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Title: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 13, 2006, 01:51:22 PM +0000
Practice 2:19:30(30 mins)
Qual 2:20:00(30 mins)
Race:20:30(120 mins)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any car from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.2 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27).
Weather: Changeable.
Track: Silverstone GP (available from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27))
Race Start Time 14:00
Pit Stops: There is no mandatory stop for fuel or tyres (but it is unlikely that any car could finish without at least one stop). However, all drivers must make a timed rest stop - see details below.

Server: UKGTR Super Endurance
Password: here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2522)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) The event is open to all registered forum users.
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) The server will be running GTR 1.1 - you must install the patch (http://gtr-game.10tacle.com/index.php?id=191&type=2&L=1) or you will be unable to join.
(5) Your choice of car has no effect on any of the championships.
(6) Note that we will be using the new version of the skin and ballast pack.

Mandatory Timed Rest Stop

To take your timed rest stop, you must enter the pit lane through the normal entrance (after Luffield), pull over to the right where it meets the 'long' pit lane (the one with the entrance before Luffield), and come to a complete standstill in the 'lay-by' on the right (just before the pit lane itself begins) for a minimum of 5 minutes. You should then leave via the chicane at the far end of the lane (not via the sharp right hand turn) which leads into the pits, and finally drive through the pits on the limiter before rejoining the track.

If you also stop for tyres or fuel on the way through the pit lane, that time does not count towards your rest stop.

You cannot take your mandatory timed rest stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

(https://www.simracing.org.uk/downloads/forum/silverstone-timed-stop-area.png)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 13, 2006, 01:56:34 PM +0000
Following on from this thread (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2380), we have now picked a date for this; however, only 12 people said they could make this date, so this 'announclement' takes the form of a poll to see if there really is enough interest to do this. Please vote to incidcate whether you will be taking part if it goes ahead.

If the race does go ahead, the format will be a 2 hour race with a mandatory minimum 5 minute stop outside of the normal pit boxes. Car choice will be completely free and the track will be one of Silverstone or Laguna Seca (both add-ons) or Spa 2003.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Aagramn on December 13, 2006, 02:22:07 PM +0000
I'll be in darkest Cornwall on the 28th with no broadband connection, so definitely can't make it.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: John on December 13, 2006, 02:29:29 PM +0000
I've got no problem making it so count me in.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: greg130 on December 13, 2006, 03:48:36 PM +0000
Sorry on hols.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Chunky on December 13, 2006, 03:53:49 PM +0000
I'll be there.....it will be a welcome change from family and TV! ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: popabawa on December 13, 2006, 03:58:34 PM +0000
I'm more 'definite' than 'likely'  but I erred on the side of caution.

If you're looking for track preferences, Laguna Seca would be great :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: linco24 on December 13, 2006, 04:14:52 PM +0000
Count me in provisionally.

Pending me experince in the Sprint on the 19th!

Is Laguna Seca an original track from the game or an add-on?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: popabawa on December 13, 2006, 04:17:05 PM +0000
Is Laguna Seca an original track from the game or an add-on?

It's an add-on but it just happens to be my favourite :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: linco24 on December 13, 2006, 04:21:14 PM +0000
Okay,

So i'll have to install this as an add-on then? no-grip I take it?



Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: popabawa on December 13, 2006, 04:26:03 PM +0000
It kinda depends, there's always a download link for the track if it's an add-on.

There are sometimes multiple versions of the same track so we all have to use the same version.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: DynoDaz on December 13, 2006, 04:32:38 PM +0000
Count me in.

Leguna Seca would also be my choice. :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Truetom on December 13, 2006, 05:32:39 PM +0000
I'll be here. My wife'll be busy making other womens haircuts over the holidays so I'll prolly have some peace around here.  ;D

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: JonM_uk on December 13, 2006, 06:39:02 PM +0000
I'll be away for this :(

Jon


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: silver53 on December 13, 2006, 08:54:15 PM +0000
Hi I would say Silverstone or Spa, the lagona seca seems awfully pinched around the cork screw area or is it just me. We used to drive it  in Nascar and it seemed much different or was that a different track "Infinion"?.Good news my 8mb connection is supposed to be up and running , bad news I tested it and its no way that fast. cheers gerald


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 13, 2006, 09:14:10 PM +0000
Hi I would say Silverstone or Spa, the lagona seca seems awfully pinched around the cork screw area or is it just me. We used to drive it  in Nascar and it seemed much different or was that a different track "Infinion"?.Good news my 8mb connection is supposed to be up and running , bad news I tested it and its no way that fast. cheers gerald

Infineon Raceway is somewhere else (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&location=79).


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: will16v on December 13, 2006, 09:34:25 PM +0000
I should be able to make this one - Laguna Seca perhaps..?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: cej on December 13, 2006, 10:43:10 PM +0000
I have to add that if the track is Le Mans I will not race. It's the most boring track I've ever tried so I won't be able to stay awake for more than 10 minutes or so  :P

Apart from that I'm ready for almost anything  :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: jan duijs on December 13, 2006, 10:53:53 PM +0000
Guys you know it has to be Road America.Its a thrill soooo fast  :laugh: , http://www.no-grip.net/details.php?filenr=1658

Jan


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: FlyBri on December 14, 2006, 03:33:52 AM +0000
i put probably, but you can count that as a 95% probably, unless i get a better offer!!  :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Reign Man on December 14, 2006, 01:51:08 PM +0000
I will be available for the race...If it is one of the tracks that has to be downloaded when will the decision be made as to what track/version it is? as it would be nice to have a decent amount of time to get some practice in.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Mark J on December 14, 2006, 04:27:04 PM +0000
I missed the original poll vote otherwise i would have been on the 28th list.  :-[

Have still had to vote 'probably' as i fly back from Italia on that day and therefore subject to my travelling times, but if i'm home i will be gagging for some racing action.

Would prefer a GTL endurance race personally  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: pribeiro on December 14, 2006, 07:02:37 PM +0000
I surelly will try to be present :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: pribeiro on December 14, 2006, 10:08:24 PM +0000
Sebring Sebring Sebring Sebring
 :jumpjoy:


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 14, 2006, 11:01:13 PM +0000
Sebring Sebring Sebring Sebring

I haven't been able to locate a decent version of it for GTR2. ???


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: pribeiro on December 15, 2006, 11:54:27 PM +0000
Maybe this one?
http://www.mrmenmods.org/
If you think its not good enough, a nice alternative track................
AUTOPOLIS  ;) at the same link ;).

Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 16, 2006, 02:51:17 PM +0000
Maybe this one?
http://www.mrmenmods.org/

Sebring is not available for GTR2. There's an illicit conversion available in two forms from various places but frankly it looks awful.

I've played Autopolis a bit in rFactor and it's good but a bit too twisty for this type of race. Silverstone's looking favorite right now...


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: lincescom on December 16, 2006, 03:42:36 PM +0000

   :) I'm in
   
   I like Luguna very much, but for a Two hours racing, I prefer a longer circuit   :-\
   But I'm  in  ;)

   Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Truetom on December 16, 2006, 04:37:25 PM +0000
Do we have an old Hockenheim?  :)
How about Road America?
Or Road Atlanta?

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: pribeiro on December 16, 2006, 04:56:01 PM +0000
How about Surfers Paradise?
Its fast, have a few narrow corners, it´s wide and not short or boring at all ;)
A great track with a good driving challenge for 2 hours race  :D
plz,plz,plz,plz,plz,  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: popabawa on December 16, 2006, 07:39:24 PM +0000
Whichever track we go for I'll need a bit of notice so I can get some practice in, I've never ever heard of most of those tracks! :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 16, 2006, 08:05:11 PM +0000
Whichever track we go for I'll need a bit of notice so I can get some practice in, I've never ever heard of most of those tracks! :D

As I said in the lead-in, the track choice will be one of Silverstone or Laguna Seca (both add-ons) or (less likely) Spa 2003, for exactly those reasons.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Truetom on December 16, 2006, 08:33:58 PM +0000
Hey, in a long race there'll be plenty of time to learn track while racing.  :D
I'd like to try something new.  8)

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: silver53 on December 16, 2006, 08:39:08 PM +0000
I think all the ailiens should race with the pit limiter on ,lol, that would make a change to the race.cheers gerald


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: lincescom on December 16, 2006, 11:51:15 PM +0000
I think all the ailiens should race with the pit limiter on ,lol, that would make a change to the race.cheers gerald

  :clap: :thumbup2: :clap: :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: D_Nichols on December 17, 2006, 06:44:58 AM +0000
Laguna would be mental for an Enduro.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: popabawa on December 17, 2006, 09:41:37 AM +0000
Whichever track we go for I'll need a bit of notice so I can get some practice in, I've never ever heard of most of those tracks! :D

As I said in the lead-in, the track choice will be one of Silverstone or Laguna Seca (both add-ons) or (less likely) Spa 2003, for exactly those reasons.

