SimRacing.org.uk

Grid/server capacity: 22

Track: Dijon-Prenois (GP)

Cars allowed: Any standard GTC-65 car (excluding the Ford GT40). Car roster  HERE  (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SN_M8zzJTmK-ZdBRTYxNfaLro5SP5eAk3M16EF6U5wM/edit?usp=sharing)

Note: Driver's can only choose one car make per race. No repeat drives. Applies to Round's 11 to 15.

CUP STAGE C, Round 14

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (32 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops required: NO

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None.

Look out for Matt's new series beginning this Thursday https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1631&theme=4

If I had the chance to buy the stuff I really would love to race RRRE online. Well, maybe in the near future :)

Define "Stuff"?

I have a new PC this year, and have some R3E capable bits you can have if any use

I mean cars and tracks.

Remember you only need to buy one car and not the whole set.

I'll say 2 things about RRE.

1. In my view it can be judged to be expensive.
2. The online racing system works fantastically well.

I just don't spend enough time on it to move my ranking up.

There is money to be spent, and it does build up after time
However, some of the cars in this series come free with the sim, so it could be worse
The cars (well, most of them) are good enough that I am happy to pay the price of a pint
and the tracks are also top quality, and are not so expensive that I care.

I do agree that it can be judged expensive, particularly if you are new to the sim, as there is a considerable amount of content compared to a few years ago when I first got into it. Cheapest way is to buy the car & track packs or just go the whole hog & buy the premium pack which gets you all the current content. There are also periodic sales with some huge discounts, there will probably be a Black Friday one next month. But as Matt says it is all of excellent quality & for me the best driving sim that I have tried.

Anyway, back on topic, I will most probably be taking the Elan for this race.

You have to admit that this game is expensive compared to the content, especially if you consider that you have to buy everything... We are far from AC from this point of view! :-[

AC's approach is different, a moddable platform, they rely on modders to provide additional content. RRRE seems to be more in the direction of iRacing (minus the subscription) and to some extent rFactor 2 (paid DLCs).

Last time I tried RRRE was when they released the 3 90s F1 cars (V8, V10 and V12) and they had a free trial for a few laps. I even made an onboard video of those. Handling felt good, but can't really judge the sim without giving it a proper go on a proper track (the free trial one is just weird). I hope they improved the physics further by now.

Have you guys tried Project Cars 2 btw? I think with the right car parameters, it feels really good. It's the only sim I've tried with a VR set 2 years ago and it was an amazing experience.

Automobilista 2 uses the PC2 physics engine and seems promising too, but I haven't tried that one yet.

Actually H I think they improve the physics last month or maybe it was the FFB... hm, but there was a big update. I test one car at Malaysia and it was amazing. One of the default cars. I made a video as well.

Yes the FFB got a major overhaul recently, I wasn't too impressed initially but have grown to like it. The car physics are constantly getting updated, mostly for the better although some people are not so keen. I suppose people get accustomed to how something feels & don't like it being changed.

I maybe wrong but I seem to think you now have a choice of tracks to test drive cars on, rather than just the one.

I think RRE is up there in terms of the driving physics, feels absolutely as good as anything I have ever tried on my wheel. I'm a big fan, and do spend some time on the ranked servers when I can, if only there was more classic content and less wings.....

My own view, I would rather pay a game dev for dlc than buy the pay mods for AC done by part time modders that would have done it for free for GTL back in the day. Has to be guaranteed quality for it to be worth paying for. Just my opinion.

I'm with you Hristo, PCars2 is actually great fun to drive in my view, although RRE offers better granular feedback for sure.

ACC I also have, and have spent little time in it. Feedback not as good for sure, in fact a little lacking in my view.

Have a dinner invitation tonight, so will unfortunately have to miss this one.

PC2 fanboy here. I have mentioned it once or twice  ::)   https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=18672.msg335972#msg335972

Best single player career mode ever!

Pretty much completed it! Good fun.

Ahh, great! I was not active on SROU during that time

Enjoy your night out Erling, but you have already sown up the series, so no damage.

Results and replay now posted.

Here's another PC2 fanboy. great sim.
Oh btw, Great drive in the Lotus Geoffers and a well deserved victory.

Thanks Geoff, had a good time; and yes surprisingly it will have no effect on my final standing in the series.  Congrats on the race win!

i have never been convinced by pc2.  Impossible to have a good feeling at the wheel.  Bad Ffb And then disappointed with the content, too limited.  It's stupid to offer several categories but with only one car ... we can't even make a starting grid.

Quite a fun race after exploring the gravel trap at T1. Quite enjoyed trying to catch back up, it taking over half the race to reach Dan in his Cobra. Great drive in that beast around Dijon Dan & Tony had pretty good pace in it too. Why did you drop back so far Tony, did you stop for new tyres?

Congrats to Dan & Matt on the podium.  :thumbup2: :thumbup2:

Yes, changed my tyres at half distance.

Yes, and it almost wasn't profitable... ;) :-[

True  :no:

Result (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2021//18102021_Dijon)


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Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1:

I reinstalled RRR, and so did PCars2... ::)
I hadn't really touched these games for a long time.
I preferred the abundant content of AC or GTL

But with a little effort for the settings, these 2 sims seems indeed a little above except, still for the content, inferior but of better quality. (Pcars, what's the point to deliver only one F1 67 or one CanAm car... ???)

A preference for Pcars in the feeling and the FFB after adjustment, RRR made multiple updates at this level, without being really convincing...

In short, I will have to find 2 more evenings in the week for these 2 sims... ;) ;D

(when I speak about contents of these sims, I speak only for what is "vintage"! ;))

Yes Chris, the amount of classic content is always a problem for me also. RRE for example has multiple years of modern DTM stuff, none of which are massively different from each other really, and a whole host of stuff I will probably never drive like the godawful FWD modern touring cars, but not a single Lotus Cortina in sight, licencing issues maybe......For the record RRE does have wider classic content than the others I think, but you could drive articulated lorries through the gaps.....

I use the standard game presets in the Fanalab app for both RRE and PCars2, gives good FFB for me on my CSW2.5.

I would wish for an updated GTL, or a modern standalone game based on the Power & Glory mod, as the ultimate holy grail. Unfortunately no game devs have gone that route >:(, not enough demand I guess.

Agreed. Only thing I would disagree on is the WTCC cars work really well for close racing that we look for in our championships
I ran a WTCC series a while ago and it went well. FWD is personal preference, but the R3E ones do work nicely

I used to run some P&G series, and I would spend hours trying to get a balanced choice of cars, only to find a good pork herder
would be 2 secs faster with a car I thought to be equal to others. One of the things about R3E I like is that most of
the classes are fairly well balanced, though there are some huge exceptions.

Yes RRE do seem to be following the trend of all the other major sims of lots of modern GT & Touring Car content, which after all does seem the most popular. I do think as probably the smallest of the main sims that they would do better by carving their own niche by concentrating more on the historical content than adding things like the latest version of this that or other 911, R8 or AMG GT. There are already plenty of those, but being German based I guess that is inevitable.

Having said all that I have come to enjoy driving a lot of the modern content.