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Title: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 17, 2006, 02:57:10 PM +0000
Practice 1:20:00(15 mins)full time drivers only
Practice 2:20:15(15 mins)reserves may join too
Qual 2:20:30(25 mins)
Race:20:55(80 mins)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT or NGT from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.1 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) (see this thread (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2228.0)) except the Porsche 993 GT2.
Weather: to be decided just before the race based on real-world weather according to the Endurance rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=42).
Track: Brno 2004
Race Start Time 14:00
Pit Stops: All drivers must make a minimum of one pit stop. This must involve entering the pit lane at the speed limit, and coming to a complete standstill in the designated pit box. Tyres do not have to be changed and no fuel has to be added. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Endurance Masters
Password: here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2324)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=33).
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers should remember that they get only two free changes of car in each series.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Jimmie on November 18, 2006, 11:19:15 PM +0000
As I was missing out last endurance race due a broken pc, I will for this one as well :'(

It took the :censored: computershop a week to find out that the video card is death as what I expected it would be...
Got the machine now over here, but no video card yet. They wouldn't want to give me warrantee for an odd reason, but now I just have to wait till my new video card arrives.

Anyway one of the reserves is certain of a place.

I wanna race..... soooo badly.... :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Radius on November 19, 2006, 07:50:06 PM +0000
Thats so unlucky m8...hope u get it sorted soon.

As for tonight im looking forward to drive my saleen into a rear tire burnring rubbery death :)

gl 2 all


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Paul Richards on November 19, 2006, 09:30:44 PM +0000
Qualified 6th just ahead of my team mate Greg. Think one of us had warp issues right from the start on the warm up lap as we had some door to door rubbing and a knock from behind which pushed me into Radius and I tapped him. Sorry for that! In the end one of us must have warped and Greg drove through me and into the barrier I went. Lost a wheel then tried to make it make to the pits but crashed again and knocked off the other front!

Greg had to retire as well. Oh well thats the first issue I have had with warping so not to worry! Hope you all had a good race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Luis Branco on November 19, 2006, 09:33:10 PM +0000
Another "lost connection" when was pushing really hard on Ruskus to take 2nd :-[

It seems this time I'm running out of luck with GTR2 in here :-[


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Nick Phillips on November 19, 2006, 09:37:30 PM +0000
Fed up of ruining my Sundays pretending to like GTR2, and so dropping out of the Endurance series.

Overblown testing sessions ain't my scene and can't put in the time to improve so someone else can take my place.



Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: greg130 on November 19, 2006, 10:15:46 PM +0000
Big appologies to those caught up in my warping on the warm up lap.
It was really weird, I could see everyone just fine, all looked ok then cars started to crash in front of me, suddenly it dawned on me that it was probably warp and me crashing into them !  Obviously I pressed esc as soon as I realised what was happening.

Once again sorry guys, really mortified.  Might be best if I give srou a miss for a while as my connection seems really bad at the moment.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: JonM_uk on November 19, 2006, 10:33:51 PM +0000
Good all round for me. Pole and then a win. I saw it looked like hotter than normal conditions before the race so put a bit more rear wing on to hopefully stop the back sliding around as much. It seemed to work as my Soft/Med combo lasted the 40min stint easy and prolly could've lasted another 10-15mins. A lapse in concentration on my in lap nearly cost  me as I went into a sand trap but It only lost me 3-4 secs and no damage was done so I went on my merry way :) 2nd stint was just a matter of looking after the car. Thanks again to the people being lapped you were great as always :thumbup2:
Grats to Matjaz and nice job to Martin for a good result in his Viper 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: popabawa on November 19, 2006, 10:34:10 PM +0000
Sorry to hear there were so many problems for you guys - bummer :(

I think that was just about my best race ever, Verti-GO-GO-GO!  ;D

I was a tad slower than the sprint race in qualifying but it didn't make much difference as I was so far behind TT, Shark, Matjaz & Leuven, awesome pace guys :D

Had the best 40 mins I've ever had SimRacing with Bernie, PRibiero and Mark Jonzo as I desperately tried to hold them off as they picked me off one-by-one. I just about managed to hang onto the back of that group as everyone pitted and I was pretty sure I'd make the time up in the pits. Sure enough, whan I came out after the pitstop I was 4s or so behind Leuven who unluckily went off to give me an awesome 4th place, I'm well chuffed with that  :thumbup2:

An excellent 3rd for TT means very decent team points too... but I beat Jonzo, and that's the main thing  ;)

Great lapping by the GT's with a special mention to Radius who seemed to go past me at least 20 times!



Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Madd-RIP on November 19, 2006, 10:35:23 PM +0000
I did notice you were warping a bit Greg, so I kept my distance! saw a few warping cars tonight, I wonder if Simbins wonderful netcode is the culprit?? ::)
A particularly heinous race for me, off the pace (not really a surprise) had a bump, bit of understeer after that, kept annoying Shark, TT and many others by repeatedly re-lapping them..going off..re-lapping them.. talk about Deja vu. :blink: mind you the battles they were having looked fab  ;D
Driving like a 3 legged donkey atm, getting a bit sick of it. :ban:
Grats to podium btw. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Jeffrey on November 19, 2006, 10:37:04 PM +0000
I qualified 2nd which was better than I hoped for.

I started the race with soft/meds and 100L of fuel. The fronts were gone after 25 minutes, so I saw Luis gaining fast, with Martin right behind. I decided to pit a bit early, with 45 minutes to go. At that point I still had 35L of fuel. So in 35 minutes, I burned 65L. So that means:
Minutes raced: 35     Fuel used: 65
Minutes raced: 45    Fuel used: (45*65)/35= 83,5L.

So I thought, with the warmup lap, and 4L per lap, I'll have plenty enought with 90L of fuel. After my outlap there was only 40 minutes to go, so I thought I was well safe as I still had 87L. I also took meds allround to keep the car alive, and it did feel much better, temps were almost perfect.

With only a quarter to go I saw that fuel was getting tight, so I started shortshifting and trying to drive in economystyle. But that helped just about...nothing. So I had to do a pitstop for the last lap, as I didn't know if Jon would have to do another lap after that, as the time was still not over.
I have no idea why the fuelcalc is always so far off. I was pretty generous by thinking 4L per lap, but for some reason the Lambo decides to use 5L per lap ???

Martin and I had some great moments, going side by side to T1, and further in teh race again going side by side through a few corners.

And please don't use headlights while racing. It's bloody annoying to see my dashboard light up and flash everytime you get close with headlights on. Only use headlights when necessary as described in the rules.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Mark J on November 19, 2006, 10:38:00 PM +0000
Phew, what a tough endurance race that was, but superb action for most of the entire race.  8)

Had an excellent 4 car battle with Bernie, Pribeiro and Pops for about 45 minutes with us all glued to the back of each other and swapping place :fencing: Great fun and great clean racing by all. I was all over people in the midfield but kept getting dropped by all on the straights as i was running too high a rear wing.
Was actually gutted when first Bernie, then Pribeiro a lot of laps later pulled into the pits for their stops as it meant the on track battle ended  :'(
Continued on for another handful of laps trying to keep the pesky Pops behind me in his swift little Vertigo (great driving Pops! 8) ) but my tyres were seriously shagged and i couldnt wait to pit for new boots as i was losing at least a second a lap. :(
Stop took 52 secs in the box, and came out about 8 seconds behind Bernie and about 5 secs in front of Pribeiro so knew there was more action to come and i had to keep pushing.
I soon closed the gap right down on Bernie and we enjoyed another great battle for several laps with me literally glued to his rear bumper but i just didnt have the legs down the straights to draft past.
Unfortunately after yet another fight through turn 1 i caught Bernies rear quarter and it was just enough to send him wide onto the gravel, really sorry mate, it was totally un-intentional as i was really enjoying the scrap  :-[
I then had to push hard to the line as Pribeiro had closed down on me again from the contact but i managed to pull out another 4-5 second gap and then couldnt believe my eyes when i saw Leuven stranded in the final turns  :o with only a few laps to go. Bad luck mate  :(
Brought the car home in 5th NGT which wasnt bad  :-\

Congrats to my teamies for some great driving and top work to Mathas and Jon M for their superb wins.  :punk:


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: pribeiro on November 19, 2006, 10:38:57 PM +0000
Congratulations to winner´s GT and NGT classes ;)
Nice driving all, lots of fairplay as usual :thumbup2:
Thanks GT drivers for your behavior when overtake NGT boys :yes:
2 very destinguish half parts.
1st half was astonishingly hard, intense, fun and fair battle with Mark, Bernie
and Popabawa, what a race guys, tank you  :jumpjoy:
2nd half was soft, chill, alone and fair(lol) :sleep1: with...........................my self ::)
Couldnt get a decent setup for BMW :-[, after +- 25 mnt. huge understeer :-\
Was a great race tho ;D

See you soon, cheers


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 19, 2006, 10:43:47 PM +0000
Picked up a suprising 2nd in class, well done Matjaz on the win (too quick as usual :P) and Jon on the GT win, awesome pace teamie.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: picnic on November 19, 2006, 10:51:27 PM +0000
Replay (http://www.ukgtr.org/replay/Brno%20-%20Endurance%20Masters%20061119.zip) and Provisional Results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=241) are available


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Bernie Lomax on November 19, 2006, 10:55:20 PM +0000
As the other guys have said great battle between Jonzo, Popobawa and Pribero early doors.
Tyres on the Bi-turbo didn't last very long to say the least!


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Radius on November 19, 2006, 11:11:11 PM +0000
Was a pleasure racing u guys...saleen didnt like softs so had to go with meds all round...lost allot of time in pits was a bit confused with the fuel calculation it showed me. Eventually it added 8 laps extra taht i ddint need  >:(

grats to all finishers and thanks to NGT guys doing there utmost to be polite while battling each other hard...was good to watch  ;)

enduro is such a blast


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Matjaz Plotajs on November 19, 2006, 11:20:34 PM +0000
My First race with F360 GTC. I must say I like the car although it sounds scary when it goes over 9000 RPM  :o. In the first stint I had to push to stay in front of Leuven who was following closely behind. In the last couple of laps before pitting I managed to open a gap of about 6 seconds so there I went to the pits for the first time in GTR2. Of course I forgot to turn off my engine and lost about 6 seconds there and I also realized it would have been better to start with full tank of fuel and only change tyres. I was sure Leuven will profit on this 2 mistakes from me but I just couldn't tell wheather he managed to overtake me or not so I assumed he was in front of me as I was 20 seconds behind someone. I was pushing 110% to close the gap and than I saw this guy in front is to quick to be the NGT car. So when I finally realized I'm the leader of my class I then try to focus on my fuel consumption. F360GTC is a rather funny car with no Motec information so I had no idea how much time is left. 1 lap before finish I got a call from the pits to go in next time and refuel but at the same time I had no idea wheather this is the last lap in the race or not. So comming out of the last corner and having only 1 liter of fuel I decided to go over the line and luckily the race was over otherwise I would have run out of fuel. That would have been disaster as I had a huge lead and could easily afford pitting.

Nice racing from all guys and also I had no problem with warping only one time when suddenly there was a GT car behind me trying to lap me. I always check my mirrors to see if someone is approaching and this time it was all quiet and the next second I had 2 GT cars in my rear mirror so I guess that was a small warp or something.  ???


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Martin Steinmetz on November 19, 2006, 11:23:54 PM +0000
Mixed bag for me, obviously I'm happy with the result, i think 2nd place was the best one could achieve in the Viper, but i was never able to do the times i was pulling in practice although it was a good bit hotter in qualy and race. Decided to go for meds/hards which might have been a bit too conservative and screwed the balance of the car in the later parts of each stint, but i didn't dare to go for meds/meds in the 2nd stint. :-/

Still an enjoyable race, a nice little fight with Ruskus and a 2nd place, pity two of my teammates didn't even finish the pacelap.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: JonM_uk on November 20, 2006, 05:04:46 AM +0000

Nice racing from all guys and also I had no problem with warping only one time when suddenly there was a GT car behind me trying to lap me. I always check my mirrors to see if someone is approaching and this time it was all quiet and the next second I had 2 GT cars in my rear mirror so I guess that was a small warp or something.  ???

I think that was me Matjaz. At first there was a frozen ghost of your car on the track, then you were up ahead by about 4secs(not totally sure this was you but I'll check replay later) and all of a sudden you appeared right in front of me. Dunno if it was you or me that had the warp/lag though. Didn't see any changes in the gap to the next car timer but It looks like  a few ppl had little probs so :-\ Prolly best to check the replay and see what was happening to others at same point.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Jeffrey on November 20, 2006, 12:46:04 PM +0000


Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Brno 19-11-2006 MA/g_info.htm)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: popabawa on November 20, 2006, 01:50:05 PM +0000
Thanks Ruskus :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Jeffrey on November 20, 2006, 02:11:23 PM +0000
Thanks Ruskus :)

No prob. I'm working on a video now and you are starring in it for the Masters part ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: popabawa on November 20, 2006, 02:24:17 PM +0000
Great! I love to watch myself get overtaken! :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Jeffrey on November 20, 2006, 06:00:09 PM +0000
VIDEO

Here is a 7,5 minute video from the race. Both Masters and Academy are in it. This way you get to have a peak at what happened in the other server ;D

It's 60mb.

Filefront (http://files.filefront.com//;6216335;;/)

Google Video (http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=8299542222321682747&hl=nl)         

P.S The video keeps running for black after the footage for 10s, I forgot to remove that :-\. You can just close it, there won't be any bloopers at the end ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: LEUVEN on November 20, 2006, 07:10:37 PM +0000
After the sprint race on tuesday I tweaked my setup and it felt pretty good and I was able to just about keep in touch with Matjaz, for <20mins or so but then the tyres just seemed to gradually lose a lot of grip and I had to fight the car, so I decided to try and hold on best I could and then pit a lap early.
Forgetting to tell my team to get off their backsides and bring out the tyres a lap early, I ended up losing quite a bit of time aswell as any chance I might have had of keeping in touch with even a podium, nevermind Matjaz. ::)
Tried to look after the tyres a bit but it seemed to make the fronts worse so I decided to push but to no avail as the grip declined and I ended up with a pungture and a barrier for a front splitter/bumper. >:(
I did have a couple of occasions when Matjaz was stationary half way round a corner but was luckily not when I was close enough for it to have any effect.
congrats to winners, podiums and the rest as it was well deserved, especially in a viper too Martin  :o

Also, sorry Mad Ripp. I will take myself outside for a public flogging. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: JonM_uk on November 20, 2006, 08:29:44 PM +0000
Nice vid Ruskus. Some nice footage 8) Nice music also 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Martin Steinmetz on November 20, 2006, 09:14:26 PM +0000
yeah....very nice, that NGT-battle looked awesome :-)

next time I'll wait for the Google video link, took more than an hour to get it off filefront :-/


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Radius on November 20, 2006, 09:14:57 PM +0000
arghhhh i hate filefront  >:(

troublesome d/l but seems to be going slowly now.......:dots: :whistling: :wheelchair: :hang:


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Jeffrey on November 20, 2006, 10:58:53 PM +0000
Oh sorry. I chose Filefront as it doesn't have a stupid counter. I normally have good speeds there (300kb/s). Next time I'll use megaupload again, or do you suggest a better one? I know some have problems with Rapidshare.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: pribeiro on November 20, 2006, 11:20:40 PM +0000
Thanks for your time doing all those videos Ruskus (you Hollywood producer) ;D
Now the Hollywood guys will try to call me for sure :P,  ::) :-*


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Radius on November 20, 2006, 11:35:37 PM +0000
Oh sorry. I chose Filefront as it doesn't have a stupid counter. I normally have good speeds there (300kb/s). Next time I'll use megaupload again, or do you suggest a better one? I know some have problems with Rapidshare.

megaupload is fine...always reliable...np waiting just 40 mins and i get 400+ speed....rapidshare is a no no and filefront only gave me 150kps

nice battle NGT master guys...even when i came to lap them they still politely obeyed!!  ;) :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: popabawa on November 21, 2006, 08:07:55 AM +0000
Great work on the vid Ruskus, that captured the excitement of our battle really well :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Mark J on November 21, 2006, 10:56:18 AM +0000
Quote
nice battle NGT master guys...even when i came to lap them they still politely obeyed!!  ;) :thumbup2:

heh, sometimes its not politeness, its because we want to get rid of you GT guys as quickly and safely as possible as the GT's have a habit of spoiling or breaking up our close fought duels.  ;)  No offence  :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: CeeJay on November 21, 2006, 11:18:11 AM +0000
Great video Jeffrey, too bad I couldn't be there this time looked like interesting race


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Jimmie on November 21, 2006, 11:31:08 AM +0000
VIDEO

Here is a 7,5 minute video from the race. Both Masters and Academy are in it. This way you get to have a peak at what happened in the other server ;D

It's 60mb.


Nice video again! Can't see how you can make 'm so fast ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Mark J on November 21, 2006, 02:03:06 PM +0000
Excellent video Ruskus, really enjoyed watching that. You even caught my great (if i say so myself) drafting move on Pribeiros M3 down the s/f straight, where he went very off line to try and shake me off but i followed him over 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: pribeiro on November 21, 2006, 06:21:35 PM +0000
My dowmload time duration was +-15 mnt ???, so, it was great :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: LEUVEN on November 21, 2006, 07:00:58 PM +0000
Nice video, glad to dee IQ and video quality wasn't sacrificed as it makes the viewing even better. 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Matjaz Plotajs on November 21, 2006, 08:29:28 PM +0000
Superb video Ruskus, I've really enjoyed watching it !

I did have a couple of occasions when Matjaz was stationary half way round a corner but was luckily not when I was close enough for it to have any effect.

I'm sorry for that LEUVEN, I had no idea there was a problem with my warping car. I hope it won't happen again. Were my pings all right?



Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Brno - Nov 19
Post by: Jeffrey on November 21, 2006, 09:47:23 PM +0000
Thanks for the comments guys. Thanks for providing footage  ;D