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Title: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 12, 2021, 11:20:38 PM +0000
Season 38 – 1955 Grand Prix – Round 1 – Works - Oakes Field

This race announcement is for the WORKS.

The first race in the 1955 Grand Prix series sees us taking a boat to Nassau in the Bahamas. The first Nassau Trophy Road Races meeting for Sports Cars was held in 1954 on the Windsor Field Course. For 1957, the meeting was moved to another airfield location, the 5 mile Oakes Course, which was closer to the main population areas on the island. The new course, despite being quite bumpy in places, was relatively well-received, though there were a number of close shaves near the pits as it was too close to the racing line. To combat this, the race direction of the track was changed to clockwise in 1958. The circuit was also shortened to 4.5 miles by cutting out the original Blackbeard's Bend and Ecky's Twist, whilst a new left-right-left corner combination was built to connect the Sassoon Straight and Bethell's Pass, cutting out the tight hairpin which had previously taken the cars off the runway. Due to much needed track repairs and the lack of additional funding by the Bahamian government, as well as competition from more races running in December, the event was discontinued after the 1966 meeting. It is the clockwise 4.5 mile Oakes Course that we will be using for tonight's race.

Race list = iGOR
Server = UKGPL04_60fps
IP address Server = 86.6.125.152:32766
Password = see above (#post_event_password)
GPL Mod = 55
60fps Patch = 60fpsV2newmod
Track download = link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=11166)
Track directory = nassau
Qualifying starts = 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race starts = ~ 21:30 UK time
Race length = 16 laps
Replay = here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oVU163i3fqqN0MIPRYAwcLhTOVqBroVH/view?usp=sharing)

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Driver lists and division specific rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1272&theme=6).

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver        Tokens  Status
Alain Maurice
10
Works
bagrupp
10
Works
Carlos Cendejas
10
Works
Clive Loynes
10
Works
Doni Yourth
10
Works
Dulima
10
Works
Enrique Farina
10
Works
EvilClive
10
Works
fpolicardi
10
Works
Gaizka López C
10
Works
JonnyO
10
Works
Phil Thornton
10
Works
Raoni Frizzo
10
Works
romanov
10
Works
tagomago
10
Works


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Jan 17
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 13, 2021, 08:53:28 AM +0000
The registration page suggests that there is a name missing from the list?



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Jan 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 13, 2021, 06:23:57 PM +0000
The registration page suggests that there is a name missing from the list?
Yes you were correct Clive. Luiz (covisi2016) had registered but I hadn't processed his entry. Done that now so we are up to 22 drivers. I don't want anyone to miss out on Sunday so I'll provide 2 servers, one for the Works and one for the Privateers. We had to do this with the 65s yesterday, both races and both passwords will appear in the same thread.

I originally had Gaizka as a Privateer until I checked his ranking in GPL Rank (https://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/php-pub/gplrank.php)  :o. To be fair, he hasn't got a GPL55Rank but I'm sure that will be addressed over this season.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Jan 17
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 13, 2021, 06:45:29 PM +0000
How about Bernie?  Should he not be a Privateer?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Jan 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 13, 2021, 06:57:13 PM +0000
How about Bernie?  Should he not be a Privateer?
Opps yes, I'll fix that.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Jan 17
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 14, 2021, 04:04:44 PM +0000
I don't want anyone to miss out on Sunday so I'll provide 2 servers, one for the Works and one for the Privateers. We had to do this with the 65s yesterday, both races and both passwords will appear in the same thread.



Does that set the pattern for the whole season?  So there will be a Works Championship and a Privateer's Championship but no "Combined"?





Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Jan 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 14, 2021, 05:41:57 PM +0000
Yes that's right, the "Combined" series is redundant when we use 2 servers.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Jan 17
Post by: maddog on January 14, 2021, 07:07:13 PM +0000
As two passwords will be used, it would help if they appear close together.  I showed up at the '65 works convention this week, only because that's the password I saw 1st. One thread means double trouble! :-\  Those without full English may not read instructions.  BTW - that is why chat has not died.  Onwards to glory!

EDIT  :
The automated system does this 2 times  :  49 hours until password released (you are a first reserve in Works).  Two threads, or a PM to every Privateer for a race or 2 would prevent confusion.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Jan 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 14, 2021, 08:12:41 PM +0000
One thread means double trouble! :-\  Those without full English may not read instructions.  
Yes you are right Martin, I was making it too confusing. I've created 2 race announcements each with their own password.
This announcement has become exclusively the "Works", the other is exclusively the "Privateers (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=23692.msg447462#msg447462)".

Hopefully this is less confusing  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: maddog on January 14, 2021, 08:18:53 PM +0000
I was trying to reply . . . new thread started  . . . . extra work makes for happy motoring.  Thanks go to our Lord and overseer, Phil. :angel:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: tagomago on January 15, 2021, 06:58:58 AM +0000
Please go to

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=23372.msg447611#msg447611

for my opinion about splitting the league

Cheers


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: bagrupp on January 17, 2021, 10:04:13 PM +0000
I'm sorry, i did not expect anyone to brake for the first kink and so i hit someone.
Fortunately everyone could continue but i already damaged my engine and half a lap later my engine went into smoke.
Drove until Lap7 last corner engine exploded completly. Completed 50% without any Power left....


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 17, 2021, 10:25:31 PM +0000
I am absolutely livid!!!!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 17, 2021, 10:26:56 PM +0000
I am absolutely livid!!!!!
I'll submit an incident report Clive. It was a great race until the last lap.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: EvilClive on January 18, 2021, 10:20:59 AM +0000
Welcome to the new drivers and great to see a big grid. Well done Jonny for getting the Gordini almost onto the podium!!! Grats to all finishers for surviving a tricky circuit for 16 long, hard  laps.

I truly sympathise with Clive Loynes who appeared to have this race comfortably won with around 6 laps to go. Then it appears that it all went wrong very quickly, and very comprehensively  :death: I only witnessed the first part of the tragedy as I passed his Connaught emerging from the undergrowth at T1, as I chased Peter's Maserati in the closing laps.
I don't know what happened once Clive re-joined the race, but I can imagine that he was already spitting nails about whatever had put him out of the lead, To then tumble down the finishing order as he did regardless of the reasons must have been soul destroying. Peter's last lap excursion when he too had the win safely in his pocket must also have been galling.

After a great launch off the grid which snatched me 2nd spot, the early laps were not great for me and I thought that any hopes of a win, or even a podium,
were lost. Further mistakes and very close escapes through the race further reduced any thoughts of tasting champagne and by half distance I was focusing on trying to gain a few places just to score some good points.
Throughout the race I was chasing Peter's distant 250F, but he was always 4-5 secs ahead and his extra speed on the straights kept him ahead. A long battle with Phil and Alain hindered him and just as I was about to get within attack range, he passed them both and sped away!! Fortunately for me, but not so good for Phil and Alain, they both managed to slide off and allow me a free pass in the following laps and I resumed my chase of Peter.
With around 5 laps to go our pace was drawing Clive's leading Connaught closer, but I was convinced that although we might catch the old campaigner, I doubt that we would get the time, or the chance, to pass.
One or two small errors from Peter had allowed me to get within slipstream range and a sniff of 2nd spot, but the Maserati was probably just too strong.
Then Clive suffered his first stroke of misfortune and Peter and I inherited 1st & 2nd with a lap to go.
I was a fraction too eager on the gas out of the Esses and two wheel got tangled in the weeds. I watched Peter pull a 100mtr gap and fully expected Clive's recovering Connaught to be all over my tailpipes, or even sweeping past  :o. Once I got back up to speed along the following straight I re-checked
my mirrors and Prib for Clive, only to discover an empty space.
So, with only half a lap left, 2nd looked like the best I could finish. But, given the number of errors I had made it was probably better than I could have expected. Then drifting through the long right hander I see a red Maserati in the undergrowth!!?? Was that Peter?? I had to resist the temptation to look at Prib until I had got the car settled on the next straight...no Maserati ahead, and Prib confirmed that Peter was now behind me  :o.
With a comfortable lead of 200mtrs I was ultra cautious for the last 60 seconds until I crossed the line.

I suspect that this series is going to swing back and forth between maybe 5 or 6 drivers who each suffer their share of misfortune/mistakes. Only another 9 races to go  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: Alain Maurice on January 18, 2021, 12:43:21 PM +0000
Good morning all

What a race, what a change, incredible and worthy of a noir novel this end of the race for Clive in the lead almost the entire race.


For my part, with the best car on paper, I hoped and had to finish well. Departure 4 I pass quickly 5 then come back 4, 3 and even 2 following each other's mistakes. Behind Clive and 8 laps from the end I must ensure.

1 error or too much inside in a bend I find myself in the vegetation, 2 places lost, good 5 is not too bad but another error and hop 7 before breaking my engine 2 laps from the end.
Sorry for the unlucky ones and Bravo Evil for this great victory which is not due to chance because you are very fast in 55.

See you soon and thank you for the organization


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: JonnyO on January 18, 2021, 08:23:30 PM +0000
  Congrats podium!!!!!!!!

