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Title: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Cookie on July 22, 2021, 04:04:57 PM +0100
Season Break 38/39 - Fun + Test – 1967 SCX - Le Mans by day

Once again for the last time prevented football fans...

We are going to Le Mans, we will be racing the day version to test the new patch stability.
The 24 Hours of Le Mans is the world's oldest active sports car race in endurance racing, held annually since 1923 near the town of Le Mans, France. It is one of the most prestigious automobile races in the world and is often called the "Grand Prix of Endurance and Efficiency". The event represents one leg of the Triple Crown of Motorsport; other events being the Indianapolis 500, and the Monaco Grand Prix.

Rolling Start!

Start procedure:
Overtaking is prohibited until curve T4 - Tertre Rouge !!!

Flagman gives the start. Leader drives fast to the Tertre Rouge...

This car/track combi had several problems that should be solved by the new
Track Gap Freeze Fix Patch v.09 (http://srmz.net/index.php?s=1d55bf5d3d0f891eb7da6c3f35d87a26&showtopic=14247)
Put the .xml in the ../GPLSecrets/GEM+/Options/ folder and activate it in GEM for all mods!

Race list = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_8_60fps
IP address Server = TBA
Password = see above (#post_event_password)
GPL Mod = SCX
Damage model = Intermediate
60fps Patch = 60fpsV2newmod
Track directory = bsarthe
Qualifying starts = 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race starts = ~ 21:30 UK time
Race length = 16 laps
Replay = here (https://www.mediafire.com/file/5oh48ibqtofb9pz/UKGPL_8__60fps.2021.07.25.23.33.rpy.7z/file)


Handicapping:
There will be no handicapping.  Drivers have a free choice of chassis. Unlimited number of Shift-Rs are allowed with no need to make a Stop and Go.

This is a fun race so incidents will not be moderated but please drive carefully and with consideration for others.

Please, excepting emergencies, no chat until Session Completed in qualification. No chat in the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

GLA


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Phil Thornton on July 22, 2021, 07:28:13 PM +0100
Thanks for running this again Cookie, I missed the last one. I'll be there this time  :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Claudio Navonne on July 22, 2021, 10:18:26 PM +0100
I will be there again, I am very interested in these tests.
Why not try Suzuka 2000? A great track


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Pete Bennett on July 23, 2021, 12:25:55 PM +0100
Lovely. I'll work out how to use the wing on the Chap 2F. Is it operated by a toggle on/off switch or do you have to hold the button down to activate it?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: dave curtis on July 23, 2021, 01:20:27 PM +0100
Lovely. I'll work out how to use the wing on the Chap 2F. Is it operated by a toggle on/off switch or do you have to hold the button down to activate it?

You what?!


But from looking at http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=12615 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=12615) you are right!
Quote
This mod allows the player to control the wing position dynamically while driving using either the keyboard, steering wheel buttons, or the clutch pedal.


From the readme at http://sportscars67.gplworld.de/ (http://sportscars67.gplworld.de/)   looks as though it uses the key/button configured in controls for view pit board.
Keep the button depressed,  it's not a toggle.

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Pete Bennett on July 23, 2021, 01:39:00 PM +0100
Hi Dave. No toggle so I've assigned right flappy paddle to "c" so that I can still change gear (I use clutch and H-shifter) with left hand (I drive a right-hand drive car in R/L) whilst operating the wing. Let's see what top speed is down the Mulsanne Straight.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: AnGex on July 23, 2021, 01:41:43 PM +0100
... I am very interested in these tests.
Why not try Suzuka 2000? ...

Good idea and don't forget Assen.  :)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Cookie on July 23, 2021, 02:16:50 PM +0100
Lovely. I'll work out how to use the wing on the Chap 2F. Is it operated by a toggle on/off switch or do you have to hold the button down to activate it?

Best is to use the 2F gearbox as it was, it had an automatic clutch and this pedal was used to move the wing.

