SimRacing.org.uk

Grid/server capacity: 22

Track: Imola

Cars allowed: Chevrolet Corvette (GTC-65)

CUP STAGE C, Round 7

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (22 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops required: NO

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None.

This may be old news, but did you know that the Vette GT C-#854 is not a '65. It is a "63. The only year the Vette offered a three-window coupe, i.e. split-window back was '63. The louvers on the sides are different from every other car there and so with the grill. It is a '63 and not a '65. Just so happens that the '63 Vette is a car I have always dreamed of having. I think it's one of the most beautiful cars ever made. A 327 tri-power would be Ok with me.

Any Corvette Tony?

Yep, just like Hockenheim. Any GTC-65 Corvette.

EDIT: I cannot connect to the server. Will try again tomorrow am.

Our server appears to have had a malfunction and Lasse is unable to run tonight's race for us.

It looks likely that tonight's race will be unable to go ahead.

I'm golfing this pm but will check again when I return and post here to update you all.

Sorry to hear that the server is unwell. Am I right in thinking that we pay for a commercial server in a data centre somewhere??

Have any of you guys considered running your own UKGTL server(s)??  like we do over at UKGPL where we have 4-5 privately run FREE servers available at any time.  I am not a technician so probably not the person to propose such a move, but I am sure that there are a a few redundant desktop PC's around the members and from what ( little) I understand about these things there is no requirement for massive graphics capability as all the server does is receive packets of info( detailing positions etc) from each client PC, then dispatch the positions of all other cars back to each client. It is your own PC that generates the on screen action.
Years back private internet connections just did not have the bandwidth available to carry the data, but now with 200MB+ readily available things are easier. Certainly over at UKGPL we have had very few probs and on the rare occasions that we do get a server hiccup, there is always another server instantly available.

I am actually a little relieved that there might be a postponement of this race, although I fully realise that others might feel differently  ::)

I am still struggling with the input delay from my new T300 wheel in GTL, which is why I have been quitting early from recent races. I find trying to predict when the car might slide and that I will need some adjustment to the steering an impossible ask. If I wait until the car slides and then try and correct I am too late and too heavy, if I anticipate and apply opp lock too soon things get ugly very quickly!!. Before this problem I would never have thought 2-3tenths of a second could make so much difference!!

The problem only manifests in GTL. As you know I also race in GPL and the steering is perfect in that sim with zero delay between T300 movement and the on screen car turning it's front wheels. I am still experimenting with Rotation degrees/FF/damper settings etc but that is simply a question of "feel".

So, I have been trawling through various GTL on line forums looking for questions and answers to this dilemma and it would appear that I am not alone. Some simracers have experienced a delay between the steering input and the actual graphics catching up, it appears that the physics are working OK and the monitor display is simply a few tenths behind. I would have thought that was equally a problem!?, but that is most definitely NOT my problem.

Others have described exactly what I experience and have posted videos showing their wheel and the "in car" view on their monitor. The wheel on the rig turns and maybe 2-3 tenths later the on screen steering wheel moves and the car turns. From what I have deduced, when my on screen steering wheel ( eventually) moves the front wheels of the car instantly turn with it. It is ONLY the delay between my rig and the game that is a problem.

I have to assume that as GPL works 100% correctly, the issue is somewhere within the GTL config. I have just found a forum with a complete player.plr file with just about every wheel parameter maximised for GTL. So this p.m. I hope to save my existing .plr and replace it with this optimised version.

If this does not work then I am running out of ideas, so if anyone has any solutions please throw them in.

Update @ 16:15

Still no server.

I have created a server, which may or may not be visible....

it is "UKGTLM2"

Let me know if anyone can join please.
i might have to mess around with ports (again)

Well done Matt  :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Just joined Ok using standard RACE password.

Looks like were back in action.

Bugger, thought this was going to fall my way in a convoluted fashion....

Won't be online tonight, it is my daughters 15th birthday today, so I need to take the family out for a meal, which is much more important than silly sim racing I've been told.....

Have fun chaps.

Cool. It is only my domestic fibre, but it's been used before and has worked ok
Not sure about race replay, if it saves one I will stick on an AWS bucket, likewise results files.
I am not there at the moment, so nothing else will be using the connection.

Don't need the replay Matt, but please send me the qualy and race files when you're able to.

Ok, willdo. I have rebooted the router to try to get the best performance.
I have restarted the server, but it was complaining about name already exists
it has started. But shout if it isn't working, and I will kill it  for a while.

11;15 AM pst cannot get on the server.

There is the m2 up but there is no ping associated.

ok, i will reset it

As it was complaining about the name. I have called it UKGTLM3
and it has no errors

I have the same problem Matt.  Joined earlier without problems, except for a seemingly slow response.  Now when I try to join, I'm prompted for password, but after typing it, I go back to the join screen, and after a few secs, the join button becomes active again.  I never reach the car selection screen or track load.

M3 is working now. Got on the server.

Me too, although GTL crashed on the first attempt, the moment I was in.

Matt, do you want to turn off M2 and just have M3 running?

M2 is not running on my server. The lobby may have a memory of it

Ok

Thanks Matt, were all done now.

Server Replay:


https://phspok182510top.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/Racevirt/Imola050721.Vcr (https://phspok182510top.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/Racevirt/Imola050721.Vcr)

Results and replay now posted.

(and the server's back  ::) )

Sorry to hear about your problems Clive.  If the player file you mention doesn't solve it, you're welcome to try mine - I am on a Thrustmaster wheel too as mentioned before, and I have never experienced that strange problem.

The race was an enjoyable one; power sliding and drifting out of corners was huge fun.   Keeping ahead of superstarter Dan at the start was a small victory in itself  :laugh:   Kept reasonably in contact with the two aliens for the first third, while behind, Dan was dropping back.  As tyre wear kicked in however, the two leaders were slipping away, and by mid point, they were gone.  That is, until I found them recovering after an entanglement, at the double left hander. Went past Geoffers before he was fully up to speed again.  Next lap, I got a bad exit from the small yellow/blue chicane, giving Geoff the opportunity to get alongside.  Tried very hard to provide him with enough room as we neared the downhill braking before that double left, but he still ran wide onto the grass and couldn't stop.   I went off too, but not as bad and could recover much faster. 

Had a 25-sec gap to Geoffers and not many laps left, so 2nd seemed fairly secure.  Hristo 7-8 secs ahead and no chance of catching him.  Then the pit board suddenly showed me in P1. Scratching my head, as I hadn't noticed passing Hristo anywhere, and wondered if I had lost my connection.  Turned out he went to serve a S/G.  Gap about 13 secs with 3 laps to go.  Car very tricky to drive now, and I almost lost it at the final tyre walled chicane, having to bail over the grass.  Shocked to see the gap now 8 secs, with 2 laps to go :o   Not looking good for a win.  Tried desperatedly to go fast on my shot rear tyres without losing control, seeing Hristo getting larger in the mirror.  In the end it just held, but very relieved to see the finish line for an unexpected win.

Grats/commiserations to Hristo and Geoffers.

This was less of a torture than Hockenheim, but still tricky with the rear tyre wear. Geoff was extremely quick in practice and qualifying, and at first I couldn't understand how to make up more than a second deficit to his lap times. Tried a few things with the setup during Q and got lucky to snatch pole from him.

In the race he was quicker in the early laps, until I found my rhythm and could push more, but at the same time I didn't want to ruin my tyres early, so I had laps where I eased off a little. This allowed Geoff to catch up again and attempt some attacks, but unfortunately he lost it downhill for Rivazza and we made contact. After that he seemed to be dropping back more and more, so I was left on my own.

Much to my surprise I got a s/g for cutting, which means I must have missed the 2nd warning somehow.

As Erling mentioned, he was some 13 seconds ahead after my stop, with 3 laps to go, so I knew I had to take massive risks to put pressure on him. It seemed that I would be able to catch him just at the end, but then I messed up the Variante Alta chicane and lost about a second, so second was what I had to settle for.

Grats to Erling for the victory (makes up for Nivelles!), Geoff for 3rd, and to Tony and Dan for making it to the end as well. Shame that so few turned out for this though

Quite enjoyed that race despite the stupid mistakes, as Hristo said the Corvette was much more suited to Imola than Hockenheim last week.

Was fairly pleased with my best qually lap, but it should have been better as I ran too deep into Rivazza & lost a few tenths. Race started well & I had no trouble keeping up with Hristo in the early laps, but Hristo upped the pace & it coincided with me making a couple of small mistakes so the gap went from nothing to 4s in a couple of laps.
Eventually did catch back up & when Hristo made a small error at Variante Alta I got alongside down to Rivazza, however I was on the outside through the slight RHer & got a wheel on the grass & spun the car. Sorry to Hristo, I think I either clipped you or you went off avoiding me, but you rejoined faster than I did so it worked out OK. Erling went past as I was getting going & the next lap the situation repeated itself with Erling making an error at the chicane & me getting alongside down to Rivazza. After what happened the previous lap I braked a bit earlier this time but it actually made things worse as the car would not turn & I went off across the grass this time & into the barriers.
By the time I rejoined Hristo & Erling were long gone & I came in a distant 3rd.

Congrats to Erling & Hristo & well done to Tony & Dan making it to the finish.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Forgot to mention that I streamed my driving again, if anyone wants to check it out:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1077603355

My fastest lap and also the last 3 laps are worth watching  ;D

Will take a look  ;D - when appr. was your fastest lap?

Wait for Kurt to do the results then you can find out.

Lap 8, begins at about 28:20 in the video

I watch it on H's stream from my bed :D It was a nice race, grats to Erling! :)

Thnx, and some entertaining laps Hristo - you got some arm twirling excercise  :laugh:

Forgot to say thanks to Matt earlier, for providing the backup server, without even being there himself; class act!  :thumbup1:

Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2021//05072021_Imola)


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Happy to help, of course.
I am stuck down in London this week, so at least I was able to monitor the server
Network traffic was very light, became a little more as people joined, Hristo
made the most difference, perhaps he doesn't have it set to ISDN? Is that the correct thing?
Was not a problem, throughput of the line would allow about 18 people on.
I have done that in the past, and some central Euro people had a faster connection
than our rented server. But mine proved to be a less dependable connection.

Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1:

Oh, my apologies, I'll make sure to set it to ISDN next time!

Yes, Lobby Data Rate should be set at ISDN.