  Yes, I was very happy with my 7th position in the race, this would be my real performance ...... but, the end of the crazy race threw me to 4th in the end, what a beautiful gift !!!!

  Congrats Evil !!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: EvilClive on January 18, 2021, 09:19:50 PM +0000
I  will probably get a place penalty for the tap on Peter's 250F in Lap 1.  :-\, so maybe Peter should be congratulated?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 18, 2021, 10:14:37 PM +0000
I  will probably get a place penalty for the tap on Peter's 250F in Lap 1.  :-\, so maybe Peter should be congratulated?

At least six places if not more I should say!

I saw wheels flying off.  I was really disapointed when I realised that you were both still in the race!   ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: EvilClive on January 19, 2021, 09:46:58 AM +0000
lol Clive, .........

well none of those wheels originated from my Connaught, and if Peter's Maserati was that quick on 3 wheels for the remaining 15 laps we might as well hand him the trophy right now!!

TBH I was a little surprised/disappointed when the contact occurred  :-\. I was quite chuffed to have outdragged you to T1 and steal 2nd spot, but even more pleased to have hooked up in Peter's slipstream through the first corners. No excuses from me, I was simply 2 metres too close and the crash box gremlins decided to react and throw Peter and myself into the sand and the weeds. Apologies to Peter as it made his race very difficult from there on.

Maybe there is a crumb of comfort for you Clive in that I lose a few points, but when the various penalties play out Jonny's decision to run the Gordini might prove to be a masterstroke. Ironically I almost chose that car too, but wimped out at the last minute  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: romanov on January 19, 2021, 10:27:40 AM +0000
Yes, my race after 1 lap incident was gone out of plane.  I understood, that car is ok, and i can still win the race. After 4  or 5 laps i cautch up C. Loynes on the first corner, but, hi is spinned, and i to avoid a collision, spinned too.
It was terrible.  After that i again rolled back to 3-4 position.
Not sure, that car is all right, i tryed to come back to lead group.
On the few last laps, at first has mistake C. Loynes, after him and I go too wide on s2, and lost lead.
i don't won't, that race result is changed after race.  But incident on first lap must learned according to rule  champs.
Sorry for my english.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: romanov on January 19, 2021, 10:28:58 AM +0000
Yes, Petr is no Peter. It is two different names.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: EvilClive on January 19, 2021, 04:09:38 PM +0000
Apologies Petr. :oops: :oops:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 21, 2021, 10:33:25 PM +0000
I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.

As this was the first race, nobody had a token overspend.

Driver        Tokens  Status
Alain Maurice
5
Works
Albert Hallu
10
Works
bagrupp
10
Works
Carlos Cendejas
10
Works
Clive Loynes
15
Works
Doni Yourth
15
Works
Dulima
15
Works
Enrique Farina
20
Works
EvilClive
15
Works
fpolicardi
15
Works
Gaizka López C
10
Works
JonnyO
20
Works
Phil Thornton
15
Works
Raoni Frizzo
15
Works
romanov
8
Works
tagomago
10
Works


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: romanov on January 22, 2021, 10:52:42 AM +0000
i don't understand, i will not use a lancia in  Spa?
Get i token on  start race, or in the end?
What are car available on Spa for me?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: Cookie on January 22, 2021, 12:26:51 PM +0000
You get 10 token before the start  - so you have 18 token ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 23, 2021, 02:00:00 PM +0000
Has anyone got through to Albert yet?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 25, 2021, 06:20:16 PM +0000
Mod report published.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: EvilClive on January 26, 2021, 11:26:58 AM +0000
I fully accept the mod report and penalty.

Just a note about Phil's comments regarding green lights on the dashboard and the % of brakes available on the start line. At the start of this race my dashboard light was RED and I had to nurse the car through the first half of the lap to recover some decent brakes. Rather ironic that just as I get a green light, I failed to slow down enough to avoid the car in front  :-\

So, it might be worth checking your brake light when you are on the start grid, before you discover the problem as you hurtle into T1 with the pack.? I'm not sure if this is a "random" feature of the 55's or simply a graphics glitch. But I certainly felt that I did not have 100% brakes available for T1 lap 1. This is not the first time that I have noticed this issue on the start line.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 26, 2021, 12:04:29 PM +0000
This is not the first time that I have noticed this issue on the start line.


Yes, I've been hit with that one too.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Oakes Field - Works - Jan 17
Post by: fpolicardi on January 26, 2021, 11:17:52 PM +0000
This is not the first time that I have noticed this issue on the start line.


Yes, I've been hit with that one too.
One more at Monsanto