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Title: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on May 20, 2021, 12:50:12 PM +0100
Rather than clutter up the race threads with discussion about RaceRoom's Weekly Ranked Enduros, I thought it would be better to start a dedicated thread on the subject.

So next weeks event, Porsche GT3 Cup & BMW 235i Cup at Hockenheim looks tempting. Anyone else interested?


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: azaris on May 20, 2021, 07:36:49 PM +0100
I'll try to do the 1h GTR3 race at Laguna Seca on Tuesday.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on May 21, 2021, 08:52:02 AM +0100
Rather than clutter up the race threads with discussion about RaceRoom's Weekly Ranked Enduros, I thought it would be better to start a dedicated thread on the subject.

Indeed, seperate thread for the Ranked servers, so we can maybe race together as a team.

So next weeks event, Porsche GT3 Cup & BMW 235i Cup at Hockenheim looks tempting. Anyone else interested?

Not really intrested, and enough work at home to do  ;D


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on May 21, 2021, 02:46:51 PM +0100
Video of the P2 & GTR2 race at Mid-Ohio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_hD3d4_Sls


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: frex on May 22, 2021, 11:52:54 AM +0100
I did a few races on the Rookie servers some months ago, but this was when there was some kind of bug that prevented race results and Rep increases being recorded - hence my Reputation still sits at zero. Been thinking about having another go at it however - how long does it take to build up enough Rep to get into the ranked servers?


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on May 22, 2021, 12:23:55 PM +0100
Your reputation must be more than zero Frex, I seem to remember that you start at 70. A fairly clean race will probably net you a couple of reputation points at that level, the higher your rep gets the less it increases, although a race with a lot of incidents will see a significant drop. Whatever you do, do not quit a race that loses you a mountain of rep points & rating points. If you cannot continue in a race due to damage or suchlike it is better to just esc to the pits & wait for the race to finish.

Check here to find what rating & rep you need to join each server.
https://game.raceroom.com/multiplayer-rating/

I can recommend the Wednesday enduros, I have done 3 up to now, 2 gold & 1 silver & have not encountered one bad driver so far. I completed last Wednesdays race with just 2 incident points, everyone drove fast but fairly. In contrast I took in an NSU race at Zandvoort last week & accumulated over 30 incident points in 15 minutes, it was like bumper cars!


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: frex on May 22, 2021, 12:50:08 PM +0100
Your reputation must be more than zero Frex, I seem to remember that you start at 70.

Ah ok I didn't realise that. I know you need around 80ish Rep for the ranked servers, but assumed I was starting from zero and it would take ages to build up, which was putting me off. But if it starts at 70, that sounds much better.

A fairly clean race will probably net you a couple of reputation points at that level, the higher your rep gets the less it increases, although a race with a lot of incidents will see a significant drop. Whatever you do, do not quit a race that loses you a mountain of rep points & rating points. If you cannot continue in a race due to damage or suchlike it is better to just esc to the pits & wait for the race to finish.

OK thanks, good to know. I'll see if I can start building up my Rep over the weekend. The few races I did before were surprisingly good, even on the Rookie server..


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: azaris on May 26, 2021, 10:42:29 AM +0100
I'll try to do the 1h GTR3 race at Laguna Seca on Tuesday.

Laguna Seca with the GTR3 isn't the easiest race it seems. Started mid-pack in a full field of 30 cars, got rear-ended after a few laps which caused some suspension damage. Car was driveable but I didn't have much confidence in it. After the pit stop I spun on the exit of turn 2, broke the front aero and wasted a lot of time getting it turned around safely. Rest of the race was trying to keep it together and avoid the lead lap cars zooming past then parking it in the middle of the Corkscrew. Dragged it home in P16 and gained some rating points at least (tough field).

Good luck with the 90 minute race Geoff.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on May 26, 2021, 03:19:27 PM +0100
Cheers Toni, I will most likely be using the BMW even though it is 10s per lap slower than the Porsche.

At least you gained a few rating points last night even if it was not too good a race.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on May 26, 2021, 08:36:05 PM +0100
 :thumbup1:  Toni,

And succes Geoff.

Question how works the GT3/GT4 adac competition? Is this also a qualification for a race. And hopefully not only for the top30, but with multiple servers.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on May 26, 2021, 09:02:41 PM +0100

Question how works the GT3/GT4 adac competition? Is this also a qualification for a race. And hopefully not only for the top30, but with multiple servers.

Sadly only the top 32 qualify for the races I believe, just the one server. It gives details if you go to leaderboard.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on May 27, 2021, 09:56:57 AM +0100
Not the best of races at Hockenheim. 26 drivers, 11 in BMWs, qualified 3rd of the Bimmers, should have been 4th but the quickest guy either left or got discoed during qually.

Had a lonely race for the most part running 3rd for nearly an hour only enlivened by being lapped by the Porsches. By then the 4th place guy had found some pace & had nearly caught me, so rather than fight & slow us both down & decided to pit for a splash of fuel, mistake!  ::)  Firstly it transpired that I probably could have completed the race without refuelling which some of the BMWs did & secondly I once again got a pit speeding penalty.

