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Title: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 30, 2006, 07:56:01 PM +0000
Practice 1:20:00(15 mins)full time drivers only
Practice 2:20:15(15 mins)reserves may join too
Qual 2:20:30(25 mins)
Race:20:55(80 mins)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT, G2 or NGT from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.2 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) (see this thread (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2228.0)) (G2 cars will not score points).
Weather: to be decided just before the race based on real-world weather according to the Endurance rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=42).
Track: Donington GP 2004
Race Start Time 14:00
Pit Stops: All drivers must make a minimum of one pit stop. This must involve entering the pit lane at the speed limit, and coming to a complete standstill in the designated pit box. Tyres do not have to be changed and no fuel has to be added. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Endurance Masters
Password: here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2324)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=33).
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers should remember that they get only two free changes of car in each series.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Mark J on January 05, 2007, 04:38:25 PM +0000
Just checking...is the date right for this?  I see the academy endurance has the 14th as its date  ???

Kinda hoping its next week as will get no time to practise between now and the race  :'(


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: picnic on January 05, 2007, 05:37:19 PM +0000
I think it's been mentioned elsewhere but we've split the weeks the Masters and Academy Endurance race runs due the disappearing car problems caused when the server compresses the replay. So yes, Masters this w/e and Academy the next. Sprints remain as before due to the smaller size of the replay files.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 05, 2007, 06:48:40 PM +0000
The announcement post (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2544.0)...


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Truetom on January 05, 2007, 10:14:13 PM +0000
Did we define now if Academy can join Masters and vice-versa? If so, in what cars? G3 ?
Or any and do not score points?

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Mark J on January 06, 2007, 08:57:40 AM +0000
Thanks Picnic and Dave. I missed the announcement as i was out of the country for a couple of weeks.

So was there a decision made on what people started talking about in the announcement? ie as TT says above.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 06, 2007, 11:35:57 AM +0000
I was hoping to get the first race of this year out of the way first to see if the full time reshuffle and a few new drivers would bolster grid numbers up a little first. We're not 100% keen on Academy drivers running in the Masters in G2 or G3 (or indeed scoring classes) in case they end up as mobile chicanes. If we end up with a fair number of spaces free in the Masters race then we will probably allow Masters into the Academy race in G2 or G3 cars and look again at what we do with the Masters race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Truetom on January 06, 2007, 11:51:16 AM +0000
Ok. Just asked as I remember it was great in the begining when the server and race was totaly full. Better feeling than if 10 racers have a go.

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Paul Richards on January 07, 2007, 07:37:35 PM +0000
Is the lobby down? First time I have had any problems!!


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: purdie on January 07, 2007, 07:53:04 PM +0000
yeah its down, i was anxious to say as this is now the third place its mention! lol


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Paul Richards on January 07, 2007, 07:56:07 PM +0000
Hi andy

I hope it is back up soon but def by Tuesday so that you can get your top spot back in the championship!

Will keep trying........

Glad to know it is not just me...

Cheers m8


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 07, 2007, 07:56:44 PM +0000
BeRacing have postponed their GT race, which was due to start a couple of hours ago. I'll try again in a few minutes but if it's still down we'll have to postpone I'm afraid. :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Simon Gymer on January 07, 2007, 07:58:35 PM +0000
Does make you wonder why they force even Direct IP connections to use the lobby. Oh well that's just the way the cookie crumbles.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Mark J on January 07, 2007, 08:03:02 PM +0000
lobby is up !  I'm in


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: LEUVEN on January 07, 2007, 08:04:27 PM +0000
Does make you wonder why they force even Direct IP connections to use the lobby. Oh well that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

I think it may be like Racemore.........If people slag them off then they can pull the plug whenever they want to and there'll be nothing we can do about it.
Having the online side always going through the lobby will mean if Simbin can't take the stick for messing up, then they can get their own back by stopping us using their game. >:(


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: LEUVEN on January 07, 2007, 08:05:40 PM +0000
lobby is up !  I'm in

I take back everything bad I said about them now. :lol:


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 07, 2007, 08:11:16 PM +0000
Lobby came back about 5 minutes after the event was due to start so I shortened the length of Practice 1 by 5 minutes and set it off.

