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Title: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 31, 2006, 06:42:42 PM +0000
Practice 1:20:00(15 mins)full time drivers only
Practice 2:20:15(15 mins)reserves may join too
Qual 2:20:30(25 mins)
Race:20:55(80 mins)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT, G2 or NGT from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.2 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) (see this thread (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2228.0)) (G2 cars will not score points).
Weather: to be decided just before the race based on real-world weather according to the Endurance rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=42).
Track: Donington GP 2004
Race Start Time 14:00
Pit Stops: All drivers must make a minimum of one pit stop. This must involve entering the pit lane at the speed limit, and coming to a complete standstill in the designated pit box. Tyres do not have to be changed and no fuel has to be added. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Endurance Academy
Password: here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2325)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=39).
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers should remember that they get only two free changes of car in each series.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: John on January 01, 2007, 01:27:42 AM +0000
Looking forward to it Dave

Happy New Year


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Oliver Bateson on January 06, 2007, 01:38:51 PM +0000
mwaaaaahh  haa hhaa - you guys don't stand a chance - i know where the pit entrance is ;-)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 06, 2007, 02:08:48 PM +0000
mwaaaaahh  haa hhaa - you guys don't stand a chance - i know where the pit entrance is ;-)

 :lol:


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Adam Parle on January 12, 2007, 11:38:15 PM +0000
 :) :) :)

Looks like the new motherboard did the job - no framerate issues at all.

Looks like I'll be joining you all again this weekend.

Time to get some points back!!!!!


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Munkez on January 13, 2007, 11:10:09 AM +0000
Ok guys, im now registered as a reserve, so hope to see you all on sunday!!

ALTHOUGH... havent much experience with enduro racing apart from the 2hr at silverstone over xmas.... (what a blast that was!!!) what are peoples thoughts on the pit stop? do you guys splash and dash? change tyres aswell? or just stop and go?
Again with weather, i feel ive some good/ok set-ups, but thats for the dry, if it rains what do you suggest looking at changing after the tyres?

Munk


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 13, 2007, 11:52:24 AM +0000
ALTHOUGH... havent much experience with enduro racing apart from the 2hr at silverstone over xmas.... (what a blast that was!!!) what are peoples thoughts on the pit stop? do you guys splash and dash? change tyres aswell? or just stop and go?
Again with weather, i feel ive some good/ok set-ups, but thats for the dry, if it rains what do you suggest looking at changing after the tyres?

I always change tyres. I don't normally add fuel unless I can't make the distance, but for some reason I always (even since my GPL days) drive better with a little more fuel on board - don't know why.

In the rain, raise the ride height and soften everything, stiffen the diff on both sides and move the brake balance back.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Jeffrey on January 13, 2007, 05:02:58 PM +0000
Are Masters allowed to join in Q2 in a G3 car?


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 13, 2007, 06:06:05 PM +0000
Are Masters allowed to join in Q2 in a G3 car?

Not for this event, but we will evaluate the situation again afterwards based on the turnout (which wasn't too good in the Masters).


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Jeffrey on January 13, 2007, 06:12:25 PM +0000
Are Masters allowed to join in Q2 in a G3 car?

Not for this event, but we will evaluate the situation again afterwards based on the turnout (which wasn't too good in the Masters).

Okidope, then I'll do the testrace at Simracing.nl. Anyway, I'm racing this sunday ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: John on January 13, 2007, 06:32:03 PM +0000
Sorry lads

Dont think i'll be able to make this.
Gutted :'(

Missus has got a new shop and ive just done 14 days straight getting it ready. :sweatdrop:
With constructing walls,plastering ,plumbing,electrics and worst of all painting,im knackered. :sleep1:
And ive still got 2 days to go as she's supposed to be opening tuesday. :eek:
Someone help me please.
I cant take no more. :helpsmilie:


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: LuKe#69 on January 13, 2007, 06:56:05 PM +0000
Looking forward to this one,hopefully have better luck than Tuesday and can give Giz a run for his money....  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Blunder on January 13, 2007, 07:08:53 PM +0000
Weather!? No no no!!
I didn't notice that rule! ( Have read now! )
Nightmare!
Will have to cross my fingers for dry!!
Havn't done any wet or changeable runs at all!!

Oh well, it'll be fun !!

M.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Kerr on January 14, 2007, 12:41:05 AM +0000
What is the chances of me being allowed to enter?

I'm still finding my feet and would like more experience. Donington in the masters ended up a disaster after the pit stop fiasco but at the end of the day a few of the guys are way too fast for me. Maybe this could be more of my level to get more experience.

It's hardly like ruskus needs the practice where i do!