OK, thanks Dave, all the rest of the chat about other potential tracks confused me :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: ossie on December 17, 2006, 10:47:59 AM +0000
should be able to make this one unless her indoors drags me away from my pc.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Jeffrey on December 17, 2006, 05:30:13 PM +0000
Have to change my vote to: No, as I have a dinner with colleagues from work


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 18, 2006, 03:19:59 PM +0000
I've now put the candidate versions of Silverstone and Laguna Seca for GTR2 on the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27).


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Joss on December 18, 2006, 07:57:42 PM +0000
Personally, I'd prefer Silverstone. I've never driven it in either GTR 1 or 2, and whilst Laguna is a an OK track...a 2 hr enduro would mean constant lapping of other cars because it's short, you'd never get a clear lap in qualifying, plus it's narrow as crap so there's bound to be incidents aplenty.

Then again, not sure if I can make it yet - probably won't know for a while either :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: cej on December 18, 2006, 10:21:47 PM +0000
by the way, how about making it a Lotus Elise only race ?  That could spice things up a bit  :punk:


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 19, 2006, 07:55:06 AM +0000
by the way, how about making it a Lotus Elise only race ?  That could spice things up a bit  :punk:

Two hours in an Elise! Oh, the tedium of it! :P

I've pretty much decided to use Silverstone for this and possibly Laguna Seca during Season 5.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Adam Parle on December 19, 2006, 08:46:53 AM +0000
I'm definately around on the 28th - I'm off to Scotland on the 30th.

As such I'm moving towards definately racing in this special - just will need to see what's happening with the family first.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: linco24 on December 21, 2006, 10:49:34 AM +0000
Put the track on last night,

Didn't put the folders in the right place first of all but no problems now! Put an hour or so of practice in last night in the C5R. Its much nicer to drive, alot more forgiving for me. Managed a 1.49.889 which seemed like a good time tbh???

Anyway hope to see some of you online. I'll be putting in alot of practice!


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 21, 2006, 03:04:49 PM +0000
First post of this thread now updated with more details. Main thing to be confirmed now is where we will do the timed rest stop.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 21, 2006, 08:17:23 PM +0000
First post of this thread now updated with a little map and some text showing where to take your mandatory rest stop. I'm expecting that most people will try and combine it with a pit stop so I've mandated leaving via the pits to make rejoining the circuit safer..


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: John on December 22, 2006, 12:00:53 AM +0000
I've just downloaded and installed silverstone but my cars floating and rocking.
I wouldnt mind but looking at the rythm of the rocking it looks like some one having a bit in my lambo.
lucky git.
How do i solve this.
I cant race with some one humping in my car.lol


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: merlinthepike on December 22, 2006, 09:24:37 AM +0000
same thing as me beholder.try timetrial ,my car falls through the ground. ???
what have i done this time  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: cej on December 22, 2006, 09:55:45 AM +0000
 :lol:


Haven't seen any problems yet when dring on Silverstone. But I have only played in offline so far,maybe a problem on the server ?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Simon Gymer on December 22, 2006, 09:56:35 AM +0000
Are there really not enough tracks in the main game to use an original track? The short ones never get used, maybe that would be nice to do, especially with 2 hours and only 15 people.

I can't remember there not being some problem or another with a GTR 1 or 2 addon track, I can't believe they are worth the effort online when there are 30something original tracks.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: linco24 on December 22, 2006, 10:06:18 AM +0000
May I suggest Donington GP........


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: EdamSpeed on December 22, 2006, 11:01:35 AM +0000
I have 'the other' Silverstone. The one that shows in the lobby as "Northamptonshire". I think it was done by -=4ph3x=-. Originally from rFactor I believe. Could be the contentious one, although I'm not sure.

Anyway, would this one be slightly better than the one posted on the downloads section? I've run on it a fair few times without any issues, and certainly not sinking into the tarmac! It's a good circuit to race V8 supercars on :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: picnic on December 22, 2006, 11:30:43 AM +0000
Server is now running this with GTR2 1.1 patch installed.

I've only run this online with the UKGTR skin pack and so far not experienced any issues.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 22, 2006, 12:11:01 PM +0000
I have 'the other' Silverstone. The one that shows in the lobby as "Northamptonshire". I think it was done by -=4ph3x=-. Originally from rFactor I believe. Could be the contentious one, although I'm not sure.

Anyway, would this one be slightly better than the one posted on the downloads section? I've run on it a fair few times without any issues, and certainly not sinking into the tarmac! It's a good circuit to race V8 supercars on :)

The one in the downloads section is the rFactor conversion... I'll bet those having problems have not installed it to the correct place. Has anyone been silly enugh to unpack the Zip without its internal folder structure, so that all files come out in a single directory instead of "top" directory plus three individual layouts inside it?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 22, 2006, 12:15:13 PM +0000
First post updated to reflect the server's 1.1 patch status.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: EdamSpeed on December 22, 2006, 12:54:28 PM +0000
The one in the downloads section is the rFactor conversion...

You're quite right. I am a dolt for not checking the version posted in the downloads section - it's the same as mine, albeit with a different filename for the .zip.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 22, 2006, 04:30:50 PM +0000
I've just tried various combinations of putting wrong things in wrong places but I can't reproduce the bouncing garage problem. I can make GTR2 crash but that's not exactly hard. :angel:


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 22, 2006, 05:17:09 PM +0000
Didn't put the folders in the right place first of all but no problems now! Put an hour or so of practice in last night in the C5R. Its much nicer to drive, alot more forgiving for me. Managed a 1.49.889 which seemed like a good time tbh???

I've just done a 1:47.375 in the Lambo with the default setup on my first flying lap whilst testing to see if I could reproduce the Beholder/Merlin problem(s).


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 22, 2006, 05:22:18 PM +0000
same thing as me beholder.try timetrial ,my car falls through the ground. ???
I've just downloaded and installed silverstone but my cars floating and rocking.
I wouldnt mind but looking at the rythm of the rocking it looks like some one having a bit in my lambo.

Can you both start a command prompt, and do the following:
Code:
cd /d "c:\Program Files\GTR2"
dir /s GameData\Locations >locations.txt
adjusting the directory to reflect where you've got GTR2 installed. Then open locations.txt (created in your GTR2 directory) and either post it here or PM it to me... I'm 95% sure you've installed it wrong.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Munkez on December 22, 2006, 05:39:45 PM +0000
let me get this right you just drop the "british gp" folder into locations once downloaded?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 22, 2006, 05:53:06 PM +0000
let me get this right you just drop the "british gp" folder into locations once downloaded?

Correct, but be aware there are two BritishGP folders, one inside the other one, you need to move the outer one, so that the inner one is still inside it.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Munkez on December 22, 2006, 05:55:43 PM +0000
let me get this right you just drop the "british gp" folder into locations once downloaded?

Correct, but be aware there are two BritishGP folders, one inside the other one, you need to move the outer one, so that the inner one is still inside it.

so in locations you have British GP........ then inside that British GP, International and National?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Madd-RIP on December 22, 2006, 06:33:39 PM +0000
Just been informed that I'm going out for a meal with friends on  the 28th >:(, rats, have agood one guys.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 22, 2006, 06:41:35 PM +0000
so in locations you have British GP........ then inside that British GP, International and National?

Correct.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Dec 28
Post by: Jeffrey on December 22, 2006, 06:56:19 PM +0000
Didn't put the folders in the right place first of all but no problems now! Put an hour or so of practice in last night in the C5R. Its much nicer to drive, alot more forgiving for me. Managed a 1.49.889 which seemed like a good time tbh???

I've just done a 1:47.375 in the Lambo with the default setup on my first flying lap whilst testing to see if I could reproduce the Beholder/Merlin problem(s).

1:42.8 in the C5R and
1:42.7 in the Saleen (banana)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: pribeiro on December 22, 2006, 06:57:59 PM +0000
I just removed my YES vote, because race start at 20.30
and thats problably the time i can join :'(


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: John on December 22, 2006, 07:12:27 PM +0000
Ok, this is what ive done.

I've downloaded.
Then i've taken the outer british gp folder, not the inner.
And put it into locations.
So now instead of the rocking and hovering,
It just quit the game all together and took me back to my desktop.
The 3 tracks are there on the list.
They just wont load now


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Minton on December 22, 2006, 07:18:24 PM +0000
Just did a 1.43.6 in the 550 ...im sure Ruskus and Jon M will be doing a one minute dead or something stupid!!!! ::)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 22, 2006, 08:13:49 PM +0000
Ok, this is what ive done.