I thought it would be wet but the current weather at East Midlands is dry you lucky sods. :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: mo on January 07, 2007, 09:30:34 PM +0000
Well it was a short race for me that's for sure,  my pc froze completely after only a few laps.
It was good while it lasted though, battling with Leuven and Paul and having a really enjoyable race when picture just froze and sound went into a loop.
Hope my parked car didn't cause mayhem, although I',m not optimistic because it happened in the middle of the Craner Curves with a car right behind :(

Hopefully be there again in the Vertigo on Tuesday for the sprint


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: popabawa on January 07, 2007, 10:06:49 PM +0000
I managed to blow up my engine for the 2nd race in succession :'(

I have no idea how you got the Vertigo round there so quickly Mo!  :o


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Kerr on January 07, 2007, 10:32:42 PM +0000
When i made my pit stop on lap 31 someone was already in my bay. I had to sit and wait for ages until his pitstop was complete and that ruined my race completely. Any idea why that happened?


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Martin Steinmetz on January 07, 2007, 10:34:21 PM +0000
Dunno what to say, don't think i ever caused so much trouble in a race before, I'm really sorry, especially for Paul, who lost his 1st in class through my fault. :-(

Should've quited in Lap 1 already after touching Ruskus. Had some nice fights as a result and so did Ruskus i presume, but it was a bad omen for the rest of the race.

Don't think I'll bother you again in the next races, have a nice season guys. :-)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Madd-RIP on January 07, 2007, 10:37:00 PM +0000
Reasonable quali for me, race went not too bad except for always coming up on NGT's in Craner curves all the time, just my luck! fuel played a trick in second stint, 5 minutes left, enough for 5 laps, 1 minute left no fuel, godamn it, splash and dash ruined it tbh.  :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Jimmie on January 07, 2007, 10:39:32 PM +0000
That was quite a stunning race, at the beginning I got 2nd place due a first corner moment from some other guys :)
But I lost that place when I ran a bit wide few laps later, my pace was just high enough to keep up with the front pack, but after a few mistakes I just was loosing time and couldn't get the time I lost with that back, after the pitstop I was a bit more easy on my tyres and that resulted I could go hunting at the end of the race, FlyBri was taking it easy I think cause I was closing on him real fast, when he noticed it we ran like 1.26 laps at the end of the race really pushing it. Few times I got side by side but the 550 just blasts away on the following straight :o


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Paul968 on January 07, 2007, 10:40:04 PM +0000
I hope you don't mean that you won't race Martin? Nobody wants that and everyone knows you are not a dirty driver. Yes, I was a bit fed up to lose the lead in NGT, but these things happen. I took Bernie out at the same place while scrapping with Simon (sorry Bernie), so no complaints here :-).

Report to follow when I've seen the replay, but just to say I had a great race, especially the long battle with Simon in his extra widened BMW :P.

Paul


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 07, 2007, 10:40:14 PM +0000
When i made my pit stop on lap 31 someone was already in my bay. I had to sit and wait for ages until his pitstop was complete and that ruined my race completely. Any idea why that happened?

At most tracks there aren't enough pit bays for everyone to pit at once; the game allocates your bay when you join so if anyone you're sharing with is in when you pit you have to wait or go around.

There's some anecdotal evidence to suggest that issuing a pit request and only pitting when they say they're ready reduces the chances of having to share, instead of simply turning up unannounced. That probably assumes that a car you're sharing with hasn't nipped in unannounced ahead of you.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 07, 2007, 10:41:45 PM +0000
Don't think I'll bother you again in the next races, have a nice season guys. :-)

Pease don't quite on the basis of one bad race! It's hard enough filling the Endurance grids as it is! :'(


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Madd-RIP on January 07, 2007, 10:43:04 PM +0000
Martin, I've got some of your car in my Lambo  ;D, You'll have to race again so I can give it back to you m8!


