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Season 39 - 69X – Round 6 – Grenzlandring


The 6th race in the 1969x Grand Prix series sees us at Grenzlandring, a track around the town of Wegberg in Germany.  The first race was held on 19th September 1948 in front of about 250,000 spectators. It was organised by silk weaving mill owner and keen racing driver Emil "Teddy" Vorster (Rheydt) and his Rheydter Club für Motorsport (RCM). From 1949 onwards, the organisation was in the hands of the Motorsport-Union-Grenzlandring, a co-operation of four motorsport clubs of the Lower Rhine region. The all-time lap record was set in September 1949 by Bavarian Georg "Schorsch" Meier on a supercharged BMW 500 motorbike at 216 km/h (134 mph) (clockwise driven) and in September 1951 Toni Ulmen set the all-time record for cars, driving his Veritas 2000 RS to 212 km/h (132 mph) (anti-clockwise). No doubt genuine Grand Prix cars would have been a lot quicker. Racing came to an end after 31 August 1952, when Helmut Niedermayr from Berlin crashed his Formula Two Reif/Veritas-Meteor at the exit of the Roermonder Kurve at nearly 200 km/h (120 mph) killing at least 13 spectators.

Please check the Season 39 pages for details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1531&theme=6) regarding rules and the 1969x F1 pages (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1601&theme=6) in particular.

Handicapping
The cars will be divided into five groups, each group containing cars of similar performance.
Drivers will be graded as either "Professional", "Intermediate" or "Amateur".
Drivers will be limited to cars from specific groups based on their grade
and must choose 2 cars and drive them an equal number of times.


Incidents will not be moderated as we race as gentlemen.
One (1x) Shift-R is allowed (with no need to make Stop & Go).

Race list	=	iGOR
Server	=	UKGPL_8
IP address Server	=	TBA
Password	=	see above (#post_event_password)
GPL Mod	=	69X
Damage model	=	Intermediate
60fps Patch	=	60fpsV1
Track directory	=	grnzland (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=9255%20%20http://andre-gpl-texture.speedgeezers.net/)
Qualifying starts	=	20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race starts	=	~ 21:30 UK time
Race length	=	27 laps
Replay	=	here (https://www.mediafire.com/file/m4m4cazsxg4kv43/UKGPL_8__60fps.2021.11.12.23.25.rpy.7z/file)

Drivers will be graded as either "Professional", "Intermediate" or "Amateur".

Please tell me your car choice before the next race ;)

pro   Alain Maurice (FT)
int   AnGex (FT)                                    
am   Claudio Navonne (FT)                                    
int   Cookie (FT)                                    
am   dave curtis (FT)                                    
pro   EvilClive (FT)                                    
int   fpolicardi (FT)                                    
pro   GrandPrixYannick (FT)                                    
am   PaulV (FT)                                    
pro   Pete Bennett (FT)                                    
int   Philippe Girard (FT)                                                                
pro   Baab (R1)    
int    bagrupp (R1)                              
am   Billy Nobrakes (R1)                                    
int   Doni Yourth (FT)                                    
pro   Enrique Farina (R1)                                    
int   francesco (R1)                                    
int   Gareth (R1)                                    
pro   Leo Menegucci (R1)
pro   MagicArsouille (R1)                                      
int   Phil Thornton (R1)                                    
int   Rainier (R1)
pro  Greg Taber (R1)

Important

As we have now 23 registered driver, we use the following procedere:

If at 21:05 UK time the server is full with >17 drivers

The Reserve driver have to leave for 10 Minutes to give waiting Full time driver the chance to join

GLA + FUN

Drivers will be limited to cars from specific groups based on their grade
and must choose 2 cars and drive them an equal number of times.


And if we race an uneven number of races...  ;D
I hope to race 5 times in this series, so I guess 3 times Ferrari and 2 times BRM will be allowed !   

Yes of course David.  :laugh:

If you race 5 times, you should stop half way through race 3 and swap cars.  :stupid:

I tripped over David 2 x after putting a wheel on the grass. Getting too messy so I parked the car. Don't think this series is for me.

First Tristan nudges me which caused me to hit a post on the circuit, and afterwards became the instigator of a huge incident which resulted in me unable to react to a Lotus half-reversing back on track.
This guy is a :censored: hazard on the track! Expect a report when I get to write one.

Apologies to Leo for the incident at T1.

All my fault when I downshifted 5th to 4th.......................but selected 2nd.................and you had a close up view of what happened  :-\ :scared: :scared:

 

Yannick,

Sorry, that was me. I was bouncing around against the haybales with a box full of neutrals and NO reverse. (I had the wrong GPLSHIFT.ini selected so no Reverse gear on my Linux G27 - My mistake entirely)

Still friends?

No worries, Pete. There was a slow car on the inside of the final corner's exit I had to avoid as well. I should have lifted, because it all happened too fast.

Yes Yannick,
I see that some driver do not understand what a not moderated series and a self-responsible gentleman behaviour means.

My race was also affected by these actions, because all competition was suddenly gone and what was supposed to be a race became a lonely ride.

I hope Tris reads along here and will be a little more patient and respectful in the future.

