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Title: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 18, 2007, 03:14:49 PM +0000
Practice 1:20:15(10 mins)full time drivers only
Practice 2:20:25(10 mins)reserves may join too
Qual 2:20:35(20 mins)
Race:20:55(21 laps; approximately 40 minutes)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any G2 or NGT from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.2 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) (see this thread (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2228.0)) (G2 cars will not score points).
Weather: Dry
Track: Monza GP 2004
Race Start Time 14:00

Server: UKGTR NGT Masters
Password: here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2311)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=35).
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers should remember that they get only two free changes of car in each series.
(5) The race will be based on distance, not time, to avoid a premature end.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Enzo on January 21, 2007, 09:59:14 PM +0000
if theres room for this i would like to avenge my disco in the enduro and whoop some booty here :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Jeffrey on January 21, 2007, 10:36:01 PM +0000
:-[ Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, a race to forget and to wipe from memory, car just snapped on warm-up luckily remembered I had to rejoin in last.....oh goody!
Utterly pathetic, an abortion of a set-up, car drove like a ruddy pogo stick (my fault just didn't find time to really get a good one) and it just went from bad to worse tbh.

Ah well I live and learn.  Muppet.

OMG, Madd looks into the future ;D. People that qualify behind Madd, be carefull in the warm-up lap, as he will spin ;) ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: JonM_uk on January 21, 2007, 10:38:37 PM +0000
ROFL :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Nevski on January 22, 2007, 10:55:46 PM +0000
It says 21:55 as the race start time. Is this to allow drivers to jump in after running the academy race, or just a misprint?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Jeffrey on January 22, 2007, 10:58:50 PM +0000
It says 21:55 as the race start time. Is this to allow drivers to jump in after running the academy race, or just a misprint?

Typo as qually is 20 minutes and starts at 20:35. Good spot tho, Dave was sleeping again  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 22, 2007, 10:59:58 PM +0000
Yep, finger trouble, now correctrf. :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Radius on January 22, 2007, 11:11:55 PM +0000
Its that Dance mat that does it to him i tell ya!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Jeffrey on January 22, 2007, 11:15:33 PM +0000
Its that Dance mat that does it to him i tell ya!

 :lol: He attached that mat to his keyboard and dances around to type. Oh man, can I see the picture of that  :yes: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: cej on January 23, 2007, 08:39:53 AM +0000
 :punk:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Truetom on January 23, 2007, 10:01:58 AM +0000
Nice motivation from you guys to post helpful pictures in the future.  ;)

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Simon Gymer on January 23, 2007, 03:35:39 PM +0000
Hmm, I think after my win at the Endurance race in my M3, I will go from hero to zero in this one with my trusty TVR. Not particularly suited to Monza, but I'll give it a go. :wheelchair:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Jimmie on January 23, 2007, 09:30:11 PM +0000
I got cramp in my left knee, in the nerve or tendon dunno really... Guess cause it's doing nothing on the long straights waiting above the pedal.
But it started hurting more and more, and I started missing my braking points cause of a pain reflex lol, so had to give up :'(
Gotta make a foot rest, cause this was real bad!

Sorry Dixon for the touch at 2nd bend of the first chicane.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: JonM_uk on January 23, 2007, 09:37:32 PM +0000
Well that was pretty cack for me.In qually all my pit screen text disappeared, Qualified in about 9th I think.Did a 1-49-6. Got on to the grid and I was placed 31 out of 25 :( Had a great run up through the field but I didn't know what lap or postion I was in. No lap times either. Had some great fights with different ppl. could name them as my TAB button wouldn't produce the name tags. Had a few changes of paintwork with the Legends boys. Got back going again then  GTR2 crashed :( Everything that could've gone wrong did. Really enjoyed the race though, it was great stuff while it lasted 8) When GTR2 crashed I had a 28CDM car behind me. I hope you and your car were not affected by me. Sorry if you were :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Keith_D on January 23, 2007, 09:48:47 PM +0000
I got cramp in my left knee, in the nerve or tendon dunno really... Guess cause it's doing nothing on the long straights waiting above the pedal.
But it started hurting more and more, and I started missing my braking points cause of a pain reflex lol, so had to give up :'(
Gotta make a foot rest, cause this was real bad!

