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Practice 1:	20:00	(15 mins)	full time drivers only
Practice 2:	20:15	(10 mins)	reserves may join too
Qual 1:	20:25	(5 mins)	Masters may join too
Qual 2:	20:30	(25 mins)
Race:	20:55	(80 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT, G2 or NGT from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.2 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) (see this thread (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2228.0)) (G2 cars will not score points).
Drivers registered only for the Masters must take a G2 (the 993 GT2) or G3 (Z3M, GT3 Cup, Viper CC) car.
Weather: to be decided just before the race based on real-world weather according to the Endurance rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=42).
Track: Hockenheim National
Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: All drivers must make a minimum of one pit stop. This must involve entering the pit lane at the speed limit, and coming to a complete standstill in the designated pit box. Tyres do not have to be changed and no fuel has to be added. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Endurance Academy
Password: here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2325)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=39).
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers should remember that they get only two free changes of car in each series.
(5) Masters drivers (those not registered for the Academy) may join from Qualifying 1 in G2 or G3 cars. A Masters driver who takes any other car will be excluded from the race.
(6) Please read this post (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2707.0) for the corner cutting rules for this event.

I've got a nasty feeling about the weather for this one!  :o

whys that m8??

No chance of you missing this one Dave???  ;)  :D
Even if I can win last 2 rounds you will have to have 2 bad results to be able to catch you....  :-\

I pray that we don't get rain!

If it rains, i'm doomed i tell ya, doomed!

If only we had weather like today and GTR2 had a "Snow" option  ;D

Yeah and none of us would finish the race.  :P

Yeah,snow would be quite an interesting addition to the next GTR.
Bit dangeurous addition though??

What happens if there is a draw on points at the end on the season?Who gets the higher position?

The Rules (and not the Smarties) have the answer...

I personnally pray for rain  :-* my Vertigo will do wonders on slippery conditions  :laugh:

Or maybe I should take another car to be able to follow the others on straights ?  ::)

 ;D

Whats a good time for GT2 here?

TT

Fastest lap on GTR2Rank is 1:25.4

Check GTR2rank again then, 1:23.577 :P. Actually a pretty fun car. I'm using my RSR setup, and it actually works.

Online server was wet, and in that I can do high 1:30's. But then the car becomes...euh....crap ;D

Just a quick question,howcome more than half of my lap time dont show up on GTR2 rank??Is it because their with the ballast pack car??

Yes  ;D

Yes, however, I must admit that any cars that have extra ballast over the normal I edit in my career.blt (if it's my fastest) to be my fastest with the normal car because if I can go that fast with extra ballast then I can definately go that fast without ballast, therefore it's a valid lap. Any cars that have less ballast of course I leave as they are.

Any entries you want to change to get uploaded ok to GTR2Rank (as stated above) you need to edit in your Career.blt as follows...
Find an entry for a ballasted car...
[PLAYERTRACKSTAT]
TrackName=4BRNO
TrackFile=GAMEDATA\LOCATIONS\BRNO\4BRNO
Mode=2
CarDescription=BMW M3 GTR (+80KG)
TotalNumLaps=50
BestLapTime=121.219284

and change to remove the weight on the end of the name, e.g.
[PLAYERTRACKSTAT]
TrackName=4BRNO
TrackFile=GAMEDATA\LOCATIONS\BRNO\4BRNO
Mode=2
CarDescription=BMW M3 GTR
TotalNumLaps=50
BestLapTime=121.219284

That's it. The rest of the car name is the same.

Thanks for that Simon! ;D I did time trial last night with the official RSR and it uploaded fine.1.24:997 7th in the ranking  8)

Hi guys,

I've just been online and it's raining.  :no:

What times are you guys getting in the wet?

I'm struggling in the mid 1:33s  :surrender:

Struggling you say ? My best is 1.34  :'(

can the people in masters join this race in the GT2 if there is room on the sever ?

Yes; the G3 cars will also be available as the speed differential of them with Masters at the helm won't be a problem here.

Just going to go online for some practise,never run in rain before  :( so not sure how Ill get on.What tyres do you reccomend for different rain conditions??

Who said its gonna rain? isn't it decided like just before the race?

If it does rain, id like a piece of that action! Its long overdue!

Yes it is from the Weather Underground (http://www.weatherunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=49.329066,8.567276&units=metric) which gives you a five day forcast.

If you go to the home page and click on a race from Leagues and Results you get the circuit name as a clickable link in the main window, click that and the Weather Underground link and hey-presto a forecast ;)

Hi all,

I am very doubtful for this race tonight, something has come up. If I dont make it good luck to everyone.

Regards
Colin

That's a real shame Colin... I was hoping we could continue where we left off in the sprint...   :-\

I really dont feel like racing tonight,no good at all in the wet!!but...Ive got to fight for the championship!!.....we will see

YEAH 200!!!!!  ;D  :D  ;)

so ? is it raining for the race ?

:lol: the anwer is in Picnic's post , 5 posts earlier.

 :)

What a nightmare!
Sorry to Picnic to whom I touched going into Sachs on lap 4/5, thought i would be able to squeeze into the gap you left inside, but when you closed the door I had nowhere to go! Like i said sorry for the touch, i was glad you kept it under control...
Then 2 laps later going into Sachs again the throttle stayed open as i broke and ploughed into the tire wall causing big damage! limped back to the pits for a 240 second pitstop and rejoined right in front of Don being chased by Giz i think. Knowing i was quicker thought if i could stay in front i could pull away but ran wide before the approach at mobil kurve and Don slipped through.
2 laps later squeezed past Don to un-lap myself after a couple of front runners but again the throttle stayed open going into Sachs..... it was here i thought it was dangerous to carry on incase of causing a rear end shunt so pulled out :'(

hope to get all sorted for the last race,

munk

 

Well done to everyone great race.

Good battle with Freq for most of first half and just like the other day in masters caught a g2 car coming out of bend and had to lift off only for person behing me to get the run on me and pass.

I did not think you were coming Freq and just as I turned in you were there inside me. Sorry about the slightest of nudges that spun you around, I could not miss. I thought it was only fair to wait and allow you first place rightfully.

I ran the exact same set up the other night in masters and finshed with plenty of fuel. After amking stop and doing a few laps I realised I did not have enough. Even short shifting I was still using way too much fuel. I was using more than one laps worth according to the display even when taking my time. Very strange

Suprised I came out back out in first after pit stops but I accidently shifted down a gear too many going into first bend and lost it allowing freq back in the lead. After that even if i did not need to make another stop I was nevr going to catch Freq.

Well done to all

Replay (http://ukgtr.simracing.org.uk/Hockenheim%20National%20-%20Endurance%20Academy%20070211.zip) and Provisional Results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=289) are available.

Pretty quiet race in 3rd for me. Never had the pace to get closer to Freq or Brian, excepet when they spun. Was surprised to be gifted 2nd near the end, after Brian's fuel calcs went out the window!

Sorry to a few backmarkers for confusion over which direction I was going to go while passing, but fortunately no incidents or accidents for me. Few lapses in concentration, but no spins thankfully.

Also should mention the fact I was listed as DNF. I did cross the line but it did take the chequered flag a few seconds to appear. Went around first bend then escaped.

Result still said I was third though

The game said i was third at the end but the provisional result above says I was forth. I was definitely 3rd and did cross the line to finish. I'm sure replay will confirm so

Well unless I can persuade Luke not to turn up to the final round I think that's my championship gone. :( Dipped into the 27s in qualifying and was happy enough with that, especially as a late run on a slighty different setup reversed my recent trend of starting behind me teammate.

Race started okay and I settled down for a long, steady first stint, but sadly it was not to be as I found myself defending from Chunky's M3. I know from the Sprint how difficult it is to get past an M3 in the 350Z, but know we also know it's very hard to get past a 350Z in an M3, so different are their abilities. To cut a long story short we both lost a lot of time with two instances of contact, one as the unfortunate result of Munkez getting badly out of shape in the double left with Don right behind him.

I picked up some slight aero damage from all this but nothing which really affected lap times, but I lost so much time that I knew I'd probably lost the podium spot I needed to keep my championship alive. Thought about pitting early but I was mostly on a clear track and lapping well so I decided to stay out until my scheduled stop and come in to change from mediums to softs with 30 minutes to go.

Stop went perfectly and I leap-frogged Picnic and started chasing down Reign Man, wo was 22 seconds up the road but lapping slower. At one point he must've spun or run off and the gap was suddenly down to 5 seconds, so I started pushed extra hard to try and put him under pressure. Stupidly I had a lapse of concentration whilst letting a GT car past going into the Sachskurve and ran off, losing 15 seconds, letting Picnic back past, and ending any prospect of getting onto the podium.