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Kerr on January 07, 2007, 10:44:00 PM +0000
Yes I made pit request and since i never had enough fuel for any more laps i was stuffed. Had to wait


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Kerr on January 07, 2007, 10:44:48 PM +0000
and there was only about 4 cars in the pits at that time


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Radius on January 07, 2007, 10:47:22 PM +0000
Hope my parked car didn't cause mayhem, although I',m not optimistic because it happened in the middle of the Craner Curves with a car right behind :(

Yip, that was me  :D I took at wide entry to get a good run out and WHAM!!! A face full of frozen red vertislow!!! hahaha...was upset but I lmao seconds later!!! np thou, happens  ;)

...but oh what a great race....top 5 NGT guys running with 2 secs for a loooong time! I was surprised at how easy it is to let the GT guys through, just have to be sensible about it :D

After mo's car sent me off track i ended up behind MJ but dispatched of him easily ;D i was a man possessed and started lapping fast and consistent and made up 13 secs to the front runners just before halfway mark...When pitstops came i was battling tough with Simon and Dan so i decided to let them get on with it and I'll pit 3 laps earlier and use my fresh rubber to leap them and hopefully Paul as well!

...then the pit guys just stood there, staring at each other for like 6 secs  >:( lol  doing nothing then decides to start fueling, so when pit out i was 14 secs behind the front guys and started the chase all over again!!!!!!

with 3 laps left i was on Simon's tail ready to pounce as i sussed him up very quickly (early on the brakes good exit he drove) and we fought it out till 2nd last hairpin i had a late stab but thought better of it and he kept the place...was just looking for one more lap, thought id get it but just before s/f line the flag comes out EEEK dammit!

Simon was very relieved i could tell!!! haha

Good battle all, that was great...I'll def have another NGT Enduro sometime with you chaps!

PS: The GT were well behaved bu thats cause NGT were kind  ;) :D ;D ...and Martin!!! must've been a brain lapse!!  :P

PS: OMG CLAUS!!! You made them look amateurish! Amazing drive m8!


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: LEUVEN on January 07, 2007, 10:47:56 PM +0000
Dunno what to say, don't think i ever caused so much trouble in a race before, I'm really sorry, especially for Paul, who lost his 1st in class through my fault. :-(

Should've quited in Lap 1 already after touching Ruskus. Had some nice fights as a result and so did Ruskus i presume, but it was a bad omen for the rest of the race.

Don't think I'll bother you again in the next races, have a nice season guys. :-)

Martin, I felt the same way after the first few minutes mate, this track is more difficult than normal as it's extremely hard to pass here, even in different classes.
So as you're a good clean driver I hope you get your chin up and stay :'(, or maybe just quit the NGT's and I'll be happy.  ;) ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Simon Gymer on January 07, 2007, 10:50:57 PM +0000
That was one tough race. I was not feeling hugely well all day with a sore throat and what feels like the start of a stupid cold and I think this race has just wiped me out now.

Had some good close battles with people but it seemed like everytime you were close with another NGT, a GT would come up to lap you and break it up, was very hard to actually have a proper race with having to let people through nearly every lap from 20 minutes onwards. Not much you can do, Donington is a hard place to let people through and it seemed very busy on track the whole time.

Started off on full fuel again with soft front and medium rear and pitted a bit after half way taking my usual strategy of putting on soft-softs at the stop and only a small amount of fuel. I left my pit box at exactly the same time Paul came by and we drove side-by-side down the pit lane with Paul in his 911. I had to back off though as I had the damned safety car on my side and Paul was clear. He then seemed very hesitant coming out of the pits and maybe some confusion with his pit limiter and I managed to get the run on him down the craner curves to take the place.

Soon caught Pops in his Vertigo and Bernie whilst Paul and I dice liked hell. There were a few moments where I lost sight of Paul and must say sorry for cutting across after the slow chicane at one point after another GT had lapped, quick driving by Paul avoided me. So many things to concentrate on and wasn't thinking straight and cut back with Paul very close. Then tried it into the last corner and locked the brakes and nudged into Paul a couple of laps after he'd done the same with Bernie. Whoops. Was that sort of race.

I was keeping pace with Paul just about 0.6 in front of me and then lapping GTs would lose me more ground and it was a constant battle with trying not to lose too much time as GTs came and lapped me. That's just the way it goes in multi class racing but then near the end Martin got it wrong into the last turn and knocked Paul straight off giving me the lead. Then had to push hard on overheating, worn rubber and more worryingly brakes that just didn't want to stop, but managed to hold off Radius (just) to come over the line somehow 1st in class.