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 14, 2007, 10:24:14 AM +0000
What is the chances of me being allowed to enter?

I'm still finding my feet and would like more experience. Donington in the masters ended up a disaster after the pit stop fiasco but at the end of the day a few of the guys are way too fast for me. Maybe this could be more of my level to get more experience.

I've made you a reserve in the Academy too, but as you finished third in the 2 hour special and only did poorly in the Masters because of the pit lane shenanigans (which could happen to anyone) I think you've got the wherewithall to be in the Masters, and after Greg's 3rd place in the NGT Sprint Academy I have real reservations about putting someone in what I suspect is the "wrong" division, especially now we're getting to that stage in the season when championships are decided.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Oliver Bateson on January 14, 2007, 09:08:02 PM +0000
very dissapointed :'(, got my best qualy of 1:34 after lots of practice :angel:. The time showed on the qualy board but did not give me the correct position? Then when the server goes to race I find myself not on the grid >:(???? Was I DQ'd maybe? Anyway, it allows me to Click on race and then it puts me in a field ???  :o???.

I know im not the fastest but I don't deserve to be put in a field. Although, I suppose it was for the best - i would have just got in someones way :(

Anyone know what happened - is there a server limit or was I booted??


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: picnic on January 14, 2007, 10:14:05 PM +0000
Very strange goings on tonight, I went in for my pit stop, pfaffed around trying to cancel repair work before pressing return to accept stuff as the crew were shouting at me only for the AI to drive the car out of the pits and is still driving now. So sorry for the inconsiderate lines I'm now taking as you GT guys try to come passed.

Came out of pits first in NGT class too, although I doubt I would have held that. Come on car, keep 2nd ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: John on January 14, 2007, 10:22:08 PM +0000
Another dia race for me.
Didn't help that i was used as a brake at the chicane.
Or be knocked off by a lapping GT car that couldn't wait till we were out of the turn and on a 1/4 mile long straight.
Dont they realise that were all racing for position or what.
Anyway after that I'd had enough and quit.
Glad to see the back of this track.
2 poor performances in a week.
What a nightmare.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: silver53 on January 14, 2007, 10:28:29 PM +0000
Hi that was tough. Dave I thought you were in my pit it was so close to the entrance so was not sure thought you would be in a good position so whent round againcheers gerald ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: John on January 14, 2007, 10:28:53 PM +0000
By the way,Picnic

I was behind your car for the last few laps.
And to be fair,if that was the AI driving.
He was doing alright.
I was struggling to catch him.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Don on January 14, 2007, 10:29:43 PM +0000
Another moan from me, but why! in an Endurance event do people have to bump and barge past on the opening laps of the race?
99 secs worth of damage on lap 2, race was over for me from then on but refused to give up.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Blunder on January 14, 2007, 10:33:17 PM +0000
Enjoyable race, ended up 12 th! A good result for me!
Mainly as everybody else seemed happy to drop out etc!!
Sorry to a couple of the GT guys! A couple of minor moments as GT's pushed to overtake at
less than ideal times but as Donnington is pretty much one long corner with a few interuptions then
it was never gonna be easy!
Had a brilliant time chasing down Multek?, but a combination of a couple of GT's and a minor mistake / spin
put pay to that!

Really enjoyed it !! Look forward to the next!

Martin


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Munkez on January 14, 2007, 10:33:49 PM +0000
Didn't help that i was used as a brake at the chicane.
Or be knocked off by a lapping GT car that couldn't wait till we were out of the turn and on a 1/4 mile long straight.
Dont they realise that were all racing for position or what.

Yeah had the same happen to me at Goddard's before the start/finish straight.... kept going though to finish 5th i think in class!! well chuffed ;D
Did make the one mistake taking in a trip to the sand trap at Old Hairpin.... might of cost me a podium :-[


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Munkez on January 14, 2007, 10:35:09 PM +0000
Had a brilliant time chasing down Multek?, but a combination of a couple of GT's and a minor mistake / spin
put pay to that!

I think you mean me..... munkez  :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: ossie on January 14, 2007, 10:36:08 PM +0000
Terrible race once again for me. Came off early on and had to wait for EVERY car to pass me before I managed to get back onto the track.  Had a really hard fight passing all the NGT's to regroup with the GT's.

Found the track awful for passing the slower cars, had an incident with one NGT thinking he was giving me room then closing me down and unfortunately he came off worse.

good racing all and congrats top of class!!!


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Blunder on January 14, 2007, 10:36:41 PM +0000
Oops, sorry buddy your right!!
Fantastic chasing you!!