Picnic was kind enough to let me by again but I'd cooked my left front by then and it was all I could do to legitimately stay ahead of him. :( With hindsight I should've stayed out longer on my mediums and come in with just 20 minutes to go.

A big thank you to all the GT drivers who were, without exception, very patient with me.

With just 3 points in it, if Luke wins the final round he'll take it on the countback even if I finish second. The team championship could still be ours though...

I'm guessing you were nearly a lap behind the leader? If you aren't the leader you must keep racing until you personally cross the line with the chequered flag showing.

We've had the finishing position debate before, and unless what the game has written in the export is actually incorrect, you are classified according to our rules, which differ from the game's (because it doesn't write full data in the exports).

Dave - If you wanted to win the championship we should have run in the rain.  Luke isn't so fast in the rain.   ;)

Well done Luke, you are simply too fast in the dry.

P.S. I thought you said you wasn't lucky  :P

Was another lonely race in the GT2, but still quite enjoyabe.

My fuel was all over the place. I used 60L in the first 35 minutes (1.71L/min), so I put 80L in when I pitted in, which should have been plenty.
With 15 minutes to go I noticed I wasn't gonna make it, so I shortshifted, but only saved around 0.1-0.2 per lap :-\.

When Paul968 blew up his engine, I had 1:17 infront of the next driver, so I had time for a quick splash. I used almost 90L for the last 45 minutes (2L/min) :o.

Not a great race for, but at least i finished...but ran out of fuel on the last lap - saw the clock moving down slowly from about 3:34 to go, and only had less than one lap worth of fuel - i thought i judged it correctly  :-\
Anyway, that led to me pitting in, and losing 6th pos. to drop back to 8th overall...

Ah well, at least the engine didn't give up this time  :laugh:

Other than that, i had long periods of the race on my own, in which i had time to hotlap - good driving by NGT's btw.

Good stuff eveyone - grats to all who entered, and to the podiums..

Difficult evening for me, been re-modelling my sim-pit after the arrival of the G25. Working to an 8:15 deadline when at 2 mins to 8 I remembered endurance races start at 8. Panic set in and I restarted the server, sorry for the type in the name  :D

Hadn't even got the games PC wired up by then, so set about that and joined only to discover in my pratting around I had no sound, can't race like that so back round the back of the PC we went.

Finally got sorted more or less for the start of Q2, pipped Dave for a brief period but went for a comfort break and got back to see him pip me by 0.08 secs. Good one Dave :)

I didn't have any real pace all race. NP with the incident Munkez, I had missed my braking point and wasn't sure at the time if you tapped me of I got the back out by locking a brake. No harm done :) That left hander is dreadful for me, I can't get any temp into the front right and have to tippy-toe around it :(

After Dave and Chunky had their spill I had a 10 sec lead over Dave but he just reeled me in lap after lap, he jumped me in the pits propably due to me putting in fuel, which it turns out I didn't need  :-\ After Dave's off letting the GTG passed I again had a 7 or 8 sec lead over him but again he relentlessly clawed his way back on to my boot. Those softs probably helping.

Disappointing race as I was never chasing any one, always defending which is not as rewarding ;) Everyone was excellent with their manners while lapping, thanks chaps :)

Well done to the podium guys.

well, after having practiced a couple of hours this afternoon I finally thought I had a workable setup for a wet race. My first wet race actually .

After joining the server for the race it was all of a sudden dry . w000t   :eek:

I started panicking since I didn't have any setup for dry and I've never raced on this track before  :blink:

Tweaked my wet race setup and got some decent times, although several seconds behind the front runners. And Ruskus was in front of me. This was not going to be easy.

Off we went and the first many laps had Ruskus written all over them. No way he was going to let me by easily. We had some good racing going on. Finally managed to squeeze myself by after a tuff fight  :fencing:

Had some laps in which I mangaged some OK times. I was faster than calculated and used more fuel than expected,so I knew I had to be careful in the end.

Thanks to all the NGTs for letting me by. Only at one point was it getting a bit to close, coming up behind Darren ind the second to last corner I saw him flashing his lights to let me by. Came up on the inside ,and then it seemed like he forgot I was there  :eek:  Fortunately we both got away without contact.  :thumbup1:

I remember this afternoon during practice that Darren wrote to Luke (when Luke was complaining about how much rain sucked):
" With your luck Luke, it's probably going to be dry anyway"    :lol:

That must have been the split time to Darren. I decided to to go long on the first stint running medium tyres and come in with 25 mins to go and then run softs. I was running in first (NGT) when i pitted and came out around 17 seconds behind Darren and 4.1 seconds in front of you. Would have been nice if you were able to catch me it was quite a lonely race for me.

...But saying that.... I have got my first podium!  :o  :P

I only had two silly mistakes once while letting a GT through and another when following Don both times just loosing concentration and driving on things other than tarmac  >:(

Other than that I am really pleased with how things went.

Great Race all!

RM

Sorry for the confusion, I was expecting you to dive down the inside, but I misjudged your speed and you took longer than I expected, which meant I ran out of road... 

In hindsight I should have made you wait  :P

Well,last race is certainly going to be interesting....  :o
Quallied 1st just off my PB and was able to pull away at the start and settle down into a good pace.
Didnt really have any big  :o moments and was quite relaxed,I just wanted to know where Gizmo was....only  :o moment I had was whwn I pitted and saw my pit crew out and Chunky in my space  :o ,so I thought I had to cue up behind and when I pulled up behind him to stop I noticed my pit crew was in front  ::) ,blonde moment...
Just 3 points between me and Gizmo,Barcelona here we come!

I call it skill and knowledge m8,not luck!  :P  :D

But if we tie on points who gets it then??

Have I made a backside of it? The timer had disappeared long before I crossed the line and it never started to time the lap after i crossed the line. When I pressed escape there were other people finished before I was as soon as I looked to monitor evertone was doing donoughts etc. I'm confused ???

Strange we both had problems. My strategy was fine last time(masters endurance) but this time miles out this time. Even short shifting I was burning more fuel that the onboard computer suggested for one lap and I have never had that before. Last time I had enough fuel for a few more laps this time about 6 laps short

First of all, well done to all peeps - was the most courteous race I have had yet.
Second - 2085 seconds - It's a Schumi+Hakk moment at Spa...without the lead at stake over it.. :p N1 Fred and Chunky  ;D

Qually v close - 0.008 seconds!!! Was really happy with the front row as GTR had CTD'd twice in Q2, and after the second one I restarted my PC, and rejoined with about 7 or 8 mins left and no qualy setup made...just made one quick and did 4 laps as quick as I could. Kinda glad though, Kerr's pacelap was MUCH better than my one was!
Good battle with Kerr for the first half. We were very closely matched and and it didn't seem to matter if I pushed or not, I couldn't get past. So started to short shift to save the engine and tyres for later. Managed to slip inside after he got baulked by Chunky and then slowly slid round after a tiny tap from Kerr. No biggie.
What was worse than the actual tap was the time I lost in the friggin pits. I'd set 92l as the amount for the stop and lowered that to 70, and had to select "do not repair", cost me a few secs and Kerr got back in the lead :p I was surprised at how early you stopped, I had over 20l left when you pitted.
Was in a fighting mood after the stops but Kerr's spin put an end to it. Was a shame, was looking forward to a dice! On another note, Edam wasn't far behind. I remember looking behind me on the straight each lap at the beginning and seeing you right near us and going "blimey, we're gonna have to get a move on".

Main apologies should go to Reign man and Chunky, I think I made a couple of dodgey passes on you guys - sorry if I held you up.

See you in the Sprint ;)

I've told you twice now! You've even quoted the second one! ::)

Yep, you've made what the French call "un cockup". :P FreQ was just 7 seconds behind and about to lap you again when you crossed the line (at 4972.684s). Time had expired but because the leader had not crossed the line the race was still running. The chequered flag didn't come out until 7 seconds after you crossed the line, when FreQ took the win (at 7979.238s).

Joined with G3 Porschecup. Thought I could keep up with the slowest NGTs but was losing 0,3 sec per lap so after 20 minutes the gap was too big and I quit.  :)

I'm pleased to say that unlike in GTR1 now PorscheCup is quite nice to drive, very stable and forgiving, easy to drive. In fact I had an impression that the engine just couldn't keep up with the tyres. Might be worth a Fun race at Mugello, PorscheCup exclusively (hint, hint...  ;D  ) after S4 finishes.  :)

TT

I was laughing my ass off  :laugh:
I saw you coming when I was closing on Chunky ... and then I was praying "Chuncky stay on your line, stay on your line".. and the he goes right when I was going left to let you pass then I though where the fuck FreQ is going to pass and all of a sudden you were gone  ;D

Very courteous indeed, exactly what I was searching for in a league.
Now I need to find some speed and consistency.

Speed is gonna be difficult for me.
Consistency I'm gonna found when I put my racing gear in another place than the TV place.. so my girlfriend won't talk to me anymore when racing.. lost the lead pack because of chatting  ::)

Very good race from what I've seen, gratz to all.
Hope I didn't disturb you David when you were fighting for position with another nGT and I passed on the straight.


mmmm this place is kewl  ;)

You were more than generous with how long you waited to go past. :thumbup1:

LOL that wasn't generous, I had just a hard time to find a spot to  :D ;D :laugh:

Just my luck, this turned out to be a dry race!

I'm gutted I wasn't there, I could have contested Darren and Reign Man for a podium position.

Time to get practising for the GT event tomorrow night then hope to get a full lot of Barca events entered.

Regards
Colin 8)

oops :-[.  I just assumed that with no timer and and no lap timer that was it. I guess that's another lesson learned!

I was hoping for a wet race and had practiced to take the GT3 Cup car, but when I got on the server it was dry and no other G3s. I asked if I could swap to match the 2 G2s and then returned in the GT2 (I was rather surprised that TT then swapped out to G3!). Qual left me in the middle of the GTs, and the first few laps I was trying to hang on to cej and Ruskus, but with a full fuel load I dropped back into a tussle with Fred Joseph. When he made a slip I was left to lap on my own for a long period in 6th place. Lapping the NGTs was interesting because of the short straights and the rather 'unique' handling in the GT2. I made a complete horlicks of passing Pete after he let me by into the complex - conscious of my guest status I went too deep at each of the next few corners trying to stay out of his way. Sorry m8. The pitstop was fairly routine, as was the rest of the race until around 10 minutes to go. The sky behind suddenly turned orange as the Porsche's engine toasted itself, and that was it  :( Shame really, as I wrestling the GT2 around Hock for 80 minutes would have been a real achievement, added to which Ruskus needed to pit again and I would have inherited the G2 lead. Oh well.

Congrats to Freq and Luke, and thx to all the other drivers when lapping - everyone was extremely well mannered  :thumbup1:

Hm, didn't see you were in G3, Paul. I joined in G2 and then changed to G3 'cause I was pleasantly surprised by it while training for a wet race. It showed that G3 is not on pace with the NGTs (with me driving anyway  ;D  ) so it was not gonna be the race but another training.  ::)
Didn't want to turture myself in a G2 in this version of Hock.  :angel:

TT

Exactly when the GF decided that we must have a discussion  ::)
Too bad cause it was fun running with you  :)

Yes m8 but you still havent said WHO,ME OR YOU  ???

Luke, you would win on count back because you would have won the most races...

Is there a lapchart available?

Eek, sorry, totally forgot  :-[. Here it is:


Unofficial lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Hockenheim Nat Enduro 11-02-2007 ACA/index.html)

THANK YOU!!!!!

The same happened to me when I ran out of fuel on the last lap in China. It's apparently a limitation of the way the results are exported from GTR2 - meaning you HAVE to cross the finish line when the flag is showing, otherwise you are bumped down to the last place of cars on the same lap you stopped/dnf'd on (ie. 1 lap down). I'm sure there is a good reason for it - it sounds pretty complicated, but it's not really fair either. If you had waited 8 seconds for me to lap you, you would have had third. If I had waited for Locotus to lap me in China, I would have had third. Unfortunately in these circumstances the system penalises you for being faster.  :'( Still not sure why the UKGTR results are incorrect when GTR2 and UKGTR's own lapcharts get the results right...
Not all the systems fault though, I cocked up on fuel and you cocked up on thinking you had finished when you hadn't.

It might be an idea to make a knowledge/sticky topic regarding issues like these - they're bound to come up in the future, this is the 3rd case of it happening in about 4 months I think, so it's hardly rare. At least if people are aware of it they are less likely to throw their toys out of the pram if it happens to them.

The lapcharts aren't always right either - GTR/GTL's exports are really quite poor compared to rFactor's.


That's why I always add the details to the rules when there's any controversy. :P