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Title: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 20, 2021, 09:50:57 PM +0100
Season 39 – 1955 GP - WORKS – Round 4 – Assen

The fourth race in the 1955 Grand Prix series finds us at Assen in the Netherlands. Assen has a long history of motor racing. The first event, a motorcycle race, was held in 1925 on country roads through the villages of Rolde, Borger, Schoonloo and Grolloo.  Between 1926 and 1954, the Dutch TT (Tourist Trophy) motorcycle race, was held on the Van Drenthe circuit. This was a 10.27 miles street circuit through De Haar, Barteldsbocht, Oude Tol, Hooghalen, Laaghalen and Laaghalerveen. In 1955 a new purpose built track was inaugurated which was shorter than the original but at 6.049 miles it was still a long track by modern standards. Over the years the track has been through numerous modifications which have changed its length each time. The 1967 version we are using tonight is 4.8 miles long.  Although more famous for motorcycle racing, the track has been used for car racing (BOSS GP, Champ Car, DTM and several junior classes) but never for Formula 1.
 
Race list = iGOR
Server = UKGPL05_60fps
IP address = 86.6.125.152:32666
Password = see above (#post_event_password)
GPL Mod = 55
Damage model = Pro
60fps Patch = 60fpsV2newmod
Track download = Assen 67 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1061)
Track directory = assen67
Qualifying starts = 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race starts = ~ 21:30 UK time
Race length = 14 laps
Replay= Here (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TyV3WXmg1N6nKghhc8ZzasHBpeJs3fDA/view?usp=sharing)

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Driver lists and division specific rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1581&theme=6).

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver        Tokens  Status
bagrupp
0
Works
Claudio Navonne
8
Works
Clive Loynes
2
Works
Cookie
0
Works
Doni Yourth
40
Works
Enrique Farina
13
Works
EvilClive
20
Works
fpolicardi
2
Works
Giovanni Centorame
10
Works
GrandPrixYannick
13
Works
JonnyO
17
Works
Leo Menegucci
6
Works
Phil Thornton
8
Works
Raoni Frizzo
10
Works


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 20, 2021, 10:19:08 PM +0100
The server is up on iGOR for testing. I've been advised that there may be an issue with the 55s on this track. Please install the no-freeze patch before you test the server and let me know if you experience any screen freezes.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Clive Loynes on October 20, 2021, 10:31:44 PM +0100
I've done quite a bit of running on the server whilst trying to sort out graphics issues on my pc, not track related.

I have not had any issues and I am running the no-freeze patch.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 20, 2021, 10:47:50 PM +0100
OK thanks Clive, that's good to know.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: fpolicardi on October 21, 2021, 10:25:15 AM +0100
I'm out of town on Sunday so I'll have to miss this one.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 21, 2021, 11:05:00 AM +0100
It is the USA F1GP at Austin this weekend and as usual we have a clash of timing. Does anyone have an objection to delaying our race by 30mins to allow people to watch the F1 race if they wish to?

The revised times would be:
Qualifying starts = 21:15 UK time - 45 minutes
Race starts = ~ 22:00 UK time


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Clive Loynes on October 21, 2021, 12:37:42 PM +0100
I would prefer to stay with normal times.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Doni Yourth on October 21, 2021, 12:57:46 PM +0100
I'm OK with a revised start time, PT.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Claudio Navonne on October 22, 2021, 11:01:04 AM +0100
It's fine for me to change the schedule, but I will try to be present at any time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Leo Menegucci on October 22, 2021, 12:15:15 PM +0100
It is the USA F1GP at Austin this weekend and as usual we have a clash of timing. Does anyone have an objection to delaying our race by 30mins to allow people to watch the F1 race if they wish to?

No problem for me.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: bagrupp on October 22, 2021, 12:48:51 PM +0100
ok. starting time race at 10 PM German time


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Clive Loynes on October 22, 2021, 02:04:32 PM +0100
I would like to be in bed by 11pm, not messing about with computers.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: francesco on October 22, 2021, 02:25:42 PM +0100
Clive be night owl for one time :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 22, 2021, 02:50:52 PM +0100
I can start the Works server at the normal time and the Privateers at the later time if that is the best compromise.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Giovanni Centorame on October 24, 2021, 10:02:52 AM +0100
No problem for me Phil


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 24, 2021, 05:30:27 PM +0100
The Works server will be started at the normal time: qualifying 20:45 UK time (GMT+1), race 21:30 UK time (GMT+1)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Giovanni Centorame on October 24, 2021, 09:56:13 PM +0100
Freeze :'(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: bagrupp on October 24, 2021, 09:58:28 PM +0100
mhh its 11 pm german time, i realized. but the race is already running, i cannot join.

edit: seemed to have been rechanged to usual time


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 24, 2021, 11:03:43 PM +0100
mhh its 11 pm german time, i realized. but the race is already running, i cannot join.

edit: seemed to have been rechanged to usual time
Sorry for the confusion Bastian but my initial post was just to seek the opinion of the drivers. Given that we didn't have universal agreement to change the Works and the original request came from a Privateer driver, I decided to only delay the start of the Privateers. Sorry you missed the race, I've enjoyed our battles this season.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 24, 2021, 11:15:08 PM +0100
Mugged by Doni, again!  :o 
I think I had minor contact with Clive on lap 1. I waited for him to recover so I lost a bit of ground and it took a few laps to catch up the the pack. After that it was a pretty intense battle with Doni. I looked for a safe place to pass but the only real chance was on the brakes into T2. I eventually pulled it off (Clive was all over my gearbox so that forced my hand) and then I tried to chase down Enrique. I started to close in but then the gap stopped coming down (I assume Enrique was pacing himself) so I pushed that bit too hard and made a slight mistake. That was all Doni needed and he was back through :taz:. I tried as hard as I could on the last couple of laps but there was no way through. Great racing Doni, well done.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: bagrupp on October 25, 2021, 11:49:21 AM +0100
np phil. i would have prefered F1 any way :) and the battle will continue :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: bernie on October 25, 2021, 12:22:34 PM +0100
Great result for the Soggies  :clap:

Well done Enrique & Clive


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Giovanni Centorame on October 25, 2021, 01:36:47 PM +0100
I started P3 , i was quickly overtaken by Yannick and Jonny but after his mistake i regained the 4th position. My rithm was not bar at all, my pace was regular and even if Clive was slight faster than me i could manage to keep a regular pace, which was my obiective for the race as the 625 Is a bit unpredictable on corner exit. Then suddenly my screen freezed with the engine noise increasing in pitch. I don't know how was possible, i had the track patch cheked in GEM. This 55 season is demonstrating really stingy of results for me :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Enrique Farina on October 25, 2021, 03:38:47 PM +0100
very unfortunate about jonnie, I think I blew the engine, I'm very sorry jonnie, :'(  but you're still leading and the fight for the champ, got hot: :o
    I was late to qualifying since I also run in galaxie and I could only do a single thrown lap, which gave me a time of 3.03 and my bp was 2.58 but anyway, at least I could reach the race.
   In the first lap I saw that those in front of me were running very fast and I had some failures in my entrances to curves but already after the second lap I already caught a good rhythm, but it was impossible to catch up with those in front, I ended up in a solo 4th place, but very happy that I could finish hehehe.
   very good clive for that 3 place and also leo for his silver medal, but i want to praise yannick for his impressive race pace, totally unattainable, (did you put disc brakes on ?):laugh: :laugh:
    See you next time


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: JonnyO on October 25, 2021, 04:08:38 PM +0100
 Congratulations to the podium!!!! As Farina said, the championship heated up again, now we have 200 applicants!!!
  I was very lucky to do a few more laps before the engine blew up, he was left with half the cavalry as soon as I hit the wall and possibly eliminated the donor, it was a miracle the engine could still handle so many laps.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Doni Yourth on October 26, 2021, 12:06:17 AM +0100
Grats to our podium men!  Well done, fellas!  :)

Sorry to see that Jonny, Clay and Giovanni ran into trouble along the way.

A lucky P5 for me which just as easily could have been P7.  Phil ran off the road with barely a lap to go to hand me the place.  Your too, too kind, Phil.  :)  Evil Clive had the pace to put us both in his mirrors but assorted offs put paid to his chances.

Not sure why the last lap wasn't scored for Ricky on down the order.  We all ran it back to Clive but GPL just said otherwise.  I hope that it's not a trend!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Leo Menegucci on October 26, 2021, 12:56:22 AM +0100
Nice race! I was surprised with pole, but latter I was brought back to Earth as we all saw what was the real pace.

Had a fine start and kept the lead, managing some gap till the Ferrari bakes were done by lap 3. I settled for my race pace, managing engine and brakes as Yan blew passed by me and Clive came along but we were more equal in pace. I was stronger in some sectors but was loosing a lot when hard braking was required, so we raced like that for most of the laps. Fun!  :thumbup1:

Championship elevator, going up!  :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: GrandPrixYannick on October 26, 2021, 11:55:56 AM +0100
Did small preparation beforehand because I favoured watching the F1 race over qualifying. I drove the final couple minutes to have a flying lap on the board. I was on my way on pole until with one corner to go the game went to the race session. When I started the lap the timer was on 0:38 w/o the checkered flag so I should easily have made it, but apparently the extra time timer is way too short here. Or did I completely miss the flagmen back then?

After the crossing the line, I watched the race results and strangely the game says some drivers where lapped (or didn't finish the last lap in time?) despite never reaching backmarkers in the race. Suppose Assen needs a fix or two.

See you next race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: EvilClive on October 26, 2021, 12:36:40 PM +0100
Grats to the podium guys and all finishers. Sorry to hear about the various retirements  :(

Assen is not on my list of favourite tracks, although it does have some interesting sections, but certainly in the 55's passing opportunities are limited.

I had a reasonable start and decided to do an "Alonso" around the outside of T1. Well that backfired when I was nudged and with the car on the limit of very little adhesion I was off and into the haybales  :-\. No complaints as IMHO it was just a racing incident.

After that I was guilty of over driving my 250F and simply trying to make up ground and places too quickly. When I caught Doni and Phil there were at least 3 occasions when I had to abort to the grass because they were both slower through the bends than I was intending to be. Each time I had to recover and chase them down again, only to repeat the errors. I blame the red mist that was particularly thick in the low lying areas of the Netherlands!!

Eventually I made one mistake too many with just a lap to go and resigned myself to last place, so I cruised in to complete the race. As Yannick has said the lap count at Assen appears to be slightly wrong. I was not lapped ( unless the car was invisible??) and yet I was classified as a lap down and "retired"???, although I crossed the line. Maybe I should have run another lap and stolen a few places??? lol


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 39 (Autumn 2021) 1955 GP - Assen - Works - Oct 24
Post by: Claudio Navonne on October 27, 2021, 10:20:37 AM +0100
I didn't do the qualifying because I was watching the last laps of the F1 race in Austin (what a track!). So I started last, gained some places at the start and some others during the first lap because some of them were on the outside of the track. My idea was to have a quiet race and to take care of the brakes (although on this track they are not severely demanded). But I was touched from behind in the Bedeldijk corner, I tried to continue for a couple of laps but the suspension damage made the car very unstable and a danger for the others, so I decided to retire.
Thanks for the organisation.