M.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Kerr on January 14, 2007, 10:37:35 PM +0000
Another bad race. My virus software downloaded an update and minimized the game. Even worse that i was in the lead and easing away with a nice car. Lost me 5 positions or so. Managed to pass edamspeed and making good progress to catch.

Came around craner curve(I'm sure right bend) on lap 10-11, and could see a car off the track and assumed he could see us. He just drove straight into the middle of the track car and i could not go anywhere. Major damage which lead to a long pit stop and also forced me to make another pit stop to make the distance.

Thought i had a decent chance of a win but not to be. Well done to all.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Adam Parle on January 14, 2007, 10:39:57 PM +0000
Not a great race for me, took forever to get up to speed.  Had a couple of 1 fps moments courtesy of forgetting to disable Norton (sorry to any people I scared the bejesus out of you).  Had a massive fight with Chunky for the largest part of the race, getting the upper hand only to lose it after having to pit for a splash and dash ... but I managed to get by again on the penultimate lap .... good racing though.

Speaking of pitting .... when an NGT car announces their intention to pit 2 corners in advance, please would the GT drivers not overtake on the inside of the final corner approaching the pits.  This happened to me, and I had to run another lap before finally being able to pit, not to mention settling down again after being somewhat distracted.


But....when all's said and done, it's good to get another race under my belt after the computer problems that I've been having of late, shame I wasn't problem free (my fault ... damn you Norton!!).  Not a good performance though, time to get back to form for the next one.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: cej on January 14, 2007, 10:40:36 PM +0000
wow what a race. Wasn't up to speed (haven't had much practice) . Very hard to pass the NGTs on this track. Most gave me room ,but not all  :-\

I was chasing down 3rd position and then with only a couple of laps to go and an NGT (won't mention any names) decided to smash into my rear knocking me deep into the sand. I was backing up to avoid hitting Adam Parle, apparently the driver behind didn't see Adam going onto the grass and coming back in..

Fortunately kept my 4th,but might have been a close 3rd if not for that incident  :-\


But apart from that, a very good race and thx to all NGTs who let me by without hassle. I know it's not easy to give room and at the same time fight for position    :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: DynoDaz on January 14, 2007, 10:41:13 PM +0000
Completely agree Don..  Luckily it didn't happen to me this time because I had you to hold the traffic off me for a couple of laps.  :P

Completely gutted.  Qualified on pole and managed to gain a 5 second lead over the opening laps.  But my stupidity and carelessness of some GT drivers cost me that lead.  :no:

When a NGT car is at the chicane there is nowhere for us to go.  We are not there as brakes.  ;D

Being shunted by 2 GT cars at the chicane forced me to pit early and as a result screwed up my fuel load for the rest of the race.  Why doesn't it add to your current fuel instead emptying your tank and then filling up to the requested amount?

Anyway, had to pit with 1 lap to go changing 2nd into 7th  :(

Well done Luke.



Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 14, 2007, 10:42:38 PM +0000
Didn't help that i was used as a brake at the chicane.

Sorry - totally my fault. Was lining you up and thinking about getting a decent exit and just broke too late. :-[ Tried to wait for you to rejoin ahead but cars were flying by so went round, did me stop, then came back in for a drive through in pennance.

I shouldn't have been so far down but I got knocked off myself at Redgate which set me up for a nightmare race. Munkez was far too kind letting me by (not that I'm complaining!) and then I had a few laps of elbows out stuff with Chunky on tyres which I'd shredded trying to work my way back up the field.

Second half wasn't much better as I ran off at Coppice and lost a bucketload of time rejoining from the kitty litter. After that I drove a lot better but it was too little too late, I could see a podium place just a few seconds ahead but just couldn't go any quicker on tyres which I'd burned up trying to make up time (in fact the crew called me in for worn tyres just before I crossed the line).

Not sure what to do about Picnic's bizzarre AI driver problem. This happened to me once before but I don't think it's ever happened in a championship race and I'm not sure what to do about it!


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Reign Man on January 14, 2007, 10:45:08 PM +0000
Had a terrible race, and I didn't exactly do Dave's race any favors either. Sorry Dave I cant apologise enough!

I had a decent pace, I just couldn't keep it on the road, going off every 4 laps or so, span on the last lap also letting Gerald take me.  :-\

Sorry if I got in folks way

Reign Man


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 14, 2007, 10:45:30 PM +0000
Hi that was tough. Dave I thought you were in my pit it was so close to the entrance so was not sure thought you would be in a good position so whent round againcheers gerald ;D

Ah, wondered what was going on. Pity, you seemed to be doing okay in the TVR. :( Don't think I saw you off the track once. :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Adam Parle on January 14, 2007, 10:48:01 PM +0000
I was chasing down 3rd position and then with only a couple of laps to go and an NGT (won't mention any names) decided to smash into my rear knocking me deep into the sand. I was backing up to avoid hitting Adam Parle, apparently the driver behind didn't see Adam going onto the grass and coming back in..