Cheers for the racing, I'm off to collapse.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Jeffrey on January 07, 2007, 10:52:18 PM +0000
Qually went better than expected. I kept messing up the last sector, losing around half a second everytime, while being 0.2 up at the first two sectors :o. But as I said, 2nd was better than expected.

After T1 I was in 8th place, and after that the race was awesome! I had to fight really hard to win back the places I lost. Great battles with Jimmie and James, but especially Mark MC who did an outstanding job in the Viper.

After my pitstop (which was awefully slow ::)) I had to push hard again, battling with the same drivers. With 20 minutes to go I had Martin behind me, and I was pushing like madd, because he was faster.

I was glad with finishing 2nd.

Grats to Claus for winning the race and almost lapping the whole field, and Simon for taking the NGT win.

Don't quit Martin, sh*t happens. I know you as one of the most fair drivers out there, so no need to feel bad after an unlucky race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: purdie on January 07, 2007, 11:01:07 PM +0000
really good racing lads..........(i assume you all are??!!)

...sorry for a mediocre performance in the saleen there! I just started using it, parked up the lambo! for some reason, I lowered my pressure with front mediums and read hards. Fronts never got above 75 degrees!

Lost a lot of time at the start and lost touch with midfield GT's, then coming to lap the NGTs i had no confidence in my car and passed very very badly....sorry guys, six of you all racing and I was being overly polite! especially to poor old Bernie Lomax, I was on the inside to Coppice and I tapped him into gravel...my fault totally...sorry!!!!

my first enduro and i really enjoyed it! and had a great last minute fight at the end with a lambo!!

grats to claus, amazing pace!


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 07, 2007, 11:10:43 PM +0000
Replay (http://www.ukgtr.org/replay/Donington%20GP%20U4Em%20070107.zip) and results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=258).


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Paul Richards on January 07, 2007, 11:14:59 PM +0000
It was me in the pit lane that was in the way. I think I was a handful of seconds up the track to Kerr and I also put in a pit request. I have heard of this problem but the first time I have been one of the cars. Probably a game bug as like it was said there weren't that many cars in the pit.

Good race for me had a steady if not spectacular race pace so quite pleased. Had a great race with my team mate Bri for quite a few laps and luckily was able to take advantage when coming up against the NGT's. Good job all on this hard to overtake track. Was coming up on MAD in the final few minutes but went by as his fuel problems started.

Please stick around Martin these things happen. Besides we need you at 28CDM and I would like to steal some of your setups too!!  ;D  


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 07, 2007, 11:18:32 PM +0000
It was me in the pit lane that was in the way. I think I was a handful of seconds up the track to Kerr and I also put in a pit request. I have heard of this problem but the first time I have been one of the cars. Probably a game bug as like it was said there weren't that many cars in the pit.

Did you hear the "pit at the end of this lap" message? Or just make the request? Not that I'm sure it makes any difference and of course if Kerr was out of fuel and couldn't go another lap he might have had to queue anyway. (The moral is: never pit with less than a lap of fuel remaining - easier said than done in some of the GTs!)

It's a pity it doesn't allocate a bay as you make the request rather than at the start of the event but that would be harder to code and wouldn't allow for the "proper" pit bays (reflecting the relevant FIA season) to be used.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Jeffrey on January 07, 2007, 11:28:30 PM +0000


Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Donnington 08-01-2007 MAS/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Paul Richards on January 07, 2007, 11:34:35 PM +0000
Got the fuel warning about half way round the lap and as we were on 45 minutes gone I though ok will pit now. Like you said not sure if the Lambo would make it round a lap and a half!! Pressed the pit request and it got the pit at the end of this lap message.

Like you said Dave I expect that there aren't enough for us all to have one allocated each and the problems occur as it attempts to divide them up between us. Thanks to Kerr for not knocking me out of the pit box although I not sure that would work anyway though as his car had no bonnet at all after hittng me in the pit box but mine didn't have a scratch!!! I guess as soon as the fuel starts to go in it magically turns into a tank.

