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Prototype Potluck Round 2
The BOAC (1)50.0

Welcome to Round 2 of the Prototype Potluck series - after the relatively open and fast Spa we now dive into the woods in Kent for 150 miles of abuse on the Brands Hatch GP circuit. This is our version of the (early) 1960's world championship 'BOAC 500' events, but I didn't think you guys would be too keen on 6 hours worth of racing...
(Random fact - the race would remain the BOAC 500 regardless of actual length for the entirety of BOAC's sponsorship into the early 70's)

Keep in mind the advice from last time regarding driving to your own and your competitors cars strengths and weaknesses and this one should turn out to be quite a close challenge. Gearing will be your biggest challenge here given that these cars mostly raced at very high speeds.

Extra Kudos to those who play their Joker here - especially if you can match Pedro Rodríguez's performance from the 1970 running and win by 5 laps over the rest of the field (Other 917's and the 512's included).
Here's some video to get you into the mood: https://youtu.be/K0YCGF3ncEY (https://youtu.be/K0YCGF3ncEY)

Qualifying etiquette
To match most race events of the late 60's we are having a combined 1 hour practice and qualifying.
Due to this the track will contain drivers who are practising and setting up and also drivers who are running a qualifying lap.
If you are on a hot lap please turn your headlights on - and remember to turn them off again once finished.
If you are simply practising or working on setups please keep your headlights off and try not to hold up drivers who are on hot laps if you can avoid it - you'll want them out of your way when it's your own turn to try and qualify. ;)

Please note that the start time has been moved slightly forward from our traditional time - this is to allow the race to finish at a similar time to normal

Practice/Qualifying: 19:00 (60 mins)
Race                  :  20:00 (62 laps)

Cars allowed:

Drivers must either post their car choice here or PM it to me by 18:00(UK time) on Tuesday the 14th. This is so I can ensure the server has the correct numbers of cars available. You can inform me in advance if you wish to do so.
Drivers who have posted/sent their preference will get priority, so turning up without 'booking' your car could result in your being being removed from the server to make room for someone who has booked. You will then have to rejoin in something that is available whether you have practised in it or not.
You can see my own car choice listed in the Series announcement thread.

Ford GT40
Porsche 908LH
Ferrari 330 P4
Porsche 917k

Track:  Brands Hatch GP
Stock Kunos circuit - requires Dream Pack 3 DLC


Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat (http://stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat)

Time of Day Setting: 15:00
Weather: Mid Clear
Start: Standing
Damage:   80%
Fuel use:  100%
Tire Wear: 100%
Pit-stops: Not mandatory - but you will probably need them ;)

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=96
RANDOMNESS=2
LAP_GAIN=0.035
SESSION_TRANSFER=80

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.

Notes:
(1)PLP App - Not used in this event. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.
(2)Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules especially the
rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) Please exercise caution when pitting as some tracks have a speed limit.
(4) Please follow the SROUK guidelines for using kerbs etc. Please keep 2 wheels on the track surface (kerbs do not count as track surface)
Excessive cutting of corners will seen as cheating and the results may be altered to reflect this.

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Syd Drake:   908=0    P4=0   GT40=0   917=1
Max:         908=0    P4=1   GT40=0   917=0
vva_avv:     908=0    P4=1   GT40=0   917=0
FMG:         908=1    P4=0   GT40=0   917=0
Kaifos:      908=0    P4=1   GT40=0   917=0
Mark J:      908=0    P4=1   GT40=0   917=0
Stefan:      908=0    P4=1   GT40=0   917=0
SimMadPaul:  908=0    P4=1   GT40=0   917=0
Lorenzo:     908=0    P4=0   GT40=1   917=0
Goldtop:     908=1    P4=0   GT40=0   917=0
Kimi:        908=0    P4=0   GT40=1   917=0
Geoffers:    908=0    P4=0   GT40=1   917=0
Bob:         908=0    P4=1   GT40=0   917=0
L4de:        908=1    P4=0   GT40=0   917=0
Phillippe:   908=0    P4=0   GT40=1   917=0

I have a framed original poster from this event at Brands Hatch in the 1970's (12th April to be precise).

Just saying.

I think that's the fates' way of saying you should join us next week then Tony - I'll even turn the grip down to 40% for you  ;)

Can't we have it in wet weather!!!!! :eek:

I'm throwing it out there,  I will take the Porsche 908  this time.



Saving that 917 for something big and scary later on ;D

I ve just done a few laps. Brands will be hell.
Very challenging, no time to relax and smoke a bit on straight like in Spa.
Advice: assign keys for pit-stop controls. And take care about your gearbox.