I realise I may have slowed things down, but I was a fair distance ahead - not a bad rejoin, just one of those things I think.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Munkez on January 14, 2007, 10:48:11 PM +0000
Munkez was far too kind letting me by (not that I'm complaining!) and then I had a few laps of elbows out stuff with Chunky on tyres which I'd shredded trying to work my way back up the field.

With the speed you caught me back up  :o, i wasn't going to jeopardise my own race getting into a fight with you!!  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Adam Parle on January 14, 2007, 10:50:00 PM +0000
Oh, and apologies to Dave, Beholder, and anyone else I flew past at the chicane, outbraking everything and everyone, myslef included.  Really glad not to have  contacted anyone, and I'm feeling suitably embarassed with those rookie errors.....


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: John on January 14, 2007, 10:52:52 PM +0000
Not a problem Dave.
Just a shock at the time.

It was the GT car that rammed me off that done my head in.
You must of seen it,You were right behind me.

It was the fact that i was entering a turn that you cant really go wide at or your off.
And he came straight up the inside of me and shoved me in the wall.
Even though the following straight was the one going down to the chicane.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: EdamSpeed on January 14, 2007, 10:55:33 PM +0000
Quote
Came around craner curve(I'm sure right bend) on lap 10-11, and could see a car off the track and assumed he could see us. He just drove straight into the middle of the track car and i could not go anywhere. Major damage which lead to a long pit stop and also forced me to make another pit stop to make the distance.

Yes, that was odd! I was behind you at the time (after I'd let you through, as I realised you were a lap down, and were miles quicker than me), and when you hit the spinning car, you both went up in the air, and I just about squeezed under the flying cars! Felt a bump as I went through, but no repairs needed at next stop - Weird!  :o

My first stint was good - got into 3rd place, from a lowly 8th, mostly due to spinners/accidents of others. However, it all went to pot after the stop.. My temporary desk in the attic space (not the pub!) is a bit wobbly, which puts me off a little, but then the wheel started to come off the table too! Nightmare to control it after that, as I was half driving, and half trying to keep the desk together.

So big apologies to all the NGT drivers that I came across in the latter stages of the race. I think Luke, picnic, Martin, and a few others all had to pass and re-pass me, after a series of sily excursions :( Really sorry for that, and hope I didn't get in the way too much. Guess I was having trouble fighting my own table for control!  :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: John on January 14, 2007, 10:56:28 PM +0000
Oh, and apologies to Dave, Beholder, and anyone else I flew past at the chicane, outbraking everything and everyone, myslef included.  Really glad not to have  contacted anyone, and I'm feeling suitably embarassed with those rookie errors.....


No apologies needed mate.
Every time i felt like nodding off, i'd look behind me and there you were.
Woke me up on a few occassions.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Adam Parle on January 14, 2007, 11:02:31 PM +0000
Sure it wasn't me swearing loudly, with 4 locked wheels sliding past that woke you up?!?!?! ;D

Had some silly offs, the best one being at the Craner Curves, took my eye off the road to see what laptime I'd just put in (on GTR2 PD on my laptop) - completely lost it, and had one big grassy detour to the old hairpin .....


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Chunky on January 14, 2007, 11:05:18 PM +0000
That was really tuff, the race seemed to go on forever. Had 2 great battles with Adam and Dave which kept my concentration.
There was some good racing but I agree with Don, I filled up the to the brim and put on hard tires at the start and was holding my own. (I think)Then a passing GT just went into my rear, on a straight as well, my handling was shot after that.

Looking forward to next one and hopefully some more close racing.
Congrats to the winner(GT) and Luke


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Kerr on January 14, 2007, 11:05:44 PM +0000
Quote
Came around craner curve(I'm sure right bend) on lap 10-11, and could see a car off the track and assumed he could see us. He just drove straight into the middle of the track car and i could not go anywhere. Major damage which lead to a long pit stop and also forced me to make another pit stop to make the distance.

Yes, that was odd! I was behind you at the time (after I'd let you through, as I realised you were a lap down, and were miles quicker than me), and when you hit the spinning car, you both went up in the air, and I just about squeezed under the flying cars! Felt a bump as I went through, but no repairs needed at next stop - Weird!  :o

My first stint was good - got into 3rd place, from a lowly 8th, mostly due to spinners/accidents of others. However, it all went to pot after the stop.. My temporary desk in the attic space (not the pub!) is a bit wobbly, which puts me off a little, but then the wheel started to come off the table too! Nightmare to control it after that, as I was half driving, and half trying to keep the desk together.




