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Title: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 03, 2007, 06:21:02 PM +0000
All members welcome.

Practice: 20:15 (15 mins)
Qualifying: 20:30 (20 mins)
Race: 20:50 (36 laps = ~40 mins)

Cars allowed: Ford Escort, Porsche 914
Time of Day Setting: 10:00

Server: UKGTL GTC-76 Cup; in the event that the lobby is unavailable, connect using Direct IP, entering games.avonrise.co.uk in the Add IP box
Password: See this post (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2686.0)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7).
(3) General information on the ladder can be found on the series home page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=47).
(4) The season will be run using a UKGTL carpack v1.2 (download (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) which will need to be installed prior to racing.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 Series B (GTC-TC-76) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Mr.BMW on February 09, 2007, 10:25:00 AM +0000
What times you guys running on this track, I wanna know how many minutes I need to shave off my lap times.


I can't get this freaking porche to stop bouncing so much on this track.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 Series B (GTC-TC-76) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 09, 2007, 11:07:50 AM +0000
GTLRank says Escorts are around the 1:05 mark and 914s are around the 1:06 mark.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 Series B (GTC-TC-76) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Mr.BMW on February 10, 2007, 05:18:57 AM +0000
Gah, 3 seconds off pace, and all this bouncing is driving me insane! >:(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 Series B (GTC-TC-76) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Nevski on February 10, 2007, 09:03:26 AM +0000
Try adjusting your bump and rebound.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 Series B (GTC-TC-76) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Mr.BMW on February 10, 2007, 09:21:21 PM +0000
I have been, it's not helping to much.

If I try to stiffen the suspension, my understeer is ugly and I slide everywhere - and still doesn't help the bouncing to much.

Normally I wouldn't care about a little bouncing, but on the long straight I start to bounce so bad that I lose traction and actually lose some speed, and in some cases will cause me to spin out when going over the hill :/


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 Series B (GTC-TC-76) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Mark J on February 12, 2007, 12:46:25 PM +0000
GTLRank says Escorts are around the 1:05 mark and 914s are around the 1:06 mark.

One sec a lap disadvantage? How did these two cars compare in race 1? (i missed it). Thought the escort and CSL would be a more even match for a series? Hoping to make this weeks race.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 Series B (GTC-TC-76) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 12, 2007, 02:37:49 PM +0000
Thought the escort and CSL would be a more even match for a series? Hoping to make this weeks race.

Well I asked for car combination suggestions and hardly got any. Anyone would think nobody was actually bothered about racing GTL...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 Series B (GTC-TC-76) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 12, 2007, 09:02:26 PM +0000
An alien can make up the time, but it's not a problem most people in the same car, it's the racing that counts. Save the controversy and do single make races, a different car every week.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 Series B (GTC-TC-76) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 12, 2007, 10:04:21 PM +0000
Save the controversy and do single make races, a different car every week.  ;D

That won't stop the controversy. Some of us hate driving at least half the cars!

Unless somebody else steps forward to properly organise GTL races you'll have to put up/make do with whatever I have time to set up.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 Series B (GTC-TC-76) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Mr.BMW on February 13, 2007, 02:13:46 AM +0000
I saw we all just drive CSLs, Panteras, and GT40s  :P


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 Series B (GTC-TC-76) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 13, 2007, 08:36:04 AM +0000
Unless somebody else steps forward to properly organise GTL races you'll have to put up/make do with whatever I have time to set up.

Ok, I'll take up organising the GTL races again. I have more time now I've stopped painting cars. Can you point me towards what the championship format is, so I can work out what races we need and for when to schedule them?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Blunder on February 15, 2007, 07:25:36 AM +0000
Keep up the good work guys! I'm enjoying it!!

( Apart from the last race ! )

M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Madd-RIP on February 15, 2007, 07:11:13 PM +0000
I may try and make this one, hopefully the race will finish in time!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 15, 2007, 08:31:41 PM +0000
*BUMP*  :P


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Oilseal on February 15, 2007, 08:45:57 PM +0000
For the second week in a row I have been unable to join the racing. The problem seems to be when the drivers are loading. Suddenly I crash back to desktop and Microsoft wants me to send a message as I have encountered an error.