Nice to know that I'm not only one who that on straights....  :angel:

I generally have a glass of whiskey on hand for the long straights....
Not such a good idea in VR though....

Hmm was looking to see what  is planned over Xmas to race... but this doesn't sound like something to just turn up for. 

There are a couple of events over at simracing.gp that might be of interest for those looking to get some practice in.

90 minutes of GT40 vs 330 P4 at Mugello on Saturday....

https://beta.simracing.gp/events/Hxqj0gkVgUgU5cNgN_fht

60 minutes of Ginetta GT4s at Brands on Sunday (as I doubt there will be any racing here)....

https://beta.simracing.gp/events/nVX94mw1eIh3UHquaOLj_

I think you might have to be premium at Race Dept for the Ginettas but at least that keeps the nutters away.

Or keeps them away from the rest of us! 60mins in the Ginetta, youve got to be mad....(Cant access the link... my first thought was the ACC GT4 Ginetta!)

this would be exhaustingly epic to race.  :tt1:  Love the old BOAC 500 posters and reading about those races. Sadly it clashes with my Xmas Porsche cup endurance at Sebring in my regular series so will have to pass  :'(

Enjoy yourselves in my local woods  :thumbup1:

wind it in GT  ;), it is hard enough getting people to turn up on a Sunday without you advertising the opposition

330 for me please.
GT40 and 908 seem to be far behind on that track. IMHO.

908 4 me pls.

Porsche 908 to Brands please.

908 here too please.

would like to race please, with Ferrari
thank you

Ferrari here too.

Unfortunately i'll miss this one, see you in Mosport!

Ferrari for me.

908 Thanks.

I'll try to join in the Ferrari.

908 for me too please Tim.

Will try 908 also if one available.

No problems with availability Bob - That's why I need to know who's driving what before the event, provided people tell me I can set the server appropriately :)

GT40 for me please. See you track side :)

Going to start tonight but may not last the whole race.

On the above note....
I'm about to pop out to get a booster jab - if the server is slightly late to appear don't panic!

Lets hope my arm waits until after the race to turn into a balloon, or I'll be struggling to finish too! ;D

Congrats to the podium.
I certainly missed a golden chance for a podium myself, as I think I could have gotten it on pace (and car of course).
Unfortunately my replay starts around 25 minutes, so I can't look at the incident I had with Max on lap 2 t1. From what I remember you lost it a bit, went sideways and I  started to lose it myself and clipped you. I definitely got the worst of it, as I spun right into someones path and got hit hard. I barely manged to get to the pits, as my suspension was broken. After a long stop for repairs I got just behind vva, but on my cold tires I had to let several cars by, and found myself again behind Max, only this time a lap down. As my tires warmed up, I started to catch those in front of me. I knew it was a long race, and if I had any chance on improving I'd have to unlap myself. Otherwise I might as well have parked it.
I'm not sure why, perhaps you blamed me for lap 2 incident, but Max fought me hard for the place on track, if not position in the standings. This time when you went off, it seemed to me that you braked too late, at least I didn't feel any contact. I know you quit right after that, Max. I hope we can still race, and there are no hard feelings.
After that I slowly unlapped myself from most of the cars, generally without a fight, and by the pitstop on lap 38 or so I was right behind Kimi who was 6th. I thought I'll pit a lap or two early and get it him after he stops. One very looong pitstop later, I was back in 9th. The closer we got to the end, the more it was becoming obvious the porches won't be stopping. I still got Jari for 8th, and just as I was about to pass Kai for 7th I spun and lost around 10 seconds. Tim got by me at that time (a lap ahead in second). I continued and still got passed Kai, but in my attempts to unlap myself again, I went off twice more, losing around 4-5 seconds each time. Without those I think I still had a chance to get Kimi for 6th, even with two pitstops.
All in all a very long race, with still lots of action for me even after I went a lap down right at the beginning.

Well, that went better than I had reason to expect!
Very bad luck to Syd and Max, I saw the 1st off and it seemed fairly innocent from a few cars back, but even the 2nd one occurred before my replay started so have no idea what happened there.
The GT40 has very good cold tire/low grip pace as it's probably the most neutrally handling car in the field, so their off's promoted me to 2nd or 3rd very early on.
As the track gripped up I was slowly caught and then passed by the Ferrari's of Watty and Paul, I tried holding them off a bit as I was fairly sure the GT has a shorter pit stop time due to the extra fuel it carries, but this simply ended with me pushing too hard and having small offs that allowed them by.

