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Title: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: SRW on January 30, 2021, 10:15:45 PM +0000
Practise: 19:45 (45 mins)
Qual: 20:30 (15 mins)
Races: 20:45  20mins X2 (reverse grid for second race)

Cars allowed: RSR F3 DALLARA F317

https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/rsr-formula-3.8040/updates

Track:Barcelona GP

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: normal
Pit-stops: None required
Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Notes:
(1)PLP App - Not used in this event. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.
(2)Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules especially the
rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) Please exercise caution when pitting as some tracks have a speed limit.
(4) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface)
Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this.



Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: spanner on January 30, 2021, 10:52:28 PM +0000
Download thier skin packs as well?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: SRW on January 31, 2021, 10:22:48 AM +0000
Download thier skin packs as well?

I dont think it is necessary to have the skinpack to get on the server, but i have downloaded it


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: SRW on January 31, 2021, 10:23:51 AM +0000
Practice server is up for next weeks race!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: spanner on January 31, 2021, 12:42:49 PM +0000
It was more to ensure we all have the same install and if people pick particular skins then we can all see them.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Geoffers on January 31, 2021, 02:49:34 PM +0000
So is there more we need to download other than the cars in the first post?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: SRW on January 31, 2021, 08:01:55 PM +0000
So is there more we need to download other than the cars in the first post?

just checked, the skins are included in the download


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: spanner on February 01, 2021, 12:58:42 PM +0000
Literally the first thing on their overview page of that mod says to download the skinpack, that's what's confusing.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: SRW on February 06, 2021, 09:56:39 PM +0000
Dont forget, its the first round of the new F3 series tomorrow night!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on February 06, 2021, 10:36:10 PM +0000
I enter the server just few minutes ago, all looking OK, so i really hope to make my debut tomorrow.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: SRW on February 07, 2021, 12:35:45 AM +0000
I enter the server just few minutes ago, all looking OK, so i really hope to make my debut tomorrow.

always good to see new faces on the grid, although it looks like you already race in other SROU series!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 07, 2021, 01:49:51 AM +0000
Good Luck Dimitar  ;)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on February 07, 2021, 05:16:21 PM +0000
Yes, i race mainly at UKGTL with Tony and the fellas. Now i want to take part in more SROU events. :)

Thanks Tony, it's going to be tricky at Barcelona with these kerbs.

PS: One quick question - is the first lap going to be like formation lap or we will start racing after the lights out?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: spanner on February 07, 2021, 05:49:12 PM +0000
The first post says its a standing start


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on February 07, 2021, 10:08:07 PM +0000
Thanks for having me guys. It were two great events and i was so lucky to avoid big mistakes. I will report more tomorrow. :)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Jos Ogos on February 08, 2021, 11:53:33 AM +0000
Great pace at Barcelona yesterday with the Dallara F3. I felt very comfortable with the car during the whole session and didn't seem to have the struggles that others were having with the car.  Thus, building up confidence and pace. With a mid 37s in qualy I went on pole and to win the first race.
The reversed grid for starting the 2nd race (https://youtu.be/dkIKmOH22ag (https://youtu.be/dkIKmOH22ag)) pushed me back to P8 which promised to make this race far more interesting and challenging. I had a good start but by T1 we were too close to risk contact so lifted and waited for a better opportunity later in the race. I saw everyone struggling with grip and being snapped by the Dallara, perhaps due to rather aggressive driving? I seemed to be yesterday naturally coupled with the machine as everything was flowing nicely.
Mark was opening a gap upfront and I started to push harder from L2. And after another moment on T5 for Mark, I took the lead till the end.

It was a bit awkward to have that great feeling with the car and pace. I wished it was always like that in simracing... The Porsche Cayman GT4 is at the other end of the spectrum for me and keeping things real about how difficult this can be sometimes.
I look forward to the next race at Thruxton where, most likely, things will get back to normality.
Congrats to the podium and see you in the next race.
Jos Ogos


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on February 08, 2021, 12:18:12 PM +0000
Great pace from Jos indeed.

Finally i entered my first Assetto Corsa online events. At the qualifying everything was OK, as i made 3 in a row great laps, beating my PB twice and unfortunately my fuel run out at the final corner of the third hot lap.

But unfortunately this was enough only for P3. The start of Race 1 was OK and i won 1 position away from Geoff Eacott. But a semi-mistake later gave him the opportunity to take back the position.

I was lucky because the two drivers around me made a mistakes, and i was now comfortably in P2, but Jos was far away now.

Race two was even more interesting with the reverse grid. The start was not so good as i almost collided with one of the drivers at the start. Little by little i was able to take positions but this was because the drivers ahead of me were making mistakes.

It was so tough to overtake, because the grip behind cars was limited. At the end i was now in P3 chasing Stefan but he was driving great and without any mistakes, so it was P3 for me in Race 2.

Congrats to Jos for the great two wins and performance.

Race replay with camera and commentary: https://youtu.be/iTL3drrxZPo


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Geoffers on February 08, 2021, 01:04:50 PM +0000
Really enjoyed these cars, lots of grip & very fast in the corners. Only trouble was the car not liking the kerbs very much making it very easy to make a mistake.

Pleased with my qualifying pace, much faster than I had been in testing, Jos though was that much faster again. First race started well but lost a place to Dimitar early on lap 1, regained it however a lap or so later when he made a small mistake. Was then my turn to make a mistake & another & another, in the end fortunate to finish 3rd when others all fell off.

Second race again started well & got up to 2nd in the early laps. Jos outbrake me into La Caixa but managed to stay with him for a couple of laps before the mistakes again crept in. Lost count of how many times I spun it, suffice to say I came home 5th & last finisher.

Congrats to Jos on two excellent wins & to Dimitar & Stefan on the podiums. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Already tried a few laps at Thruxton and it is a much easier track to drive. In fact apart from the chicane & the Campbell/Cobb/Seagrave complex it is flat out all the way around.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on February 08, 2021, 01:15:58 PM +0000
Boy, now after seeing the results i notice that Geoff Eacott was actually Geoffers and Martin Row was Matt from GT Legends :D


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: SRW on February 08, 2021, 01:35:44 PM +0000
Good to see a decent turn out and enthusiasm for the new F3 series. I was able to keep up with others and have some close racing. Unfortunately the button to go to the grid for the second race was greyed out for me (initially I thought I had lost internet connection but I could hear all the other cars roar away from the start line when the lights went out). I disconnected from the server and it let me back in, so I joined the race a few laps down and got some practice in (and some points for finishing down the order!)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Bob on February 08, 2021, 02:03:19 PM +0000
 :( As soon as red start lights came on was given a drive through and dumped to desktop, not the first time this has happened on a Sunday but after a clean install of AC thought things would be OK.  Will glean the forums for solution and try again next week.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 08, 2021, 04:28:05 PM +0000
Steven, I may of missed it but, I don't see a link to the Championship table?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Geoffers on February 08, 2021, 04:44:14 PM +0000
Steven, I may of missed it but, I don't see a link to the Championship table?

Ahem!!!!!

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1422&theme=4


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 08, 2021, 05:16:14 PM +0000
Not found in the OP I mean  :P


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Geoffers on February 08, 2021, 05:37:33 PM +0000
Not found in the OP I mean  :P

Oops sorry.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: SRW on February 08, 2021, 09:58:08 PM +0000
Not found in the OP I mean  :P

can you clarify what 'OP' stands for?


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 08, 2021, 09:58:47 PM +0000
Not found in the OP I mean  :P

can you clarify what 'OP' stands for?
Sorry, Original Post


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Jos Ogos on February 09, 2021, 09:11:21 AM +0000
This was the fastest lap (1:37.640) during the qualy at Barcelona with the dallara F317.
A bit more the artifact of luck than precision. Interesting to see that keeping the car on the right track after a moment can deliver some gains on your lap times...
https://youtu.be/CZmiNZoAJlk (https://youtu.be/CZmiNZoAJlk)


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on February 09, 2021, 01:26:37 PM +0000
Two fun races with these open wheelers. I only did 3 installation laps earlier this week and thought I would improve the setup during qually as I had no more chance to practice.

Unfortunately qually went down the drain as my wheel settings were gone after switching from Content Manager to Kunos UI and back. Luckely the default setup is not that bad.
So R1 starting from the back and noticing I needed to change tire pressures and final drive for Race 2.

The better start position for the second heat made sure I was in good company and fighting for positions during the whole race. Good fun and you seem to be able to run quite close to each other dispite the big wings.
Looking forward to the next race. Oh, and nice race report Dimitar!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: spanner on February 09, 2021, 02:06:12 PM +0000
Interesting video Jos, But it always looks easy for the quick guys! If my car behaved like that i'm sure I could drive that quick!  ;D

In every braking zone I was losing the rear slightly on downshift, I was trying to fight the battle between understeer and oversteer constantly.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: spanner on February 09, 2021, 02:09:25 PM +0000
These car just ended up being a contest to drive them for 20mins rather than any racing as such and falling off occasionally. Short of softening them up and gaining the mechanical grip over aero, these are pretty difficult to drive as the low speed grip is terrible which makes braking horrible as the front just slides if you don't come off at the right moment and you lock the inside front up.


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Geoffers on February 09, 2021, 02:51:07 PM +0000
These car just ended up being a contest to drive them for 20mins rather than any racing as such and falling off occasionally. Short of softening them up and gaining the mechanical grip over aero, these are pretty difficult to drive as the low speed grip is terrible which makes braking horrible as the front just slides if you don't come off at the right moment and you lock the inside front up.

You will find Thruxton a lot easier, you only brake twice per lap!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: spanner on February 09, 2021, 04:52:05 PM +0000
Yes, but can I see the corner from all the bumps due to the stiff suspension!


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: Jos Ogos on February 09, 2021, 10:54:53 PM +0000
Interesting video Jos, But it always looks easy for the quick guys! If my car behaved like that i'm sure I could drive that quick!  ;D

In every braking zone I was losing the rear slightly on downshift, I was trying to fight the battle between understeer and oversteer constantly.
I wish I was always that quick... It's true that, when everything flows well, you go fast almost without making an effort. But how much more difficult is driving when you are struggling with the car and pace!  ::) (tell me about that with the Porsche Cayman GT4... not a fan I can tell you).
I think I saw a few cars with a very low setup (i.e. Dimitri's car seemed to be bottoming heavily and that must have also had an impact on speed and kerb management).
I'm not suggesting this to be a great setup but it served me well the other day. Perhaps you want to give it a go and see if it makes any difference to your pace on Sunday: https://mega.nz/file/cXgSAAbL#uXvzSiW4bGnkQHyrBRy22Fd45qUmRV70mEXS4WiylKA (https://mega.nz/file/cXgSAAbL#uXvzSiW4bGnkQHyrBRy22Fd45qUmRV70mEXS4WiylKA)
All the best,
Jos Ogos


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: spanner on February 10, 2021, 09:51:12 AM +0000
Having been driving GT cars  all the time i find these things pretty terrifying and stressful to drive! I probably wasn't going to be carrying on tbh, but i'll check the setup out, thanks.
 


Title: Re: UKAC Season 17 A17 F3 WINTER SERIES - Barcelona - Feb 7
Post by: spanner on February 14, 2021, 01:21:23 PM +0000
Didnt think to see if the server was still running Barcelona, sounds like it was which is a shame as i only tested your setup offline. Didnt look any different but would like to see them side by side, but the car did feel better in the slower speeds.