I've rebooted my computer. No good
I have gone on to a public server and encountered no problems.
I have the correct cars installed.

Early on in tonight's session I was able to join and do 3 or 4 laps .
It was as other drivers loaded that I was booted.
Every subsequent time I am booted as the game loads the drivers.

Anyone else have a similar problem?
Can anyone suggest a solution?

For my own part I suspect I encounter this problem when a specific driver loads up.

But what do I know


Oilseal


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: picnic on February 15, 2007, 08:58:12 PM +0000
I have this problem if I use a very high resolution with my Triple Head 2 Go, one of the 28CD cars in particular causes grief. Sometimes I have to drop the res all the way back to 1280x1024 for it to be stable. Everything is so much more involving at 3840x1024 ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Blunder on February 15, 2007, 09:04:11 PM +0000
Oh... dear.... lasted a whole 1.5 laps !! until unforced error sent me in the wall!
Suspension broke!
An early beer for me!

I'm sure I'm getting worse with every race!
and I wasn't good to start with!!

Hope you all had a good race.
1.03's in Qualie, you guys are gods!!

M.
 ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: pribeiro on February 15, 2007, 09:11:50 PM +0000
I usually dont leave server untill race ends.
But today i quit because when i was following Tom´s car, Stu spun in front
of us, Tom went left, me right, but i went to wide and there i was, on the grass,
not the best surface to brake, as i was reaching last corners before last chicane,
with Tom and Stu there and me aiming their cars, so i hit ESC, i hope i did it in time,
before hit you. :-\(ofcourse this moment was only and all my fault)
Anyway, i think i problably had some warp issues again :'(
Can someone tell me if i warped more or less than last race, please? :-[

See you later, sorry for my lag problems :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: TinMan on February 15, 2007, 09:24:16 PM +0000
See you later, sorry for my lag problems :(

Pribeiro, when you were in front of me you were warping at the 2nd corner, but nowhere near as bad as the previous weeks. It wasn't too much of a problem for me - then I saw you pull off.
Went very well after that - a bit of a dice with Jonzo. Then Toppman spun in front of me and that was pretty much that. Guess there won't be too many finishers. Escorts - who'd have 'em (not me)

TC


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Madd-RIP on February 15, 2007, 09:25:13 PM +0000
Rats  :( , pb in quali for me and then car snaps going into chicane after hairpin and nerfs my suspension, car is understeering everywhere and rear is really loose under braking,tried to carry on for a while but a couple more offs whilst trying to push damaged me further, so had no option to pit and retire.
A shame as i do like the car and  could have had a reasonable race.
Also the finishing time would have been to late for me, its racing when I'm on morinings only from now on unfortunately.  :'(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Mark J on February 15, 2007, 09:32:21 PM +0000
Bugger, stupud game DQ'd me for apparently ignoring a stop and go despite the fact i had just made two pitstops in a row to do just that !  ::) >:(  (am i doing something wrong? am i supposed to wait for a set lap to do my stop and go?).
Was running 6th with about 10 laps to go so disapointed, especially as anyone up front could have had an off or a stop and go for the draconian corner cutting warnings  :(

Qually was great fun, nice and tight and everyone pushing each other forward in lap times.  8)
Race was great too with some good little battles with a couple of other escort drivers.

Pribeiro, sorry mate, your car was warping again, though nothing like it was last week  :-\ :'(...are you wireless? could be the problem :-\
The escort can be a pain in the arse but it feels great to dice with and throw through the faster corners.

Shame the turn out was low again..where have you all gone again ?  :'(
Great pace up front from Pero and Baracus. 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Mr.BMW on February 15, 2007, 09:33:12 PM +0000
Then Toppman spun in front of me and that was pretty much that. Guess there won't be too many finishers. Escorts - who'd have 'em (not me)

TC

Sorry about that Tom, I was trying to move out of your way on the straight, but for whatever reason my Porsche decided to fish tail while going straight. Totally didn't mean to ruin your race.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 15, 2007, 09:44:15 PM +0000
As usual I was much better in race than qually. I do tend to spend the entire praccy/qual bit getting any kind of reasonable setup and then in the race I stop pushing so hard and it just flows. Well done to top 3, shame on the low turn out and low number of finishers.

Anyway, i think i problably had some warp issues again :'(
Can someone tell me if i warped more or less than last race, please? :-[

Yeah, you were warping scarily again for me. Your ping this time was high too, up to 300ms, jittering and lagging. I flashed my lights at you to give you some idea as I couldn't type, but probably just confused you with it. ;D



P.S. Please no chat during qualifying or the race. This is one of our longest standing rules and important to follow as chat can be off-putting. Thanks.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 15, 2007, 09:50:01 PM +0000
Provisional results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=312), provisional updated standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=47) and replay (http://ukgtl.simracing.org.uk/) available.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: pribeiro on February 15, 2007, 10:12:43 PM +0000
Pribeiro, sorry mate, your car was warping again, though nothing like it was last week  :-\ :'(...are you wireless? could be the problem :-\
I do use a wireless router, but when i am racing i link a net cable to have more stability.
.
 I flashed my lights at you to give you some idea as I couldn't type, but probably just confused you with it. ;D


Thats what i tought (lag again) when you flashed your lights, thanks Simon.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Pero_Grozni on February 15, 2007, 10:15:08 PM +0000
Great race - good fun batteling almost the entire race.
Didnt have luck in qually - had about 0,5 in the second and third split, but I wasnt able to put together a great lap so I started third. After a few laps I was able to pass both Stu and Baracus (almost in the same corner). Than I got infront and Stu passed Baracus as well and was following me - only to have a spin on top of the "jump". After that Baracus started closing in on me and after some laps almost got trough - but I was able to keep infront. He was loosing and gaining space on me - most times he was loosing when we came accross backmarkers. Anyhow - we were very much close together and in the last third of the race I guess he decided to go for it, but he went wide on the first righthander. After that I was alone and was basicly just lapping till the finnish. But in those laps I got my best lap on the last lap of the race. I was keeping it preety much steady trough the race as the Escort is so fragile with the Engine and in doing that I guess I wasnt as agressive as usuall as my tires were still good at the end of the race. Knowing that it wont brake on the last lap I went for it.
Bit of a shame that more people didnt attend - perhaps the car selection should change week in, week out.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: pribeiro on February 15, 2007, 10:17:03 PM +0000
BTW, im not having this lag issues when i am in GTR2 and RACE.
At least nobody had complains untill now.
Isnt it odd? And i choose ISDN connection also, i think its better.
 Maybe somebody, have an idea of what is going wrong!?
Or i might have no conditions for racing GTL again online? :'(

Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 15, 2007, 10:26:31 PM +0000
BTW, im not having this lag issues when i am in GTR2 and RACE.

Actually you've been warping in the GTR2 races as well. Sorry.  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Radius on February 16, 2007, 03:17:39 AM +0000
BTW, im not having this lag issues when i am in GTR2 and RACE.

Actually you've been warping in the GTR2 races as well. Sorry.  :-\

LOL

...and in Race:WTCC demo  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 16, 2007, 08:45:09 AM +0000
Maybe somebody, have an idea of what is going wrong!?

Are you sure you are using the wired link when you play online and not still the wireless one? Cause it does look like wireless. Which country are you racing from and what speed broadband do you have?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Mark J on February 16, 2007, 10:15:39 AM +0000
Any ideas on why i got a DQ despite stopping in the pits two laps on the trot. It went to autopit routine where AI takes control, stopped in the box for 11.3 secs first time and then 13 secs second time. Exit the pits did another lap then got 'Disqualified for not stop and go penalty' message ??? >:(
Should i be doing anything different for a stop and go? I didnt take on any fuel or tyres so not a regular pit stop


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 16, 2007, 10:42:24 AM +0000
Should i be doing anything different for a stop and go? I didnt take on any fuel or tyres so not a regular pit stop

Don't you have to select "Stop and Go: Yes" on the pit board instead of fuel and tyres?

I had the same problem at Brands. I think I managed to take one but if you cut again after that they mount up until the point where you can't get rid of them.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Mark J on February 16, 2007, 02:13:54 PM +0000
i did the rapid eye scan over the pitboard and didnt see anything that mentioned or looked like 'stop and go' ??? and i specifically looked for it after it happened to me last week or so.
Would like to solve this mystery as very frustrating to have to quit through this seemingly gamey bug.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: pribeiro on February 16, 2007, 02:26:39 PM +0000
Maybe somebody, have an idea of what is going wrong!?

Are you sure you are using the wired link when you play online and not still the wireless one? Cause it does look like wireless. Which country are you racing from and what speed broadband do you have?

Do you think its better disable the wireless link and use only the cable link when i am online?
I´m in Portugal and i already asked my net operator for an upgrated connection(dont know when they
will do that)
I can try that, i hope it works. thanks.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Mark J on February 16, 2007, 02:28:56 PM +0000
Almost certainly from what i have heard/read before PR. Worth a try at the very least.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: TinMan on February 16, 2007, 03:02:03 PM +0000


Do you think its better disable the wireless link and use only the cable link when i am online?

I have the same setup as you. You HAVE to disable the wireless link or it keeps working and conflicts with your ethernet cable connection.

Cheers

TC


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: pribeiro on February 16, 2007, 07:23:34 PM +0000
I will try then, thank you :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Mr.BMW on February 16, 2007, 07:24:53 PM +0000
i did the rapid eye scan over the pitboard and didnt see anything that mentioned or looked like 'stop and go' ??? and i specifically looked for it after it happened to me last week or so.
Would like to solve this mystery as very frustrating to have to quit through this seemingly gamey bug.

I had a Stop and Go last race. When you pit in, it should say everything is "Locked" so you just hit enter, and wait your 15 some odd seconds.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: pribeiro on February 16, 2007, 10:03:10 PM +0000


Do you think its better disable the wireless link and use only the cable link when i am online?

I have the same setup as you. You HAVE to disable the wireless link or it keeps working and conflicts with your ethernet cable connection.

Cheers

TC

Good news (i hope) :)
Just had a GTR2 league race, asked the boys if i were warping or lagging and they said NO!
Even those who were behind me for a while, didnt see me warping ;D
So i guess the tip of the wireless disable and only the cable linked worked :D

Thanks all for concerning :winkiss:

Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 16, 2007, 10:09:06 PM +0000
Good news (i hope) :)
Just had a GTR2 league race, asked the boys if i were warping or lagging and they said NO!

Excellent! :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: Mr.BMW on February 17, 2007, 12:01:17 AM +0000


Do you think its better disable the wireless link and use only the cable link when i am online?

I have the same setup as you. You HAVE to disable the wireless link or it keeps working and conflicts with your ethernet cable connection.

Cheers

TC

Good news (i hope) :)
Just had a GTR2 league race, asked the boys if i were warping or lagging and they said NO!
Even those who were behind me for a while, didnt see me warping ;D
So i guess the tip of the wireless disable and only the cable linked worked :D

Thanks all for concerning :winkiss:

Cheers

Ok now that you've gotten tips for your connection, tell me how you were running 1:05s in the porsche   :P :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Magny-Cours (National) - Feb 15
Post by: pribeiro on February 17, 2007, 01:32:42 PM +0000
Lol Mr.BMW, dont forget that i qualed with 1.04.8 ;D
I used a soft setup.
front dumpers 1,2 and rear 1,2 also
20 steering lock, low power and coast numbers, did help me doing
that uphill weird chicane with a good speed :)