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Title: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 17, 2007, 04:38:58 PM +0000
All members welcome.

Practice: 20:15 (15 mins)
Qualifying: 20:30 (20 mins)
Race: 20:50 (37 laps = ~40 mins)

Track: Tsukuba v1.0 (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27))
Cars allowed: Alfa Romeo GTA, Lotus Cortina.
Time of Day Setting: 19:00 (see note 5)
Start: Rolling

Server: UKGTL TC-65 Cup; in the event that the lobby is unavailable, connect using Direct IP, entering games.avonrise.co.uk in the Add IP box
Password: See this post (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2686.0)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7).
(3) General information on the series can be found on the series home page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=46).
(4) The season will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.3 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27).
(5) Frame rates - Please test out your frame rate in dusk/night conditions before hand. You will be required to run with lights on. Advice on increasing frame rates with headlights on is to reduce Headlight Effects in graphics options to Low and turn down the Shadows setting (in that order of preference for highest FPS increase). If you're frame rate is too low your car will be laggy and cause problems. Please ensure you have a good frame rate before joining.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 17, 2007, 04:53:53 PM +0000
Gonna miss this one 'cause I'm defending my title as the office karting champion.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: pribeiro on February 17, 2007, 06:19:50 PM +0000
Excellent choice!
I love (good) addon tracks ! :D
As i always had race with the damn Cortina, i might go with the Alfa this time.  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: pribeiro on February 17, 2007, 06:21:07 PM +0000
Gonna miss this one 'cause I'm defending my title as the office karting champion.

GO DAVE...GO DAVE...GO DAVE :yes:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Mr.BMW on February 17, 2007, 07:51:35 PM +0000
it's Alpha time


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Jeffrey on February 17, 2007, 07:59:03 PM +0000
I'm gonna try H-gated shifting with GTL now. So you'll see me cross s/f every 5 minutes or so, everytime with more grass in the grill  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Jeffrey on February 17, 2007, 08:52:59 PM +0000
Wow that's fun. Feels so much more real that H-gated shifting. Probably makes me dead slow, but I'll be driving like this the whole race ->  ;D

Good track choice Simon. Not one of the prettiest tracks, but a very good flow and pretty small so good for these slow cars  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 17, 2007, 10:29:44 PM +0000
Thanks to Pero for the suggestion on the track.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 22, 2007, 08:16:35 PM +0000
Warning! The pit exit arrow points the wrong way (known problem with careless conversions) - don't be fooled!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Blunder on February 22, 2007, 10:46:42 PM +0000
Any idea what frame rate causes potential issues?

?

M.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 23, 2007, 09:44:30 AM +0000
Any idea what frame rate causes potential issues?

Absolute minimum should be 20fps, but really you want 30fps or more.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Joss on February 23, 2007, 04:50:28 PM +0000
Wow that's fun. Feels so much more real that H-gated shifting. Probably makes me dead slow, but I'll be driving like this the whole race ->  ;D
Yea, when I first drove in H pattern it felt much much harder (waay more difficult to brake!!) but also waay more realistic, and much more fun to drive.
Definately one for messing about in fun races...not so hot for championship racing.  :-X


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Pero_Grozni on March 01, 2007, 07:39:03 AM +0000
Wont be able to make this race as I am swamped with work.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: RealMrPot on March 01, 2007, 08:25:12 AM +0000
I'm unlikely to make this race, too, due to work busy-ness.

Stu


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: EdamSpeed on March 01, 2007, 09:18:47 AM +0000
Same here >:(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Jeffrey on March 01, 2007, 09:32:25 AM +0000
Aaaaand, same for me. Exam tomorrow and I just started studying for it  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Adam Parle on March 01, 2007, 09:37:10 AM +0000
Well I'll be there all being well!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 01, 2007, 09:42:29 AM +0000
Just you and me then Adam  :( :'(

A duel to the death. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Adam Parle on March 01, 2007, 10:05:31 AM +0000
I'm happy with that, I don't mind coming last when it's for a podium position!

Think Jonzo's looking to make it too though - bolstering the Legends contingent somewhat!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Mooman117 on March 01, 2007, 12:38:12 PM +0000
I'll try and make it as well


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Mark J on March 01, 2007, 12:53:51 PM +0000
yeah i should be there, though may be halfway through practise or qually as competing in the F1 '79 race earlier.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Adam Parle on March 01, 2007, 01:41:10 PM +0000
yeah i should be there, though may be halfway through practise or qually as competing in the F1 '79 race earlier.

Feeling confident about the Historic F1 race then are we?  :P


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: popabawa on March 01, 2007, 01:50:18 PM +0000
yeah i should be there, though may be halfway through practise or qually as competing in the F1 '79 race earlier.

Feeling confident about the Historic F1 race then are we?  :P

I was thinking that! If he drives like he did in practice last night then he'll have plenty of time to kill before racing GTL!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Adam Parle on March 01, 2007, 02:09:52 PM +0000
I was thinking that! If he drives like he did in practice last night then he'll have plenty of time to kill before racing GTL!

Now this is what being part of a team is all about - supporting your co-drivers, helping to get the best from them .....  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Fred Joseph on March 01, 2007, 06:28:56 PM +0000
maybe it's too early, but the psw don't seem to work ?

i want to practice online  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Mike Hammer on March 01, 2007, 06:38:20 PM +0000
Maybe you figured it out, but the password is the fun&practice password. At least right now it is.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Fred Joseph on March 01, 2007, 07:01:41 PM +0000
Thanks Mike  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Adam Parle on March 01, 2007, 09:32:41 PM +0000
That started well .... then after 2 spins on lap 15 I went to pieces, sorry to anyone I inconvenienced time after time after time at T1.

Norton autoupdated spinnin me out again, and when the leader came through to lap me I quite nicely let Jonzo past thinking he was 2nd!!!! (He wasn't - for the record!).

More cockups, and when P2-6 went past enough was enough.  I'd been chasing Simon from P7 (got the gap down to 6 secs I think), and within 10 minutes he was lapping me ..... and that was the final straw really.

Shame, as I started really well.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 01, 2007, 09:41:03 PM +0000
Well that was really good fun. Incredibly hard to try overtaking, but the twisty short track really suited the fling-fling handling of the Alfa Romeo. I thought the dusk->night effect was pretty cool, although the flashing textures are really horrible. I finished where I started, so my result looks quite boring but the race was anything but.

Well done to Mike on the win.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Jeffrey on March 01, 2007, 09:44:39 PM +0000

Norton autoupdated spinnin me out again, and when the leader came through to lap me I quite nicely let Jonzo past thinking he was 2nd!!!! (He wasn't - for the record!).


Norton: The worst virus scanner in the world!

Try AVG (http://free.grisoft.com/softw/70free/setup/avg75free_441a944.exe). It's free and came 2nd in a survey just behind Panda (which only just looked a bit better). It updates everytime you start windows and it's done in a jippy. After that update, it doesn't hog your PC or does any other updates or scans (unless you program it to I think). I use it, and it has never interfered with anything.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Adam Parle on March 01, 2007, 09:46:18 PM +0000
 ::)  You'd think I'd learn .... it's not normally a problem .... only when I've forgotten to sort out the scheduling etc ......


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 01, 2007, 09:51:45 PM +0000
Provisional results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=313), replay (http://ukgtl.simracing.org.uk/) and new provisional championship standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=48) available.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Mark J on March 01, 2007, 09:52:04 PM +0000
Quote
and when the leader came through to lap me I quite nicely let Jonzo past thinking he was 2nd!!!!

oh thats what you was doing Adam,  ::).... looked to me like you was cutting the grass for the nice Japanese men  :P  ;) :D

Hows this for commitment, spent 1.5 hours racing at Kyalami in the F1 '79 race over at R2p (finished 5th :angel:), then jumped straight into qually here !....must have raised some eyebrows when i tried driving down the pitlane the wrong way for qually :laugh: as i hadnt turned a single lap here :o

Then even worse, i got a phone call i had to take with 5 mins remaining of qually and had to start and complete the first 6 laps of the race with one hand holding the steering wheel and the other holding a phone to my ear, with the game sound turned off !! :o :helpsmilie:

Once that was out the way, i could finally get to grips with the track and had a great several lap battle with Martin Blunder and his extra wide cortina ;)...i tried every conceivable attack line at every corner to get past, but fair play he drove a great defensive fight. When i finally got past i then set a series of 3 quickish laps to close right up on Adam in 9th/10th and got past him while he went daisy cutting ;D
But alas the early phonecall and battles left me too far behind PR and Tinman? in 7th and 8th and i had to settle for 9th.

Didnt like the track at all in daylight, but thought it was excellent in the dark and very atmospheric. Reminded me of watching stock car/banger racing under the floodlights as a kid :tt1:
Enjoyed myself despite the result.  Good choice gents.  8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Madd-RIP on March 01, 2007, 10:01:49 PM +0000
 ;D Really enjoyed that, Mike was just too fast and consistent for me to make any impression and Baracus and I had a damn good scrap for a good while before I went wide and he nipped inside of me.
I couldn't really keep up that easily and started dropping back in to the  headlight glare of my nemesis Assassino!! :D
Finally managed to stabilise my laptimes a bit then just concentrated on trying not to make any Major errors and keep my tyres in some sort of circular shape!
Then a gift, Baracus had spun in fast chicane and I was able to keep in front of what looked like a good old scrap for 3rd.
Finished a very lucky 2nd and am well pleased, congrats to the winner, Mike and to 3rd Baracus.

PS A good track for these cars, especially at night, very atmospheric and brings back memories of GT 4!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: ASSASSINO on March 01, 2007, 10:02:23 PM +0000
37 hard laps in a small circuit, i enjoyed the fact we raced at night time, the cars were very close and the race for me was always defend and atack, had a nice battle with mooman117 right till the end, i finished 4th and lost the podium very close to the end to my teammate Baracus.

Long live GTL


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Mike Hammer on March 01, 2007, 10:11:28 PM +0000
Thanks.  ;D


Phew, I had butterflies all the way through.

I might have done the pre-race gathering lap (whaddayacallit) a little slow, I thought it better then the other way around. Wasn't sure how fast it should be done, but I have a feeling engaging the pit limiter halfway down the back straight might have been a little excessive
 :1eye:

I got away good and saw Madd-RIP and Baracus fight for position, which was really good news for me!

Some laps down Bara started to close in and I was getting worried for a bit. He didn't know my secret weapon though! I had his Alfa settings from a Silverstone race a while ago, and they worked like a charm  ;D

He pushed me to my best lap of the race, but then he disappeared, and I was scared I had caused something or that there was a mandatory pitstop I had forgotten about. Analyzer shows the gap was down to 0.7 seconds at one point, but my pitboard kept jumping from 13 to 17 to 19 to 13 seconds gap to 2nd. Bloody unreliable it is.

A couple times the game sort of froze for a fraction of a second, and I hope I wasn't lagging, and I especially hope that I did not leave a stationary car for Bara to hit, like I've seen happen to others in public servers? My fps never went below 42, so I think that should have been enough?


Anyway, I sure am happy with the race result, should it have come without incidents caused by lag.

I'm flying high among the clouds right now, but I am looking forward to being violently returned to the ground next time I race aliens
  :balloon: :alien:    I think there'll be a :pop: sound.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Fred Joseph on March 01, 2007, 10:22:48 PM +0000
a great several lap battle with Martin Blunder and his extra wide cortina ;)...i tried every conceivable attack line at every corner to get past, but fair play he drove a great defensive fight

HAHA yeah seen that battle !!! incredible !! I let you guys fight and looked from behind, waiting for Martin to make a fault.. until I get punted by a lapper  :-X >:(

Then Martin must have been done a fault so I could reach him, and then with 3 laps to go I waited.. until he did a spin, too bad, cause the racing was great.. I just had to keep him behing 3 laps, and I knew how to do it, I watched him some laps before  LOL  ;D

Good racing  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: baracus250gt on March 01, 2007, 11:24:30 PM +0000
That was serious fun. Really hard to get in a good position for a safe pass - once with cars of a simliar pace the only option is pressure games and dummies, trying to force a mistake, which is totally what I love about GTL!!

Made a silly mistake when I lost concentration for a bit when chasing Hammer (and was pushing too hard) but managed to fight back with a great scrap with Simon, Mooman, Assassino and Madd along the way.

Great drive Hammer Sir! You totally deserved that one!
I had the same problem with my gap readout on the pit board - for the second race in a row :/

Loved the night time too, more of that!! :D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: MortenS on March 02, 2007, 09:27:56 AM +0000
Had a great evening, managed to push a bit harder than my last race, and even managed to keep one car behind me on the track. Getting a bit more confident in these cars, so it's going the right way, but still haven't found the best way/place to let lapping cars by.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Mooman117 on March 02, 2007, 10:39:37 AM +0000
Enjoyed the race overall. Was running as high as P3 but lost a few places later on. Made a couple of mistakes under braking and I think I caused a bit of a small collison about 1/2 way through. Not sure who else was invloved but sorry. I seemed a bit slow on straight line speed, maybe should have taken the middle instead of shortest gear box, may have helped with traction out of the slow corners.

Anyway good track choice (except for the flashing textures). The shorter twisty tracks do seem to keep the field together a bit better. Looking forward to Misano now.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: Fred Joseph on March 02, 2007, 11:14:17 AM +0000
but still haven't found the best way/place to let lapping cars by.

You did very good when I passed you.

Just stay on your line, the lapper is responsible to make a clean pass..  (what some don't know it seems  :-X )
Just go out the line if you are sure you can handle your car in another line, or slow down on a straight so the faster car pass easily.
The best thing is for sure to stay on your line.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: BillThomas on March 02, 2007, 11:18:49 AM +0000
Had a great evening, managed to push a bit harder than my last race, and even managed to keep one car behind me on the track.

I too was fooled by my inconsistent pit signals.  They told me you were over 10 secs behind so I drove steady and moved over to let you pass with the overtakers.  I was stunned.  After that I kept in touch, with a visual of you appearing/disappearing as our lap times varied.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Tsukuba - Mar 1
Post by: MortenS on March 03, 2007, 09:45:29 PM +0000
Thanks Fred, that's about what I did, but I'm not sure where I lost the most time; when holding line in turns or when slowing on straights. I think I find it best to just get out of the ideal racing line on straights and brake a bit early.

And Bill, I know you did let me by as you though I was lapping you. But I feel if I had you in front I was going to get by anyway, but as you were behind and I had no one in front I had not much to push for, so therefor I made many mistakes.