I've downloaded.
Then i've taken the outer british gp folder, not the inner.
And put it into locations.
So now instead of the rocking and hovering,
It just quit the game all together and took me back to my desktop.
The 3 tracks are there on the list.
They just wont load now

That was the symptom I got when I deliberately mis-installed it. Is it possible you've got some leftover files from a previous incorrect installation lying around somewhere?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 22, 2006, 08:22:30 PM +0000
BTW we will only use the new skin pack for this if it's ready for download by Sunday evening. Otherwise we will delay releasing it until after the 28th to avoid confusion.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: John on December 22, 2006, 08:35:04 PM +0000
Sorry m8

Tried every thing and cant get it to work.
Totally given up now.
Ive just removed my yes vote.
So i'll see you at donington.
Merry xmas
And happy new year

Beholder(Aka)John


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 22, 2006, 09:01:33 PM +0000
 :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Madd-RIP on December 22, 2006, 09:27:00 PM +0000
I know I'm probably gonna miss this one but if it goes well do you think we'll be having another? Or even some single make races like you did previosly with the Elise in GTR?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: John on December 22, 2006, 09:35:49 PM +0000
No good dave

Ive just uninstalled gtr2 and reinstalled

Same problem

Gutted


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 22, 2006, 09:46:40 PM +0000
I know I'm probably gonna miss this one but if it goes well do you think we'll be having another? Or even some single make races like you did previosly with the Elise in GTR?

We might run something like the Elise series between regular seasons, and possibly on those Thursday nights when we aren't doing GTL.

If the Super Endurance goes well we might run them as an irregular thing. A lot depends on whether we decide to run the normal Endurance races on alternate weekends.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Madd-RIP on December 22, 2006, 09:56:39 PM +0000
Ta for that ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: FlyBri on December 22, 2006, 09:57:40 PM +0000
i voted i will probably race, but pleased to say i will defo be racing  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Truetom on December 22, 2006, 11:06:14 PM +0000
Is 1.50 good enough for NGT?  ???

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: John on December 22, 2006, 11:59:14 PM +0000
Changing my vote back to yes cause ive done it

Woo Hooooo


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: John on December 23, 2006, 12:38:26 AM +0000
Just done 10 laps

Done a 1.46.475, Default settings on the lambo

Then tweaked it abit.
And got 1.43.545

I cant half see there being some problems with tyres.
Just listening to the screeching of them
But what a great track.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Truetom on December 23, 2006, 08:32:39 AM +0000
I see event is passworded. Some guys from TPG asked if they can join with just registering on the forum or must they be part of our championship to race. Dave?  :)

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 23, 2006, 10:07:02 AM +0000
Is 1.50 good enough for NGT?  ???

In a race this long, consistency and preservation are going to be at least as important as pace, if not more so.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 23, 2006, 10:07:16 AM +0000
Changing my vote back to yes cause ive done it

Woo Hooooo

 :jumpjoy: :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 23, 2006, 10:08:32 AM +0000
I see event is passworded. Some guys from TPG asked if they can join with just registering on the forum or must they be part of our championship to race. Dave?  :)

I don't want the password posted publicly, but if somebody wants to post the password on the TPG forums I don't mind at all.

Ditto the GRC forums, although I think they're running their own Endurance event on the 28th using rFactor.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Munkez on December 23, 2006, 10:25:16 AM +0000
excellent!! have had a chat with the boss (missus) and after not racing for the last 2/3 weeks she doesnt mind if i attend the enduro!! WAHOO........ gonna get some practice in, see you all there!


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 23, 2006, 10:40:05 AM +0000
I just removed my YES vote, because race start at 20.30
and thats problably the time i can join :'(

Are the times alright for everybody else? We could put it back by 30 minutes so that it ends at 23:00 but I thought that was perhaps getting a bit late?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: cej on December 23, 2006, 11:18:42 AM +0000
since this is a non-championship race, are we allowed to pick any car ?

I have some problems getting a good speed in the Saleen so might go back to the old trusty Lister for this race  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 23, 2006, 12:19:13 PM +0000
since this is a non-championship race, are we allowed to pick any car ?
I have some problems getting a good speed in the Saleen so might go back to the old trusty Lister for this race  :)

Yes, any car at all, including the 993 GT2 which I have enabled again on both A and B servers. Car choice is completely unrelated to any championship.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: cej on December 23, 2006, 02:19:33 PM +0000
tried the Lister but was even slower.  :-\

Back to the Saleen and then I got a low 45  :)

Still a couple of seconds behind you guys,but at least in the Saleen I'm having a great time to the sound of the V8 sound pack  :punk: :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 23, 2006, 03:34:53 PM +0000
Well, the poll has closed but we certainly seem to have enough to go ahead. ;D

Did a bit of practice earlier and am turning steady 1:53s in race trim. I know what my strategy will be if it stays dry but over two hours with changeable weather will it...


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: merlinthepike on December 23, 2006, 06:16:46 PM +0000
beholder what did you do?i've taken the britgp off and now the car is rockin at every track lol
might be time to save the plr. and start again  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: John on December 23, 2006, 07:35:04 PM +0000
I totally uninstalled the game and went through all the files looking for anything to do with gtr2 and deleted them.
Plus after all that I worked out i installed it wrong


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 23, 2006, 07:40:56 PM +0000
beholder what did you do?i've taken the britgp off and now the car is rockin at every track lol
might be time to save the plr. and start again  ;D

You've definitely installed it into the wrong place. :-\ All you should need to do is move the GameData folder from the zip file into your GTR2 directory, say "yes" when it asks you to overwrite files with the same name. If you touched any individual files then you're trying too hard. :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: John on December 23, 2006, 07:54:13 PM +0000
Ive just sent him a Pm on how i solved it


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: D_Nichols on December 23, 2006, 07:55:07 PM +0000

I don't want the password posted publicly, but if somebody wants to post the password on the TPG forums I don't mind at all.

Ditto the GRC forums, although I think they're running their own Endurance event on the 28th using rFactor.

Dave if you want I''ll take care of sorting out any TPG guys who want to come and race. Would you like them to make themselves known on the forum?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: John on December 23, 2006, 07:55:52 PM +0000
merlin check your pm


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 23, 2006, 08:28:51 PM +0000
Dave if you want I''ll take care of sorting out any TPG guys who want to come and race. Would you like them to make themselves known on the forum?

As long as we can identify anyone who isn't registered on these forums when we import the results we'll be okay, although obviously it would be ideal if everyone taking part was registered in case there are any last minute problems or changes. If you'd like to post something on their forums that would be good. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 24, 2006, 10:31:41 PM +0000
I have updated the first post of this thread to reflect our intention to use the new version of the skin and ballast pack, which is now available (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2535.0).

Because of the time of year, it may be 2 or 3 days before we have a chance to update the practice server with the new cars. Please be patient.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jure on December 25, 2006, 01:49:57 AM +0000
Can I also join, please? I know, should be reading this more often...  :angel:

And if yes, 20.30 UK time or CET?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Truetom on December 25, 2006, 07:32:48 AM +0000
Angleški cajt, Jure!  ;D

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: locutos ukgtr on December 25, 2006, 08:56:37 AM +0000
Think I can make it now. Installed the new car pack but server says car not available. I assume server hasnt been updated yet?

Also, reading the race procedures, can some1 clarify.... Is it ok to pit once you,ve done the mandatory 5 mins rest stop or do you need to exit pit lane and pit on following lap/laps?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 25, 2006, 09:14:02 AM +0000
Think I can make it now. Installed the new car pack but server says car not available. I assume server hasnt been updated yet?

I'm just doing the A server now.

Also, reading the race procedures, can some1 clarify.... Is it ok to pit once you,ve done the mandatory 5 mins rest stop or do you need to exit pit lane and pit on following lap/laps?

To quote: "If you also stop for tyres or fuel on the way through the pit lane, that time does not count towards your rest stop." So, yes, you can use the trip through the pit lane after the mandatory stop for normal pit work - I certainly plan to! ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 25, 2006, 09:23:33 AM +0000
GTR2 A server now upgraded and apparently working.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: silver53 on December 25, 2006, 09:56:39 AM +0000
Hi it was not for me at 9.40am.gerald


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Don on December 25, 2006, 10:00:45 AM +0000
Anyone know what car they will be driving for this? I do fancy a change in class for this, but not sure a 2 hour Enduro would be the ideal place to start!
C5 or the TVR, thinking for me at this time ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 25, 2006, 10:15:07 AM +0000
I was very tempted to use the C5R but in the end decided to stick with what I know. :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: John on December 25, 2006, 10:52:38 AM +0000
I might try the lister.
Practiced with all GT cars last night.
And with a few tweaks,was doing 1.44s with lister.
Was getting !.43s with lambo.
But was making me sweat after 10laps
Still unsure of what i'll use.
I know it wont be a ferrari.
Cant keep them on the track.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jeffrey on December 25, 2006, 11:05:15 AM +0000
Hey, where did my post go????


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jure on December 25, 2006, 01:44:09 PM +0000
This game is highly addictive, drove 90 lap race in silverstone 'till 6AM and I blame you guys for putting me up to this with your enthusiastic posts :D

Was doing steady 1.45s in that black brick lambo, soft front, medium rear, 100L of fuel. Need a good setup, that first corner is a b..ch. Anyone? :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: locutos ukgtr on December 25, 2006, 04:53:27 PM +0000
GTR2 A server now upgraded and apparently working.

Thanks Dave, Merry Christmas.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: lincescom on December 25, 2006, 05:46:44 PM +0000

 I will join the grid with the 996 GT3 RS   ;)

 Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 25, 2006, 09:17:40 PM +0000
Hey, where did my post go????

P'raps the DataFlame faeries ate it? ???


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: silver53 on December 25, 2006, 09:24:27 PM +0000
I think te old mosler or the vette will be asteady driver but am testing the lister soon .cheers gerald


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Truetom on December 25, 2006, 10:01:07 PM +0000
I'm not if I'll be in a (brand new) GTC  :tt1: or in a MC12 for change.  :smartass:

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jure on December 26, 2006, 02:32:12 PM +0000
short info: got booted while joining today. twice. picked up lambo and it said "car not on server" or smthn. same settings as last night and later on today when it worked fine.

thought u should know :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jeffrey on December 26, 2006, 02:43:31 PM +0000
Can we have the practice server on changeable weather too pease  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: silver53 on December 26, 2006, 09:33:38 PM +0000
Jure That happened to me it is because you have not fully uninstaled the old skin pack. I am certian if you unistall 2.1 it will be ok .gerald


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jure on December 27, 2006, 12:50:32 PM +0000
Jure That happened to me it is because you have not fully uninstaled the old skin pack. I am certian if you unistall 2.1 it will be ok .gerald

nope, that wasn't it, had same problem after clean install of the game itself + 2.2 pack.

reboot cured it.  ;D

if anyone's interested, i've uploaded "lambsilv RC" setup or smthn like that to the online setups folder. would appreciate some feedback, us noobs need to learn as much as we can. ;D Setup's good for 1.44-1.45 race pace on full fuel load but tends to be "easier to drive" on full load of fuel, so keep in mind u need to tweak F/R brake power constantly. i.e. the lighter u get, the more you have to move it to the rear wheels.

anyway, can't tweak it much more imho  ??? so it must be a dead end, i'm pretty sure lambo on full fuel load should be capable of 1.42 flat. anyone prepared to share some good setup? tarzan confused  ;D


edit: Gizmo, I race under Petra Skofic (my GF's name), would that be ok or should it be changed to Jure to avoid possible confusion? :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 27, 2006, 01:03:07 PM +0000
edit: Gizmo, I race under Petra Skofic (my GF's name), would that be ok or should it be changed to Jure to avoid possible confusion? :D

Now you've told us it won't matter. Though you may get some "driving like a girl" comments. ;) :laugh: :angel:


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Truetom on December 27, 2006, 01:11:23 PM +0000
You mean like: "What a wide a$$ that Lambo has" ?  :lol:
 :P

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jeffrey on December 27, 2006, 01:11:56 PM +0000
Hope the lobby will be back up by tomorrow.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jeffrey on December 27, 2006, 01:12:58 PM +0000
You mean like: "What a wide a$$ that Lambo has" ?  :lol:
 :P

TT


Or lot's of rearending ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Radius on December 27, 2006, 02:13:26 PM +0000
Now you've told us it won't matter. Though you may get some "driving like a girl" comments. ;) :laugh: :angel:

Ive already gotten my jab in yesterday while practising with him  ;D ;D ;D

huhu


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jure on December 27, 2006, 02:44:25 PM +0000
and you were also told I use her name in order to prevent her whining while I race  ;)

"Honey, I do it in your name... so shut up"  Try it, works miracles. ;D


Dang, should have kept my mouth shut and try to beat some of you, then rub it in, u know, eh, girl beat you up ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: cej on December 27, 2006, 03:40:40 PM +0000
 :lol:


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: will16v on December 28, 2006, 01:02:37 PM +0000
Well, should be able to compete tonight, but got a lot of installing to do, what with the new car pack, the track and the 1.1 patch - not been online since before Christmas, but the mrs has given me the ok...
Hope to see you all tonight...pending sucessful install of updates... :-\

May take the 993 RS, or the MC12 - must get some practise in this aft though...



Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jure on December 28, 2006, 02:43:12 PM +0000
question: what happens if lobby's down? can we play via IP or...?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Simon Gymer on December 28, 2006, 03:07:19 PM +0000
question: what happens if lobby's down? can we play via IP or...?

Nope. Simbin/Blimey in all their wisdom chose to make the lobby essential for even Direct IP connections where you don't connect via the lobby it does really in the background. Fairly sure they did not change that for GTR 2.  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jure on December 28, 2006, 03:21:51 PM +0000
http://hyperfighter.sk/

This guy (Jiri, don't make fun of his english  ;D ) managed to get any kind of game working via his software/lobby.

Now, since I'm on first name basis with him, I can have a word with him, pretty sure he can do it for GTR2  ;)


edit: there, it's done, threw him a bone, now he's chewing on it. more in next episode.  8)

and yeah, this isn't a thread for this, i know, i know  ::) ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Radius on December 28, 2006, 04:34:29 PM +0000
http://hamachi.cc/ would work as well


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jeffrey on December 28, 2006, 05:12:41 PM +0000
http://hamachi.cc/ would work as well

Only up to 16 people, which isn't worth it imo


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: linco24 on December 28, 2006, 06:00:33 PM +0000
hmmm,

Still no UKGTR appearing on the lobby for me. Is this a fault with me or is this across the board?



Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jeffrey on December 28, 2006, 06:07:40 PM +0000
hmmm,

Still no UKGTR appearing on the lobby for me. Is this a fault with me or is this across the board?



You do have it on Simulation right, as I've seen it online this afternoon.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: linco24 on December 28, 2006, 06:17:15 PM +0000
 :-[

Ok, how very embarrassing, I had it on semi-pro.

I'm in!

Thanks Ruskus,

Colin 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Minton on December 28, 2006, 06:17:33 PM +0000
Hi Peeps, Cant get the game to load up with the new patch anybody have any ideas why?
Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jeffrey on December 28, 2006, 06:24:51 PM +0000
Hi Peeps, Cant get the game to load up with the new patch anybody have any ideas why?
Cheers

What does it say? DON'T use the no cd crack!!!!


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Truetom on December 28, 2006, 06:27:23 PM +0000
Hehe...  :D

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Minton on December 28, 2006, 06:30:59 PM +0000
Dosnt say anything ... im using the cd , it just dosnt load


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Minton on December 28, 2006, 06:49:53 PM +0000
Right sorted it.... the patch i downloaded from here didnt work.... just downloaded another patch and it works fine.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: cej on December 28, 2006, 06:50:52 PM +0000
I won't be able to make this one after all  :'(

Have a good race people  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Minton on December 28, 2006, 08:41:10 PM +0000
Made a right old mess of that!!! soz to anyone who got caught up in my brain fade.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: EdamSpeed on December 28, 2006, 08:47:33 PM +0000
I tried to make this one, but despite the amount of 'probably' votes, the server was full..

..Or rather it wasn't.. It was reporting 25/26 players. Everytime I tried to join, I got the 'server is full' message.

And while I'm having a moan - who designed that lobby? Have they ever tried to use it? It's a UI disaster. For starters, it asks you for the password even though the server is full - why not just say it's full straight off? And why the hell does the highlighted server de-select itself when another server is added to the server list? Also, the enter key - why does it sometimes work as the 'yes'/'continue' button, and sometimes not?

These are stupid little problems but they really grate on the nerves when you're trying to join a server which claims to have a free slot! Someone should have fixed those problems in GTR1, and yet here we are - after the many GTR1 patches, GTL, and GTR2 and its patch - still with the same stupid irritating bugs.

</rant>

Is there any mileage in trying 28 slots again, now that the 1.1 patch is here?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: stnasky on December 28, 2006, 09:08:30 PM +0000
Said the same for me in lobby 25/26 so i click join and np. :angel:

Got disqualified for failing to take a stop n go.  Never got any cut track warnings to indicate i had done such.  All tho after looking at the replay the only time i see all 4 wheels on the grass was at that hairy moment on the opening lap with some cars stationary on that fast righthander, ah well.

hope you all had fun



Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: lincescom on December 28, 2006, 09:08:47 PM +0000
 I had to quit, :-[
 I was only able to see the four cars in front of me and two in the back, I did the pace lap hooping to see the problem solved, I did a few laps but then a Blue flag start to come up and I couldn't see any GT behind me, that was the end of the race, I didn't want to end up sending some one to the gravel. ;) right  :angel:

 Cheers,


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: picnic on December 28, 2006, 09:23:14 PM +0000
I couldn't get on either and yes I agree with all the moans about the lobby  >:(


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jeffrey on December 28, 2006, 10:17:12 PM +0000
Well, I learned alot from this race.

First of all, the C5R is pretty competitive, and second, it burns very well ;D.

Did an okay lap in qually and got in 4th. The start was a bit weird. The guy infront disengaged the limiter, so I floored it as well, but then the guy infront of that was slower for some reason, so I slowed down again, thinking I was too quick with the limiter.
On the straight I was able to overtake two cars infront, one because it was on the grass, and the other because the Vette is faster in a straight line.

At that point I was behind Radius. I was faster in the first part, but slower in de 2nd. So I was following him around for about half an hour, when he was held up by a backmarker and I could pass.

I could then drive away from him slowly, just to lose everything again with overtaking backmarkers. Which takes me to thanking all the backmarkers for great fairness in driving, I had absolutely no problems with anybody  :thumbup2:. Losing time with overtaking is what makes enduranceraces special and often very close till the end.

My strategy was to do two very long stints with 100L and meds allround. And then before my 2nd stop, I would take my 5min stop to calculate the remnaining fuel necessary. But it didn't come to that ;D. With 30 minutes to go, it blew bigtime :lol:.

I opened the radiator to 4, but didn't lower the rev limiter. Like I said, I was learning the car. And it could last for 90 minutes, enough for season 5's endurance events ;D. Also because this track has some hard shift points where you shift back while cornering.

The track and car were a blast to drive, shame it ended a bit too soon, as I think I could have won it in the end. I was leading for over an hour :).

 Oh well, loved the idea of these kind of races. Takes some pitstop strategy, but also with the stop, it won't let you end up dead ;).

Grats to winner


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Chunky on December 28, 2006, 10:27:24 PM +0000
I got this race totally wrong :'(
I only got back from yorkshire @ 7! not enough time to learn the track and get the set up right.
Got the pit stop/rest stop all wrong only did 4 min (didn't read the instructions properly)  :-[
Then the ISP dropped my connection
Oh well  :-[
congrats to the winner's


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Truetom on December 28, 2006, 10:32:50 PM +0000
Yea, nice! After NGT pole and some nice duel with Locutos I made a gap of 15 seconds. Then instead of 5 min I made a 6 min stop!  :stupid:
Tried to close the extra minute ! gap then my engine gave out. Too bad, I think I could win this one.  :hang:

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: linco24 on December 28, 2006, 10:43:50 PM +0000
Hey folks,

That was me in the lonely silver porsche at the back. Hope I didnt get in anyones way throughout the race, though I know I got in a few peoples way, sorry for the tangles.

Congrats to the winners and podium finishers

Regards
Colin


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: locutos ukgtr on December 28, 2006, 10:46:57 PM +0000
LOL TT, I wondered what the bloody hell was going on. U were at the rest stop when I arrived, my lap clock said 1:54 so I exit at 6:54...and u were still sat there. I thought, balls, Ive messed this up big time, then I see Dave and start thinking either he aint stopped or TT has ballsed up. Had a great scrap with TT in the 1st half and an even better scrap with Dave in the 2nd half. Was bloody awesome and some excellent driving. Cheers Dave and congrats on the win m8.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: D_Nichols on December 28, 2006, 10:53:43 PM +0000
Wow great first half of the race.  ;D

Then a driver who I'm racing for postion with decides to flash his headlights at me too put me off  :nono:

An nGT car knocks me off track causing me to lose a postion while lapping me  :thumbdown:

Then a GT car does it twice within two laps   :dots:

Those 3 points aside, the other drivers displayed some very good driving, so well done to them.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Joss on December 28, 2006, 10:55:24 PM +0000
Grats to Radius!
Commiserations to Ruskus :(

Somehow a terrible race was rescued to become quite a good one. :)
The 5 minute stop is a godsend - was ready to burst when I took it!
Thanks to the NGT's again, I dunno how you guys are so polite. Some even drove off the road to let GT's by?!? You guys have as much right to be there as anyone else. Stick to your line and we'll find a way past :)

Also, soz for the start - I had brain fade and hit my pit limiter button way too late and gave Radius a jump :(
I'm really keen to see the replay file, I have no idea what happened down at the end of the Hanger Straight on lap 1, all I know is I ended up facing backwards and half way down the field with almost no damage?!

My endurance curse semi-struck tonight ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Radius on December 28, 2006, 11:01:05 PM +0000
WOW what fun!!! My first ever race in the lambo :D  ;D

Did a quali lap and was heading for a 2nd tour with tires optimum when i see smoke!!! lol

Esc as not to distract anybody els and check radiator...hmmm but its at 3...why did it blow? Then i click the arrow and see that it goes till 5 in the lambo  :dots: :stupid:

So set out again and this time monstered it through Maggots/Bekkets, flat through Bridge and lots of speed through Priory..that was a real buzz and got pole with seven minutes left which i was sure couldn't be beaten :D So took a nice long toilet break  :D  ;D

Race was going great till the Enduro bug of lapping cars crept in!  :D For me it was very 50/50 through the traffic but drivers were always willing and thats awesome!

Then when i took my 5 miute stop i got up a bit as my right foot was crampping a bit and im finding it a bit hard to be smooth on the throttle..got back to seat with 1 minute to wait, calculated fuel needed and contemplating not changing rears to make up time on leader, luckily i decided to switch car views and see where everyone is and then seeing Ruskus sitting next to the road chatting up the marshals lol so could safely make as long a stop as needed!!

Was having so much fun! Thanks for organising this great event!!!! I love Enduros :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Kerr on December 28, 2006, 11:22:47 PM +0000
My first ever race with you guys and first 2 hour race too and i fair enjoyed it. Happy with my 3rd place.

What tactics should i be using? I was too scared to really go for it in case car never lasted?

Managed a one stop race using medium tyres and 100 litres of fuel and not going hard on the revs.

Any tips, help and especially information on set ups would help me loads


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Madd-RIP on December 28, 2006, 11:35:52 PM +0000
Results anyone? Sounds like the race was a doozy! My meal was delicious, nice spicy mexican Fahjitas and Green chilli batter onion rings.....burp!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jure on December 28, 2006, 11:51:35 PM +0000
Right.

Congrats to Radius (hope you did it on my setup  8)  ;D ) and rest of the podium, that's for starters. Hats off, great pace.

Started well, got to the right side of the track early enough to avoid the pile up caused by FreQ being sleepy at start/finish line ;D and squeezed into 5th position, but lost it on Hangar straight to a red ferrari, clearly running much lower rear wing, so I decided to play it safe and simply gave way to avoid possible carnage. Which, as luck has it, was developing right in front of us  ;D Lots of spinning&expensive metal in the middle of the corner persuaded me to brake and got off the track, rejoined in 8th, although passing those 3 in the pile up.  ;D

A Lambo, perhaps Radius (you were in the above mentioned race incident, right?) came on me so fast I also accepted his offer to put me a place down without any opposition or remorse, since I spun out the instant I made the decision to let him by anyway ::)) ;D  Then drove a steady race behind two ferraris but couldn't touch them. Tyres gave up on me 6-7 laps before pits (100L + 100L + whatever needed strategy) and lost 3-4 secs per lap. Twice, of course, since same thing happened on next stint.  ::)

Rejoined after 1st pit right in front of the leader, turns out green ferrari in the mirror was my opposition, leader was the red one behind him, myself not realising the situation so I let both go by. ::) Steadied myself right behind the leader, but slowly lost my nerve since I was clearly faster. After several obvious "hey, i'm here, ready when you are" in the mirrors and with leader clearly in trouble (suspect he was empty but out of grip) I thought we had an agreement I can go by so I passed him on the entrance to pit straight, but got nudged in the butt by 550 due to my high wing settings and his... not high wing setting  ;D  Whomever it was, it was my fault, should have stayed behind few more laps, although that green 550 was going away (hence the hurry ::) ) 

Spun on the middle of the pit straight, leader luckily stayed in shape and moved on, myself facing opposite direction, of course. Rejoined fast enough, then drove rather uneventful stint (I think  ;D ) contemplating what an idiot I am for not going 1/3, 1/3, 5min stop and rest of fuel load strategy. Lost 20 secs, again, due to worn tyres, but not as bad as in first sting (nurtured them  ;D ).

Stopped for much awaited 5 mins reststop (think sandblaster  :angel: ), miscalculated again (finished with 19 L of fuel to spare) and started to chase whomever I had to chase at the time. Which I did, got past god knows who some 4-5 laps before finish line (perhaps a TVR? Maybe I was "the blinker" to someone who gave way few laps before finish - if yes, sorry mate, had no idea, all I went for were that 550 and saleen in front towards which I was gaining 2 secs a lap at the time. Hope it's OK, we both realise I'd get by in those laps left, right?  :angel:), then ran out of time to pass green ferrari (him being slower due to saleen entertaining some serious left front tyre trouble, I suspect :D ).

Analysis: All in all, lost 60 seconds to bad strategy (bad lap times on worn tyres plus lack of race pace due to 2 much fuel onboard) , 5 places due to carnage in lap 1 and 35 seconds to mistakes during the race and that's it. I'm happy, hope it was good race for everyone, had LOADS of fun. (Pitty for that vette going up in smoke, I went "f***, not while in the lead".)

Last but not least, was surprised by NGT drivers (guys, there is no need to go off to let us by, c'mon, race your race). Extremely happy with light blinking and general gentlemanship. Very cool.

P5 is cool for race 1, Tarzan happy.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 28, 2006, 11:51:51 PM +0000
Replay (http://www.ukgtr.org/replay/Northamptonshire%20GP%20-%20Super%20Endurance%20061228_2031.zip) and results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=295) available. If you're a new driver please check the results to make sure your entry is shown against the correct forum name.