Syd eventually caught me to un-lap himself so I had a fairly 'soft' fight with him until I again fell off a bit and he got through. I think I was down to 4th by this point and as Max had left I was probably fairly safe there if I could keep on gapping the Porsches behind at the rate I had been.

A few laps after halfway I threw the towel in and pitted as my rear left had turned yellow and I was noticeably slower. ~30Ltrs of fuel and 4 new tires later and I was off again, still in-front of the chasing Porsches although not by a massive margin.

It remained pretty quiet from there till the end barring another half-hearted scrap with Syd when he caught me - sorry, I'd been running alone for ages and wanted a scrap! ;)

Well done to VVA for the win and to Watty for what may be his first podium with us? (At least in AC land).

Round 3 is in the new year, and I think that Brands is probably the hardest track in terms of driver input so it's 'easy' from here on in ;)

That was a tough race  :sweatdrop:

I spent practice/quali trying out the different gear sets in the 908 and didn't find any of them were ideal, think I eventually settled on the same set I used at Spa. Didn't really get a proper lap in with low fuel but with my slow starts it didn't really make any difference and I arrived last at T1 as usual.

A few offs up front and I was soon chasing Kimi and we had a very nice and very long battle for position. I had to ease back at one point as my tyres and me were getting too worn out trying to find a way through. I eventually slipped past when he ran wide and was able to keep the postion until the end despite a couple of little errors later on.

Very happy with 5th overall and 1st of the Porsches which I think is the best I could have hoped for considering the company. Little margin for error at Mosport so I'd better get some practice in.

Any chance of a fun race next week Tim? I'll be getting a bit twitchy by then without my regular racing fix.

I do have the replay, so if you want watch yourself and decide...   TBH I didn't even realise it was you again the 2nd time Syd, I figured you were way back behind as I opted to keep going and see how the laptimes played out with my bent suspension and so on.

http://maxveloce.com/stuff/AC_221221-brands_hatch_gp.7z


Got to say I monkey throwing poop mad at the time, but watching that back now its just racing and $#!! happens...


And sorry to VVA, didn't intend to push you in T1, you just braked a bit more than I anticipated - which I guess is just the same as Syd did to me on Lap 2.   Congrats on the Win and to the rest of the finishers  :)

+1 here, let's go to Mosport and do pre-race with something stupid we haven't use yet or Quattro vs. Celica ST.

Good race but strangely rather disappointed to finish 4th.

Lost a place at the start to Tim but moved into 3rd when Syd & Max tangled & moved into 2nd a lap or so later when Tim ran wide at Paddock Hill. Pulled away from him thanks to having a faster car & had around 4s gap back to Watty after he got past Tim. The next 20 laps remained pretty static with VVA about 10s ahead & Watty around 3s behind. Then Watty started gaining pace & caught me & when I made an error at Westfields he went past, hoped to fight back but two corners later I had the first of several half spins, losing the rear turning into the corner.

The second half of the race was punctuated by several more of these errors & at one stage I was down to 5th behind GT, but he too made one or two errors & I was able to recover 4th place & pull away.

Congrats to VVA, Tim & Watty on the podium.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Something stupid you say, how about the Ferrari F2004  8)

I watched the replay. I probably braked slightly late going into t1 and almost hit you, managed to go wide and miss you, but then you kind of slid into my path and I collected you. I think it was a racing incident, but in retrospect, I should have been more patient. I wasn't trying for an overtake into T1, that is a difficult place to attempt a pass, but I also didn't know the relative top speed of the ferrari and porsche. Before this race I only drove the 917 at spa, and ferrari here. I didn't realize ferrari was so much faster in a straight line, and probably caught up too much too quickly on the front straight.

Or these....

https://www.f1classic.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=293

When I say stupid, I mean slow, but not always.. :)

Max, It was actually my idiotic mistake - wrong gear (2nd to the limit instead of early 3rd) and hit on brake because of rear starting sideways on cold tyres in that very demanding right-hander... My bad Max, i paid for it myself with yellow rear.

Generally very hard and very lonely race for me. Hoped on good fight with Max, but not this time.
Ferra is charming with her sensitiveness for setup. Trick: ride height HELPS!

Got tangled up in the 2nd lap incident and from there I ran 10th all the way to the flag. Car was a bit beaten up so couldn't get any fast laps out of it and it was a handful at certain parts of the lap. So much so I span too many times to count. I think I'll forget about this one. The GT40 was the wrong car to choose I hate this car :(. Maybe on a freer flowing track it maybe better but here it was joyless. Still only got to drive it 2 more times.

Well done to vva and the other podiums.

See you next time

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all :)

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