Sorry Dixon for the touch at 2nd bend of the first chicane.

Np Jimmie


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: popabawa on January 23, 2007, 09:53:29 PM +0000
Easily my best result of the season, 9th ;D

Had a shocking first half of the race, it took me a while to get up to my pace and made a couple of silly mistakes, one to let Shark through after I'd slipped past him. Dammit  >:( :D

Drove a pretty solid second half of the race, fighting off challenges from Flybri and Paulo (I think) before I finally managed to get in touch with Paul968, PaulW & Shark right at the end, another couple of laps there would have been really interesting as I don't thing the Paul's had much in the way of tyres left!

Great race, I'm so happy to finally put some points on the board  :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Simon Gymer on January 23, 2007, 09:54:25 PM +0000
That was another great race. I may actually start liking Monza soon. 8) Had another good battle with PaulH in his Porker. My TVR was absolutely flying down the straights, was a complete shock. Gizmo says it has a really lo drag co-efficient, or some such mumbo jumbo.  ;) It was a little slow on the drive out but once it got going the top speed just kept climbing and climbing. Was very good passing Paul's 911 quite a few times. Those 911s need a lesson in speed occasionally!  8) 8) Ran same wing as I did on the M3 (1-3) and it had a higher top speed than the BMW by 2mph (173mph).

I think I qualified 17th and finished 6th. Was a really good race car, but a few tenth in qually meant I was nearer the tail end than the front end to start off.

Thanks to Picnic for the setup. Tweaked a bit, but base is pretty similar.

I think our first "big" team points for Team Shark Junior in this division as Leuven finished just ahead of me in his 911 which should push us past the Kerb Crawlers I think. Well done Leuven and nice win Jeff.

P.S. Was some oddities with the server at times. About 2 laps from the end all the cars dissappeared for about 4 seconds and then reappeared.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: RS on January 23, 2007, 09:56:47 PM +0000
Well I am glad I practiced for that, what a disaster. Couldn't get near a decent time in qually, ended up 9th or 10th or something, started race that was going ok 6th, 7th keeping up with the guys then I thought the car felt awful, real slidy, then looked at tyre temps (120 Degrees) on the rear, I 'd left softs on, well by about lap ten car had massive oversteer into every corner making the tyres hot, so I thought I would pit in, then proceeded to fill the car back up to 69 litres, went out only to be lapped by my team mate........ And to top it all I turned down a night out drinking with my mates from work to compete.... What an idiot !!  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: BigG on January 23, 2007, 10:01:55 PM +0000
Well that was fun, How close was that qually session. Good Stuff. So a poor time and I was 21st! LOL Average start but keep thing clean. Saw a small crash at the first chicane and gained 3-4 places so was happy with that. But now dreading some of the Aliens on my arse, after MY place! Made a few mistakes but was otherwise ok to bring it home 12th. So some more little points gained.

Good racing guys and Grats to the Podium.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Jeffrey on January 23, 2007, 10:02:17 PM +0000
Qualification was amazing. I thought a 1:48 would be good, but many others were doing them :o. Finally got 2nd, great lap James!

The start of the race was tough. I had to brake very early because of the BiT infront of me, so that surprised CJ a few times behind me (sorry, I couldn't brake later :-[). The BiT was impossible to overtake, at the straight it would fly away, creating a gap which was to big to outbrake.

At some point James made a small mistake at Variante Ascari and I was on his outside. We both lost massive speed because of that and CJ and Rat were right behind us. Flying towards Parabolica with the 4 of us :o.

The 2nd half of the race, after passing James, I had CJ behind me. He was faster and would have overtaken me, but he wanted to share his splitter with a hot chick after Ascari. I saw her too, and was thinking of doing the same a few times ;).

Great result for Team Shark junior  :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: CeeJay on January 23, 2007, 10:03:14 PM +0000
Typical Monza for me, either make or break ::)
Drove mostly in anger being frustrated over the Porsches (specially the biturbos) speed, I could take the RSRs draft but when I pulled out of slipstream it just zoomed off ???.

Anyway after halfway point it was finally down to me and Jeffrey. Was clear that he was starting to struggle alot in the faster turns, was alrdy defending inside lines. Think I got abit too eager, followed him very close out of Ascari but clipped the curb and sent the car flying into the wall. Should prolly have been more patience since was still 7 laps to go at that time and I was clearly faster everywhere expect on the straits, so couldve been some intense last laps me think  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: PaulW on January 23, 2007, 10:09:27 PM +0000
Good fun- I do love a nice fast circuit and Bi-Turbo combo. Nice to see the car get a 2nd and 3rd in other hands too :wub:

I had a more sensible wing set-up than with the endurance race and was rewarded with more pace. Quallied 10th and finished 7th in the end which is pretty gratifying after a torrid season. The rears were absolutely cooked by the end and I had a stupid spin on the penultimate late to let Shark past into 6th.

Apologies to Jon for the contact at Parabolica- I could see you behind but with a "21" over your head which was very confusing- couldn't decide if it was a game error and your were actually racing me or you were the fastest back marker I'd ever seen  ??? I expected you to have a bit more speed in the corner after passing me, safe in the knowledge that the BT is the slowest thing on the track in the corners, but caught you up as we exited.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: PaulW on January 23, 2007, 10:12:12 PM +0000
Have you changed to the Shark Junior team now Shark? I thought your car was red, or have I got the skins mixed up..


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: picnic on January 23, 2007, 10:21:47 PM +0000
Replay (http://ukgtr.simracing.org.uk/Monza%20-%20NGT%20Sprint%20Masters%20070123.zip) and Provisional Results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=253) are available


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Radius on January 23, 2007, 10:23:44 PM +0000
lol that biturbo is something else...i though id give it a whirl this race and i was happy to be close to James as he's well used to the car by now.

ahh good battles there and happy with 2nd as i forgot to set fronts to softs (that Ive been practicing with) before race start and the medium fronts were not nice at all...but 1st few laps went good fighting with those bloody alien types again and the lap pace was pretty even between us 4!!

So my car only really felt pushable with 6 laps to go lol so i could consolidate my position no problem after that.

Again very mature and professional driving and VERY MUCH ON THE LIMIT!!!!  8) ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Jeffrey on January 23, 2007, 10:24:02 PM +0000


Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Monza NGT 23-01-2007 MAS/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 23, 2007, 10:27:55 PM +0000
P.S. Was some oddities with the server at times. About 2 laps from the end all the cars dissappeared for about 4 seconds and then reappeared.

Same thing happened to the Academy server - I assumed it was the Masters writing its replay but perhaps not. ???


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: JonM_uk on January 23, 2007, 10:34:59 PM +0000
NP's Paul. It was a very strange bug I think. My lap count was on 1 all the time ??? But I wasn't getting any blue flags when passing people but I guess that's because the whole thing(lcd) wasn't working for me, except the fuel. With hindsight I probably should've just pressed esc on the start grid to avoid any confusion. I see I didn't post any official laps or lap time either, Must've been invisible to the server or something ??? Guess I can chalk this one down to experience :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Jimmie on January 23, 2007, 10:39:12 PM +0000
NP's Paul. It was a very strange bug I think. My lap count was on 1 all the time ??? But I wasn't getting any blue flags when passing people but I guess that's because the whole thing(lcd) wasn't working for me, except the fuel. With hindsight I probably should've just pressed esc on the start grid to avoid any confusion. I see I didn't post any official laps or lap time either, Must've been invisible to the server or something ??? Guess I can chalk this one down to experience :)

When you drove past me after my off track moment, you had #23 next to your name, I was like wtf?! am I that far behind, but then I saw the numbers of other players and they were 15 and 16 :)
I also saw the blue flag waving when chasing you for a moment, very odd bug indeed! :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Mark J on January 23, 2007, 10:42:49 PM +0000
I had Jan disapearing and reapearing in front of me at one point, and JonM appeared behind me after about 3 laps with 22nd? above him...dont know where he came from  ???

