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Title: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 12, 2006, 01:51:40 PM +0000
Practice 1:20:15(10 mins)full time drivers only
Practice 2:20:25(10 mins)reserves may join too
Qual 2:20:35(20 mins)
Race:21:00(40 mins)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any NGT from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.1 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) except the 993 GT2 - see this thread (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2228.0).
Weather: Dry
Track: Brno 2004
Race Start Time 14:00

Server: UKGTR NGT Masters
Password: here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2311)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=35).
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers should remember that they get only two free changes of car in each series.


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Radius on November 13, 2006, 02:51:14 PM +0000
yip im there

ATTN: any NGT from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.1 except the 993 GT2  :P

ATTN Mark: no warmup!  :P

gl all hf!!!!


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: james on November 13, 2006, 03:53:01 PM +0000
I'll be there :)

Haven't decided what car to run yet

porker biturbo/F360GTC :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Don on November 13, 2006, 04:35:38 PM +0000
I just wanted to spam a Master thread, least you all forget me ;D :P


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: baracus250gt on November 13, 2006, 10:47:32 PM +0000
If I could get my wheel and pedals on the plane I would join in... but I dont think it will fit in my hand luggage with my PC ;)

Will have to miss this one as I'm on holiday until the weekend. Have a great race y'all!!! Remember to tie Ruskus up in the garage during Q with the air gun lines - hehehe


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: popabawa on November 14, 2006, 08:13:41 PM +0000
I never used to look forward to driving Brno in GTR but the increased grip in GTR2 has really made it come alive for me.

Here's to another good race tonight. Good luck all.


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Jeffrey on November 14, 2006, 09:28:53 PM +0000
Didn't enjoy any minute of it >:(. What a (%$&*&%^$%&#^) track, unbelievable. I don't care what others say about it, this is the dumbest track ever, only 90 degree corners.

To make matters worst I was a sec slower in qually than my PB, whatever I tried. The race was just as piss, so I decided to ram that snot GTC into the tyres and leave before I would explode of anger of this complete stupidity. Next race I'm gonna take something else than the GTC, even of they take all my point, I don't care.

Don't quote me as I'm just too pissed off right now. >:(


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: jan duijs on November 14, 2006, 09:54:29 PM +0000
Ah more aliens like Ruskus please,maybe i end in the points then one day :P
Nice race was fun.

Jan



Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: popabawa on November 14, 2006, 09:54:56 PM +0000
Despite a pretty good showing in qualifying, the poor ole' Vertigo wasn't quite up to it here, one tiny mistake and those dastardly GT3's were straight past  :D

Had a good first 15 mins, managed to just about keep on the back of Shark for a while then steadily dropped back having good scraps with Greg & BigG for the last 20 mins or so. Good racing chaps  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 14, 2006, 10:00:54 PM +0000
That was another very tough race. Thought I was going to be about 18th on the grid, but at end of qually I whacked the rear wing down to 5 to get some much needed extra speed. Sort of did the trick. Put me up to 14th with a 2:01.3, very lairy but faster. Decided to stick with the same setup for the race, just with mediums instead of softs and more fuel and one more vent on the radiator and sort of pleased and displeased...the corner speed wasn't great with such low wing but it meant I could keep the RSR of TT behind me when he dragged himself up to me about two thirds of the way through. Was not quite enough to keep up with Aagramn's M3 down the straights but in his slipstream I could almost but not quite hold on.

With Pedro disco'ing and Jeff quitting, nicely gave me another 2 places and when Aagramns soft tyres went right off at the end I was able to overtake him and take my 2nd 10th in a row.

Well done to CJ on win and other podiums, especially Jon (cause he's my teamy). I don't know how on earth you managed to get the TVR to drive at that pace. You were something like 2.5 seconds faster than I could go in the TVR, brilliant stuff.

Again, good fun controlling the TVR and with so many real aliens in this division, 10th is another good result.


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: PaulW on November 14, 2006, 10:01:02 PM +0000
Can't practice and develop set-ups like I used to and, boy, is it showing! I'm not sure the prospect of tootling around in the late teens/early twenties is going to keep my boat afloat throughout the season but I'll keep trying and see how we go.