Not sure why I keep getting caught for speeding but I suspect the limiter can allow you to exceed the limit when you accelerate away from your pit, just going over the speed before arresting it. Of the BMWs that did pit I think only one did not get a penalty. Anyway eventually came home 5th BMW just failing to catch the 4th place guy before the flag came out.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: frex on May 27, 2021, 10:48:44 AM +0100
Not sure why I keep getting caught for speeding but I suspect the limiter can allow you to exceed the limit when you accelerate away from your pit, just going over the speed before arresting it.

Bad luck Geoff. Something in the pit limiter coding was changed in the December update to prevent it being used as an exploit to gain an advantage in rolling starts, and this has led to the pit limiter being much more sensitive and more likely to trigger a penalty. Current recommendation is to use the limiter in second gear, not first, to prevent constantly bouncing off of it, maybe that helps.

Side note - got my Rep up over 80 within 3 races, so will try and join some more ranked races now.



Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: azaris on May 27, 2021, 11:32:46 AM +0100
Next week's endurance race is DTM 2020 + GTR3 at Suzuka (90 minutes). I'll probably just be doing some sprint races in the CUPRA, kinda bored with GTR3 at the moment and definitely not touching the DTM 92 again until something changes. They're also trying oval racing with the FR US.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on May 27, 2021, 12:09:34 PM +0100
Next week's endurance race is DTM 2020 + GTR3 at Suzuka (90 minutes). I'll probably just be doing some sprint races in the CUPRA, kinda bored with GTR3 at the moment and definitely not touching the DTM 92 again until something changes. They're also trying oval racing with the FR US.

Yeh, not so interested in that one, not a fan of those DTM cars. May try a GTR3 if I can get somewhere near the pace, otherwise it is back to GT Legends next Wednesday.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on May 28, 2021, 12:12:59 PM +0100
Out of curiosity I gave the DTM Audi a run around Suzuka. Best leaderboard lap is a 1.46, some 14s faster than the GTR3s best. So I thought I would be happy if I could get within a couple of seconds of that. First attempts with basically default setup were well off the pace, 1.53-1.54s, where am I losing 7-8s ???. Tried a challenge against a guy in the 1.49s to see where I was going wrong & clearly the default setup is far too understeery, I just was not able to do the early Esses section at his speed. So tried some setup adjustments & found the one thing that made the biggest difference was to lower the front ride height, that instantly reduced the understeer & gained a couple of seconds. Eventually got down to 1.50, so still a couple of seconds away from where I would like to be. However keeping this thing on the track for 90mins is never going to happen.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: azaris on June 03, 2021, 11:57:30 AM +0100
Next week's endurance race is 2.4h of Nordschleife with the GTR3. Predictable given the real life race is this weekend. Other highlights include a couple of races at a new track, Valersbanen, including one with the NSU TTS.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: phspok on June 03, 2021, 12:02:14 PM +0100
We will do doing Valersbanen in our new NSU series  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on June 04, 2021, 04:55:38 PM +0100
Next week's endurance race is 2.4h of Nordschleife with the GTR3. Predictable given the real life race is this weekend.

Tried the Mercedes AMG for a couple of laps & got an 8.32 which is probably not quick enough for the gold server yet, probably need to be around 8.20 to be competitive I reckon. Anyone else planning on trying this? I probably would not have been interested but with GT Legends screwed on my PC at present I need something to do on Wednesday!!! ;D


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: azaris on June 10, 2021, 10:47:26 AM +0100
They finally released Brno on RaceRoom and it's next week's 90 min endurance race (GTR3 only). Might need to pick this one up and maybe try the new AMG EVO as well.

The rest of the schedule has too much Hockenheim for my tastes.  ::)


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on June 10, 2021, 12:42:38 PM +0100
Always liked Brno, so will certainly be purchasing that later.

I did not take part in the Nords race last even though I had prepared for it & eventually managed to get under 8.20 with the AMG. Reasons, first it was a lovely evening & seemed a shame to spend it indoors & secondly my PC had decided to download & install a Win10 update, so let it carry on.

As some of you may know I have been having problems since the last Logitech update with GT Legends not starting & on a couple of occasions RRE being reluctant to run. So I have bit the bullet & ordered one of the new Fanatec CSL DD wheelbases & Clubsport R300 wheel & decided to retire the G29. Only problem is it won't arrive until November!


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: azaris on June 17, 2021, 12:27:27 PM +0100
I tried a bunch of different cars at Brno but they all understeered like crazy so I skipped the race.  ???

No enduro next week because supposedly the new FFB is coming out. Tonight is probably the last time I touch R3E until the FFB gets an update. Here's hoping nothing breaks in the process and people who find the current FFB objectionable will experience an improvement.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on July 08, 2021, 03:35:16 PM +0100
Group 5 at Salzburgring next week, could be interested in that one! ;)


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on July 19, 2021, 12:05:23 PM +0100
Anyone taking I this week's race at Monza? I will be having a run in the 911, more chance of reaching the finish than in the Audi.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on September 21, 2021, 07:32:49 AM +0100
Anyone doing the enduro NSU Zandvoort race? Good training for thursday   :)


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on September 21, 2021, 10:21:38 AM +0100
Anyone doing the enduro NSU Zandvoort race? Good training for thursday   :)

Don't know yet, I am spoilt for choice on Wednesdays, the RRE Enduro or the AC or GTL races here.  ???


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Daz9 on September 21, 2021, 10:42:15 AM +0100
Not done one yet, but could be tempted by this. Fixed setup or free? What is a decent laptime?


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on September 21, 2021, 10:47:04 AM +0100
Not done one yet, but could be tempted by this. Fixed setup or free? What is a decent laptime?

I think it is free setup, normally is for the enduros. No idea on laptime, I will try a few laps later & let you know. Which server are you guys eligible for?


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on September 21, 2021, 05:33:22 PM +0100
Well the best leaderboard time is 1.27.2, I got down to a 1.27.9 eventually, with a potential best of 1.27.7.

So I will give this one a go but not sure which server to go for, gold or silver  ???


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on September 21, 2021, 07:27:31 PM +0100
Easy brons, normally silver, gold is very difficult due to rating.

Mostly a 1,5 seconds of the pace. Depending on riding in group or not.

Tried a 30min AI race with 3x fuel-tires. AI did 2 stops, me only 1 with a refuel of 25l and front tire change. At the end front left was at 15%. maybe a 2 stopper possible for another front tire change )only downside is that a tire change is quit long in the NSU.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on September 21, 2021, 07:51:18 PM +0100
Not tested the tyres & fuel yet. Was that with the soft tyres?


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Daz9 on September 22, 2021, 12:08:21 AM +0100
Is this the short version of Zandvoort? Did an couple of races on their the other night on the public server stuff, think the best lap I recorded was a 1.28.1, but with locked setup I believe.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on September 22, 2021, 09:07:09 AM +0100
Is this the short version of Zandvoort? Did an couple of races on their the other night on the public server stuff, think the best lap I recorded was a 1.28.1, but with locked setup I believe.

National layout is the middle one, although it is not much longer than the short Club layout.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on September 22, 2021, 09:38:53 AM +0100
Not tested the tyres & fuel yet. Was that with the soft tyres?

HARD tyres, but on 3x. Will test this evening on 1x before the race.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on September 22, 2021, 06:18:15 PM +0100
Coming 1,5 points to short for silver  >:(     1548,5pts ??? ???     will be bronse server for me  :-\


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on September 22, 2021, 06:28:56 PM +0100
Coming 1,5 points to short for silver  >:(     1548,5pts ??? ???     will be bronse server for me  :-\

Ok Birger, have fun.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Daz9 on September 22, 2021, 09:36:12 PM +0100
I didn't realise it was a 7.30 start, was barely home by then...


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on September 23, 2021, 06:06:54 AM +0100
Coming 1,5 points to short for silver  >:(     1548,5pts ??? ???     will be bronse server for me  :-\

Ok Birger, have fun.


30 drivers at the grid, starting in P4. Leader was too fast but after him we where battling with 4 drivers for P2. When the pit window opened leader was coming in before half way for soft tires. So he was on a 2 stopper what put him behind and never made it back to the front.

After 50min i did my pitstop (at the front new hard's). Was doubting about that, because crewchief told me that a lot of drivers switched to the softs. 2nd part of the race was a battle for the lead with 4 cars. With 4 laps to go i went to the lead, because P1 was struggling with his softs, in the chicane a backmarker pushed me in the back and rear right suspension was gone  >:( and so was also the victory.

Nursed the car home the remaining 4 laps. Had a 25sec lead to P5, and the finish had 8sec towards P5.


So fun and close race for the lead, only in bronse server the backmarkers are not consistent and not watching there rear and side mirrors. 


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on September 23, 2021, 09:01:47 AM +0100
I didn't realise it was a 7.30 start, was barely home by then...

Yeh the Enduro races start at 7.20 & you need to be on the server before qually at 7.00.

Real bad luck there Birger having a win taken away like that. When I joined the lobby I saw that the bronze server was full but only one driver on the silver, so joined the gold where we had 14 starters.

The first two drivers were in a different class lapping in the 1.26s, I was in the next group & qualified 7th. Race turned out to be a fairly lonely affair, I could not quite stay with the group ahead of me & ran 7th for most of the first part of the race. I decided to take a risk & not change tyres & it worked out well. Was up to 4th after the stops were completed & only had one guy catch & pass me before the finish, so well pleased with 5th place.  ;D


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on October 24, 2021, 12:52:31 PM +0100
will there be anyone who will compete for the DTM95 endurance in Hockenheim?


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on October 24, 2021, 01:18:56 PM +0100
will there be anyone who will compete for the DTM95 endurance in Hockenheim?

I was tempted, but I will probably be doing the GTL race here on Wednesday. Let us know how you get on if you take part.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on October 28, 2021, 12:06:07 PM +0100
will there be anyone who will compete for the DTM95 endurance in Hockenheim?

I was tempted, but I will probably be doing the GTL race here on Wednesday. Let us know how you get on if you take part.

For the first time i was able to race in the Silver server (indeed Geoff, not that big of a grid in silver, i think RRE need to make the points gap between brons and gold bigger).

In silver i noticed that during qualifing everything was much closer together, and qualified mid pack. Had a good start and moved up towards P5, after some laps we pulled away with 5 cars. During the first stint i was still in doubt to do a 2 stopper (Med/Med/Soft) or a 1stopper (Med/Med), but after some laps in P5 and just following the cars in the lead, i was sure to do 45min on the mediums.

During the first stint the leader spinned so 4 cars left in the lead group, and due to mistakes after 30min i moved towards P2. Then in the hairpin i was almost torpedoed by a divebomb of P4. And went of the throttle and let P3/4 pass to again lift and coast behind the 3 leaders.

Just before the 1 stopper pit window our divebomber went off track and so we remained with 3 car's in the lead group.

Not sure what happened during the pit stops, but i was surprised after the pit stops i was in the lead with a 6sec gap towards my earlier group. I think due to not pushing the car in the first stint i saved some fuel, so i could shorten the duration of the fueling.

Up to the last 25min, the gap stayed at 6sec. But P3 was at that moment attacking P2. So was already happy, because i thought they would lose time. But the opposite was true, P2 pulled away and increased his pace (0.7sec faster than me). With 15min on the clock P2 was on my bumper, and needed to defend in each braking spot for 3 laps. Until at the corner exit of T2, he went to early on the throttle and spinned.

Directly moved the TC level up, to bring the car home in P1.


 :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: first time in silver server, and first win in a weekly enduro  :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:

There where 3 cars aprox 1sec faster than me, and 3 cars 0.5sec than me. But stayed clean for the full 90min (only 2 times going wide at T1).

Slow but consistent  ;D, and didn't fight during the first stint.



Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on October 28, 2021, 12:50:07 PM +0100
Excellent result Birger, well done.  :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 11, 2021, 12:25:49 PM +0000
Anyone up for next weeks 2 hours of Road America? I will be taking the GTR2 Corvette out for a run I think.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 11, 2021, 03:46:55 PM +0000
Was thinking today about this race, due to the first time a 2hr race. Not liking the track  ;D

Now well in silver points (gold will be not possible).


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 12, 2021, 10:13:00 AM +0000
Now well in silver points (gold will be not possible).

Correction  ;D, after 1 ranked 15min GTR2/P2 race i gained so much points (only 2k + drivers where in front of me). I gained already half of my points up to gold territory. So gold maybe possible (1 race with same result and i`m in gold)


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 12, 2021, 02:12:17 PM +0000
Anyone up for next weeks 2 hours of Road America? I will be taking the GTR2 Corvette out for a run I think.

Copy, did already 2 race's with the GTR2 Corvette (for the moment a little bit understeery). Do you have setup's?

Problems:
- little bit understeery
- Left Front in the caroussel and the kink are extermely hot
- I think with this tire's there need to be a quali and race setup? never did that before.

Mediums are +/- 2sec slower. Tire wear on the soft's is max 30min, hards is +/- 40min



Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 12, 2021, 02:48:41 PM +0000
I don't have a setup for Road America yet, I do have one for the last enduro I did with the Corvette at Mid Ohio. Not sure how it will work for this race, but if you would like it I can email it to you. Is the email address on your profile page still OK?


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 13, 2021, 03:34:24 PM +0000
I don't have a setup for Road America yet, I do have one for the last enduro I did with the Corvette at Mid Ohio. Not sure how it will work for this race, but if you would like it I can email it to you. Is the email address on your profile page still OK?

yep, still okay


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: phspok on November 13, 2021, 03:39:06 PM +0000
I joined a couple of (I thought) newbie ranked events last night, but although there were a few decent drivers
the races were a crash fest. Are there particular events I should be joining?


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 13, 2021, 06:38:32 PM +0000
I joined a couple of (I thought) newbie ranked events last night, but although there were a few decent drivers
the races were a crash fest. Are there particular events I should be joining?

Strange,

The training server for the event is the 15min race just above the rookie server. I did already 3 race`s  with minor or no problems. (not during evening hours, only with 10/15 drivers)

Only in Race 1 at the start there was a major spin in the P2 grid, so the GTR2`s need to avoid it.
clean Race 2
Race 3 i was battleing with an other driver (that did some semi divebombs). In the background i saw an earlier crashed P2 gaining on us, i let the P2 through but by contender didn`t noticed it and they both hit each other (good for me, i gained a spot  ;D)

So no big problems, i see only problems when the P2 guys will lap us (but that`s a problem for wednesday, not for the 15min race`s)


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 13, 2021, 06:43:22 PM +0000
I don't have a setup for Road America yet, I do have one for the last enduro I did with the Corvette at Mid Ohio. Not sure how it will work for this race, but if you would like it I can email it to you. Is the email address on your profile page still OK?

Thx, Geoff

Was surprised and confused when i upload your setup, i thought RRE didn`t changed the setup. Only after a few minute`s i realised that we did for 90% the same changes  ;D ;D ;D

Only in gear ratio i only moved 3/4/5/6th one click down and not the final + 5/6th another click down (in the 15min race`s you hit the limiter, need to do a full gas tank stint).

Thx


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 13, 2021, 07:10:45 PM +0000
I joined a couple of (I thought) newbie ranked events last night, but although there were a few decent drivers
the races were a crash fest. Are there particular events I should be joining?

I don't know how much ranked racing you have done Matt, but you are limited to the rookie servers until you have a reputation score above 75. Above 75 you can access some of the other servers where the racing is cleaner, the remaining servers require a reputation above 80 or 85. Your rating is irrelevant for accessing the other servers, just reputation, so the best plan if you are limited to the rookie servers is to try as hard as you can to avoid trouble. So don't worry too much about where you finish, just concentrate on driving clean & avoiding the idiots then you can race in the better behaved servers.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 13, 2021, 07:19:38 PM +0000
I don't have a setup for Road America yet, I do have one for the last enduro I did with the Corvette at Mid Ohio. Not sure how it will work for this race, but if you would like it I can email it to you. Is the email address on your profile page still OK?

Thx, Geoff

Was surprised and confused when i upload your setup, i thought RRE didn`t changed the setup. Only after a few minute`s i realised that we did for 90% the same changes  ;D ;D ;D

Only in gear ratio i only moved 3/4/5/6th one click down and not the final + 5/6th another click down (in the 15min race`s you hit the limiter, need to do a full gas tank stint).

Thx

Hehe, funny we had pretty much the same setup. I will give your gearing a try, hopefully it will be quicker. I managed 2.05.5 with mine on a full tank of fuel, there is still a bit more time to find & with low fuel I reckon a 2.03 is possible.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: phspok on November 13, 2021, 07:39:55 PM +0000
Thanks Geoff

I did a couple of event today with some good clean drivers
I don't know my ranking or reputation, I tried to avoid cuts, but had a few.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 13, 2021, 07:44:43 PM +0000

I don't know my ranking or reputation

Ranked multiplayer on your profile page in game.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: spanner on November 13, 2021, 07:52:20 PM +0000
Errr no, in game it doesnt say, anymore. It used to display it when you clicked on the server to show the details but i dont think i've seen that.

Which is why i have no idea on safety rating or reputation other than looking on the website.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 14, 2021, 09:09:51 AM +0000
I see you came 2nd in GTR2 in this race Birger.  :clap:

https://youtu.be/A5GLuv0vOAU

The other guys at the front of the GTR2 class were all from SCB who I have recently been racing with on Sundays since it went to AC only here.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 14, 2021, 11:42:00 AM +0000
I see you came 2nd in GTR2 in this race Birger.  :clap:

https://youtu.be/A5GLuv0vOAU

The other guys at the front of the GTR2 class were all from SCB who I have recently been racing with on Sundays since it went to AC only here.

Thx for the link Geoff, hahaha the pronuncanation of my name  ;D.


@Geoff, due to my 3 good race`s in the GTR2 i`m now able to join gold server.

@Martin will you join for the 2 hr race on wednesday? We are also able to join bronse server`s, normally it`s not that difficult to get out of rookie and be above 75reputation


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 14, 2021, 03:08:25 PM +0000
Errr no, in game it doesnt say, anymore. It used to display it when you clicked on the server to show the details but i dont think i've seen that.

Which is why i have no idea on safety rating or reputation other than looking on the website.

Errr yes, main menu in game, click on Portal then at the top Ranked Multiplayer & it will show your ranked races along with Rating & Reputation. Well it does on mine anyway.  :P


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 14, 2021, 03:09:49 PM +0000

Thx for the link Geoff, hahaha the pronuncanation of my name  ;D.

How do you pronounce it?


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 14, 2021, 04:50:44 PM +0000

Thx for the link Geoff, hahaha the pronuncanation of my name  ;D.

How do you pronounce it?

The pronouncination was in fact pretty close  ;), only the english dialect on a flemish name was funny to hear  ;D


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: phspok on November 14, 2021, 05:15:17 PM +0000
How many ways can you pronounce "Biriri"
Birger can't be that hard.... and Meysman looks doable

I guess it's all in the accent  ;D

I might Birger, But I usually do GTL Wednesdays.

I am able to join non Rookie servers now, and am working my way through the cars
I like the Ferri best, but even with reduced wing it lacks top speed.
I am getting low 2:06 in the Vette and Pork, 2:07 in the Ferri and Beemer.

My Rating is currently - 1512.33
Reputation is -  88.239
 


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 14, 2021, 05:48:24 PM +0000
Do you want to try my setup for the Vette Matt? I have tweaked it a bit since I sent it to Birger & have got a 2.03.8 with low fuel, about a second slower on a full tank. Looks like the soft tyres will do 40 minutes, so a two stop race.

If you could get your rating up to 1550 you could enter the silver race, otherwise it will be bronze. But often the silver is quite sparsely populated compared to the gold & bronze.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: spanner on November 14, 2021, 06:39:55 PM +0000
Errr no, in game it doesnt say, anymore. It used to display it when you clicked on the server to show the details but i dont think i've seen that.

Which is why i have no idea on safety rating or reputation other than looking on the website.

Errr yes, main menu in game, click on Portal then at the top Ranked Multiplayer & it will show your ranked races along with Rating & Reputation. Well it does on mine anyway.  :P


The portal takes out of the game to their website.... I meant on the multiplayer server listing when i'm choosing a server, when i want to know what i can or can't join.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 14, 2021, 06:52:51 PM +0000
Mmm, OK obviously different to mine then.  ???


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: phspok on November 14, 2021, 07:07:06 PM +0000
I just set it to events I am allowed/enabled, or similar words


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: phspok on November 14, 2021, 10:08:34 PM +0000
Just managed 2:05.8
Sure I would like to try your setup please.

Rating now 1531, Reputation has dropped a bit to 81, as I fell off a few times...  ::)


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 15, 2021, 12:33:59 PM +0000
From my side:

Quali pace (SOFT/40L) +/- 2:04.25

Race pace (HARD/75L)  +/- 2:06.25

Currently my strategy is to start om (H/H/90L), first pitstop (H/no rear or S on the rear + 80% of fuel), second pitstop (S/S + remaining fuel)


PS: you can send me the setup to in case of majr change`s  ::) but i think the basic setup with some tweaks on the wing and gear ratio is already good.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 16, 2021, 04:27:12 PM +0000
I have tried a tyre test 40min race against the AI using the soft tyres & the softs will indeed last for 40mins, so I will go with the softs for the race & change them at each stop. I was doing mid to low 2.04s early in the race but the times dropped off by 1-1.5s by the end of the 40mins.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: phspok on November 16, 2021, 10:00:24 PM +0000
Tried your setup thanks Geoff, but I am a second slower with it than my own concoction.
My rating is now 1582, Reputation has crept up to 81.9

So, can I join the Silver surfer? is that what you guys are doing?

Do I need to apply for anything?


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 16, 2021, 11:39:22 PM +0000
Yep, you are ok for silver (1550/80). Not sure which server I will be in, depends on numbers of drivers.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: phspok on November 17, 2021, 08:17:50 AM +0000
Ok, I have been running in some non rookie servers with some quick people
there's a chap called D De Grassi, who is seconds faster than I can do
Also there seem to be a lot of quick BMWs, doing times that I am miles off
in a beemer. I lucked in last night with two of them who were slightly faster
and both got past as I was stuck behind someone else, but then they collided
so I got two places back. I would rather run the Ferri for a distance event
but it is too slow on the straights with the min wing I can cope with, but it's great
fun leaving people behind in the corners. I did one race with hard tyres, and I was
maybe a second slower. The left front melts on the Vette, particularly in the Carousel
but the wear doesn't seem too bad. How long is the race? you reckon two stops?
is that because you would run out of fuel, or the tyres are shot? Is one stop
with hard tyres an option? So little time, so many questions. I haven't really been
thinking of doing the event, I have just been having some fun, but as I have the
rating and reputation I will do it, if I can get back from work in time.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 17, 2021, 09:02:41 AM +0000
Race is 2 hours. In the Corvette it is not possible to do a one stopper, it needs two for fuel so makes sense to change tyres too, in fact necessary with softs.

Don't worry about the quick guys, they will be in the gold server if they turn up. De Grassi is top of the leaderboard if I remember correctly with a low 2.02, that's over a second faster than I can manage. Go with what you are comfortable with & can keep on track, that is more important than outright speed. As you are just into the silver category, you are almost guaranteed to increase your rating as long as you finish.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: phspok on November 17, 2021, 01:18:41 PM +0000
I see that practice start at 18:30 UK time. 30 mins practice?
then qual and then race. So can you join in Qual, and do we know
what time the race actually starts?

Sorry for the questions, but I am having to work in Manchester office this week
and may struggle to get back for 19:00


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 17, 2021, 01:22:13 PM +0000
Not sure if you can join during qually, you can't on normal ranked races. Qually is 20mins so race start is around 7.20ish.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 17, 2021, 04:01:53 PM +0000
Not sure if you can join during qually, you can't on normal ranked races. Qually is 20mins so race start is around 7.20ish.

I don`t think so, in previous race`s you see some guys hopping from silver to gold or bronse (but only in practice).

18:30 UK timing Practice
19:00 Quali
19:20 Race

(some minutes delay is possible due to prac and quali cooldown screens)



After 40min i`m already in orange on the left front (HARD)  :( :( :(

Only reason maybe is that i run on 30% TC (maybe higher TC level wil help, will see). For the momemt H --> H --> S

Did a 60min AI race (but with the wear on x2). Is that accurate if you bring it down towards a real time 120min race?

Is it possible to run and legal to run with HARD on the front and SOFT on the rear? Did one run on it but didn`t see any change in lap time, compared to the hard lap time. Only tire life will be the same.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 17, 2021, 05:34:58 PM +0000
I don't think it's possible on the setup screen, but pit presets seem to allow it. Not sure if it actually works though.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 17, 2021, 06:27:14 PM +0000
I don't think it's possible on the setup screen, but pit presets seem to allow it. Not sure if it actually works though.

Indeed for the start it works, but during pit stop only one choice

Gold or silver?


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 17, 2021, 06:40:25 PM +0000
I am in silver


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 18, 2021, 09:05:12 AM +0000
Sorry I missed your last two messages Birger, I was already in game waiting to join. I went with the gold server.

There were 20 drivers in gold, 10 from each class. I qualified 7th in the GTR2 class & had a great battle with two other guys for 4th for the first 30mins. Got to the front of the group & succeeded in pulling away & started to catch the 3rd place man. After the first stops I was still 4th but now losing ground to 3rd place & had a lonely run through to the second pitstops.
Early in the final stint I caught the 3rd place guy recovering from a spin & a few laps later he tangled with a P2 car & spun & I was up to 3rd. But now a guy who had spin early in the race was catching both of us & he moved into 4th & with 10mins to go he had caught me. 7mins left & I braked too late for the final turn & went off onto the grass & both of them passed me, they were just that bit quicker over the remaining laps so had to be content with 5th place.

How did your race go? And did you race Matt?


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 18, 2021, 12:15:17 PM +0000

How did your race go? And did you race Matt?

No worries Geoff, I joined first Silver because i knew that Martin could only join silver, after some minutes i saw Matt joining my server so i remained in it (otherwise i would have switched towards Gold)

Race went well for me, our server was also 10 P2 drivers (around 5 to 7 finishers) and +/- 18 GT drivers (around 13 finishers).

Qualified in P2 and started on the HARD tire. Pole was deffinitly on soft's and was already on the straight away of us. For the first 2 laps i hold up the pack because i was on the hard tire. After 2 laps i lost 2 place's but regained those positions (first one was after 3/4 corners in the gravel, second one had a crash during mid race and retired the car).

The pack was close in the first stint i only pulled 4sec away before the SOFT runners did there pitstops, so i took the lead until my pitstop and regained in 2nd position. After that i didn't loose any time anymore to the leader (+/- 14/16 sec). And was also 15 sec ahead of P3. Remained until race end. On the last stint on the SOFT gained on the leader and finished second, 11sec after the leader.

So race leader, was only faster because he did a S/H/S strategy (some drivers behind me had also this strategy, but i held some 4 laps up and after that it was no problem anymore). So i think the H/H/S strategy worked (two times soft was also possible, but 3 times soft seemed to be impossible to me)


Matt qualified 10th, and in the first stint slowly moved forwards (was always 10sec behind me). I think Matt had problems with the pitstops, because during the second stint, i saw Matt showing up on my relative (i was driving 10sec behind him to lap him, but didn't catched him, he was even a few tenths faster). Finished 10th


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: phspok on November 20, 2021, 10:53:23 AM +0000
I was doing ok in the 1st part, I could see Birger up the road 2 or 3 cars in front
He was pulling away slowly, but the people I was with were very polite and there were
no dive bombers. All went well until the pitstops, where, as usual, I messed up.

1st prob was pull off the track onto the little slip road before the pit entrance, and had a speeding in the pits
drive through  :o and I hadn't got to the pits yet! Then while messing with the pit board to say yes, which it seems you
don't need to do, I managed to turn off replace rears, so went round again and did the drive through at 0.2 MPH
just to make sure.... Then I might have got yet another drive through in stop 2, and ended up not last, but way back


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: phspok on November 20, 2021, 11:04:31 AM +0000
Macau with big cars? I love Macau, but that hairpin  :o


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 20, 2021, 12:08:31 PM +0000
Macau with big cars? I love Macau, but that hairpin  :o


Not a fan of Macau, too many walls!  ;D  Also I'm not very quick in GT3s, just cannot get them to go fast. So it will be a choice between GTL or AC here this week, tempted to try the AC race, Porsche 718RS at Bridgehampton.



Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 21, 2021, 01:00:28 PM +0000
I always wanted to do a Macau race. So i`m thinking about participation on wednesday.


Did 1 race in the F3:
Difficult to do the Melco hairpin (full steer lock, and raised front ride height). During the turn you need to push the throttle, to spin a little the rear of the car. I`m 90% able to make the hairpin, and only in 10% of the cases without incident point (so i will almost always slightly hit the barrier).

Friday at 18:00 did 1 race, during prac and quali i was able to set a time together with 2 other drivers, but with 5min on the clock everyone quit the race (so no race  :()


Today i did the GT3 race:
If you reduce enough your speed, it is easy to do the Melco hairpin. I`m now even reducing the max steer lock (because i experienced understeer during all other turns).

Race was fun (only 5 drivers), Starting on pole, but need to train my starts, lost a place. But regained it at the Melco hairpin.




Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: phspok on November 21, 2021, 01:32:26 PM +0000
I have increased lock, and had a few goes, but so far have only got round Melco once
without hitting something however slow and carefull I am. I will try again in the week
but so far I won't be doing the event on Weds.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 22, 2021, 11:29:21 AM +0000
I have increased lock, and had a few goes, but so far have only got round Melco once
without hitting something however slow and carefull I am. I will try again in the week
but so far I won't be doing the event on Weds.

I'm driving the McLaren, you need to drive towards the yellow Bus Stop marking to the left of the track (thats my turn in point), and then turn right at full lock. To early and you hit the barrier in the middle.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 22, 2021, 03:21:01 PM +0000
Not Enduro's but I took the plunge on Sunday afternoon and had a couple of good races in the Rookie NSU's races at Brands Hatch. Will definitely have a go at them again.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: phspok on November 22, 2021, 05:49:45 PM +0000
I generally would do GTL on Weds, but if it's something that looks appealing I might do a R3E Enduro.
I will have another go at Melco, I was in the Z4 because I thought it to be the narrowest car  ;D


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 24, 2021, 09:58:15 AM +0000
If you will use the Porsche then is than help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb88ULgF1TY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb88ULgF1TY)

The australian's did already their enduro race, en DDF racer shows at the start of the stream always his setup.


R2 is a full reversed grid  :blink: :w00t: reversed grid at Macau

EDIT: it is only the first 10 place's :)


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: phspok on November 24, 2021, 12:18:02 PM +0000
I think Geoff did a Macau event once, and it was a queue of traffic waiting for people to clear Melco  ::)


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: spanner on November 24, 2021, 12:27:48 PM +0000
We have raced Macau here a few times


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on November 24, 2021, 12:34:07 PM +0000
I think Geoff did a Macau event once, and it was a queue of traffic waiting for people to clear Melco  ::)


Yeh, report here (ignore the Shanghai bit in the thread title), it was the final round of the Cupra series last year.

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=18892.60


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: picnic on November 24, 2021, 04:21:43 PM +0000
I've raced 2 Macau events here, NSU and a WTCC double header


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on November 25, 2021, 10:37:38 AM +0000
First time on gold server, and live broadcast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KbBdG-fbOQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KbBdG-fbOQ)
F3 race's at the start of the stream, GT3 starts at 01h30 in to the stream

Had the live broadcast on my smartphone open so could listen to the commentary during race (sometimes helped, when there where crashes ahead).

During practice (01:34:00 and 01:48:30) i knew that i had chosen the wrong car  ;D. I saw an orange McLaren so picked that one (thinking about the Stoffel times in F1)

Quali
Was the slowest of all, 28th. Only one driver with no time.

Race 1
Started at the back, surprisingly there was no crash at Lisboa corner  :o with 29car's going through at the same time. At Melco i needed to wait for 10sec  ;D but was slowly gaining some place's. Most of them due to cars in the barrier, but did also some overtake's (mostly at the straight towards Lisboa). At the end finished 17th (26 finishers)

Race 2
Started 17th so i couldn't do it slowly the start  ;D. At Lisboa i saw that one of the car's ahead was oversteering. So was already planning to be on the right side of the road. At the exit there was indeed a pile up on the left side and just managed as last car to squeeze through. And moved up to P12.

Afterwards the first eleven drivers where faster and pulled away from me. And i held all fast drivers up  ;D (02:32:00)

At one moment i saw a gap of 3sec opening at P14, so at the straight i slowed down so that first Komorowksi and then Berera could pass me, and i could follow again some car's. (02:33:00)

Some laps later due to overdriving of the car (i was driving with drivers that where faster than me (02:36:45)) i made some wall hits. And the suspension and steering of the car was broken. Other driver's did already a pitstop and decided to nurse the car home (had 1min lead to the first repaired car).

Finished 16th (20 finishers)


Race 1 was much better and cleaner than race 2, main reason was my good start in race 2 that ruined my race  ;D ;D, due to not been able to follow top15 drivers.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on December 27, 2021, 03:50:04 PM +0000
Is there intrest in some oval racing on wednesday enduro? Did some training with mixed results (lost a lot of rating and reputation  ;D)


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on December 27, 2021, 04:00:09 PM +0000
Is there intrest in some oval racing on wednesday enduro?

Sorry, not this week Birger, I am doing the GTL race here on Wednesday.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on January 10, 2022, 12:55:52 PM +0000
Ranked Enduros have now moved to Saturdays. 2.4hrs of Dubai for GTR3 & WTCR/TC Cup this coming Saturday.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on January 11, 2022, 02:52:50 PM +0000
Ranked Enduros have now moved to Saturdays. 2.4hrs of Dubai for GTR3 & WTCR/TC Cup this coming Saturday.

Indeed the Enduro`s are now on Saturday, maybe better for SROUK (because Wednesday is i think GTL or AC day).

Will not participate for this one, but if a good enduro pop`s up i will give a yell :)

Now also participating in the Monday ACR GT4 championship https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1259350379 (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1259350379) my race (GT4) begins at 1:55:00. Very close racing for 25min long for P9 up to P15/16 (sometimes not more than a sec apart with 5/7 cars)


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on January 14, 2022, 05:35:23 PM +0000
Probably going to give the Dubai race a go in the WTCR class.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on January 27, 2022, 03:39:52 PM +0000
Anyone participating in the 2.4hr Daytona race this saturday.

I will pass i think, to busy and this weekend IRL daytona + world championships cyclocross.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: Geoffers on January 27, 2022, 04:46:59 PM +0000
Anyone participating in the 2.4hr Daytona race this saturday.

I will pass i think, to busy and this weekend IRL daytona + world championships cyclocross.

No, stupid scheduling to put it on at the same time as the real race, in my opinion. Not sure it was a good idea to switch the Enduros to the weekend, may work OK this time of year but big mistake in the summer months I feel.


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: BiriBiri on May 28, 2022, 05:23:53 PM +0100
Anyone participating next Friday 03/06, in the 2.4hr Nordshleife?


Title: Re: RaceRoom Ranked Enduros
Post by: picnic on May 29, 2022, 10:30:00 AM +0100
I'd like the challenge of the track but I'm not sure I could do a 2.4hr race :( Probably wouldn't qualify either as I've very rarely ventured anywhere near the official servers.