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After years of us talking about it, we've finally taken the dive back to 1967 and the not-quite-F1 World championship!
We'll be using the GPL67 carset for this, but only the 3l cars - so no Lotus 33 or Matra sadly.

Cars available - GPL67.
Available here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/o719sdx2kohk668/AC%20GPL67%20V2.20.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/o719sdx2kohk668/AC%20GPL67%20V2.20.rar?dl=0)
Drivers must choose their car prior to the season start and then stick with it - please use this thread to state your choice so I can set the server accordingly.

I would like/prefer to field an accurate proportion of cars for this season if possible, although if that seems very unlikely then I'll drop that intention.
Number of cars available if we can stick to the season entries would be as follows:

Lotus = 2 cars
Brabham = 2 cars
BRM = 2 cars (who's brave enough to join me? ;D )
Cooper = 5 cars
Eagle = 2 cars
Ferrari = 3 cars
Honda = 1 car
McLaren = 1x M2b + 1x M5a (the M2b is SLOW - so will not be available in this series)

There will be some BoP'ing based on series run elsewhere, It's not perfect but prevents the series panning out the way that 1967 would have had Lotus not started out with the BRM timed explosive instead of a DFV....

BoP will be as follows:

Lotus & Eagle = 40Kgs
Ferrari           = 30Kgs

There will be no success ballast.


Track listing is as follows, although the exact version/layout is to be announced in a few instances dependant on testing prior to the season kicking off.

 1. Sandown              - https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/sandown-raceway.18702/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/sandown-raceway.18702/)
 2. Interlagos '75        - https://www.mediafire.com/file/rzf85unu4fmweq0/interlagos_1975.zip/file (https://www.mediafire.com/file/rzf85unu4fmweq0/interlagos_1975.zip/file)
 3. Watkins Glen         - https://sellfy.com/f3classictracks/p/watkins-glen-for-assetto-corsa/ (https://sellfy.com/f3classictracks/p/watkins-glen-for-assetto-corsa/)
 4. Pinewood             - https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/pinewood.29825/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/pinewood.29825/)
 5. Salzburgring         - https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/salzburgring.2798/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/salzburgring.2798/)
 6. Fonteny               - https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/fonteny.30137/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/fonteny.30137/)
 7. Hockenheim GP     - https://sellfy.com/f3classictracks/p/fqKN/ (https://sellfy.com/f3classictracks/p/fqKN/)
 8. Goodwood            - https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/goodwood-circuit.17228/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/goodwood-circuit.17228/)
 9. Monza '66            - Stock Kunos
10. Kyalami               - http://www.mediafire.com/file/alyx6l5jyhd7qed/kyalami1967.rar/file (http://www.mediafire.com/file/alyx6l5jyhd7qed/kyalami1967.rar/file)

We will be taking a leaf out of UKGPL's book for the running of this series, so damage and points scoring are as follows:

Approx 50 minute races (distance will be in laps)
100% damage
100% fuel use
0% Tire wear (This is actually far more accurate than the mods' built in wear rate and 'fixes' the BRM)

Drivers must complete 50% of each race to score.
As per the 1967 F1 scoring system, each driver will discard their worst 2 scores when the points are calculated at the end of the season (Done for you in LM2)

More updates will occur to this thread (Including start date) over the next few days as I find time!

Cars allowed & installation instructions:
3l 1967 F1 from the GPL67 mod.
I've put them on dropbox for now as the original download was apparently VERY slow:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o719sdx2kohk668/AC%20GPL67%20V2.20.rar?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/o719sdx2kohk668/AC%20GPL67%20V2.20.rar?dl=0)

You MUST follow these instructions in order to install the mod:

Packs needed:
Dream pack 3 from Steam for the Lotus 33 to work (we're not using it in this series though)
Ferrari DLC from Steam

Installing the Lotus 49 =

You need the original Kunos Lotus 49 install file:

    Extract folders content and texture to your AC install: …\SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\assettocorsa\
    Goto …\SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars\lotus_49
    In this folder: Copy the lotus_49.kn5 file
    Within \cars folder, goto \ gpl67_lotus_49
    Paste lotus_49.kn5 here!