Cheers again for the organising of this league to all of those involved.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: PaulW on January 08, 2007, 12:01:02 AM +0000
Engine blew.. I'm just opening the vent right up from now on ::)

Some 'optimistic' GT overtaking on fast corners I thought. Several times I needed to sacrifice my lap in order to make enough room for someone to get by without a problem. Nothing terribly blatant I'd want to report on the replay but important to me nonetheless in my chase of the guy in front.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: FlyBri on January 08, 2007, 12:59:54 AM +0000
A good race for me had some good battles with kerr, paul richards and jimmie along the way. Very hard to overtake the ngt's let alone the gt's, tight track. Got caught napping by jimmie at the end, had an exciting last few laps as jimmie was pushing me a lot harder than i wanted to go at that point in the race! Pleased with my 6th place.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Kerr on January 08, 2007, 09:25:01 AM +0000
Sorry for bumping into you at pit stop Paul. The computer automatically turned into you and i had no idea that was going to happen. I was expecting to drive past you to a free pit space. My pit stop was over 3 minutes in total which obviously would have improved my finish time and position. Lost time waiting and the damage from the bump that should never have had happened


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: purdie on January 08, 2007, 09:40:46 AM +0000
My pit stop was over 3 minutes in total which obviously would have improved my finish time and position. Lost time waiting and the damage from the bump that should never have had happened

wondered why you were so far back kerr.... after a stop/go and a bad first stint i was not ever expecting to see a GT to battle with! Good 3 lap sprint at the end!


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Kerr on January 08, 2007, 09:51:38 AM +0000
Looking at the lap times, the lap my episode in the pits happened was 4.29 whereas other people's pit stops plus lap, look to have been around 2.40 give or take 10secs. It is fair to say I lost nearly 2 mins. Curious how many positions that would have gained me in the race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Paul Richards on January 08, 2007, 10:11:14 AM +0000
No worries mate it wasn't your fault. It was quite strange watching the front of your car disintegrate against the back of mine which was suddenly made of solid concrete! I guess you were just really unlucky in that we qualified next to each other and then ended up pitting on the same lap, presuming thats how it divides up the pit lanes.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Mark J on January 08, 2007, 11:29:07 AM +0000
That was a gruelling tough race, i felt totally knackered by the end of it. The race seemed to go on for ever  :o

Had a great opening 15 minutes of the race, getting past several cars to advance up the grid after some good battles with Ferraris (nice to see a few more of them on grid again) and soon found myself upto about 3rd or 4th ngt after a few others had incidents. Though it didnt last long as a re-surgent Radius came belting back at me and got past within a few laps.
I was still happy with my position and had built a good 8 second or so lead over the chasing pack of Bernie L, TT, Jan and others and the car felt good.
However, as Paul mentions above, whilst some GT cars were very careful whilst lapping others were very 'optimistic' or aggressive in their moves and i was less than impressed to get bundled off the track with a hefty side impact smack onto the grass on the uphill Schwantz curve. >:( Losing all my lead in the process. Several times GT's tried to overtake at dodgy corners rather than waiting for the following straight and there were a few occasion where if i hadnt gone very wide there would have been an incident. Dont forget we NGT's are usually in a fierce race of our own where every dropped seconds hurts badly.
The car never felt the same after and i struggled to match my early pace, with all the guys behind me catching me easily and getting past when i pitted.
I opted not to repair at my pitstop and the car handled like crap for the remaining half of the race, with my lap times about a second or so consistenly slower than the first half of the race. By race end i could just about drag the car around and was covered in a sheen of sweat, finishing a miserable last by about 20 seconds. :(