So on a straight you push both pedals to the floor...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Pete Bennett on July 23, 2021, 04:32:07 PM +0100
I've made a new Mainback with the Chap at LeMans http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=13869&st=20#entry159430


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Pete Bennett on July 24, 2021, 08:39:12 AM +0100

Best is to use the 2F gearbox as it was, it had an automatic clutch and this pedal was used to move the wing.

So on a straight you push both pedals to the floor...

Does that mean that you select automatic shifting from the GPL menus? Personally, I'd prefer to drive a manual but I may just try this for fun.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Cookie on July 24, 2021, 10:27:53 AM +0100
No, Chaps had no automatic shifting but an electric clutch.

I know this from the old Beetles with this kind of clutch, when you touched the shifter the clutch disengaged.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Phil Thornton on July 25, 2021, 10:56:52 PM +0100
Thanks for running the server Cookie, no freeze problems as far as I know.  :clap:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Doni Yourth on July 26, 2021, 12:11:01 AM +0100
Track ran faultlessly here.  Only trouble was a duff engine after side-swiping Greg on the pit straight and we both went off a ton.  Sorry, GT.  Largely my fault.  Had to endure 14 laps on seven cylinders.  Some fun trying to hang onto Phil's Mk4 but without the extra beans under the hood, it was a lost cause.

TY for hosting.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Jani Posta on July 26, 2021, 07:09:56 AM +0100
A slipstream event can turn into something boring easily, but not at Le Mans in a Porsche! The race was long enough to feel like an endurance event instead of a sprint test, and sitting in a slow “GT3“ car was still fun.

Congrats to the winner and podium finishers. Having this patch, I must say from now we are all winners at Le Mans :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: EvilClive on July 26, 2021, 09:57:10 AM +0100
I took the MK4 simply because I wanted to be sure there would be as many different cars as possible on the grid for this test. I fully expected to see more Chapps chosen for this race and was surprised that so many opted for the MK4 Ford tow truck.

The track was faultless and I just wish my driving could have been as good  :-\. too many offs and mistakes with a setup  that was decidedly undecided mid corner, but absolutely magic in getting that awesome 7 litre power onto the tarmac.

The only observation that I can make probably has nothing to do with the track fix patch, but my Pribluda was having a nervous breakdown at times.

Once I saw 3 "Phil Thorntons" . One was ahead and two were behind me, and then one morphed into a Doni ??? Cars that were ahead on track suddenly were behind me by 300mtrs before jumping ahead again lol. It did make things difficult working out my actual race position. But  like I said this is another issue with Prib abd nothing to do with the Antifreeze Patch.

Thanks to Lee and Ginetto for finally killing the gremlin that afflicted so many good tracks.   :thumbup2: :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Claudio Navonne on July 26, 2021, 10:39:16 AM +0100
Thank you for organizing this race to test the patch. In my case it worked perfectly with stable 60 fps throughout the whole track.
As for the race I had an entertaining fight with Axel, but my Chaparral was pretty beat up, and when I decided to calm down and settle for 2nd place, I lost concentration and had two accidents that forced me to do 2 shift-r and I arrived 5th.
As always, I can't download the replay, maybe it's the browser, I use Firefox.
Thanks for organizing this.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Cookie on July 26, 2021, 11:10:19 AM +0100
Yeah, great racing fun  ;D

I was lucky...

Replay should work now ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Pete Bennett on July 26, 2021, 12:12:12 PM +0100
I was happily chasing Jonny O for the lead when I became engrossed in Pribluda and then forgot to brake entirely for a bend. I had to Reset putting me back in about 5th. Surprising to see that Jonny threw himself off at the very next bend. Perhaps he was watching me in his mirror. Shame he later quit the race.

More than happy with a podium and had some great racing with Angex.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Doni Yourth on July 26, 2021, 12:53:26 PM +0100
Please allow me to make a correction to my previous post above.  For, "Largely my fault", please insert, 'Totally my fault'.  Exiting White House, I had a Ferrari pull out to pass on my right and I took a peek at it with my 'Look Right' button on my Logi G25 steering wheel.  As has happened before...see Phil vs Doni, GP55 race start at Monaco some years back..., it would seem that I made an involuntary steering input to the right that set up the collision.  Sorry again, Greg.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: maddog on July 26, 2021, 05:45:35 PM +0100
. . . . .  I took a peek at it with my 'Look Right' button on my Logi G25 steering wheel. . . . .  
I learned how best to use glance buttons against the Ai.  A very rapid one second glance prevents lateral panic. 8)  I use it most at race starts, where stereo sound can be overwhelmed.  Less useful to those using a strange FOV, where the view has been modified.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: Leo Menegucci on July 27, 2021, 12:01:20 AM +0100
First time out with the sports cars. Very different.

Was I (dark green Lola) blinking/warping?

In the matter of testing,is there any street circuit in mind? I miss those.

And a question, have you guys ever tryed the weather patch (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=11768 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=11768))? Does it work on line? I have so much fun practicing with it off line.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: JonnyO on July 27, 2021, 03:31:19 PM +0100
 Congrats podium!

 When I was a little alone I lost concentration and got stuck in the mountain of sand. I couldn't go and I made a shiftr to take the car to the pits safely.
  I can't go on after a shiftr, Doni would kill me, it hurts our religious principles!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: AnGex on July 27, 2021, 08:36:31 PM +0100
...

More than happy with a podium and had some great racing with Angex.

Same here.  :) Very good  :fencing: with you! In the end I was lucky to get the second spot.  ;)
No technical problems all in all.  8)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 38 - SCX - Test - Le Mans by day - Jul 25
Post by: GregT on July 28, 2021, 03:13:22 AM +0100
Congrats Axel, Andreas, and Pete! Nice job guys.

I had a Ferrari pull out to pass on my right. Sorry again, Greg.

It's no big deal Doni. I don't expect you to be perfect. You did surprise me. And you might have got a, "what the hell?" out of me. I wondered if I made a mistake and didn't leave you at least half the track. I looked at the mechanical report and it listed no damage for me but I struggled with the car's cornering the next 2 laps. It's shame you picked up an engine problem from the incident. What's the worse thing for you is that it was unlikely I could have passed. I was expecting to have to back off before Dunlop since you had a tow and my acceleration wasn't very good in 4th and 5th gear.

Clive, how did you like that pass at Mulsanne? I braked early but no where near as early as I needed to. Lucky for you that I have a lot of experience at LeMans and quickly knew I was in trouble. I'm sure glad you didn't make a mistake and drift towards the left. I'd have nailed you then.

The Ferrari is a better demolition derby car than I thought. I beat the hell out of it. Doni helped me the first time. I hit the wall hard at Maison Blanche twice. And Renato had trouble in front of me at Dunlop and when I tried to avoid him I hit the outside wall so hard I'm surprised I didn't lose a wheel. That mistake hurt though. I was down 7 mph on my top speed and that added 3-4 seconds to my lap times. Without the engine problem I'd have caught Andreas and Pete quickly but that doesn't mean I'd have ever been able to pass them.

I'm pleased with the Ferrari's durability but my setup still sucks. I need to start over with it. It's consistency is horrible and it's often unpredictable near the apex of turns. I think I might need a softer suspension and higher tire pressures. I'm ready to do it again and I'll stay that way until I get the Ferrari driving the way I want. :)

I don't know if it's my imagination or not. I've often thought I'm more likely to get a disconnect or screen freeze when I'm inconsistent and have accidents. If that's true, I tested the patch well. It's nice to see that this patch seems to be working well.

  I can't go on after a shiftr, Doni would kill me, it hurts our religious principles!

:lol: That made me laugh. I try my best to avoid resets but I use them if I have to. It's a shame you beached that whale. It's also a shame I lacked the skill to try to use you and Clive's slipstream for a large portion of the race. The Ferrari is capable of at least 3:18s with a good slipstream.

Thanks for the fun guys.