Title: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: Phil Thornton on March 25, 2021, 05:49:37 PM +0000 Season 38 – 1955 Grand Prix – Round 6 – Privateers - Bremgarten
This race announcement is for the PRIVATEERS. The sixth race in the 1955 Grand Prix series takes us to Bremgarten in Switzerland. Bremgarten is situated to the north of Bern and was built as a motor cycle track in 1931. The circuit itself had no true straight, instead being a collection of high-speed corners. From the outset, it’s tree-lined roads, often poor light conditions and changes in road surface made for what was acknowledged to be a very dangerous circuit, especially in the wet. The Swiss Grand Prix was held at Bremgarten between 1934 and 1939 and again between 1947 and 1954. In 1950 the Swiss Grand Prix was included in the new Formula One World Championship. The race was won by Italian Nino Farina, who would go on to be the first Formula One world champion. In 1951 Argentine Juan Manuel Fangio dominated in his Alfa after taking advantage of Farina's wrong decision not to make a pit stop to change tyres during changing wet-to-dry conditions. In 1952 newcomer Stirling Moss ran as high as third in his underfunded Alta-powered HWM, but the race was won by Italian Piero Taruffi who scored his first and only F1 victory. In fact this Grand Prix was only championship race (other than the Indianapolis 500) not won that year by Alberto Ascari. In 1953 Ascari had to make a pit stop to fix the misfiring engine in his Ferrari. He left the pits in fourth place and stormed round the circuit, passing Fangio in a Maserati, and his teammates Farina and Mike Hawthorn to take victory. Ascari also won his second Drivers' Championship at that event. In 1954 Fangio (now driving a Mercedes) led from start to finish in rainy weather to take his second Drivers' Championship from countryman José Froilán González. Bremgarten has not hosted an official motorsports event since 1955, when spectator racing sports were banned in Switzerland.
Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line. Driver lists and division specific rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1272&theme=6). Available Tokens: Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: bernie on March 26, 2021, 11:32:01 AM +0000 Who in gods name chose this purler of a track :'(
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: Phil Thornton on March 26, 2021, 01:44:20 PM +0000 Me ::). It is authentic Bernie. These cars actually raced there.
Tip from me, don't waste tokens ;) It will be a race of attrition not speed. Hopefully this (https://youtu.be/BliBTWGCpVA) will inspire you :thumbup1: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: bernie on March 26, 2021, 03:55:44 PM +0000 Exactly ! Doubt my race wil last too long given past form , don't recall ever doing more than 2 consecutive laps at this place without expiring in one way or another , usually spectacularly :laugh:
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: Giovanni Centorame on March 26, 2021, 06:14:33 PM +0000 Beautiful choice Phil, I like theese old road circuit with lots of altitude changes and blind corners ;D @bernie, i think the challenging part of this circuit it's the first sector until Eymatt, particularly on T1 dont' follow the grooved dark line, brake a bit earlier and coast until you can see clearly the " Solex " advertisement ( if you are using the 55 update for the track) and start turning. If you stay inside the car will be stable and you'll have a nice and fast exit. If you follow the dark line you'll start turning too late and with too much speed in the corner, the car will oversteer and even if you manage not to spin you'll find your car bounching against the embankment until the final crash into the barn below the Swiss flag :oops:
I think the best rule for Bremgarten is slow IN and fast OUT, it's the only way to not crash againt the fences, especially inside the forest. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: bernie on March 27, 2021, 11:47:50 AM +0000 Beautiful choice Phil, I like theese old road circuit with lots of altitude changes and blind corners ;D @bernie, i think the challenging part of this circuit it's the first sector until Eymatt, particularly on T1 dont' follow the grooved dark line, brake a bit earlier and coast until you can see clearly the " Solex " advertisement ( if you are using the 55 update for the track) and start turning. If you stay inside the car will be stable and you'll have a nice and fast exit. If you follow the dark line you'll start turning too late and with too much speed in the corner, the car will oversteer and even if you manage not to spin you'll find your car bounching against the embankment until the final crash into the barn below the Swiss flag :oops: I think the best rule for Bremgarten is slow IN and fast OUT, it's the only way to not crash againt the fences, especially inside the forest. Thanks for the advice Giovanni , I will look out for it . It will be great to get through at least one turn without crashing :angel: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: maddog on March 27, 2021, 12:40:58 PM +0000 One good turn deserves another. The forest section is high speed and almost featureless, so I tap the brakes, and change down a gear at each turn. Overtakes there will be highly precarious. :o
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: Cookie on March 27, 2021, 01:05:00 PM +0000 Training server is up
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: Leo Menegucci on March 27, 2021, 09:11:59 PM +0000 Server keeps kicking me off cause of high latency ::)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: Phil Thornton on March 27, 2021, 11:13:41 PM +0000 Server keeps kicking me off cause of high latency ::) I assume you are referring to UKGPL4? I normally set the maximum latency to 300 mS. I've restarted the server with a max latency of 1000 mS. If you still have problems I'll turn the max latency off but if I do that drivers will have to be more careful about potential warp contact.Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: dave curtis on March 27, 2021, 11:35:02 PM +0000 Server keeps kicking me off cause of high latency ::) I assume you are referring to UKGPL4? I normally set the maximum latency to 300 mS. I've restarted the server with a max latency of 1000 mS. If you still have problems I'll turn the max latency off but if I do that drivers will have to be more careful about potential warp contact. Assuming you are connecting via iGOR, what sort of ping value do you see displayed for UKGPL4? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: Phil Thornton on March 28, 2021, 12:49:24 PM +0100 As far as I know, Brazil currently observes Brasília Time (BRT) all year. So that means the qually start time in Brazil will be an hour earlier than usual, i.e. 16:45 (BRT) with the race starting at 17:50 (BRT).