Spent a lonely 35 mins at the back after a tap into the sand a couple of laps in and then finally caught someone and had a great time trying to overtake. At least I ran consistent laps all race. I broadly agree with Ruskus though (rant aside ;)) the track is horrible and the designer should be hung from a gallows constructed out of all the 90 degree set squares he must have used to come up with boring corner after boring corner  :death:


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Aagramn on November 14, 2006, 10:02:18 PM +0000
Congrats to the podium.

Gambled on soft tyres, but it backfired on me in the end. Was OK until about 5 minutes to go, running a pretty good 10th, then I started losing buckets of time. Lost places to Shark & TT, then another in a photo finish to BigG on the line. Got a "tyres worn" message with about 4 corners left to go, never had that before.


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Mark J on November 14, 2006, 10:03:00 PM +0000
Didnt enjoy that at all, car was a complete pile of understeering cack  >:(

I just dont understand whats going on, used the same setup last night that i spent bloody ages getting right and was setting regular 2:02's with full race fuel on the online server with the +50 ggrrr kg and yet tonight it just felt total rubbish.  ??? I had chronic understeer all race.

The only saving grace was i had some great battles with Mc M, Trede? etc. for lap after lap

To cap off my crap night i rear ended Locotus with about 2 laps to go, pulled over on last lap to let him back past and lost two more places as he was being followed closely by Paul who i hadnt seen ::)

No fun at all when you spend the whole 40 minutes just trying to wrestle the car around the turns rather than having fun racing. :'(


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Matjaz Plotajs on November 14, 2006, 10:05:19 PM +0000
Not a very good result for me (9th) but I gave it all I had with that TVR. I felt a bit like a sitting duck on the straights but through the corners it was up there with the rest. Of course that was not enough and I was overtaken twice by a Porsche. I could have block but didn't want to spoil a great race. From then on it was all keeping up with the guys in front and I somehow managed to do that and what a reward I got for that... watching some very nice "fighting" between Radius and Leuven. I sort of hoped they will ram eachother of the track but at the same time I was happy that they fought fair and square till the end. It was so nice to see both Porsche's sliding in the last laps as the tyres were begining to go away but I couldn't take advantage of that as my front grip was gone as well so in the end we all finished very close together and I can say that was a fantastic race for me to drive despite my 9th position.


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: JonM_uk on November 14, 2006, 10:05:59 PM +0000
Great race ;D Didn't overtake anyone and didn't get overtaken but still enjoyed every minute of it. It was very exciting being chased by Martin(thanks for your gentlemanly driving). I thought he had me on a couple of occasions and was expecting him to go past as I'd left some extra room on one of them. I think it must've been hard to try and pass the TVR 'cus I was sliding everywhere and was a little unpredictable at times. I had the tyres worn warning with about 4-5 laps to go and was lucky enough for the time to run out. One more lap and I would've been had. Very close finish with Martin and Paul and needless to say that I'm very happy to have got 2nd, no doubt the best I could've done. Grats to CJ on his Victory 8) Great driving as usual :)


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Radius on November 14, 2006, 10:12:04 PM +0000
That was hard racing but cant honestly say it was much fun (JUST MY OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Was tough keeping the pace but frustration crept in and i made 2 or 3 silly mistakes that sent me all the way back to 8th.

Nothing more to say except sry to Minton when i was inside of him and the slightest of touches sent him flying into the barrier as if i rammed him at 300kph! Really dont know why except the collision physics are screwed...sry again.

well seeya next race..and grats to great job podium guys


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: picnic on November 14, 2006, 10:22:19 PM +0000
Replay (http://www.ukgtr.org/replay/Brno%20-%20NGT%20Masters%20061114.zip) is available.

Trying to confirm the identity of Mark Mc so I can import the results correctly, any hints gratefully received in case I'm barking up the wrong tree  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: BigG on November 14, 2006, 10:28:59 PM +0000
Well, Qually'ed 19th!!!!! Was not expecting to much from the race, but having fun at the back. 1st lap was ok and stayed with Locutos. Locutos overtook Jan and that aloud me a run into the 2nd corner on Jan. did the move fine (BUT DOWNSHIFTED to 1st.....DOH, I hereby report myself for being an idiot). Rear locked up and I span infront of 6 cars I think. SORRY chaps. Greg130 kindly hit me and straightened me up so got going with not to much loss, except now I was last.

So now I was angry at myself. Then the race just seemed to come to me, 1st got Mark Mc, then Jonzo and Enzo. Had a huge gap then to Jan, but kept at it and after many laps I cought him. He then got Locutos and that also got me past him. Eventully got Jan for P15 and now started to catch Popa in his Vertigo. That car is quick through the corners, but **** in a straight line. Whilst I was chase Popa he was catching Greg130. Then I had a good run out of the 3rd to last corner and was past, next Greg. We pulled away from Popa and started to catch Aagramn, TT and Simon. With 3 laps to go I got greg130 into the 1st corner, thanks for the space Greg and really went for it in the last 2 laps. Last lap I think Aagramn was some 4 secs infront but with bad tires. So it all came down to the last corner. Excellent line out of that and down the inside to take Aagramn by 2 hundred's sec to take 10th.

So in the end I had a good one, coming from Last to 10th(Edit: 12th actually) and some great battles and clean racing with lots of good guys.

Cheers lads, well done to the top 3.

p.s. sorry again for the extra downshift to 1st on the 2nd lap that screwed a few up.


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Truetom on November 14, 2006, 10:49:39 PM +0000
Qualified 16th I think - can't remember such a high number.  :-X
Followed Popabawa and thinking "How the  :blink:  am I gonna overtake my team leader?! There goes my box of Cinzano!" But he made it easy on me and spun after a double downshift - too bad Popa. Followed Shark but then Locutos closed on me like I was standing still. Had troubles keeping him back for some laps but then he got by. When I followed him uphill he made a bad corner entry which got me alongside him on the exit with a higher speed. We touched by 3 mm and the bad luck was it was his right rear and he spun.  :(

Was slowly closing on Shark then and for the last 15 minutes we were close. Better on corner entry, worse on the exit, similar on the straight - that's the story.  :(  I had 6 wing, Shark, so I think the exit speed and lower weight made the trick. Good racing anyways.  :yes:  When we closed on Aagramn I was seeing it as a chance but you made it past at the right place with no room left for me. BMW is fast on the straight and my only chance was to be inside for braking. Just made it, thanks to Aagramns fair driving - he could have closed the door but didn't. :thumbup1:  That got Shark a 2 sec lead - too much to get close in the last 2 laps.  :(  Besides, my tyres were out, just dragged my a$$ to the s/f line to be 11th. Quite ok, considering all the  :1eye: :alien: :1eye:  in tonights race.

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: CeeJay on November 14, 2006, 10:50:28 PM +0000
Got a very tight pole, was amazed to see that TVR could go that fast :o

When race got underway I noticed that TVR was pretty fast in the first sector but last two it looked like the GTC had a little edge so was able to slowly build up a gap.
Had no idea how the car would do over 20 laps plus the lack of motec info.
But the medium tires all around combined with less rearwing ,6 or 7 cant recall, it actually did pretty good and never got into heavy understeer this car usually induces so think the tirewear was probably pretty even on both ends.

Looked like good close racing all through the field :thumbup2:



Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: stnasky on November 15, 2006, 01:01:59 AM +0000
Replay (http://www.ukgtr.org/replay/Brno%20-%20NGT%20Masters%20061114.zip) is available.

Trying to confirm the identity of Mark Mc so I can import the results correctly, any hints gratefully received in case I'm barking up the wrong tree  ::)

That would be me picnic,  I was Mark@GP last season.  Well i started race dead last :P  and pretty much stayed there thru out the race :o.  Thank god for Mark J and Enzo T.


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: picnic on November 15, 2006, 08:32:52 AM +0000
That would be me.

Thanks :)

Provisional Results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=245) also available


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Pedro[PL] on November 15, 2006, 09:17:03 AM +0000
I qualified 6th well below my PB (even 1s below my Practice 2 time...) but the trouble was just beginning for me. My fiancee was supposed to take care of our 9 month daughter during the race, but for some reason she didn't leaving me with my girl little screaming in her bed. For a minute I hoped she would hear the kid but unfortunately she was too busy talking to my mother in the other part of house (which I found our later). So I had to disconnect on the first speed lap - pissed like hell, as my race was good and considering Brno is a lovely track (hi Ruskus :D) would possibly yield me some points. Unfortunately - still no luck in NGT masters.

Looking forward GT sprint next week. I'll just have to cuff my fiancee to the kid's bed for the race long :D

Grats to all the drivers who finished, with special attention to the 3 lucky ones on the box :D Sorry 28CD team for my terrible performance.


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Paul968 on November 15, 2006, 09:36:55 AM +0000
After getting 3rd in qual (not much chance of any better) I realised very quickly after starting the race that I'd not saved the changes to my race setup, which meant the car wanted to understeer on the exit of all the corners. Then I made things worse by holding on to 3rd into the bottom chicane on lap 1 and then changing down 2 gears - the car slewed sideways and 2 places went down the drain. 'Bother' I said to myself (or words to that effect). Then had quite a few laps chasing Radius, who gradually got more and more ragged, although the understeer in my setup made it hard to exploit. In the end he took too much curb at T1 and I was past, but by this time Martin was 5 seconds up the road. The next 5 laps or so I was able to peg the gap and gain a big cushion to the car behind, but just as I was praying for Martin's tyres to give up the gap started to come down. My med/med setup with built in understeer now worked for me as I could still do 2.01s, and there was a small chance I could get the place back. I finally got right behind on the last lap, with Jon just ahead too, and out of the last corner got a good run, but the line came too soon. Great racing from everyone again and congrats to CJ for an emphatic win.


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Minton on November 15, 2006, 10:17:35 AM +0000
Was a good race untill i made a stupid mistake and turned in too early as Radius was overtaking me.. Totally my fault mate you were already through , your right though i did bounce off you as if you had t-boned me at a 150 mph, went back to pits for repairs and came out last then lost it and hit the barrier and lost my front splitter so called it a night.
Great pace by the podium finishers.. Grats!


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Aagramn on November 15, 2006, 10:26:26 AM +0000
Provisional Results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=245) also available

Thanks Picnic.

Had a decent race, shame I got my tyre choice wrong which probably cost me a place or two. Driving standards were very high again. The 3 cars ahead of me were having a good scrap in the first half of the race, which was good to watch and helped me stay in touch with them as they cost each other a bit of time. Think Brno was more enjoyable to drive in GTR1, it feels a bit tame and less involving with the more forgiving tyres.

Good mix of cars on the grid, looks like nothing is dominating. Was suprised I had the only M3, do you lot know somethign I don't?  ;) Special mention to Popa for setting soem good times in the underpowered Vertigo.


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Adam Parle on November 15, 2006, 10:44:40 AM +0000
Was suprised I had the only M3, do you lot know somethign I don't?  ;)

Yep, i felt a bit like that in the Academy.


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: popabawa on November 15, 2006, 12:08:36 PM +0000
Special mention to Popa for setting some good times in the underpowered Vertigo.

Thanks Aagramn! I don't think I could have wrung much more out of it in the end. I knew I'd struggle a bit at Brno (and probably will at Spa next week too) and considered changing cars for a couple of weeks but decided against it in the end as the sprints are proving a decent warm-up for the Endurance races. I'm really loving that bit of the scheduling Dave!

[EDIT] Sorry Aagramn, I never get your name right  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 15, 2006, 01:18:40 PM +0000
as the sprints are proving a decent warm-up for the Endurance races. I'm really loving that bit of the scheduling Dave!

Thanks; that's exactly why I did it, I just hope I learned enough this race to have a proper bash at defending my improbable early championship lead in Endurance.

Unfortunately after Grotmas it flips round again with Endurance leading the Sprints.


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Adam Parle on November 15, 2006, 01:26:07 PM +0000
I just hope I learned enough this race to have a proper bash at defending my improbable early championship lead in Endurance.

We'll see.  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Radius on November 15, 2006, 07:10:01 PM +0000
Was a good race untill i made a stupid mistake and turned in too early as Radius was overtaking me.. Totally my fault mate you were already through , your right though i did bounce off you as if you had t-boned me at a 150 mph, went back to pits for repairs and came out last then lost it and hit the barrier and lost my front splitter so called it a night.
Great pace by the podium finishers.. Grats!

ahhhh sweet, i feel much better now tx


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: BigG on December 27, 2006, 08:38:06 PM +0000
I have not seen a Mods report for this race.

Does that mean there is nothing to report?


Title: Re: UKGTR NGT Sprint Masters - Brno - Nov 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 27, 2006, 08:41:20 PM +0000
Some of the championships are a little behind in finishing the moderation reports. Hopefully we will get them all out before the second half of the season begins.