Enjoyed the race until the impact then it was painful for the rest. Congrats to the Claus and Simon for their well deserved wins 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Paul968 on January 08, 2007, 11:33:49 AM +0000
As Simon says, quite a race. Couldn't match Leuven or Mo in qual (great time in the Verti-Mo!), but when the race started I was able to hang on to the 2 of them as they battled over the opening laps. Leuven then had a spin at Coppice, and not long after I got a good exit from the last corner to pass Mo into T1. Good job from the sound of it, as he froze just afterwards :o. I could then work on stretching a lead, which I'd eaked out to around 17 secs by pitstop time. I thought this would be enough, even allowing for the sneaky ones using a full fuel load, but for some reason I lost time as the crew repaired some damage - strange as I'd had no contact. I came out with Simon right behind, but I was too cautious trying to stay out of the way of approaching cars and Simon nipped past on the inside. I took a few laps to get the tyres up to temp and then started pushing. We had a terrific scrap for several laps, including an unfortunate mistake by me when I went too deep at the last corner and nudged Bernie off (sorry m8, I was only trying to pass Simon). I gave Simon the place back and carried on the chase, which finally succeeded with a pass into the melbourne loop. We then had a long stretch where the GTs conspired to break things up rather effectively (not intentionally of course) and neither of us could settle into a rhythm. With 10 mins to go I had just started to edge away when Martin made the same mistake as Me (and Simon) at the last corner, and spun me round. We locked horns nose to nose for a while, as I couldn't reverse  across the track, but when things finally got sorted, I tried a spin turn which went pear shaped and ended up on the inside 90 deg to the track and up against the barrier. Took ages to get back on  safely, by which time I was way down. I got one place back by the finish after harrying Bernie into a spin, but finished a frustrated 16th. On reflection though, I had a great time racing, which is the most important thing.

Well done to Claus and Simon and thx to the GTs who were very courteous when lapping (too courteous in some cases when I just wanted them to get a move on!).

Paul


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: CeeJay on January 08, 2007, 11:56:59 AM +0000
Qual was bit of a lottery, would have a good lap goin and then an NGT would appear, good thing session is relatively long so there's the possibity to go out twice, eventually managed to get in a free gap.

Race was good, got a free back alrdy after turn 1 when Ruskus and Martin had a come together, after 2 more laps tires started to work and could push a little more and slowly build a gap. Race was pretty uneventful, had time to be patient with the NGTs and just overtake them under acceleration, only a little scare when a Lambo suddenly lifted when I was close behind on the racingline to let me by before the hairpin.

And Martin you shouldn't stop now, you're the only one left to battle Ruskus for the overall win  :D



Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Madd-RIP on January 08, 2007, 12:07:01 PM +0000
 ::) that Lambo was me, Thought you were a bit further away than you obviously were, sorry about that Ceejay


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: jan duijs on January 08, 2007, 12:15:45 PM +0000
Just as i gave up to connect to lobby on my last try,i got in!! No regrets about that,eventfull race ;D
Many nice battles before the pitstop,i suprised myself when i overtook Leuven at the last corner before SF,after the stops there was a feeling of "hello guys where are you i want to play ":o,how do you all do that these fast stops??
Hope to participate more in Endurance really enjoyed last night.


Jan


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Jure on January 08, 2007, 12:37:19 PM +0000
I had a terrible race  ;D

Couldn't get a clean lap in quali (not that it mattered, bloody tyres took 5 (five) laps to heat up and even then they were in very low 80s if at all), started dead last in GT, felt like a complete noob.  ::) Then, retarted as I am I went and did "quick last minute setup change". Result? Overheating brakes (duct 2, brakes went over 600 deg. celsius in last two corners after the chicane, which were suppose to be corners where my setup should have excelled), rear wing 12 clearly wasn't a good option anyway, it took me ages just to pass NGT's on straights. Ouch. ;D Running on soft fronts/medium rear is a good option, but not if they NEVER go over 80 degrees. Dammit. Talk about driving on ice :D

Clipped a NGT Porsche (dunno who) in penultimate corner (hairpin), didn't want to get by him, but then he ran wide and I went, well, OK, if u insist. Turns out he just went wide and not "here's some room for ya", so we swapped sidemirrors or smthn. No harm done, I hope.

Pitted on lap 30, lost good 15 seconds (hit that ignition button 4 times. nothing, still no fuel going in. WTF?!?!), had two spins afterwards while trying to push, but got caught by GT aliens, so I went inventive and tried to let them by on wrong part of the track. Wuiiiii, you spin me round round baby. Luckily, no one got hurt, i.e. top runners weren't hurt by my ballet.  ;D ::)

It was funny as hell though, caught myself deliberately easing off throttle (whilst running 10th, you know, who cares :D ) just to enjoy watching great NGT battles in front of me.  8)

Can't wait for sprint event, was a cool race and I'm still happy altough getting home 2 laps down. Was surprised I've managed to finish, bladder was the size of a basketball, I'm sure, plus there was no motivation to drive on s****y setup. 2 points is better then nothing, I guess.