Installing the Ferrari 312 =

You need the Ferrari DLC pack from steam:)

    Extract folders content and texture to your AC install: …\SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\assettocorsa\
    Goto:
    ..\SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars\ ks_ferrari_312_67
    In this folder: Copy the ferrari_312_67.kn5 file
    Within \cars folder, goto \ gpl67_ferrari_312
    Paste ferrari_312_67.kn5 here!


Car choices at present:

Lotus 1     : Bob
Lotus 1.5  : Jukka
Lotus 2     : Lorenzo
Brabham 1 : Syd
Brabham 2 : DrNedrick
BRM 1       : Me
BRM 2       : Kimi
Cooper 1   : Maxime (#17)
Cooper 2   : Jos
Cooper 3   : Jari
Cooper 4   :
Cooper 5   :
Eagle 1     : Stefan
Eagle 2     : Max
Ferrari 1    : GoldTop
Ferrari 2    : MJ
Ferrari 3    :Barone
Honda       : Fabri (1st choice)
McLaren M5a : Manteos

Me, however, like you wrote in SRO forum, BMW series run at same time so no idea hows things figure out....hope I can find time to do both.

Maybe I will go with the Honda (or a BRM)...

I'll reserve a brabham.

100% damage  :eek:

Ferrari here please.

I'd like McLaren M5a or Brabham to try something different

I think I drove the Eagle last time and it was nice. So put me down for one of the Eagles for now.

Ferrari for me please

Tim, can you post a link to the version of Sandown we'll be using so I can try the car/track combo?

I've added the link in the 1st post - will hopefully work through the other 'confirmed' venues tonight also

Is the car(s) a mod or is this one of the ones you get with the game? If it's a mod, do you have a download link to it?

I tried this out yesterday and wondered if it would be the version you had planned. Unfortunately I'm getting big fps drops in several places around the track (30 vs my usual 90+) and generally the visuals are awful with aliasing of power lines, blurring of track boundary lines and shadow crawls on the barriers. Looks like a bad GTR2 conversion which is a shame because I always liked the track in GTR2  :(

I've added that now too - needed to find the link...


GT, are you sure the FPS drops aren't anything else? I've had this for years with no issues, even on the old rig.
(don't remember the gfx being that bad either)

I've added the full installation instructions for those who don't have the mod, and also updated the grid, currently everyone has their 1st choice.
Hopefully we can fill that grid as opposed to gaining a further 10 Ferrari's or something ;D

I wonder if it's one of the content manager patches  :-\  I tried starting from the stock AC launcher but then the game just crashes. Maybe other CM users can try.

I always launch AC through the stock exe - you shouldn't need to fire up CM except when modifying files, it edits and appends stuff when it's running and then has very little else to do with AC.
Something's been changed by the sound of it.

I've also found an (unofficial) update for Sandown I'm going to try after work, I'm going to see if it matters whether you had the update or not to connect to the server - that's meant to improve the kurbs and some of the distance effects. It has an updated VAO so if your issues are CM it might fix that too

I can leave that server up for a few days with the cars before loading next weeks test race @ Hockenheim

Scratch Sandown  :( < Unscratch that scratch - see further down, this was my own fault)
I've just tried it am am getting the same issues - adding the patch from RD helped but it's dropping the Rift down to it's 'safe mode' 45FPS.

Tempted to just run Silverstone and save on the air fare

No please!

Why don't we go at Rouen? It's much more funny and rewarding to drive, even if I'll throw the car out of track at some point :D

Because it's $6 - I'd love to run it but recon people would be too tight to cough up. A bit like the recent Zandvort round over at SRO that missed several driver who wouldn't pay for it.