No problem Clive. Mistakes we all can make. I made my share  :D

Just wish some others read Cookie's words and think about it.

 

I looked at the incidents...
As this race was started with "no moderation" - I will not do it.

BUT

From next Friday the 69x and CA71 series will be moderated for reported incidents.

Sorry to Yannick for the toutch, ( at 0:07;39 ) it's the stupid wing who toutch the tire....of course it was very close racing, I can said more : it's a very dangerous track , I was doing the lap flat out , never toutch the break !!....and quite boring track to , only left turns  who give me some problems because of the big difference of "carrossage " négatif on right side and positif left side ! that's why it was more difficult to keep the line on straignt line 'cause the car just want to go on the left !!....
about the second accident ,please look at the reaplay before said things !....in fact , Andreas sudenly slow down 300m before the last turn ( lap 8 ) at 285 km/h ....if you have a look at the lap 7 he is still at 301 km/h when he's enter in the last turn ....300m  later !! how can avoid sutch action ??....nobody can !....what's append Andreas ?....
then when Yannick arrive in the last turn lap 8, there is one car stop on the right side another crusing on the left side and the marshal mouving IS YELLOW FLAG but Yannick still full trottle !!...that why he can't avoid Pete !   ...so, Yannick  retirement is not my fault ! You said I ' m dangerous , but don't care about yellow flag , that's dangerous !...specialy on this track whith no where to go out track !..
Sorry to Andreas for the last contact , on the reaplay it's look more like a GPL  bug , I don't see realy contact...
few laps later I lost the car in straight line 'cause of the problem I said before ....
...Cookie, I know I'm not perfect , who is ?.....I can do mistake like everybody and it's not because I have no respect , I use to crasch myself than to hit someone else ....

Just a hint,
I do control my distance to other cars by looking at the top center pribluda info - less than 6-7m is dangerous for me ...

(https://i.ibb.co/sWX61Gt/Bildschirmfoto-2021-11-16-14-02-59.png) (https://ibb.co/SfZdm8J)

Once again:
I never assume that someone here intentionally fouls another!

Here people drive with very different possibilities, both from the talent and from the technical side.
Also the age differences are not to be underestimated.
That's why it's a special requirement for the faster ones to plan a larger safety buffer.

The upcoming CA71 race will once again bring an increase in speed of up to 20% - so special consideration and caution is required here in particular to allow everyone to have fun.

I don't really know what happened there. In any case, it was certainly not intentional on Tristan's part, as Yannick portrayed it. He should take a look at his own nose. In Germany we have a saying: "He who sits in a glass house should not throw stones". I would just like to remind you of the 68 race in Kyalami, F2 in Zandvoort and 69 in Mosport. Shooting down lapped drivers and further reckless driving.

That's not how meant to I portray it. Of course I do not think Tristan did this on purpose, but both incidents were caused of similar reasons that, in my opinion, were very much avoidable.
Tristan and I also had a fallout about one another earlier this year, which got me some blood boiling and got me venting here without much forethought. So my apologies for the harsh words I wrote. Didn't mean to put it like that.

As I also wrote earlier, replying to Pete, I didn't handle the second incident well either. I saw there was a big incident, but because there was initially just a still yellow flag (meaning, incident but no cars on track), I trusted myself I could go on without too many cautionary methods. I saw a slow going Doni I could pass it on the outside, and a Lotus on the side of the track which I thought I could avoid. At that point I should have slowed down, but we know what happened next. Overconfidence. My loss.

I'm not going to look everything back up again, but I'm aware that I have a tendency to get quickly impatient or overzealous behind the wheel.
All I can say -now that's been brought up- is that it's a trait of mine that needs taming and that I'll make an attempt to put emphasis on it for the remainder of the season.

I recommend a realistic FOV, rather than little numbers, to judge the safe distance to other cars. 8)

So, you say we have to use 78° no matter wich size or ratio our monitor (14"- 55" 4:3 16:9 21:9) has and wich distance we sit from it (20cm to 5m) ?

Can you give us your definition of this "realistic Field of View" ?

We have had this discussion about FOV, and viewing distance earlier this year.  The realistic FOV is that which mathematically matches the focal distance of the Human eye.  I  ' blew up, ' the ideas about different distances from your screen for realism, from a guy who kept returning to SRMZ, from another Sim, because his information was mostly wrong!  Needed a large screen to avoid eye strain. or back strain, and needed a realistic FOV to do what was advertised.  It assumed the 2D screen we look at, gives us a racing World that is also two dimensional. The track is squashed into the screen, folks!  Long, complex, awe inspiring tables with calculations flowed across the page.  2D calculations.  But 3D optics bend.  The World does not appear as a flat screen, either ahead, or behind us, or passing through us. :o 8)

You are free to choose any FOV for racing, though not originally made for the Sim.  You may find distance a problem, and glancing L & R for safety a problem, and mirrors a problem.  We must each choose  - some guidance is good - some guidance is bad

It seems you have the one and only truth....

Is 78° the right FOV for all the possible combinations?

Is GPL unique ? as all modern Sims have the adjustable  FOV in their settings.

Thanks, I have done exactly this!

Especially this part:

Not so much this part, but I've chosen to ignore it - which I'm allowed to!