Had a shockingly bad race, no idea whats going wrong with my setups between off and online. Yesterday i was pumping in regular 1:50's and 51's with full 45min fuel and today i cant go any faster than a mid 1:52..wtf ???

Got involved in someone else's crash down at 1st chicane and ended up in a 4 car crash as other cars joined the melee, ...wheres the yellow flags when you need them ::)

Made crazy amateur errors of going off at Parabolica twice  :-[, though one of those was because i got transfixed watching Mark Mc in front of me just about stop himself doing it..so i showed him how its done in the process ::) :surrender:

I have not left Monza a happy chappy after 2 bad races there this week  :'(

Congrats to my teamies on their splendid results..hurrah !  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 23, 2007, 11:02:05 PM +0000
NP's Paul. It was a very strange bug I think. My lap count was on 1 all the time ??? But I wasn't getting any blue flags when passing people but I guess that's because the whole thing(lcd) wasn't working for me, except the fuel. With hindsight I probably should've just pressed esc on the start grid to avoid any confusion. I see I didn't post any official laps or lap time either, Must've been invisible to the server or something ??? Guess I can chalk this one down to experience :)

If you were completely forgotten by the server, post an incident report stating what you think your correct position was, how many laps you finished and the gap to the car ahead or behind (or both) and we'll correct the results.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Simon Gymer on January 23, 2007, 11:49:55 PM +0000
Have you changed to the Shark Junior team now Shark? I thought your car was red, or have I got the skins mixed up..

I race for Team Shark Junior in the NGT Sprint Masters and the GT Sprint races and Team Shark in all the others. Leuven also races Team Shark Junior in the NGT Sprint Masters and Team Shark in all the others.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: JonM_uk on January 24, 2007, 07:09:34 AM +0000
The game crashed to desktop I think just after halfway so it's not worth the effort :( But thankyou anyway :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: mo on January 24, 2007, 12:03:27 PM +0000
Sounds like a nightmare race Jon, can only get better by the sounds of it so here's hoping for a better race at Hock.

Race for me was very tough but enjoyable. The pace up front was amazing and after dropping back 5 secs behind the leaders I couldn't claw back the time.
Had some great racing again with Leuven, Martin and Andy as we all had identical pace. With low wing I think I had the advantage on the straights which was a nice buffer, but by the time I got round the Lesmos and Ascari I was under pressure again.
Myself and Martin exchanged some paint in the middle of Ascari at one point but luckily we both stayed on track to continue our battle which I really enjoyed.
Eventually I pushed too hard trying to catch the bi-turbos infront and had a huge smash at Ascari which ended my race. I actually flipped the car right across the track and I think that Martin actually drove underneath me as I flew through the air.
I then had a never ending pitstop and retired shortly after.

Grats to Ruskus on another fine win  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Radius on January 24, 2007, 12:21:57 PM +0000
Was the fuel calc off abit for anyone? Maybe just speaking for the biT but thank goodness i added 2 laps extra fuel as i had 0.7 left in tank at the end! ..and thats with some major shortshifting for last two laps.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on January 24, 2007, 01:10:40 PM +0000
Was the fuel calc off abit for anyone? Maybe just speaking for the biT but thank goodness i added 2 laps extra fuel as i had 0.7 left in tank at the end! ..and thats with some major shortshifting for last two laps.

I never trust the in-game numbers. They're off slightly more than usual because of the ballasts but they're not that accurate to start with.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Aagramn on January 24, 2007, 08:55:50 PM +0000
Bad race for me. Apologies to Pedro for the bump on the 2nd lap  :(, I retired after that.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 4 Sprint NGT Masters - Monza (GP) - Jan 23
Post by: Martin Steinmetz on January 24, 2007, 09:44:36 PM +0000
Myself and Martin exchanged some paint in the middle of Ascari at one point but luckily we both stayed on track to continue our battle which I really enjoyed.

Only enjoyable moment of the race for me, was taking a huge risk there, but it gladly we both made it through . ;-)
Everything else was terribly boring, NGTs on Monza don't do it for me. :-/