Congrats to winners, big jawdrop for qualifying (did u guys notice time differences in GT class? OMFG, how cool is that!?!!?).

I love this game :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: mo on January 08, 2007, 01:13:08 PM +0000
I see from the replay that my car lagged badly when my pc froze. Apologies to Radius who spun out because of this, nothing I could do though, and my pc is usually rock solid.

I have no idea how you got the Vertigo round there so quickly Mo!  :o

The setup is in the online garage if you wanna try it out - Vertigo_doni_mo.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 08, 2007, 01:17:37 PM +0000
I guess you were just really unlucky in that we qualified next to each other and then ended up pitting on the same lap, presuming thats how it divides up the pit lanes.

I believe the allocations are done as each driver joins the server; I've intentionally removed all the pit groups from the ballasted cars to reduce the sharing to a minimum, but except at Spa (which has a glut of pit boxes) there will always be some sharing, and no pattern to who shares with who.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: popabawa on January 08, 2007, 02:03:33 PM +0000
The setup is in the online garage if you wanna try it out - Vertigo_doni_mo.

Cheers Mo, I appreciate it :thumbup1:

I was watching you in qualifying zipping through the chicane like it almost wasn't there and it reminded me of a couple of seasons back when you shared your set-up at Spa (I think it was the GT3) with me when you were similarly ploughing through Bus Stop. I tried to replicate your speed and line maybe 20-30 times before giving up in utter frustration! I guess this set-up will get me as far but I'll try anyway :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: LEUVEN on January 08, 2007, 02:48:19 PM +0000
Happy with qualifying, but surprised to see a Vertigo in second especially in front of Paul who I wasn't surprised to see up the front.
mo seemed to have kept his Qually speed and took it to the race 8), and pressured me a lot.
IIRC mo overtook me then I took him back but I lost the lead when I ended up sideways in Coppice. :cursing:
A shame really as I was fat with fuel and may have had a good long battle with mo and Paul if I had gotten to grips with the car early on. :-\

The spin pushed me all the way down to 20th as it was quite early on and as I was trying to claw back the places I had a coming together with Jan which resulted in us both going off, the worst thing was we were having a great duel too. :'( thankfully theres more grass down at the Foggarty Esses rather than glue sand traps.

I managed to pick up some speed around half distance and set out to move up the grid, helped by me staying out later than even the vertigo of popabawa I was able to jump a few places.
Now with a light car and some fresh tyres I was able to grab one or two more positions before finishing on the podium. :)

Congrats to Ceejay and Shark on their class wins, Ruskus' second place.  :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: purdie on January 08, 2007, 04:59:32 PM +0000
yeah congrats to ceejay, great drive.

I lvoed as i struggled past NGT's and u just came out of nowhere, passed us all and then drove into distance!!

Plus grats to ruskus on a great come back drive! Saw the spin and when u recovered onto track the the craners i didn't even bother passing u!


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: CeeJay on January 08, 2007, 06:36:28 PM +0000
::) that Lambo was me, Thought you were a bit further away than you obviously were, sorry about that Ceejay

ah yes it was you, np tho, just raised my heart rate for a while hehe


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: stnasky on January 08, 2007, 07:34:31 PM +0000
Fair-ish race for me. Enjoyed it thorougly,  couldnt believe my luck at the start to see Martin and Ruskus touch and spin on the first lap :P.  Claus just drove off into the distance ??? and could'nt do anything about it. 

Had some battles with Ruskus which went on for a few laps with me just able to keep a little gap while passing the NGT cars,  but eventually he caught and passed me ;).  Then i was slipping, lost another spot to James and then lost another spot to Martin who tapped me at the hairpin and left me facing the wrong way.

