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Title: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Nappe1 on May 13, 2021, 07:56:25 PM +0100
NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2021
Melbourne twin race event
17th of May, 2021

Return to the roots, after 10 years.



Server & Car Pack Info
- Server Name: NG Legacy HTC Server
- Password: will be revealed in normal UKGTL fashion.
- Car pack version: 1.1


1st Race
Track: Melbourne Albert Park, Australia.
Track download: *DOWNLOAD* (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ip1z4tC1Mze5CgOxDcYRNxRvPkzI9bTo/view?usp=sharing)
Allowed Classes: Division 1 classes.
  • 700 - 850 cc
  • 850 - 1000 cc


Qualifying: 15 minutes, starts at 19:45 GMT.
Race: Length 11 laps, starts at approx. 20:00 GMT.
Scoring:
  • Both classes score points separately. Winner of each class receives 10 points, 2nd in each class receives 8 points and so on and so forth.
  • Overall winner of the race scores additional 1 point.
  • Start in a class where driver has not started yet in this season, scores automatically 3 additional points.
  • Note that you can start maximum of 5 times in each engine class.


2nd Race
Track: Melbourne Albert Park, Australia.
Track download: Same as in race 1.
Allowed Classes: Division 2 classes.
  • 1000 - 1300cc.
  • 1300 - 1600cc.

Qualifying: 15 minutes, starts earliest 20:35 GMT.
Race: Length 11 laps.
Scoring:

  • Both classes score points separately. Winner of each class receives 10 points, 2nd in each class receives 8 points and so on and so forth.
  • Overall winner of the race scores additional 1 point.
  • Start in a class where driver has not started yet in this season, scores automatically 3 additional points.
  • Note that you can start maximum of 5 times in each engine class.


Other
- Championship main thread, with calendar, cars, classes and other info: click here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=24772.msg476432#msg476432)
- Championship standings table: click here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1231&theme=5)


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Nappe1 on May 13, 2021, 08:21:01 PM +0100
NG Legacy HTC Server is now online with practice password.


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Geoffers on May 14, 2021, 04:47:33 PM +0100
Maybe nothing, but doing a few laps practice in the Mini 1000 at Albert Park, I had a game CTD after 7 or 8 laps. Probably just a hiccup but maybe worth checking.


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 14, 2021, 06:10:44 PM +0100
I think that I have done about the same but had no issues.


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: fpolicardi on May 15, 2021, 12:58:29 AM +0100
I think that I have done about the same but had no issues.
Same here with TC850 and GTJr.


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Robby82 on May 15, 2021, 05:34:54 AM +0100
Hi guys,
I am trying to get some .svm files for Monday's race. If any of you have setup files for the Ford Escort 1.0 and/or the Ford Escort 1200 please either PM me or at the addy in my profile.
Thank you
Robby82GTL


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Geoffers on May 15, 2021, 09:16:07 AM +0100
I think that I have done about the same but had no issues.
Same here with TC850 and GTJr.
I think that I have done about the same but had no issues.

Ok, as I thought, just a hiccup on my PC. Will have another test later to see if it recurs.


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 15, 2021, 11:48:41 AM +0100
Lasse, server is showing 2x Fuel usage. Maybe it needs a kick.


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 15, 2021, 11:53:12 AM +0100
Hi guys,
I am trying to get some .svm files for Monday's race. If any of you have setup files for the Ford Escort 1.0 and/or the Ford Escort 1200 please either PM me or at the addy in my profile.
Thank you
Robby82GTL
I'll pm you a couple of links. BTW there is no Escort 1200. You mean, I think, the BD and the 1300 GT or the TC


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Nappe1 on May 15, 2021, 12:40:30 PM +0100
Lasse, server is showing 2x Fuel usage. Maybe it needs a kick.
I will boot it as soon as I am back home, unfortunately that happens not until tomorrow.

Updating server from win 10 home to win 10 pro to allow remote mangement is in my to do list. :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 15, 2021, 12:44:11 PM +0100
Lasse, server is showing 2x Fuel usage. Maybe it needs a kick.
I will boot it as soon as I am back home, unfortunately that happens not until tomorrow.

Updating server from win 10 home to win 10 pro to allow remote mangement is in my to do list. :)
can you not use mstsc.exe with any Windows version?


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Nappe1 on May 16, 2021, 01:36:18 PM +0100
NG Legacy HTC Server is now online with race password. :)

Lasse, server is showing 2x Fuel usage. Maybe it needs a kick.
I will boot it as soon as I am back home, unfortunately that happens not until tomorrow.

Updating server from win 10 home to win 10 pro to allow remote mangement is in my to do list. :)
can you not use mstsc.exe with any Windows version?

The client works in any version, but you need Pro to enable the server side. There's some hacks make the server available in Home too, but with those you get more or less crippled version. And I need some other Pro only stuff in server in some point so I will do it in any case. :)



Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Daz9 on May 16, 2021, 10:48:21 PM +0100
Maybe nothing, but doing a few laps practice in the Mini 1000 at Albert Park, I had a game CTD after 7 or 8 laps. Probably just a hiccup but maybe worth checking.

Had the same with an NSU and an Alfa......


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Nappe1 on May 17, 2021, 06:41:21 AM +0100
Maybe nothing, but doing a few laps practice in the Mini 1000 at Albert Park, I had a game CTD after 7 or 8 laps. Probably just a hiccup but maybe worth checking.

Had the same with an NSU and an Alfa......

This calls for a track version change. I have older version in my hdd, which we will use for the race as it has worked nicely ten years ago. Hopefully I have enough time in lunch break to upload it and update the race invitations. If problems still continue when event is going, we'll change this one non-championship event afterwards.


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Daz9 on May 17, 2021, 11:27:17 AM +0100
To be totally fair, it isn't the first track I have had this though Lasse, so may be something in my install.....It worked fine in Open Practise mode, but would crash out in qualifying when in race mode with all of the Div 1 and 2 cars selected.


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 17, 2021, 11:50:24 AM +0100
I've done 10 laps in an offline race, but with only my car on track so maybe that's not a fair test?


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Geoffers on May 17, 2021, 11:59:29 AM +0100
I have tried it since I first posted about a CTD & did not have any more problems. Did around 10 laps in both the 1000 & 1275 Minis without any glitches.


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Daz9 on May 17, 2021, 12:13:57 PM +0100
Did around 10 laps in both the 1000 & 1275 Minis

Well, that was a surprise to read...... ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Nappe1 on May 17, 2021, 02:20:43 PM +0100
If you do off line testing, make sure that you do private testing.
I have more than once found that AI might cause crashes even though the track is rock solid in online races.

As the race is so close and I did not have time to make the changes in lunch break, We race on track as originally planned.

So, race invitation is OK. No Changes coming.



Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 17, 2021, 06:09:04 PM +0100
Not showing in the lobby, or is it me?


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: nocatu on May 17, 2021, 06:21:56 PM +0100
I'm a bit busy with work today so I won't be able to make it, I'll see you next time.


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: MichaW on May 17, 2021, 06:31:59 PM +0100
did a lobby restart, should be working now

cheers micha


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on May 17, 2021, 06:57:43 PM +0100
Thanks Micha, it's working now.


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Daz9 on May 17, 2021, 09:49:49 PM +0100
Good racing tonight, Albert Park is usually good fun to be fair.....

Race 1 in the Sunbeam, had to be really on it to take pole, but blew an even quicker lap right at the end....Was enough though, but Manfred was closer than practise by a long way so knew it would be full on.

And so it proved, I did get a gap up to 4 seconds or so at one point, but a bit of traffic along with a couple of average laps meant he was only 1.8 behind as we crossed the line going onto the last lap. I put together my best 2 sectors 1 & 2 on the final lap and that was good enough to hold him off.

Escort 1300 for race 2, and although it went quite well in quali I was a good way off the pace Geoff had, so had a nagging suspicion things might be hard work in the race.

Good start, but not as good as Dan who rocketed off the line in the NSU. Nevertheless, I was now 4th, and was content to follow Dan and Geoff if they were going to go fast enough. They got together a little in turn 1 though, and I could go through the middle with my momentum as my corner was clean, but I think I nudged Geoff on the way, sorry Geoff. As recompense I didn't fight him at all when he zoomed up behind, it was almost like he was in the higher class, so I knew I was slow.

Then Manfred ate up the time to be right on my tail. He was a lot quicker in certain sections of the track, and I realised the gearing on my car was wrong. Nothing to do other than defend, and I held him off for around 5 laps or so, but eventually he had enough of an overlap down the inside that he couldn't be held back, and I couldn't stay with him. Acceleration was the difference off the corners, so the gearing needs to be shorter I believe, ah well. Immediately Nappe was closing in fast, and I had more defending to do, and probably only took 4th as he got a Stop and Go at the end.

Good nights racing, well done to all.


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Dimitar Dulichki on May 17, 2021, 10:08:52 PM +0100
Apologies to Kurt for the bump at T1. From live i thought he didn't left me space but after watching the replay i can tell that it's more my fault here.

I think  got it all wrong tonight. :D I went with slower car in Race 1 and faster in Race 2 and more of the driver done it the other way :D I had no information that the gaps between the classes in Race 1 are bigger by a mile that the Race 2 gaps so...

But at least i got the maximum - 8th in Race 1 and 1st in Race 2, so i will be around 1st place in general standings once again.

On my live stream we watch both replays and it was great races - congrats guys. :)

Congrats on Daz for winning Race 1.

Racing weekend with camera and commentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lJYtkr1O3U


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 17, 2021, 11:31:30 PM +0100
Results and replays now posted.

Please let me know if you spot an error.

Disregard any incident reports you may find in your pm inbox (unless it actually details an incident that is).


Title: Re: UKGTL Legacy NoGrip 2021 Event 5: Melbourne Twin Race - May 17
Post by: SpecialKS on May 18, 2021, 07:04:40 AM +0100
Apologies to Kurt for the bump at T1. From live i thought he didn't left me space but after watching the replay i can tell that it's more my fault here.

No problem Dimitar - simply didn't see you coming in my rear mirror and I think I was already hampering you before when I wanted to avoid the slow starting Mini of Geoffers.

Not the first time I slaughtered the NSU TTS's engine  ::) :P - looks like a certain weakiness regarding this.

Used these races to gain more experience with the NSUs, especially the 1200TT.

Like this track driving these small ones  :)

Result_Race 1 (https://gtl-gtr2-racing.lima-city.de/_2021/17052021_NGLHTC_Event5_Melbourne_R1)

Result_Race 2 (https://gtl-gtr2-racing.lima-city.de/_2021/17052021_NGLHTC_Event5_Melbourne_R2)

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