If I get enough people saying yes then I'll be more than happy to use it as it's a great track :)

Link for those who don't know it: https://sellfy.com/f3classictracks/p/rouen-for-assetto-corsa/ (https://sellfy.com/f3classictracks/p/rouen-for-assetto-corsa/)

i thought there was already a good version of Rouen thats free? I've been using it for years and seem to remember it was done to a high enough standard. We have used it here often in the past  ??? Having said that, i dont mind paying for a top notch version either.  :)

Not chosen a car yet, hoping to join the series but wondering if it clashes with my current P-Cup series on a weds night. Is there a start date yet? Managed to break the cable to my wheel a few days ago so not done any laps in anything  :'(

Re the carset, is it same set of cars we have used previously? so i can try a few out and pick a car, or do i need to re-download the GP67 car set? (didnt know if its a newer version)

initial thought is i'll take a Brabham, but not tried these cars for months.

Exactly the same cars as at Zolder last year :)
You were there and in a Brabham too, so should be good to go :yes:

The Sergio Rouen is a very accurate build of the GPL Rouen as opposed to the other version that was built on the modern day roads that make/made up the course.
Even if the GPL version was less accurate you'll struggle to find many GPL'ers who prefer other versions (Same applies to the GPLEA Clermont Ferrand Vs any other version - personally speaking, it's probably my favourite Sim track ever made)

I might check the 'modern' Rouen for FPS, but am suddenly having a fair few issues myself. I'm starting to think it's a recent graphics driver update (or Oculus ::) ) causing people all these issues...

Haven't updated my nvidia driver for a while so I don't think that was the cause of my problems at Sandown and my fps problems at Hockenheimring are known issues, in fact I just had a reply from Sergio saying he plans to update hock and some other tracks but can't give a time frame. Watkins Glen has already been updated and looks/runs better than before.

Sergio's Rouen is superb, much better layouts and road feel than the free version that most of us have run in the past which I think was a rough VLM GTR2 conversion. My vote (if there is one) goes for Sergio's track.

Meant to say, would be very cool if someone  ;) could put up a how to drive video on some of these cars giving us mortals a few hints on technique and setup. Might want to start with the Ferrari  ;D

I've just found the root of my FPS problems (plus the reason AC stopped working properly in Oculus mode).
Turns out it's nothing to do with CM or CSP or even my GFX drivers - I'd left my reflections settings on Max at some point in the past and forgotten to turn them back down :hammer:

My 1070 has more than enough grunt to laugh at AC in Max detail on a monitor, but add VR into the mix and the frankly insane calculations required for super HiFi body reflections from a constantly moving POV simply cooks my GFX card (it was running at 100% load from the moment I loaded into the car in the pits!)
I've turned it down to medium quality and refresh and now get a rock solid 90FPS (Oculus cap) everywhere and can even use Oculus mode in AC for the 1st time in about 6 months and record in-car VR footage again.

With that in mind check all your GFX settings GT - Fabri has checked Sandown for me as he races on a potato ( :ninja: ) and says it seems fine at his end so I think you're possibly asking too much from your kit like I was, probably without even realising ( also like I was ::) )

There is a graphical update to Sandown available below for you lot to try while it's still running on the server. It doesn't affect compatibility online at all but does make things look a little nicer - Sandown is an interesting challenge in these cars when things stop juddering long enough to figure out where you're going!
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/upgrade-pack-for-sandown-raceway.36709/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/upgrade-pack-for-sandown-raceway.36709/)

I've just recorded 2 laps of Rouen in the BRM on a setup taken from another track - it's scruffy as a result but I might go out of my way to pick a simpler circuit to do a demo on once I've made a setup :)

https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/rouenlesessarts-extralong-rtb-revisited-2017.11991/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/rouenlesessarts-extralong-rtb-revisited-2017.11991/)

I raced recently in an italian GPL69 champ on this free version of Rouen and it was really good. As expected I had to pit a couple of times to repair my car and see the checkered flag  ;D

Didn't try Sundown yet. Provided there won't be issues for the other drivers, I guess it's better to race on it. You decide ;)

I bought it last weekend, easily worth 6 dolla, just for the GPL flashback...  Sergio makes great tracks though of course.   Did a few laps in lotus / ferrari / eagle and its great to drive in these cars, no shock there though ;D



gah, I chose the red machine because it was clearly the slowest of the cars I tried at Rouen..    I can swap to the lotus though  :P

Beware there has been another Oculus driver update today, that usually causes me grief in one way or another! and i also had an Nvidia GFX update yesterday. With my shiny new 3x32" screens i'm wondering if i can bin my Rift for a while.  :-\ The screens are wider than my real car so its a life-size windscreen view  :o  only tried them in ACC so far and they are mega  8)

Try it in a BRM with the 'correct' gearbox - I.e. on your left with a mirrored gear order.
It's mind blowing when in VR - I'd really love to know the logic in the left hand, mirrored gearboxes. Presumably it was a problem generated by the 16 cylinder brick :D

5  3  1

6  4  2  R

Regarding Sandown - If Fabri can run it ok then I would suggest it's fine for all. My own problems as mentioned above turned out to be my own fault..

Mark, the old Rift doesn't seem to get many updates anymore - which is perfect as it means they've stopped buggering it up!

Best put me in a Lotus.  :thumbup2: Sandown runs 90fps in Quest2 :thumbup1:

Thanks Bob - It didn't make sense to me when Sandown could barely crack 50 for me given it's quite old and basic compared to more recent stuff.
Hopefully GT can have a tinker and see if he's done something as silly as I did.

I've thrown a quick video of Rouen together from the perspective of one of BRM's victims:

https://youtu.be/uFZMZ19cgHs (https://youtu.be/uFZMZ19cgHs)

I was running the GPL take on the gearbox (Which I believe is accurate) with it mirrored and to my left - I only included the engine implosion in the vid, but I can assure you the out-takes would be much longer than the flying lap if I had included all the misses and spins the damn thing has caused me! :D

I'll put a thread up as this is a payware track and you lot can vote on whether we race there or stick to Sandown - the vote can stay active for 2 weeks as the season should start on the 12th May (we have 2 tracks that need checking and I'll then be away on the week of the 3rd thru 9th of May, so it makes sense to wait as I can't run the series from Cornwall on my phone!)

Vote can be found here: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=25041.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=25041.0)

I managed to get Sandown running better by completely turning off shadows. It's still not great but I can experiment turning some other things off just for this round. Strange as I can max out most of my settings on other tracks which are much more demanding.

Might be worth testing Hockenheimring sometime as the trees there are a known issue, not sure if removing the offending file would cause a mismatch  :-\

It'll be tested after Watkins :)
There are other versions of the old layout, but again Sergio's is the best for what we are driving. Out of curiosity what are your reflection settings?
I'm able to completely max out my shadows when I reduce reflection quality, this might be that reflections are more GPU intensive than shadows in VR - or they might just be the main culprit.
Either way I notice the difference from a quality perspective when I reduce shadows, but the game still looks nice with reflections reduced

I run reflection settings at 1024 but I have them static as I find them distracting. Opponent cars just look too flat without them so I find this a decent visual compromise. I believe reflections are pretty costly.

Hello guys,

I'm going to pick a Cooper please, and I think that you can reserve another one for Jos. He's likely to confirm this very soon.
What about the skins then ?

I'm only planning on using the skins from the mod (another reason to prefer correct team/car numbers!) - If you want a particular number then just shout!

Ok, I'd like the Siffert's #17 plz.

Hi guys, hope you're all fine.
I may be interested in doing some races but not all the champ. There will be "free cars" for people to use or should I reserve a car anyway?
tks

Hi Barone,
we have 18 cars before we start doubling up so you should be fine.
But due to the way the car allocation works in AC the easiest options would be that you either choose something in advance, or message me prior to each race you want to take part in so I can tell you what cars should be free :)

Ok, I'll take a Ferrari then.
But since I'll do just 2-3 races probably if someone wants to take it for the all event then go ahead. I'll take whatever is available.
Don't want to "steal" a slot for someone interested in the all championship :)

Round one is now up.
Given that the end result of the Poll was 50-50 I've stuck with Sandown. It's a historic circuit the the drivers (if not these actual cars) all raced on in the period and we don't need to worry about people missing the race due to not wanting to buy the track.

You guys are seriously missing out though - I've spent longer messing about on that in the GPL cars than on anything else lately it's that good :P

Anyway the date for your diaries for kick-off is the 12th of May :)

Hi all!

I'll take the Lotus if possible.

Cheers

Lorenzo

You're added on the list Lorenzo - welcome on board :)

I've been doing some admin and have now populated all the track download links - for those of you who are unfamiliar with Fonteny I recommend you get it and do some practice well in advance. I did my first laps today and and after about 4 laps when I started to get my bearings I have to say it's amazing in these cars 8)

This is what you get for saying Brno was too hard  ;) :D

By the way Tim, shouldn't we make some advertising towards some sro drivers or something in order to better fill the grid ?

I mean, this series should be a blast for sure, and the more clean & fair drivers always the better !  :D :angel:

SRO will just delete it if I do, they're very strange in that way - I've tried asking before and always told no

Yeah I know this, sorry I didn't tell but, why not by PMs? They allow this afaik thankfully !  ::) ;D

Hello All

Noob here, but this seems amazing! Can I have a Brabham if one is available?

Really excited for this!

N

Hello and welcome aboard, Tim is in charge/organising the series but he's in holidays this week.
I assume you'll be able to get a Brabham. Do you have the Ferrari DLC pack which is required for this mod ?

Try asking some pilot you know via PM. Jukka could probably be interested.
I can ask too.

Who are you talking to Fab ? Me ? Because unfortunately Tim went in holidays and it's not 100% sure he will be able to make those PMs... or will be willing to spend some holiday time to.  ;)
Let's wait a day or two to see if he bounces on the idea.  ::)

Ok, Maxime. Eventually I can send some PM too.

Sorry,  but I'm going to have to skip this series  :(.

I really wanted to do it as the old cars are just the best fun,  but I have some eye issues which mean no more sim racing until its sorted...

Hope you get this sorted well, sorry to hear. Do you use VR ? Is it related ? :blink:

Well, Tim doens't seem to be active, so I guess we could handle this for him. Let me know if you want me to PM some drivers.

The more will be the better, of course, but in this case I think it's even more true as the series is set up with 100% damage, I'm very happy about that, but some races might end with very few drivers kept alive..  ;D It's going to be a much more realistic series : if one makes a contact with something, it's very likely that it's the end for him.

Cooper #3 to me please.

Been to the doctor and the optician and I have a bacterial infection on my face and in the eyes, so a lot of the time my vision is blurred. I did use VR, and it might be connected - possibly my fault for not cleaning the VR headset enough, IDK, but its a bit of a coincidence that I used VR a lot early this year and this happened (and I dont know where else it came from)...

I'd still love to do this series but I just cant commit to the hours needed right now - really hoping I can continue with SRO ACC season as I did 2 good races so far, but not sure on that as i paid a price for it this week with even worse dry/blurry eyes.


BTW VR going in the bin, bought a lovely 55" OLED 4k 120hz tv instead a few weeks ago when I suspected VR was the problem.



Anyway, please let someone else who will do all the races take my ferrari seat,  if the infection clears up before the season is over I will jump in any spare car if there is one!

I'm sorry, Max. A friend of mine had a similar problem with contact lenses years ago and after a few months he was cured.
I hope you recover soon and maybe use a screen for a while


PS: I sent PMs to some people.

Hello all - sorry for the long term silence but have been staying without phone signal or effective WiFi at the bottom of a valley deep in Cornwall ;D

I've added Jari and DrNedrick in the list - if you can PM me your Steam ID for AC DrNedrick that will allow me to assign a car to you in the server files on race day.
Welcome aboard and I hope you enjoy yourself :)

I've also just spotted Max's comment - I hope you get well soon :(

For what it's worth I doubt it's the VR, I've practically lived in mine when on the gaming rig since 2018 and the worse complaint I have is that it's trying to encourage a line of thinning hair where the central strap runs over me head :D

Just got message from Fabri about this series. Not sure can I manage to put it in my calendar but if I do would it be possible to drive Lotus 49? Is it the same mod version we used earlier on SRO? Quite busy and not sure if I can manage to do difficult installs before wednesday. I didn´t see server... what name should it be able to be found?

EDIT: I did found the server and could get in so maybe I have correct mod version installed?

Jukka Drugg

Sorry to hear Max, and interesting, as i have suffered from constant watering eyes recently, which causes me a bit of blurred vision, which optician told me is more likely dry eyes causing it, and is most likely from all the VR use ontop of daily CAD/3D work.   :(
Hence one of the reasons i upgraded my triples to a set of shiny 32's a short while back. Was using them just for ACC endurance to save my eyes but now switched over in AC too as a trial run. Must say with 32's i get a lovely FOV and see more detail like brake marker readings!  ;D  A lot easier on the eyes for sure, but do miss a bit of immersion in open seaters especially.

@Tim, sorry i havent been able to commit to this new series, was hoping it wasnt starting for a couple of weeks as im just finishing up another PCGB Porsche cup season (still two rounds to go) and they clash on wedsnesday eves. I'll hopefully join in a bit later. I'll try a Cooper and an Eagle out later as they are only cars with slots left.

just tried them, they look amazing on the 32's  :o the detail for the exhausts, engine and gearbox's is great! as the screens are so big its pretty much lifesize and looks spectacular, felt like an extra in GrandPrix  ;D

Didnt like the Eagle cockpit much so i'll take a Cooper unless that other Ferrari is going spare?

Unless Max changes his mind (I noticed he was racing in ACC last week/weekend) then his Ferrari is going free :)


Hi Jukka - I believe the mod is still the same as when we last raced at SRO. If you could join the server I'd say that proves it.

I know you tend to stick with the Lotus as you don't really do setups, but is there any chance you could take a Cooper or Eagle to fill out the grid more?
If it's an absolute no then I'll add you in a Lotus instead :)

I tried Cooper and Eagle but they feel wrong for me so if I can have that Lotus I would be happy. My kids are on my place on wednesday and if they wake up mid race it will be race done for me so would like to enjoy driving my favourite car when I have this possible DNF around the corner. Since both skins are taken I would really much like to drive with great Jim Clark´s car if they are assigned on this series.

Was there something else I need to do to enter this series or is this post enough. So long time I raced here previously

Nope - I've got your steam ID from previous races so you're all good  :)
Once I figure out which of the 2 cars was Clarks I'll give you one of those

I want to do the races as I love the older cars but lately I have many days where my vision is just bad and my eyes are drier than the sahara (and the eye drops barely help). The optician did assure me that using the PC etc is fine and wont do any harm, its just a case of how well I can see LOL...


I'm fine with Mark taking the fezza though ,  sign me up with that spare Eagle to give you realistic grid and I'll do as many races as I can, just dont be surprised if I decide very late if I'm doing any particular race

Will do  :thumbup1:

This is literally my first rodeo!
What time? How does it work? Where do we meet?

Sorry for Noobing!
(I have been driving, have all the DLC etc etc, I'm a noob for online racing!)

oh yeah!

Race times and server password can be found in the race topic  https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=25211

To find the server go in the online section of AC, let it load the server list then search for  "org.uk"  and you should see simracing.org.uk f1 67 or similar, join it!

Welcome ! :D :thumbup2: