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Track: Nurburgring Nordschleife ('73 to '82)

Cars allowed: Porsche 935

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Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (6 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Not Required

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Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None.

Ok, now he's getting really sadistic.....

 :devil: MHA HA HA HA HA  :devil:

Although there is a short cut path (to avoid doing a full out lap) I have been unable to trigger the lap timer at the start/finish straight  :-\

It looks like qualy will be one out lap then one hot lap.

You should not need to pit for fuel as in my testing your good for 7 laps on a full tank.

Be a miracle if I finish this but the engine noise is beautiful when you give it the full beans.

Yes! Nordschleife, baby!

Make sure that you are using the V2.0 version of these Porsche 935's. They are easier to drive as the physics had a big overhaul. If the readme file (Porsche 935_LIESSMICH.txt) in the Porsche 935 folder has a date of 08/10/2010 23.03.2010 you have the correct version. If not, you need the download.

Definitely a miss for me  :P - would possibly be  faster in a Isuzu Bellet  ;D

I wonder, no Nurby on the server for practice yet ?

It was around 7pm German time

I have reset the server.

This is going to be madness! I did a few laps to try and set up the car, starting with my Interlagos setup from last year's race in May, but had to change almost everything.

It seems the splitter and rear wing setting do nothing for this car, so I worked to make the suspension absorb the bumps and surface gradient changes better. I also noticed that it's much easier to drive this car with auto-clutch turned on, especially on this track, as it lifts up and declutches very quickly on its own.

I had my stream running while testing, if anyone wants to have a look at my best lap (a 7:46.xxx):

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1121705872

I made additional changes to the setup after that lap, but haven't tested them yet. Should be better still, because the setup I was using on that lap in particular was a bit too soft at the front and thus too twitchy (as you'll see if you watch the recording). Here's a download link for the setup:

https://we.tl/t-pWj1RUJvCO

I wonder if anyone is going to survive this! The rear tyres wearing out so quickly is only going to make things worse after the first 2 laps.

If this is an easier to drive rework I would hate to try the original  :o
I can't "Race" with this car. I can guide it round the track at shopping speed
but it isn't racing.

When was anything at Nords "racing" ?

For me it's just trying not to bin the car.

Anyway, just wanted to say that the finishers may start chatting at the finish before I reach the end (if I reach the end) cos it may be a while.

Sorry if this combo is not to everyone's taste but I do like to challenge you lot.

I promise that the final four fixtures in this series will be more "relaxing".

After 30 mins of frustration, and careful consideration, I have reached a couple of decisions....

1) I cannot drive this car, at least not at anything like the pace it appears to want to travel at.
2) Any changes to the setup do not appear to be powerful enough to influence the suicidal tendencies of this machine.
3) this race is best described as "insanity on a stick!"

and apparently I have the "improved" and "easier to drive" version of this car.............................yeah right  :ninja: :yes: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

48.1 from me. It's tough but much fun. I hope we will be at least 6-7 cars and 2 finishers maybe :D

Results and replay now posted.

Well that was fun, Clive and I both tested the amount of damage the Porsche could take and we think it's impressive! as long as you don't lose  your front spoiler.
I like the car. In fact I wouldn't mind if there would be a series on the American tracks next season. I herewith submit this as a request.

The mrs and myself are going to enjoy the fresh sea air for a while but I'll be back and as keen as ever.

In the meantime, have fun all!

Cheers, Dan

Was wanting to give this a go, but didn't get back from an outing in time....

Grats to the podium guys and the few finishers after what was a brutal race for me. Enjoy the sea breeze Dan and see you in the autumn  ;D

Yes indeed Dan, far more fun than I was anticipating!!  Thankyou for waiting for me to extricate myself from various barriers and scenery. I need to reinstate my clutch pedal, as the current gearbox setup does not recognise neutral when the gear lever is central, it keeps the engine engaged in the most recently selected gear...so restarting a stalled engine is a nightmare!!

TBH my sole intention was to get as far as I could through the 6 laps. I know the track well from GPL, but the car was a real headache. I was slowly coming to terms with the Porsche turbo delivering a huge lump of power as the revs began to build, whereas 99% of other cars at least have a linear progression of power delivery.
Some serious tweaking of H's posted setup to find a more user friendly arrangement. I moved the diff to 10/30 with 4 preload which seemed to help me keep the car straight on corner exit and I increased the castor to help turn in.

During the race I realised that Dan must have been using far more splitter/wing than I was ( I had tried upping the wing angles in practice, but found the car too twitchy ). This became very obvious when we reached the straight and I simply blew past Dan with consummate driving skill, I felt that my skill level on the straight was superb  ;D.

My battle with Dan was fun. But as the race progressed and I became more tuned into the car...so did the damage. Add to that some very worn tyres and  the car I had on lap 6 was NOT the car I started the race with.
 A final barrier testing session at the start of lap 6 removed the front splitter, which I only discovered at the next corner...when it didn't!! There was a buttock clenching moment on the last run down the long straight when the front end lifted off  :scared:
I was very relieved to see that chequered flag  ;).


BTW re the FF saga. I have discovered that the FF appears on each alternate start of a session. Which is why I would have FF for practice, lose it for quali and it would return for the race...OR if I had joined the race with the wrong car and exited and rejoined, the pattern reversed. I still have absolutely no idea WHY that should happen, but at least now I can do something to get FF when I need it.

Had a bit of fun with Dan at first, then hit something and lost front spoiler, so couldn't even do the flat
out parts. Car might be good at a more normal track, but here was just masochism.
Very little enjoyment when the car was working, damaged it was pointless so left.  :(

So the splitter and wing settings do make a difference?? I really didn't notice it during practice, so that's puzzling. Perhaps it's a subtle difference and I didn't test it enough (definitely not full laps or even a top speed test, just a handful of corners).

Really happy with my qualifying lap, it was right on the edge (you can watch it here https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1122968121). Bogged down on the start as expected, and also oversteered, which forced me to lift up enough to drop well behind Dan and Erling, almost losing 1 more position to Dimitar as well.

Unfortunately Erling went off 2 corners later and then after having a nice 3-way battle with Dan and Dimitar, the former decided to let us through, which was a bit disappointing. Overtaking here is so difficult, even with a pace difference, plus I noticed Dan was really good through the last 1/3rd of the lap during practice when I ran behind him.

I was trying to nurture the tyres a bit and couldn't escape away from Dimitar, so when we reached the long straight at the end of lap 1, the big slipstream effect gave him a chance to attack, but he thought better of it. As I was distracted looking in my mirrors, I forgot to brake in time for the last chicane and then also changed from 2nd to neutral (button issues), which spun me around. Dimitar was now 8 seconds ahead and it was shaping up for a nice chase, but then he had his incident just a few corners later and had to retire because of damage.

After that I had a lonely race for most of the race, which made it feel like it's taking forever to do all 6 laps. Tried to entertain myself by pushing hard on lap 3 and then decided to change tyres so I can have a shot at improving my fastest lap time on the last lap. Messed up my pitstop instead by putting too much fuel in, losing a lot of time, dropping behind Erling and then spinning off and getting stuck at T4 on cold tyres. The car was handling really weird at that moment and I couldn't figure out why.

Even though I was about 22 seconds behind now, I knew Erling was going to struggle with his worn out tyres, so I just pushed as much as possible and was only 6 seconds behind when we started the last lap. He was obviously having grip issues as he kept missing his braking points and apexes, so I just waited for the right moment to go around him. I think if Erling could somehow just keep the ideal line and cover all gaps, it might have been impossible to overtake him, even with that pace differential.

Congrats to all who took part and survived, that on its own is quite an achievement with this car/track combo!

I was hoping more people would join this one, for even if it was very challenging, it was also an exciting experience trying to manage all that power around such a narrow track. I hope we drive it again some time soon and I second Dan's request to make a full championship with the car!

Correction:  It was Matt who passed you and went off a couple of corners later - I had to slam on the brakes when you got out of shape and thus lost places to Dan & Matt.  Will write more later.

Oops, sorry! I really thought it was you at the time and even after watching DD's stream recording, I was still convinced it was you  :D ::)

Yes that's why I didn't win - I stopped to have the car repainted during the race  ;D

Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2021//18082021_75Nordschleife)


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A very tough and challenging drive for sure.

Tried Hristo's setup - thanks for sharing it - but had to give up on using it, as each time I hit the depression before the uphill bit after Fuchsröhre, I lost the car.  Not enough time to try and change it, so went with another one.

Hit a tall curb in qual and spun; otherwise I might have competed with Dan for 2nd on grid.  The triumph of being about to overtake Dan at the start, along with staying ahead of Matt, which has been a real problem lately, was shortlived. When Hristo got out of shape ahead of me, I had to slam on the brakes hard, and the two gents sailed away.

Matt ran wide a few corners later and I regained that position.  Later on L1 I passed Dan, recovering from a moment.  Caught a recovering Hristo at the very end of the lap, and then passed a stuck DD early on L2.  After that the race turned lonely - believe Dan went off in sympathy with DD, and Hristo was soon gone.  Passed him in the pits at the beginning of the penultimate lap.  As I had rounded the hairpin, I saw him leaving the pits.  Didn't expect to last long, with his new tyres and my completely shot ones, but to my surprise, he didn't catch me on that lap.  Replay revealed a time consuming spin as the reason.

Beginning of the final lap, the gap was only 5 secs, and I knew it was game over.  By Schwedenkreuz he had caught up.  Kept him behind until around Wehrseifen/Ex-Mühle, where I couldn't keep a tight enough line in the corner and thus gave him enough room to go past.  With the pressure of him on my rear bumper, I kept bumping over curbs etc, which must have looked pretty pathetic.  Spun in the Karrussell, increasing the gap even more.  Even if I had managed to stay on the ideal line all the way as Hristo suggests, I would have been screwed once we hit the long straight, as I was running max wing & splitter.

Grats to Hristo on a convincing win and unbeatable pace, and to Dan & all survivors.

Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1: