids?

We are just discussing this on the moderators forum. We may decide to have 2 grids, one for "fast" drivers and one for "regular" drivers.

As mentioned by Phil, this series will run over 2x grids/servers due to tbe number of entrants.

Based on the current 67 Works/Privateers lists, the split will be:

65 PRO/WORKS
Alain Maurice (FT)
AnGex (FT)
Arf Arf Arf (FT)
bagrupp (FT)
Cookie (FT)
Doni Yourth (FT)
EvilClive (FT)
fpolicardi (FT)
MagicArsouille (FT)
Baab (R1)     
Raoni Frizzo (R1)


65 AMS/PRIVATEERS
Eric Bilodeau (FT) 
philippe GIRARD (FT)
Rainier (FT)         
b_1_rd (FT)         
bernie (FT)         
dave curtis (FT)     
francesco (FT)     
Leo Galán Barlo (FT)
il_lupo_mannaro (FT)
PaulV (FT)           
Phil Thornton (R1)   
maddog (R1)         
Pete Bennett (R1)


Specific server details will be updated later.

As a result of the splt, reserve drivers can join their server immediately / no need to wait.

Good morning all

It will not come as a surprise to anyone but the 65 cars are very close in performance on this kind of circuit.


engine           power BHP          wheelbase cm        Speed       F track cm R track cm   weight kg        BHP/metric ton

Brabham BT11    1497cc, 32-v V8       213 @ 10500   233,7   142,2     142,2   471                    452     
Brabham BT7      1497cc, 16-v V8     200 @ 9750      233,7   142,2     142,2   476                    420                  
BRM P261           1498cc, 16-v V8     220 @ 11700     229,9    137,2     134,6   466                    472                  
Cooper T77        1497cc, 16-v V8      200 @ 9750      235      142,2     138,4   466                    429                  
Ferrari 1512       1490cc, 24-v F12     225 @ 12000    240      137,9     134,9   476                    473                  
Honda RA272     1495cc, 48-v V12     240 @ 12000     230,1   134,9     136,9   486                    494                  
Lotus 33            1497cc, 32-v V8      212 @ 10300     232,9   142,2     142,2   456                    465   

Just for anyone that didn’t see it (me first time) The lower password is for Ams even though it seems to show pro.  They both show pro   :)

Ams password is below the lap records.

Sorry for the connfusion gents. Ams password is below the lap records.

I made a mistake due to tiredness and to correct it I took the steering wheel to the limit.When reach the limit the steeringw don't work correctly so the rest of the race with the steeringwheel forced to the right.Lost a third position.

arfff !...I did not read enought the rules for this serie and don't remember about the shift-r ...first I was thinking my race is over when my engine fail....then I rejoint the pits and in the doubt I try shift-r and it's work ...:D !!! so I go again but I can only finish on the last step of the podium , loosing to mutch time whith the shift-r...
Well done Raoni and Alain...see you next time guys ...

Unlucky Fran, it was a close race. I could see you on Pribluda and in my mirrors most of the race. Commiserations to Eric, you had me under pressure the whole race. I guess you had to push the little F12 too hard  :o . Looks like it is a clean sweep of the podium for the moderators  :angel:

Unfortunately, I couldn't keep my concentration after I got a phone call just before the race telling me of the death of an old family friend.

 :-\

Very sorry to hear that Axel. My thoughts are with you.

Good morning all

Well done Raoni and Tristan.
It all started badly, I could not ride properly for practice until I chose another setup that will allow me to be 3 for the start.
This one goes very well because I gain 1 place because Raoni is andicapé by the weight of his BRM.
Tristan is fast as usual, but the suction keeps me in touch.
After several laps, Raoni comes back on us, after a small error, we lose contact with Tristan and both will be on several laps - one second.
Later, Tristan broke his engine and, not knowing the rules, carried out a reset at the pit when he could have done it on the track, his manager was involved for lack of information.
We have the victory then, I am now 1 and Raoni exerts a lot of pressure behind me.
I am concentrating on having a good trajectory because it is faster but my braking is missed on the last corner, Raoni passes.


Now it's my turn to follow him, at turn 3 I am close to his right and we are touching each other, I think I made a mistake and wait for Raoni, this one in his damaged car and driving slower.

Fortunately, Tristan is far away and we finish the race like this, well done for this great victory, well deserved Raoni, a race with a lot of fun, thank you.


Well done everyone, thank you to the organizers and see you soon

But the next race is at Cadwell or Brands? In the registration appear Cadwell,Phillip ,Killarney in the championship appear Brands,Goodwood,Killarney.

Another demonstration of poor race driving from me!  :-\  sorry to Bernie and PaulV and I think at least one other if I nearly took you out.

Spent most of the first half of the race recovering from spins or off track.

Experiencing the same as years back when I drove regularly that the car feels very different in race than in practice. I have the same setup selected and same fuel amount so I guess it’s my lack of skill rather than anything else.

No, Raoni is keyboarder and can not rev high at start, he will allways do a slow start!

The next couple of races in this 65 series are Cadwell Park & Phillip Island  (were changed to be different to the Mixed Open Wheel series) as mentioned in  this comment (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=23432.msg441321#msg441321)  in the registration thread. 

You are right though about the next events showing on championship standings table - they will be updated.

Cheers,
Dave.

AMS server replay available from:  here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/ngnv3d)

Pro replay https://www.sendspace.com/file/uz2uyj

Plain forgot about Shift/R's, so when I hit a sign board and lost a wheel I quit  :-\

Fixed now.

From the drop of the green flag right on through to the checker, it was flat-out motoring for me.  I was getting fatigued at one point wondering if we were nearing the finish when I glanced at my pit board to see how many laps were left to run.  It read 20.  WTF???  Such was the pace and involvement that I had completely lost track of all time and really did think we were well past the halfway point.  I had Andreas breathing down my neck ready to pounce on any mistake and the pace plus his attentions made time stand still.

Grats to Ray on the win and to Alain for a good P2.  Tristan a fortunate P3 thanks to a reset for a blown motor.

The start was a drama I didn't need what with Baab ricocheting off the pitwall Armco and looping it.  Thought that I might get involved but no, made it by safely.  Colin got caught up in gaffe to lose time.  Starting Lap03, I think that I inadvertently shafted my Blue Moose teammate, Evil Clive, with my line into, through and out of T1.  In all previous runnings of the Honda here, I always changed down to 2nd gear but in the pre-race prep for the round, in qualifying and in the race, I only went down to 3rd gear for T1 as I found it smoother on acceleration on exit.  It may have actually cost me a little time but I felt more comfortable with it.  Clive almost hit my tail and doing his utmost to miss me, steered off the road and lost a position.  Sorry for that, Clive.

Lap04 and I found myself in P6 chasing Andreas when he went wide in Knickerbrook and took to the grass on the outfield.  I was able to skip by on his right and take the place but as has happened so often in the past, I just knew that AG would be mounting a fierce counter-attack.  This did not overly concern me as history can show that in the many races where Andreas and I have crossed swords, I know that he exercises precise, skillful judgement and doesn't make faint-hope stabs up the inside for a lucky pass that puts us both in peril.  When he makes a move, better be prepared to yield.  Racing with AG is always a toss-up as to whom will emerge the victor and indeed, is always a pleasure.

Late in the going, I made a poorish entry to T1 and had to change right down to 2nd gear to have the grunt needed to pull off the corner with any authority.  I could just sense AG right behind licking his chops at the prospect of finally get the place back but no, there just wasn't enough time or space for him to make a bid.  We finished up line astern in P4 and P5.  Great job, AG!  :)

Sorry to see that Axel ran into misfortune along the way as surely he would have finished well up.

I did exactly the same!!!

it felt very long, yes.

Back to such lovely cars after some years, I didn't expect to be soooo slow: I really need to learn how to properly drive them again...
After the first big mistake I decided to quit.
See you on track guys.
Cheers

fL

Thank you for the compliments, I can only return them. It's always a great pleasure to ride with you. The duels are always heart-stopping!  :fencing: