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Title: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: AndyL on February 19, 2021, 11:56:21 AM +0000
Season 38 1965F1 – Round 4 – Amateurs - Killarney

Yes, for those who also take part in the MixOW series, it's Killarney again. Not the one in Ireland, nor the suburb of Johannesburg, but the one near Cape Town named afer a nearby hotel.
It first saw F1 cars racing in 1960, when a mixed field was beaten by the two F1 Porsche 718s driven by Stirling Moss and Jo Bonnier. In 1962, Killarney held a non championship F1 race called the Cape Grand Prix. After swapping the lead many times, Trevor Taylor beat Jim Clark over the line in their Lotus 21s. Strong winds blew sand onto the track and several engines were damaged. F1 racing never returned, but the track is still in use today.
This track was recreated for GPL by UKGPL's own Francesco Molteni.

Race list = iGOR
Server = UKGPL10_60fps
IP address = 217.155.118.41
Password = see above (#post_event_password)
GPL Mod = 65F1
60fps Patch = 60fpsV2newmod
Track download = killar67 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=11101)
Qualifying starts = 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race starts = ~ 21:30 UK time
Race length = 33 laps
Replay=
Replay=  here (https://www.sendspace.com/file/s2wwj3)


Handicapping:
There will be no handicapping.  Drivers have a free choice of chassis. Unlimited number of Shift-Rs are allowed with no need to make a Stop & Go.

Only reported incidents will be moderated.

Please, excepting emergencies, no chat until Session Completed in qualification. No chat in the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Driver lists and division specific rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1322&theme=6).


Am drivers:
Full time
dave curtis
Rainier
Eric Bilodeau
Pete Bennett
francesco
PaulV
b_1_rd
Leo Galán Barlo
bernie
il_lupo_mannaro
BadBlood
philippe GIRARD
Rich Welsh

Reserve
Phil Thornton
maddog
leomenegucci


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: bernie on February 21, 2021, 12:11:06 PM +0000
I just DL the Killarney track but the installer is telling me my 64 track limit is full  :o


Question is , How to work around this problem ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Cookie on February 21, 2021, 12:53:01 PM +0000
open GEM+ and uncheck the 64 track limit checkbox right bottom

(https://i.ibb.co/D7dx8VC/Bildschirmfoto-2021-02-21-13-51-28.png) (https://ibb.co/tbR7xms)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: bernie on February 21, 2021, 04:48:37 PM +0000
Thanks Axel I did uncheck the 64 tracks and click the OK button .
But when I exit GEM it defaults back to enforce 64 tracks limit again and I get the same message from the install  :'(

Puzzle  ???



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 21, 2021, 05:14:25 PM +0000
Why don't you just remove some of the tracks you don't use a lot. Just open up Season Manager, open up the season, click on a track you don't drive much and click the left arrow button, it removes the selected track from the season but doesn't uninstall it so you can still use it in other seasons and if necessary you can put it back at a later date.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: bernie on February 21, 2021, 05:38:41 PM +0000
Cheers Phil I did that all OK , be nice to debug the system though , obvious something missing from GEM somewhere  :)

Not to worry will save it for a rainy day  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Cookie on February 21, 2021, 05:42:30 PM +0000
GEM+ has the option to ask if it should save the changes when you leave it

you denie and install the track.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Pete Bennett on February 22, 2021, 10:29:44 PM +0000
I'm looking forward to this race. Such a great track. I'm trying to use a different car each race so this time it's between the Ferrari or the Lotus. I may end up flipping a coin just before qualifying as I really can't make my mind up. See you there.

UPDATE: It's the BRM. I had a change of heart.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 23, 2021, 10:52:23 PM +0000
That was quite a busy race. I lost a place in the early laps when I missed gear and went wide on the last big loop. It took me a few laps to get back on terms and then I had a great battle with David, Dave and Eric. I had to work hard to get past, everyone was very evenly matched so I needed a couple of mistakes and a hard braking pass into T1 to get through. Good clean racing from everyone.

Grats to the podium. Pleased to see Philippe didn't have a screen freeze. Well done Pete on another impressive drive in another chassis. Great to see Leo get a podium after some bad luck in recent races.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Leo Menegucci on February 23, 2021, 11:43:39 PM +0000
Yes Phil, finaly  ;D.

Guess I was easier on the engine. Didn't have a good start, the engine sounds of the others were so loud I stalled mine, alowing Pete to take second.

Then it was a nice chace, the BRM being so strong on aceleration and I closing in the slower corners. Congrats all!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Philippe Girard on February 24, 2021, 07:57:25 AM +0000
thank you phil for your message.
I am obviously very happy with my race night.
but I have to admit that I was stressed because I had a freeze during the training session.
so during the whole race, if I had an olive stuck somewhere on me, I would have made 2 liters of oil.
I was very scared.
but it ended well, and i'm glad.
Congratulations to all the finishers, especially to the lapped drivers .

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Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Pete Bennett on February 24, 2021, 08:31:28 AM +0000
Hi Phil. Yes, another fun evening, this time in the BRM. I'd done some practice-laps earlier in the week in the Ferrari and the Lotus but I decided to take the BRM for a blast instead. As Leo says, it has plenty of speed but he filled my mirrors on some of the slower corners. I made a perfect start, leap-frogging him into second which I managed to hold on to for the next 33 laps. Phillipe was frustratingly close for the first half of the race and the gap between us did not change. At the mid-way point of the race, he made a mistake on the slowest hairpin and I thought that would give me the opportunity to catch him but I then lost concentration and almost made the same mistake on the following lap. So easy to lose concentration and your rhythm. I then watched him pull away for the rest of the race and all I could do was make sure that I kept a safe distance ahead of Leo.

So, quite a lonely race in some ways but still a lot of fun at this fantastic track. I just LOVE these 65 cars - they're so much fun to race. Well done to all finishers and to the back markers for keeping out of the way at all of the right places. A really high standard of driving yesterday at Killarney from everyone with really close lap-times.

FREEZES. Yes, I had a couple in practice during the week. They occurred as exiting the pits. I did not have one in the race yesterday but I did have one whilst in the pits (I was looking at the race detail page and not sitting in the car) during qualifying. I've never experienced that before. I wish I knew what caused these as they are so frustrating. It must be a graphics issue. My guess is that my freeze occurred as the PC was trying to draw other drivers' cars in the replay/preview window as they were still on track. Again, the pits were in the background so perhaps it's something in that area of the track. Who knows? All I can do is pass on my observations and hope that one of the the GPL Guru's can find a definitive answer to this problem.

See you next time, wherever that may be...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Rainier on February 24, 2021, 09:44:02 AM +0000
Next race is at Parana 1987. 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on February 24, 2021, 10:00:31 AM +0000
Just couldn't find the right balance of set up for the 65 cars with the new wheel. My PB at this track is about 2 seconds faster than I qualified last night. First few laps weren't too bad but then I made several unforced errors so I bailed out.
Hopefully I'll have worked things out for the next race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Philippe Girard on February 24, 2021, 11:01:56 AM +0000
indeed pete, it is absolutely necessary to find a solution for these freezes, it must stop.  :-[ :-[

i still didn't understand how you managed to drive so fast with the bt7 at philip island. i couldn't get back to you with the lotus, and then i got my freeze.  ??? 8)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Philippe Girard on February 24, 2021, 11:10:31 AM +0000
In my ancient home, I had a very high internet flow, I have never experienced a freeze.

Now in my new home, I have very little internet flow, the minimum.
I think that could be the explanation.

question: does anyone have very high flow and can tell if they have freeze problems?

computer scientist friends, let's get to work!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Pete Bennett on February 24, 2021, 01:03:33 PM +0000
i still didn't understand how you managed to drive so fast with the bt7 at philip island. i couldn't get back to you with the lotus, and then i got my freeze.  ??? 8)

It was just one of those days when everything felt just right. Perfect car/track combo with perfect gear ratios. Even my chair felt comfortable. It doesn't often happen like that so I put it down to luck more than anything. I don't think I'll be that lucky in the BT7 again this season.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Pete Bennett on February 24, 2021, 01:04:55 PM +0000
In my ancient home, I had a very high internet flow, I have never experienced a freeze.

Now in my new home, I have very little internet flow, the minimum.
I think that could be the explanation.

question: does anyone have very high flow and can tell if they have freeze problems?

computer scientist friends, let's get to work!

Nothing to do with the internet. I get freezes offline as well. I suspect Nvidia Drivers as more and more of us seem to be getting these lately. I get them on Windows10 and Linux. For me, turning down Anisotropic Filtering helps a lot.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: dave curtis on February 24, 2021, 01:20:05 PM +0000
ok, maybe a bit late to mention now...  but if the freeze/issues are when leaving the pits - there were some later additions to fix that
(on page 2  & 3 of the track download thread at SRMZ).

In particular, Fran's post #34  on page 2:  http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=11101&st=30 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=11101&st=30)

Also some other updated files on page 3.

Cheers,
Dave.




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Philippe Girard on February 24, 2021, 01:42:07 PM +0000
I've heard that some windows updates can cause this type of problem.
what is the "anisotropic filtering ?"


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Pete Bennett on February 24, 2021, 01:50:02 PM +0000
what is the "anisotropic filtering ?"

A setting in Nvidia control panel. I have no idea what it does but I just take the advice from Stefan's website regarding settings.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Cookie on February 24, 2021, 02:06:16 PM +0000
Freezes and CTD's have nothing to do with net connections!

Freeze
is the sudden stopping of movement with a raising sound to infinity.
They are mostly software - track related - a gap in the road and you tap into it...

Disconnection has to do with a bad client to server connection, the server tries to tolerate a certain amount of lag for a while, good if it is only a temporary glitch.
But this often accumulates to a too big difference that it concerns other drivers too and so the connection get lost and sometimes some other affected clients are lost too.
If you have a weak connectin please be so fair to try everything to get this fixed,
make shure nobody else uses the same line when you are online racing and
beware yourself of Windoze updates by doing them allways manually early in the morning far away from any racing schedule.

CTD means it is a Hardware/ hardware-driver problem, something is not working correct in the main pc operation software.

PS
AF is the least demanding setting in the GPU driver. I had it allready maxed when I used a Geforce2 MX Gpu

AND
by reducing any demanding task from the GPU you make the fall asleep more recent


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Philippe Girard on February 24, 2021, 05:12:55 PM +0000

Nothing to do with the internet. I get freezes offline as well. I suspect Nvidia Drivers as more and more of us seem to be getting these lately. I get them on Windows10 and Linux. For me, turning down Anisotropic Filtering helps a lot.

Thanks Axel. My graphic card is nvidia Ge force 1050. I don't find "anisotroping", for changing.

I drive on gpl from 2013 to 2017. I stop gpl in 2017.
I used windows 7 during this period, with an old graphic card. Never freeze during this period.
Now, I have changing my computer in 2018, and I am return on gpl this year. I have repetitive freezes...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Cookie on February 24, 2021, 06:06:46 PM +0000
Philippe download HWINFO64 portable run it and make screenshot to see the hardware specs - post it here
https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

to test your Systems stability, run "unigine heaven benchmark" in medium settings - this will bring your graphics sys to the limits - if this runs to the end - your harware is ok
https://benchmark.unigine.com/heaven


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Philippe Girard on February 26, 2021, 08:10:15 AM +0000
Hi,
difficult to know what is the next track : parana or spa ? (idem for 67 mod)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1965 F1 Amateurs - Killarney - Feb 23
Post by: Rainier on February 26, 2021, 08:15:00 AM +0000
Hi,
difficult to know what is the next track : parana or spa ? (idem for 67 mod)

PARANA 1987

Just have a look here : https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=23432.0