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: Leo Menegucci on March 28, 2021, 01:51:59 PM +0100 Server keeps kicking me off cause of high latency ::) I assume you are referring to UKGPL4? I normally set the maximum latency to 300 mS. I've restarted the server with a max latency of 1000 mS. If you still have problems I'll turn the max latency off but if I do that drivers will have to be more careful about potential warp contact. Assuming you are connecting via iGOR, what sort of ping value do you see displayed for UKGPL4? My ping vaules are usualy less than 300 for UKGPL servers. Maybe yesterday not, I didn't check. Today is in 284 average and I connected to UKGPL11 set to 349ms max. All looks fine ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: Phil Thornton on March 28, 2021, 01:59:09 PM +0100 :thumbup1:
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: maddog on March 28, 2021, 09:42:42 PM +0100 Kamikaze final practice lap - hit a fence - freeze - reboot . . . . you all left without me! :'(
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: Leo Menegucci on March 28, 2021, 09:56:16 PM +0100 Freeze nooooooooo :'(
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: francesco on March 28, 2021, 10:05:16 PM +0100 Sorry Silva,I didn't see your car coming, last time I looked in the mirrors it was still far away.For sure the Vanwall is faster than the Conn.
If I'd have noticed, I'd have let you through. I just wanted to finish. The 55 cars need the virtual mirror.Some have to little mirror and i have left Igor 2 or 3 times to adjust the cockpit view and to have ,at lest,a decent view of the mirror.They were almost invisible at the start. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: bernie on March 29, 2021, 05:18:28 PM +0100 Apologies to David for the squeeze , you didn't look that close in my mirrors then I was focused on the corner and got a shock when you suddenly appeared alongside , glad you were able to carry on.
Needless to say I was well chuffed with a (very fluky ) podium finish thanks to all the dippers on this tough track . Bit ironic I should get p3 after complaining I couldn't go two laps with out crashing here . Thanks for the fun ::) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: Giovanni Centorame on March 29, 2021, 05:39:15 PM +0100 Tough race for me yesterday... I started the weekend confident because the car vas very good and i like a lot this type of track, in fact I secured the pole with a promising gap. The race started without problems but i noticed a strange fuel comsumption. In offline practice i calculated an average of 2.5 l per lap, so i refueled with 57 l to have enough margin, but my engine was drawning more than 3 l per lap, so even if i'would have enough fuel to finish the race i managed to coast as possible and to keep a pace that allowed me to stay just ahead of Leo without pushing. At the end of lap 6 i was 2 secs ahead of Leo and 15 ahead of Luiz in third and suddenly my engine started misfiring and a light grey smoke came out of the cowl. I don't know if the issues where related but pressures were ok, and temp at 80° ???. I realized i could continue so my goal was to complete at least the 50% of the race to score some points. 6 laps of agony lapping in 3.00 minutes until the engine muted inside the forest. Happy to get some good points but sad for a probable win.
Congrats to the podium and especially to Bernie for his consistent race :rockon: EDIT: I hope I have not hindered anyone during my cruise as a mobile chicane, especially Bernie and David that were fighting for second place. ;D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: bernie on March 29, 2021, 06:19:50 PM +0100 Sorry Giovanni , I told my mechanic not to put that much sugar in your tank , the idea was just to slow you down a little ;D
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: maddog on March 29, 2021, 07:51:47 PM +0100 In the 1950's many cars would break down during a GP, as these were experimental cars pushing the limits. Ours break less, as most do not consider that to be more fun. But sometimes . . . . :-\
The 55 cars need the virtual mirror.Some have to little mirror and i have left Igor 2 or 3 times to adjust the cockpit view and to have ,at lest,a decent view of the mirror. I have changed the cockpit view on the Vanwall, which has the lowest mirrors. With this, default FOV should be OK for widescreens - virtual mirrors I cannot make. https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=24882.0 Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: francesco on March 29, 2021, 10:22:26 PM +0100 Thank you Martin, now i have found the work of Tommie(TVO). Already applied, could be an help. The ideal could be a virtual mirror divided in 3, with the left and right view but i don't know if this is possible. The specialist at gpl repository is Lee, i could ask him.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: maddog on March 29, 2021, 11:11:05 PM +0100 It you have 55 virtual mirors, maybe there is an Inet address where they are found?
3 virtual mirrors! I had a friend who had an Auto-X Bmw, and was faster than me. :-\ He put a full width multi-rearview mirror in his racer. I said, "More important is the road ahead, unless you are slow." :D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: francesco on March 30, 2021, 06:06:57 AM +0100 Quote It you have 55 virtual mirors, maybe there is an Inet address where they are found? Probably yes but i don't remember.I found them in my downloaded files folder for GPL.Sometime i do download with the idea"then I will look at them" and so they were forgotten.If you need i can send you.Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: maddog on March 30, 2021, 01:41:19 PM +0100 Thankyou Fran, but I like to be realistic. I use three things - car mirrors, ears to hear, and 4 x 3 to see with. Widescreen needs, 'No letterbox patch.' Tvo has a Website, so perhaps the Virtual mirrors for 55's are there? The address may be at SRMZ. :)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1955 Grand Prix - Privateers - Bremgarten - Mar 28 Post by: Phil Thornton on March 30, 2021, 11:08:00 PM +0100 I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet. For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement). The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error.
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