At lap 10-11 i was on the same lap and overtook you for position. It was after the pit stop for damages that I caught and you let me past. Thanks for your help.

 I've no idea what the guy( i will not metion his name) was playing at that took me out. He must have seen us and thought about how he was going to pull back on circuit. His car was at 90 degrees almost right across track and there was nowhere to go


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: LuKe#69 on January 15, 2007, 12:44:54 AM +0000
Wasnt a bad race for me....first lap I was too anxious to overtake and tapped Don(sorry m8)but let him past me again.
After that it was time to chase down Darren,but as he spun early on I was able to get past him.With about 6-7 minutes left I was 2nd behind Picnic and he entered pits and came out the pits right in front of me but with cold brakes and cold tyres he couldnt do much and after tapping him under braking(sorry..) half a lap later I was able to get past.
Last few races of the season are going  to be quite interesting....


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 15, 2007, 07:42:16 AM +0000
Replay here (http://ukgtr.simracing.org.uk/) and results here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=286).


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: EdamSpeed on January 15, 2007, 09:43:33 AM +0000
At lap 10-11 i was on the same lap and overtook you for position. It was after the pit stop for damages that I caught and you let me past. Thanks for your help.

You're quite right, you did overtake me twice, now that I think about it. However, the fact that you were 2 seconds quicker than me in quali was well noted by me, and I remember thinking I'd better let you past, as it would be unfair to hold you up at that stage, and I had no real hope of defending the position for another 25 or so laps! ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Nug on January 15, 2007, 11:20:20 AM +0000

Good race all, thanks to all NGT drivers who drove really well and made it easy to pass on a track that can be very narrow at times!

My race was going well in second place behind the very quick lambo of Kerr, then he stopped dead out of nowhere (I knew he must have had some technical difficulties) and I went infront. Built up a nice lead of around 10 seconds then lost it all in a trip to the gravel. With FreQ very very close behind the ride was uncomfortable to say the least!

Just after the half way point I span on the very last corner so I decided that this would be a good time to pit. After pitting I noticed that I didnt have enough fuel to finish the race with (due to my own inexperience), and FreQ was 10 seconds infront, I decided that I wouldn't be able to catch him and had to start short shifting to save fuel. Had a couple of spin-offs after that (not concentrating enough) but I had a big lead over third place so there wasnt any real pressure.

Overall happy with the result, but a bit disappointed not to have put up more of a fight for first.

Looking forward to Monza!



Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: drumbstick on January 15, 2007, 11:36:39 AM +0000
Ok so that was my first EVER GTR2 race, yep that's correct I have never even done an off-line race.

So not much practice as it was quite a late decision to run and I was just using a STD set-up with the power side diff reduced by 10.

I was quite surprised by my qualify pace and although not a PB it was quite respectable.

I was really nervous about the start procedure but that seemed to go without a hitch. Then on lap 1 on the run up the hill from the old hairpin the two cars in front off me obviously got together and merged into one. I was so suprised(Been spoiled by Rfactors net code) I missed the down shift and promptly spun. Not a great start to my first race.

Got going again and after Dave spun and got back past me I found some speed and managed to stay with him for a bit. That dragged me back up to the pack and we had some intense racing for the next 20 minutes or so with people spinning and barging past each other.

Anyway I pitted with about 38 minutes to go running 12th and having not seen the GTR2 pit menu before I just hit enter. This cost me some time as they repaired damage and added fuel neither of which I needed. Cam back out behind Dave again(Who I had got past after another incident). I could keep pace with him but not close until he ran off again. Just tried to keep an even pace then and nurse the car home. Managed to pick up a place or two with people going off and crossed the line third with Dave just a couple of seconds behind.

I have to say the live track impressed me and the brake fade I was getting at the end.

As this was my first multi class race I hope I stayed out of the GT cars way and except for getting squeezed once they were all well behaved around me

Good racing with you guys i am sure I will be back

Arron


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Mojo on January 15, 2007, 12:48:17 PM +0000
I've no idea what the guy( i will not metion his name) was playing at that took me out. He must have seen us and thought about how he was going to pull back on circuit. His car was at 90 degrees almost right across track and there was nowhere to go
I'm sorry, that was all my fault. I saw you guys approaching and thought I'd make it in time, but got it all wrong  :'(


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: linco24 on January 15, 2007, 02:08:35 PM +0000
Hi all,

Another race I have missed. Still can't re-register with Orange. Thye have messed even more and BT have still to clear my line. Shame as I really wanted to race with my new wheel set-up.