Then everyone seemed to dive into the pits, in no time i was in 1st place.  My plan was to stay out for as long as possible and then come into pit for a splash and dash,  I would of needed 26 minutes worth of fuel to see me to the end, and was'nt for taking tyres which would of made it a fast stop.  However on entry to pitlane the guy with the board was nowhere to be seen,  which meant i couldnt stop.  i did'nt have enough fuel to make it round for another lap as the counter was showing 1L,  so i quit. >:(

Would like to apologise to Jan and M Jonzo for an over aggressive piece of dive bombing at the last turn,  think i bumped Jan during that :-\.  great awareness from the NGT drivers.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Bernie Lomax on January 08, 2007, 07:48:43 PM +0000
A tough race on man and machine. Had a great opening 20 mins battling with Jonzo, Truetom and others. Unfortunaelt Jonzo nudged off by a lapping GT and then a couple of laps later I got punted off by a lapping GT as well. Some of the GT's could have possibly been a bit more patient when overtaking.

Was always playing catch up after that but ultimately only caught myself out and spun trying to stay in ahead of Paul968 with only a lap or two left.
An enjoyable first half.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Mark J on January 08, 2007, 10:28:15 PM +0000
Actually, have to say, after watching  the replay, the gt i had contact with was blameless, as he was glued to the rear spoiler of the GT car in front and its actually me coming back across into the blind spot that caused me to get a side swipe onto the grass. He was so close to the first GT car that he wasnt visible to me.  :-[

Its quite amazing how different incidents look on the replay compared to how they 'feel' when your driving your adrenaline filled nuts off during the race   :-X


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Truetom on January 08, 2007, 10:34:05 PM +0000
Fair move, MJ!  :)  A true gentleman and Legend.  8)

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: jan duijs on January 08, 2007, 10:58:43 PM +0000


Would like to apologise to Jan and M Jonzo for an over aggressive piece of dive bombing at the last turn,  think i bumped Jan during that :-\.  great awareness from the NGT drivers.

I leave you a gap you take it,i see no problem.Besides guys who drive Vipers can do no wrong with me (is that english??) :P

Jan


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Martin Steinmetz on January 08, 2007, 11:00:03 PM +0000
[...] then lost another spot to Martin who tapped me at the hairpin and left me facing the wrong way. [...]

I already forgot that, I'm very sorry, my driving was really extremely bad yesterday. :-(

Good job in the Viper. :-)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: purdie on January 09, 2007, 10:18:49 AM +0000
I'm very sorry, my driving was really extremely bad yesterday. :-(

haha, i wish i cud say that and still finish 3rd


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: purdie on January 10, 2007, 01:16:38 PM +0000
When i made my pit stop on lap 31 someone was already in my bay. I had to sit and wait for ages until his pitstop was complete and that ruined my race completely. Any idea why that happened?


i found this in the *.plr file.........does it help you reckon Dave?

Vehicles Per Pit="2" // Default used for assigning garage & pit (range: 1-3), may be overridden with GDB entry on a per-pit basis

Pressing 9 in advance and waiting for a pit ready msg may also help


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Kerr on January 10, 2007, 01:25:29 PM +0000
I did not press 9 but, fuel was low and i was requested to come in at the time


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 10, 2007, 02:03:38 PM +0000
i found this in the *.plr file.........does it help you reckon Dave?

Vehicles Per Pit="2" // Default used for assigning garage & pit (range: 1-3), may be overridden with GDB entry on a per-pit basis

I don't think it will make any difference as all the standard tracks have specific entries for each pit anyway. I can't see how it would help online because I presume the server does the pit allocation - it certainly seemed that way during our Anderstorp test.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: [R24-7]RoGuE on January 12, 2007, 05:19:36 PM +0000
 hi all R24-7Rogue here 

 just wondeing if i could join in to the UKGTR Endurance Masters or acadamy races  i did the last racein UKGTR NGT Sprint Academy - Donington GP - Jan 9 which was so cool & good racing & yeah sorry 4 talking in race aswell  :angel:  ( qaul1 3rd  ended up 5th from a spin)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Masters - Donington GP - Jan 7
Post by: Radius on January 12, 2007, 06:09:02 PM +0000
nobody can here you over here mate, maybe try this thread = https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2169.225

 ;)