The start was a bit weird. The guy infront disengaged the limiter, so I floored it as well, but then the guy infront of that was slower for some reason, so I slowed down again, thinking I was too quick with the limiter.

There was strange stuff going on all the way down the field - the car in front of me went and so did I, then he checked up so I had to do the same. It was all a bit too hectic - I guess we had quite a few new faces who didn't fully understand how the start is supposed to work.

Had a great scrap with TT in the 1st half and an even better scrap with Dave in the 2nd half. Was bloody awesome and some excellent driving. Cheers Dave and congrats on the win m8.

It was absolutely the best scrap I ever remember having in an Endurance race and it happened at totally the opposite end of the race to normal! After the start things settled down very quickly and I very slowly pulled away from Reign Man's TVR but could make no real impression on the cars ahead. Just before the race I looked at the track temperature and decided to put in an extra 10 litres of fuel and do a longer first stint so I didn't have to drive the last 20 minutes on really worn tyres.

It worked out brilliantly - stopped with 50:38 left on the clock and rolled out towards my pits on the dot of 45:38 having had a nice relaxing 5 minute break and with little more than a normal sprint race left to do.

Came out to find Locutos behind - assumed he was in a GT as usual but as he drew closer I realised he was in a 911 and that it really was a fight for position - and probably a podium place too, although TT looked to have the NGT win sewn up. Struggled for pace for a few laps letting Loc by but could see he was pushing really hard, and then was able to catch him after he had a couple of moments. We traded places numerous times, sometimes through our own mistakes and sometimes after one or the other was baulked by lapping cars or backmarkers.

Other than one time when I think I may have been a bit too forceful going into Abbey it was an absolutely top draw battle and I was so relieved when the chequered flag came out with under litres of gas left and my wrists utterly knackered, not to mentioned gobsmacked when the results confirmed that thanks to TT's blown engine I had taken an unexpected class win! ;D ;D ;D

I was really pleased to see a full field turn out  8) although it was disappointing to see three people disconnect in the first 15 minutes, since there were people waiting in the lobby hoping to get a spot. :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: linco24 on December 29, 2006, 12:00:32 AM +0000
c'mon, race your race

I would have raced but I was against myself! I just wanted to get some sort of nice tempo going and get some steady lap times. Tires were shot too soon but my fuel was a little heavy.

It was great being amongst everyone and apologies again for being a nuisance!

Regards
Colin


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Madd-RIP on December 29, 2006, 12:02:09 AM +0000
Thanks Dave for posing the results, I wish I could've been there, I missed a great race by all accounts, hopefully Silverstone will be a regular feature from now on?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Radius on December 29, 2006, 12:12:03 AM +0000
Right.

Congrats to Radius (hope you did it on my setup  8)  ;D ) and rest of the podium, that's for starters. Hats off, great pace.

Started well, got to the right side of the track early enough to avoid the pile up caused by FreQ being sleepy at start/finish line ;D and squeezed into 5th position, but lost it on Hangar straight to a red ferrari, clearly running much lower rear wing, so I decided to play it safe and simply gave way to avoid possible carnage. Which, as luck has it, was developing right in front of us  ;D Lots of spinning&expensive metal in the middle of the corner persuaded me to brake and got off the track, rejoined in 8th, although passing those 3 in the pile up.  ;D

A Lambo, perhaps Radius (you were in the above mentioned race incident, right?) came on me so fast I also accepted his offer to put me a place down without any opposition or remorse, since I spun out the instant I made the decision to let him by anyway ::)) ;D  Then drove a steady race behind two ferraris but couldn't touch them. Tyres gave up on me 6-7 laps before pits (100L + 100L + whatever needed strategy) and lost 3-4 secs per lap. Twice, of course, since same thing happened on next stint.  ::)

Rejoined after 1st pit right in front of the leader, turns out green ferrari in the mirror was my opposition, leader was the red one behind him, myself not realising the situation so I let both go by. ::) Steadied myself right behind the leader, but slowly lost my nerve since I was clearly faster. After several obvious "hey, i'm here, ready when you are" in the mirrors and with leader clearly in trouble (suspect he was empty but out of grip) I thought we had an agreement I can go by so I passed him on the entrance to pit straight, but got nudged in the butt by 550 due to my high wing settings and his... not high wing setting  ;D  Whomever it was, it was my fault, should have stayed behind few more laps, although that green 550 was going away (hence the hurry ::) ) 

Spun on the middle of the pit straight, leader luckily stayed in shape and moved on, myself facing opposite direction, of course. Rejoined fast enough, then drove rather uneventful stint (I think  ;D ) contemplating what an idiot I am for not going 1/3, 1/3, 5min stop and rest of fuel load strategy. Lost 20 secs, again, due to worn tyres, but not as bad as in first sting (nurtured them  ;D ).

Stopped for much awaited 5 mins reststop (think sandblaster  :angel: ), miscalculated again (finished with 19 L of fuel to spare) and started to chase whomever I had to chase at the time. Which I did, got past god knows who some 4-5 laps before finish line (perhaps a TVR? Maybe I was "the blinker" to someone who gave way few laps before finish - if yes, sorry mate, had no idea, all I went for were that 550 and saleen in front towards which I was gaining 2 secs a lap at the time. Hope it's OK, we both realise I'd get by in those laps left, right?  :angel:), then ran out of time to pass green ferrari (him being slower due to saleen entertaining some serious left front tyre trouble, I suspect :D ).

Analysis: All in all, lost 60 seconds to bad strategy (bad lap times on worn tyres plus lack of race pace due to 2 much fuel onboard) , 5 places due to carnage in lap 1 and 35 seconds to mistakes during the race and that's it. I'm happy, hope it was good race for everyone, had LOADS of fun. (Pitty for that vette going up in smoke, I went "f***, not while in the lead".)

Last but not least, was surprised by NGT drivers (guys, there is no need to go off to let us by, c'mon, race your race). Extremely happy with light blinking and general gentlemanship. Very cool.

P5 is cool for race 1, Tarzan happy.  ;D

Anything else you forgot  ;) ;D ;D

Was surprised to only see you after 50 odd laps, when we were practicing together u had lots of pace but as i told you then...come race time it all changes drastically :D:D (oh and yes i used your setup as im a total Lambo n00b!)

No that Lambo wasnt me, i was P1 and when i looked in my mirrors after hangar straight i saw the mess..pity it took allot away from the race! From the replay i saw Minton on the grass down the striaght  :o ??? and when he joined he was pointing 45 degrees and spun out freQ and then the mayhem  ;D

That left only me and Rus left :( .....but anyway was one of the best races for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time!

Tx for results post!


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Joss on December 29, 2006, 04:44:25 AM +0000
Can't sleep after all that, so thought I'd check the replay out  ;D

Started well, got to the right side of the track early enough to avoid the pile up caused by FreQ being sleepy at start/finish line ;D
Yes, yes, I'm sorry. Disengaged my limiter too late and caused a bit of confusion - I got punished for it straight away as Dan Minton steamed past me into Copse. Doh!

Seeing as this was a fun race, I'm assuming we can openly discuss incidents....So I have to ask what on earth were you doing on Hanger Straight Dan? You slowed down, flashed your headlights, drove onto the grass, let Ruskus and me through and then ran into the back of me at Stowe. At the time I had no idea what had happened and just assumed someone had got in too hot...but watching you on the replay has me very confused  ???

Don't take this too seriously, only a fun race - just curious and frustrated as me and Radius were 0.03 apart in qualy, and after the first stint, were almost identical on race times too.

That'll teach me for messing up my starts!  :-X


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jeffrey on December 29, 2006, 07:16:32 AM +0000


Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Silverstone 28-12-2006/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jeffrey on December 29, 2006, 07:50:51 AM +0000
I smell porkchops :P

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(Click for full image)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: FlyBri on December 29, 2006, 08:01:10 AM +0000
Absolutely awesome race, started 8th and after 1st lap incidents i gained 4 places, within a whisker of being taken out by someone in one of the incidents, he was sitting stationary 90 degrees to the traffic when he decided to move forward right in my path sooooo close, was behind B.Kerr for all of my first stint (great racing mate) i was slightly faster and hounded him all the way (now know he was running alot more fuel!) in that stint but couldnt get by, meanwhile there were cars chasing us down.

Pitted after 45 mins came out 8th and soon realised others were one stopping including B.Kerr, anyway kept plugging away trying to be consistant in lapimes, done my next stop with 20 mins to go, taking my 5 min stop also (much needed strech of the old legs etc) last stint made some placed back while others pitted, but was being hunted down by a lambo (Jure??) in the last few laps. I did have a good 12 sec lead over lambo after he came out the pits but due to me being a bit erratic and cooking my tyes and some traffic he got it down to within a couple of secs. Held 4th place to the end which i was very pleased with and didnt make any big mistakes  :angel:.

Like already said, thanks to all the cars being lapped for letting the GTs through. Cant be easy while trying to run your own race......Sorry to Don for swapping door paint at one of the chicanes, mis understanding mate, didnt mean to make conatct and also a sorry to Dave G who i held up while he was battling with Locutos near the end, i didnt know where you were as i was passing so i had to come of throttle and leave room for you as i didnt want to take you out. Would normally have been more patient but my tyres were cooked and had a Lambo chasing me down.....

Hope we can do this again  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Don on December 29, 2006, 09:04:20 AM +0000
I had a great first 60 mins, trying to keep up with Mooman and keep Gizmo behind. I seemed to keep getting the better of the traffic which allowed me to do that.
Gizmo got me around the 50 min mark as I made a mistake through Copse corner and he could blast past.
Came in at the 60 min mark as I got a tyres warn warning and thats where it started to go wrong, was clobbered from behind as I sat doing my 5 mins stop (luckily no damage, only a scare) Drove into the pit lane to find someone else sitting in my box!, Had to go round again and that cost me so much time I never saw the NGT's I was fighting with in the first half again. Lonely old race after that only the GT's kept it interesting.
Love the distance but don't like the 5 min stop!!
Can we have more of these please, and btw what a great track should be on the regular calendar.

Funny :D some of you GT's saying hold your line and keep racing! If I had done that all the time last night I think I would of had a few trips to the sand. Most of us know when to back off and leave room and insure a clean pass. Easier sometimes to just let the GT car go, you end up losing less time and avoid any lock ups or hairy moments! ;)
(Edit) Saying all that I think the GT drivers were spot on last night.

NP Flybri, I had lost sight of you as well!


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 29, 2006, 09:38:29 AM +0000
Seeing as this was a fun race, I'm assuming we can openly discuss incidents....

No you can't, for the same reason we don't discuss them for championship races - we don't want to see the forums descend into finger pointing and flaming. If you have a problem with another driver's on-track behaviour, please submit an incident report as normal so that the moderators can look at it and, if necessary, take action to prevent it happening again.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Truetom on December 29, 2006, 10:59:17 AM +0000
But you CAN point a (middle) finger at yourself.   ;D  I know I'm doing it to me for my dumb(er) performance last night.  :hang:

So, what is our next event?   :)

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 29, 2006, 11:11:08 AM +0000
That was me in the lonely silver porsche at the back. Hope I didnt get in anyones way throughout the race, though I know I got in a few peoples way, sorry for the tangles.

Actually I need to say thanks for giving me room when I ran off at one point! ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 29, 2006, 11:13:18 AM +0000
Thanks to the NGT's again, I dunno how you guys are so polite. Some even drove off the road to let GT's by?!? You guys have as much right to be there as anyone else. Stick to your line and we'll find a way past :)

I ran off a few times letting people by but it was never deliberate! :laugh: Sometimes I was just offline or unsighted, sometimes I just plain ran out of talent. :angel:


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: cej on December 29, 2006, 11:44:01 AM +0000
But you CAN point a (middle) finger at yourself.   ;D  I know I'm doing it to me for my dumb(er) performance last night.  :hang:

So, what is our next event?   :)

TT

Remember,that when you're pointing at someone 3 out of 5 fingers are pointing at yourself  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Radius on December 29, 2006, 01:07:04 PM +0000
Funny :D some of you GT's saying hold your line and keep racing! If I had done that all the time last night I think I would of had a few trips to the sand. Most of us know when to back off and leave room and insure a clean pass. Easier sometimes to just let the GT car go, you end up losing less time and avoid any lock ups or hairy moments! ;)
(Edit) Saying all that I think the GT drivers were spot on last night.

The NGT guys were amazing, i had a spin with "the silver porsche" coz he was being tooo kind :D He always slowed right up when he spotted me but slowing that much with the speed difference and especially on a cnr is very unpredictable....but he meant well!

@ Gizmo..when i lapped u last time round i wasnt flashing at you but at Gerald...saying thanks for him giving way in a GT car..coz you seemed to flash me like 5 times (probably out of frustration ;D ;D ;D)


Can we have more of these please, and btw what a great track should be on the regular calendar.

I said i would only run this race if it was Silverstone and i was spot on!!!  :P

We went through Maggots/Bekkets like 60 odd times and every time i just loved it!


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Radius on December 29, 2006, 01:15:44 PM +0000
Also regarding the 5 minute stop....i felt it was a good for a break but i was frustrated as hell sitting there and not knowing what was then unfolding in the race. Very confusing!

I think i might have gone 4 or 5 laps down that way and wasnt sure at all what was happening in the race. Also with some drivers doing one stoppers its even more confusing (didnt know some cars could do a one stop race!)

I was so lost regarding placement that i didnt know if to push or just not stress the car that much ??? As you can see , ol Russie pushed a bit too hard :D and due to my ZERO experience in the lambo i wasnt sure how it would do over a 2hour race.

So although i agree with a break, 5 minutes seemed long (FOR ME!) as i just wanted to get back out on track...and it was so funny seeing 5 cars just parked there with yellow flags being shown :)

What do others think about the 5 minute thing?????



Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jure on December 29, 2006, 01:20:21 PM +0000
@ Radius: then it must have been FreQ that came screaming down my neck after 1st lap carnage. What a pace! And yes, you're right, race day tends to be different than practice is. But no problem, I'm glad I've finished the race, drove defensively as planned (OK, a bit too much tbh, realistically podium finish was up for grabs, but hey, better luck next time). GTR2 PD installed, no more wrong fuel tactics. Ever. Live and learn. Still, not bad for a 3 full distance offline races + 3 sprint races online history noob. I'll be on my former Geoff Crammonds GP level... soon. ;)  ;D

@FlyBri: yourself and Kerr should listen to my mental waves next time. Was stuck behind you guys whole 1st stint, 2-3 secs behind, enjoying the view and waiting for "oooops, what a mistakata makeata", but somehow it didn't happen. Same thing happened in last laps, simply ran out of time to hunt you down. Perhaps... next time? ;)

Anyway, thanks again for all the racing, I went to bed very happy (Fell asleep 2 hrs later. Adrenalin rush effect  ::) ). Can't wait for Donington.

Perhaps a full race distance (100%, 3 hrs) fun race would be an option with this newly implemented 5 mins restop (I liked it, btw, gives you time to clear your mind plus it's weird, just the way we like it :P )

Gizmo, which group should I start aiming to drive in? Academy or masters (GT only, NGT are... emm...well, you know... slow wheel carts, hihi )?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: John on December 29, 2006, 04:14:55 PM +0000
I think it was me jure who came flying pass you and through the carnage.
Just as the race started, my missus came in and started talking to me.
I totally lost focus of the race as i turned to tell her to bugger off.
When i looked back at the screen cars were spinning all over the place.
And i was heading at them at full pelt.
I thought it was all over.
Then like moses parting the waves a gap appeared so i kept the pedal down.
I then went from 12th to about 5th.
But i had a poor setup because of lack of practice.
And was soon back where i started.
Struggled until i made my last pitstop.
Changed to softs and put in 13minutes worth of fuel.
Came out of the pits in 8th.
And the car felt as if someone had stuck it on rails and put a rocket on its ass.
I was buzzing then cause i had closed the gap between me and the next position by 2 seconds after only completing half a lap on my out lap.
Then just before i got to the second time check my engine gave out.
I was gutted.
Any way great race.
Any thought on another super endurance.

Beholder

By the way jure,sorry if i scared the b-jesus out of you.
At that point you could crack walnuts between my bum cheeks


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Mooman117 on December 29, 2006, 04:32:56 PM +0000
Good race overall. I quite like multi catagory races as you have to be more aware of being lapped and lapping other cars. Only had one minor nudge about lap 20 being lapped by about 4 gt cars don't think it was anyones fault just to many cars and to little track.

I liked the 5 min break gave me a chance to get up and stretch out a bit as my chair isn't to comfy.

Thanks again for the race


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: FlyBri on December 29, 2006, 05:38:41 PM +0000
was it just me (during the 5 min break), but once i had been for me dunnie break, had a stretch etc and was sitting waiting for 5mins to elapse, i kept getting the urge to press escape so i could watch other ppl on the pit monitor. About 3 times i had stop myself from doing it!!!  :laugh:

Would have been pretty gutted if after an hr and a half i escaped!


@Jure, was good, close racing all the way through mate. I just couldnt get past B.Kerr on the 1st stint, which kinda compromised my strategy for rest of race especially against him.....


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Reign Man on December 29, 2006, 05:40:12 PM +0000
I enjoyed that race!  ;D

...except for when I hit a lapping GT car (Sorry Gerald) :-[, then got hit. Other than that a pretty uneventful race.

I was able to overtake  Darren in his RSR on the first lap. Tried to keep up with Gizmo, but after a few laps he found his racing legs and began pull away. After that it was pretty lonely and I attempted to string together some consistant laps. My lap times were all over the place as usual.

Was extremely happy about the 5 min pit stop gave me a chance to rest my hand and flex my fingers as they had began to cramp. I hope this will remain in any future races that may take place, I don't think I would have been able to get to the end without that break. It's hard not to grip the Joystick to tightly when racing. :-\

Took longer than 5 mins to rest up my hand and lost a place to DMN but was able to get that back in the last half of the race.

Apart from being lapped and getting blinded briefly by a blown engine ;) it was pretty quiet second half, even so I still enjoyed it greatly!

I just wished I had the outright pace to keep up with the guys in front.

Oh well! Good race, I hope there will be more

Reign Man


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: popabawa on December 29, 2006, 05:58:36 PM +0000
My apologies for bailling out during qualifying, we had some unexpected guests who I couldn't really avoid by staying online, I thought it'd be better to bail and let someone else get in quickly.

Absolutely gutted, I was really looking forward to that race :'(


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: silver53 on December 29, 2006, 07:12:15 PM +0000
Hi Reignman sorry for braking so hard but was about to total a porsch when I got back into the action my brakes were a bit stressed and as I tried to squeez past you with out spinning it we made contact. Sorry also to the porsch for same reason. Ps did anyone have a really bad warp going through the vale i lost the cars around me and took to the grass. Always a bit of stutter in that area all though the race.cheers gerald ps the saleen was so good on fuel I could have done 2 stops with the fuel load. Shame about rear tyres and brakes. should have stuck to lambo?


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Joss on December 29, 2006, 07:25:23 PM +0000
No you can't, for the same reason we don't discuss them for championship races - we don't want to see the forums descend into finger pointing and flaming. If you have a problem with another driver's on-track behaviour, please submit an incident report as normal so that the moderators can look at it and, if necessary, take action to prevent it happening again.
OK, I understand. But I don't want to submit a report because Minton screwed his own race up with the incident, and it was only a fun race. I don't want him punished, I just wondered what on earth was going on down the straight on lap 1. Thought I'd ask him about it instead of complaining to the mods first because it just seemed pretty odd to me.

Also, there IS NO submit incident report link on the results of this race - this is why I thought you could discuss incidents, as there was no way to submit a report - I thought this was because it was a fun race and so incident reports weren't filed.
Tell me if I've got the wrong end of the stick.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: jan duijs on December 29, 2006, 07:50:04 PM +0000
Fun race,first one with the G25 wheel,boy do i miss the extra buttons ON the wheel,for the rest awsome wheel.Had some nice fights in the first half of the race,after that it became a bit confusing as  it got very unclear what your real position in race was,up to third and then had to go in for 10l of fuel,after that splash and dash the game decided to give me a stop and go (was on the auto limiter!!),got my DQ in lap 63 lol.A pity somebody got itchy when he had to wait 3 turns to lap me,treated me with a punt off and a loss 0f 35 sec ( i was totally unaware of beeing lapped GTR did not warn me and with the new wheel and only two buttons still have to figure out how i can look back and have the tags nice and comfy at hand)
All in all a very enjoyable evening on a great track with high quality drivers,next week another one?? ;D ;D

Jan


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jeffrey on December 29, 2006, 08:13:18 PM +0000
I also have a G25 and I don't miss the buttons. If you want, I can tell you how I set them up.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: D_Nichols on December 29, 2006, 08:37:59 PM +0000

Also, there IS NO submit incident report link on the results of this race - this is why I thought you could discuss incidents, as there was no way to submit a report - I thought this was because it was a fun race and so incident reports weren't filed.
Tell me if I've got the wrong end of the stick.

I would like to know, as sadly I have things that need looking at  :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 29, 2006, 10:31:24 PM +0000
@ Gizmo..when i lapped u last time round i wasnt flashing at you but at Gerald...saying thanks for him giving way in a GT car..coz you seemed to flash me like 5 times (probably out of frustration ;D ;D ;D)

I usually flash if I move over for a faster car to let them know that I've seen them and that I'm not going to suddenly move back over on them.

Also regarding the 5 minute stop....i felt it was a good for a break but i was frustrated as hell sitting there and not knowing what was then unfolding in the race. Very confusing!

It's like that all the time in NGT in Endurance - I never have any real idea where I am in class until the race ends!

Gizmo, which group should I start aiming to drive in? Academy or masters (GT only, NGT are... emm...well, you know... slow wheel carts, hihi )?

Based on you finishing just 25s behind Radius I'd say you need to be in the Masters.

Also, there IS NO submit incident report link on the results of this race - this is why I thought you could discuss incidents, as there was no way to submit a report - I thought this was because it was a fun race and so incident reports weren't filed.

There was a slight technical hitch (actually three, one as a side effect of the recent update to the forum software) but the link is there now. This event is an official non-championship race rather than a fun race.

You can always PM another driver after the race to discuss something if you're unsure whether to submit a report or not. Just avoid getting stuck into anything unpleasant.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Truetom on December 29, 2006, 11:36:23 PM +0000
Gizmo, which group should I start aiming to drive in? Academy or masters (GT only, NGT are... emm...well, you know... slow wheel carts, hihi )?

Put him in NGT masters and make him drive Elise!  That'll teach him to  :-X !  :P ;D
Well done for the first appearance here, Jure!  :yes:

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Radius on December 29, 2006, 11:58:56 PM +0000
Based on you finishing just 25s behind Radius I'd say you need to be in the Masters.

Ahh thas sweet!  :D You see..theres nothing wrong with being nice! :P

From three practicing sessions myself and Jure did, id agree with him being in masters. A good lad  ;)

Seeing as you mentioned 25 secs, i checked the results and theyre waaay off...2nd place driver was 38 secs behind and im pretty sure the rest were lapped  ;) ;D

Jure just needs the race craft to match his speed :P  :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Jure on December 30, 2006, 12:00:40 AM +0000
@Gizmo: That would be 1 lap and 25 secs ;) (would be 25 secs if all went according to plans though  ;D )

Anyway, looking forward to Donington. First testing session of 25 laps got me to 1.27.2 in "race trim with 70L", setup still kind of twichy, but Silverstone is a good basis, perhaps it needs to be a bit more stiff up front. How many race laps are predicted in Donington anyway??  ???

BTW... I luv this game.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Kerr on December 30, 2006, 11:02:08 AM +0000
When is the donnington race?
I'm going to get some practice this time. Only got the silverstone track the night before the race and never had enough practice. Also endurance races are completely new to me and i had no idea what was the best way to tackle it, or how hard to push etc. 


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: pribeiro on December 30, 2006, 12:51:20 PM +0000
Well, it seems that you all had an astonishing, fun and great race :)
Im so sad i couldnt join (began to early for me) :(
I hope join you next one ;)

Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 01, 2007, 02:42:52 PM +0000
Official report (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=295) published. I've been relatively lenient because it was a non-championship race but I have to say I saw some distinctly ungentlemanly conduct in the replay and that's not what SimRacing.org.uk is supposed to be about. :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Mark J on January 01, 2007, 07:11:02 PM +0000
Wow, sounds like i missed an absolute corker of an endurance race  :'( 

Apologies for missing it, i was supposed to fly back from Italy on the 28th until Ryan-b****rd-Air cancelled my flight after i spent around 5 hours at the airport. Couldnt get another flight back for 3 more days as they were all fully booked from all over Northern Italy  ::)...and it cost me another 200 quid for an alternative one way flight...gits.
Got back at 20 minutes before Midnight on New Years Eve...oh yippee, quietist NYE for me since i was 10 :(

..ps Happy New Year all !!  :-*


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: silver53 on January 01, 2007, 07:11:43 PM +0000
Thanks for the report Dave did you see why the cars around me at start of race dissapeared in the vale was I warping.cheers gerald


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 01, 2007, 07:15:34 PM +0000
Thanks for the report Dave did you see why the cars around me at start of race dissapeared in the vale was I warping.cheers gerald

I didn't notice anything specific as the pack headed down the Vale after the first lap incident but I only really looked at your car as it went through Stowe.


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Joss on January 01, 2007, 07:53:46 PM +0000
Oh pants. Shoulda pushed at the end :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: silver53 on January 01, 2007, 08:27:28 PM +0000
Thanks for that Dave hope to see you at seca on the morrow.Am having a go with porsch due to wet.cheers gerald


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: silver53 on January 01, 2007, 08:29:54 PM +0000
Hi Davve just a thought maybe I have not a high enough setting for vis cars will check this.cheers gerald


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 01, 2007, 10:16:09 PM +0000
If anyone wants the replay and hasn't got it yet, please make sure you grab it before the end of Wednesday as it's a big old sucker and I'd like to delete it to free up some space on the website!


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 02, 2007, 10:55:14 AM +0000
Dan Minton has since posted a response to the incident on lap 1 on the Hangar Straight which I will reproduce here as I think it will explain what was going on.

Quote
My steering wheel came off the table and i couldnt steer properly causing me to go on the grass down Hanger straight then touch frequency at Stowe. I was trying to re-attatch it but i should have ESC.

Obviously it's not really desirable to have drivers escaping out of a 2 hour race on lap 1, but in such circumstances a gravel trap should be preferred to the back of another car. :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Super Endurance Non-Championship race - Silverstone - Dec 28
Post by: Joss on January 02, 2007, 12:37:06 PM +0000
That explains the weird happenings down Hangar Straight! :P
Glad that's sorted :)

And someone knows that my nick comes from FreQuency? Blimey!  :o