Though to be fair with nearly 100 laps at Donington with the wheel, I still can't beat a 1.37 lap. Craner curves are a nightmare, can't feel whats going on with the steering and making the left right transistion is proving extremely frustrating....

How you guys manage 1.33/34's race laps is quite something

Regards
Colin


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 15, 2007, 05:31:26 PM +0000
Dave I thought you were in my pit it was so close to the entrance so was not sure thought you would be in a good position so whent round againcheers gerald ;D

Now that I've seen the replay, it's a pity we weren't in touch via TeamSpeak because I left my box literally 2 seconds after you drove past. ::)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Kerr on January 15, 2007, 06:00:05 PM +0000
Looking back at replay I'm glad after my anti virus automatically updated and minimised my game that at least my steering still worked. I did manage to pull off track and out the way.

 I forgot that when you switch off the anti virus it still searches for automatic updates. I will not do that again.

 Thank's for the apology Mojo but I must say it does not look any better in replay. These things happen and no doubt it will happen again to someone else.

 The time I lost after crash and then limping back to pit then over 2mins in pit making stop for repairs would have left me very near and if not at the front. Would have been good to have a blast with Freq.

Never mind on to the next race but don't think the lambo will be up to speed on the long straights


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: silver53 on January 15, 2007, 07:02:04 PM +0000
Hi Dave Shame  ;D. I just could not get that last 1 second out of the car ,when I pitted had about 12 laps of fuel left then had repairs I think, so was in for a long time . have not worked out how to stop repairs etc. bye fror now  ps you came past me as if I was standing still and I had 8 wing.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 15, 2007, 07:16:36 PM +0000
bye fror now  ps you came past me as if I was standing still and I had 8 wing.

I had just 5 or 6 on the wing. Had to do something to try and hang with the Porsches on the straights! ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Joss on January 15, 2007, 07:54:09 PM +0000
That was an eventful race to say the least!
Was pleased just to be in the top 6 after a CTD in Qualy whilst in 2nd or 3rd...rejoined with 10 mins left and managed to grab 3rd back on my 4th lap.
It was probably more hectic than it needed to be at the start and I think the red mist came down a little bit early on. I had a bad start to the race after dropping behind Mojo and Locotus; after their collision I spent what seemed liked half the race stuck behind the 550. I could carry more corner speed and exit faster, but Locotus was a demon on the brakes and a rocket on the straight. We had a great fight early on, and a couple of times I passed, only for him to instantly re-pass. Cracking stuff.
I couldn't get past in the normal places (Foggy esses, Melbourne Loop, Goddards, Redgate) due to his awesome braking and great speed on straights, so had to look at more difficult places, and managed to squeeze past into McLeans. Nug then made a mistake into the Old Hairpin and we had a little scrap until he made a second mistake out of Goddards and promptly pitted! Quick thinking! ;)

Fairly smooth after that, overfuelled a bit at the stop and just brought it home for my first win!   :D :D :D
Once again the NGT's were very gentlemanly, and once again I saw one or two driving off the track to avoid us....I've said before that that's not necessary, but after Mojo and Loco's shunt involving an ngt, I can see why you guys get nervous  :-\ This is one of the toughest places for an enduro and I think we got through without any major problems caused by driving, more just problems due to the track being one long corner and very narrow.

Nug and Kerr are very impressive for such new drivers; Nug also seems annoyingly nice, one of those people difficult to dislike even after an incident.  ;D 
I can see why Kerr was put in the Masters to start with. I watched some of that race and you were doing very well up until the pit problem, mid-pack GT was it? Pole by 0.5s and building a lead early on is no fluke and I'm sure that without your problem you would have had this. What's your plan for the future? Dominating Academy or mid-pack challenger in Masters?  ;D You're registered for both right?

Looking forward to Tuesday,
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Never mind on to the next race but don't think the lambo will be up to speed on the long straights
And this is only too true... :(
However, only CHEATERS swap cars for one event! I'll be in lambo#36 as per usual - maybe I'll battle with the NGT's or something  ;)

Edit: I've just realised - Nug and Kerr sound like caveman names. Are you guys racing us across time and space?  :o


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Kerr on January 16, 2007, 12:20:18 AM +0000
I will hopefully take part in both when I can. I wanted the chance to get some races under my belt to learn. Last week I think I was 5th before the pit stop problems.

During the week realised my idea of a set up was a bit wrong after a bit of reading. Messed around a little and was quicker in the academy race by 0.6 in qualifying and 0.9sec(fastest laps) in the race. Car felt so much better and easier to drive. Hopefully a few of the really fast guys can lend some tips, but got another document to read too. Find most of the online set ups useless and think half the time people only upload them to misguide people.

 Not confident about Monza. Had a quick drive tonight and lambo is about 2 sec per lap down on my Ferrari 550 set up.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Nug on January 16, 2007, 09:19:45 AM +0000
I will hopefully take part in both when I can. I wanted the chance to get some races under my belt to learn. Last week I think I was 5th before the pit stop problems.

During the week realised my idea of a set up was a bit wrong after a bit of reading. Messed around a little and was quicker in the academy race by 0.6 in qualifying and 0.9sec(fastest laps) in the race. Car felt so much better and easier to drive. Hopefully a few of the really fast guys can lend some tips, but got another document to read too. Find most of the online set ups useless and think half the time people only upload them to misguide people.

 Not confident about Monza. Had a quick drive tonight and lambo is about 2 sec per lap down on my Ferrari 550 set up.

Hi Kerr,

As I am pretty new to GTR2 I dont really know much about car setups. If you could point me in the direction of those documents your reading, I would appreciate it ;) I would especially like a few tips for Monza (in Lambo) as this seems like one of the tracks that requires a very bespoke setup!

Cheers,

Nug.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: cej on January 16, 2007, 09:40:39 AM +0000
Not trying to be an *ss or anything here, but I honestly think you should reconsider what league to join.

As it is now,it's kinda useless to have master and academy when we have drivers with masters potential in the academy league.  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Nug on January 16, 2007, 09:54:02 AM +0000
Not trying to be an *ss or anything here, but I honestly think you should reconsider what league to join.

As it is now,it's kinda useless to have master and academy when we have drivers with masters potential in the academy league.  :-\

The reason *I* joined the academy is because I am new to GTR2 and I have very little experience of online racing (I still cannot get the pitstop bit right). I also find the races in academy challenging and fun! Maybe I will go for the Masters next season, but I would like to get some races under my belt first.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 16, 2007, 09:59:00 AM +0000
As it is now,it's kinda useless to have master and academy when we have drivers with masters potential in the academy league.  :-\

The key word is "potential". I specifically put some people in the Academy because they were unknown quantities, new to us specifically and league racing in general. The Academy will by definition have a wider spread of abilities and experiences than the Masters.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: EdamSpeed on January 16, 2007, 10:07:34 AM +0000
Anyway, as was demonstrated by the Donington race, both Nug and Kerr are bloody fast, but the consistency might not be there yet. Hence it's fine for them to be in Academy.

Give the new aliens a chance to properly grow their antennae ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Joss on January 16, 2007, 10:47:22 AM +0000
As I am pretty new to GTR2 I dont really know much about car setups. If you could point me in the direction of those documents your reading, I would appreciate it ;)

Cheers,

Nug.

I wouldn't mind some "documents" either. My setup ability is woeful and I only adjust tyre pressures and wing...the thing's almost standard  :-\
Luckily I've done about a million public races on Monza (they were ALWAYS running it in GTR1), so hope I won't embarrass myself there.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Munkez on January 16, 2007, 12:05:14 PM +0000
Is it me or have the results been adjusted in some way?  ???
I seem to have finished 4th now, when i thought i had finished 5th! not that im complaining!!

Munk


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: picnic on January 16, 2007, 12:34:29 PM +0000
Yes, I lost my place due to the game taking over control of my car at the pitstop  :'(

Makes the championships more exciting I guess  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Munkez on January 16, 2007, 12:37:53 PM +0000
Yes, I lost my place due to the game taking over control of my car at the pitstop  :'(

Makes the championships more exciting I guess  :-\

So after the pitstop it was the AI driving?!?!?

I had a similar issue a week ago during a GTL league race after lap 7 of a twenty lap race music started to play AI took control, came up with race finished and the old "you must do better next time" message  :'(

ODD!


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 16, 2007, 12:55:43 PM +0000
It happened to me once before in the Season 1/2 Race of Champions. It's particularly odd because the server is set not to allow AI drivers! ::) It's a huge shame because Picnic was on for his best finish of the season, and although it helps me a little in the drivers championship it hurts us a lot in the teams battle. :(

There'll be a proper explanation in the rulings when they're published.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Jeffrey on January 16, 2007, 01:30:33 PM +0000
Sunday a guy from Simracing.nl had the same problem. After the stop, the AI took over and there was nothing he could do.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Radius on January 16, 2007, 01:44:49 PM +0000
James had that once as well, its totally ridiculous! Maybe some ppl have by "mistake" selected the AI driver from the pit board, you know the top most option..i almost did that once in a hurry.

Also in Options -> Advanced menu...theres an option for "starting driver" and "2nd driver control"..maybe set 2nd driver to "player" instead of AI. Maybe its just an option for the 24hr events but ive never personally had the AI take control.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Blunder on January 16, 2007, 05:47:27 PM +0000
Wish the AI would take over my driving!!!
Would get a better result!!!

 ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Jeffrey on January 16, 2007, 06:10:12 PM +0000
Wish the AI would take over my driving!!!
Would get a better result!!!

 ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

Shame the AI wrecks everybody out the way :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: picnic on January 16, 2007, 06:11:54 PM +0000
Wish the AI would take over my driving!!!
Would get a better result!!!

 ;D

I would hope you also got excluded from the results  :P :P :P :P

I was in the class lead when he left the pits  :o Gutted I am  :'(


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 16, 2007, 06:16:23 PM +0000
Also in Options -> Advanced menu...theres an option for "starting driver" and "2nd driver control"..maybe set 2nd driver to "player" instead of AI. Maybe its just an option for the 24hr events but ive never personally had the AI take control.

Just done an exhaustive set of tests and changing that option does the trick. Stupidly, and I don't see how this isn't a bug (and must've been carried over from GTR1), even if you disable autopilot on the dedicated server, if "Second driver control" is set to "AI" you can still select the AI driver on the pit board during a stop and have him or her drive for you. If you set it to "Player", then the pit board selection makes no difference and you drive all the time.

If you are unlucky enough to find the AI in control, just request a pit stop. The AI driver will come in and you can choose yourself on the pit board and regain control.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Radius on January 16, 2007, 06:22:11 PM +0000
 :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Kerr on January 16, 2007, 07:13:45 PM +0000
Didn't help that i was used as a brake at the chicane.
Or be knocked off by a lapping GT car that couldn't wait till we were out of the turn and on a 1/4 mile long straight.
Don't they realise that were all racing for position or what.

Yeah had the same happen to me at Goddard's before the start/finish straight.... kept going though to finish 5th i think in class!! well chuffed ;D
Did make the one mistake taking in a trip to the sand trap at Old Hairpin.... might of cost me a podium :-[

I now realise that comment was referred to me Munkez. I do apologise to you for the nudge as was my fault. I was trying hard to drive quick and thought I had the speed and it looked as if you moved wide for me. I called it wrong.

I do feel "used you as a brake" is exaggerated though. I witnessed the beholder incident and he got shunted off the track, but I merely nudged you and you lost barely a second with no damage to either car and still made the corner with ground to spare.

 It was a minimal accident but I do apologise as I should have backed off and waited. Sorry.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: picnic on January 16, 2007, 07:34:36 PM +0000
Just done an exhaustive set of tests and changing that option does the trick. Stupidly, and I don't see how this isn't a bug (and must've been carried over from GTR1), even if you disable autopilot on the dedicated server, if "Second driver control" is set to "AI" you can still select the AI driver on the pit board during a stop and have him or her drive for you. If you set it to "Player", then the pit board selection makes no difference and you drive all the time.
Nice one, off to edit that now.

If you are unlucky enough to find the AI in control, just request a pit stop. The AI driver will come in and you can choose yourself on the pit board and regain control.

I tried that but it didn't work. Could that be because I have it mapped to a button on the wheel?


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: picnic on January 16, 2007, 08:00:33 PM +0000
Interstingly too, I couldn't deselect to fix the aero damage which was what I was trying to do in the pits when it all went Pete Tong. Tonight I could, I wonder if that was because I'd already accidently changed the driver  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 16, 2007, 08:32:19 PM +0000
We do not discuss incidents in the forums. We report them to the moderators using the form on the event results page.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 16, 2007, 08:32:54 PM +0000
I tried that but it didn't work. Could that be because I have it mapped to a button on the wheel?

So do I but it worked for me...


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: LuKe#69 on January 16, 2007, 09:32:47 PM +0000
Ive just seen the results have been changed  :o ,have I missed something???


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 16, 2007, 10:29:01 PM +0000
Ive just seen the results have been changed  :o ,have I missed something???

Only about a page worth of posts. :laugh: All will become clear (or at least clearer than it is now) when the moderators report is published.


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: LuKe#69 on January 16, 2007, 11:12:26 PM +0000
Ive just seen the results have been changed  :o ,have I missed something???

Only about a page worth of posts. :laugh: All will become clear (or at least clearer than it is now) when the moderators report is published.
Ok,if you say so...  ;D  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Endurance Academy - Donington GP - Jan 14
Post by: silver53 on January 18, 2007, 10:09:13 PM +0000
Hi Dave re my PM sorry for reply thought it was for GT sprint. No Idea about this race . I thought things were driven very cleanly and again apologise if any incovienince was caused.cheers gerald