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Title: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 14, 2007, 08:28:33 PM +0000
All members welcome.

Practice: 20:15 (15 mins)
Qualifying: 20:30 (20 mins)
Race: 20:50 (22 laps = ~40 mins)

Track: Zandvoort GP v1.1 (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27))
Cars allowed: Porsche 906, Ford Capri, Porsche 911 RSR, BMW CSL, Ford Escort
Time of Day Setting: 06:00
Start: Rolling

Server: UKGTL GTC-76 Cup; in the event that the lobby is unavailable, connect using Direct IP, entering games.avonrise.co.uk in the Add IP box
Password: See this post (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2686.0)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7).
(3) General information on the series can be found on the series home page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=46).
(4) The season will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.3 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27).


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: zarker on March 22, 2007, 09:49:53 PM +0000
which version of zandvoort?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 22, 2007, 09:53:40 PM +0000
which version of zandvoort?

It's the GP circuit. Please download the track from the link provided to make sure you have the right version. It's DutchDevils v1.1 version of the track.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Nevski on March 22, 2007, 10:14:34 PM +0000
Is 06:00 dark? If so I'll skip this one as my fps in GTL is poor at the best of times.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: zarker on March 23, 2007, 12:00:34 AM +0000
this version of zandvoort seems really heavy on processing power. With just me at 13:00 i was gettng lots of stutters and an average fps of about 50, with a min of 30 - and i can usually have everything maxed out with 23 cars and still have a full FPS at 75.

for some reason it seems to perform worse with the 906, especially when powering out of corners with a bit of slide.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Nevski on March 23, 2007, 12:39:19 AM +0000
Just checked and 06:00 is daylight - blinding, sun right in my face daylight  8)

I have a request - can we add the Escort to the available car choices? Variety is the spice of life as they say, and I don't think it's any quicker than the choices already available...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Mr.BMW on March 23, 2007, 01:51:35 AM +0000
Told you that the next time you race the BMW i will work :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 23, 2007, 09:22:10 AM +0000
I have a request - can we add the Escort to the available car choices? Variety is the spice of life as they say, and I don't think it's any quicker than the choices already available...

I didn't put the Escort in cause it can't keep up with this set of cars. If you want it in then I don't have a problem with that, but good luck keeping up.  :P


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Nevski on March 23, 2007, 09:26:04 AM +0000
That's okay, the Escort is just sooooooo much fun drifting through those Zandy esses that I'll be enjoying myself too much to notice  :P


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Madd-RIP on March 23, 2007, 12:19:52 PM +0000
Damn, what a dilemma, 3 of my fave cars...choices choices!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Mr.BMW on March 24, 2007, 05:43:38 AM +0000
just keep rubbing it in my face, jerks  :'(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: zarker on March 24, 2007, 08:08:21 PM +0000
Think i may skip this one - too much graphical slowdown for me.


Erm - ignore the above. I just had my gfx driver settings maxed out AA/AS to try and reduce speckly/sparkly bits on some tracks.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Splintheter on March 28, 2007, 08:55:17 AM +0100
Guys, The practice server appears to be on imola, can we change it to Zandvoort?

Thanks,

Ant


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Splintheter on March 28, 2007, 08:56:39 AM +0100
Ignore my last post, Im being an idiot, I havent downloaded the track  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 28, 2007, 09:01:33 AM +0100
Ignore my last post, Im being an idiot has I havent downloaded the track  ::)

LOL, you're not the first. :D :angel:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Jeffrey on March 28, 2007, 10:41:21 AM +0100
Gonna miss this as I'm gonna go to '300', shame as Zandvoort rocks  8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Mark J on March 28, 2007, 08:16:02 PM +0100
Going to miss your home track Ruskus  ??? :( 

Great circuit zandvoort, like a flipping roller coaster thru the sand dunes  ;D

Very technical, but gets a nice flow to it once you have completed a few laps and learn the corners. Spent some time blatting around in my martini Porsche 911  8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Jeffrey on March 28, 2007, 09:33:09 PM +0100
Going to miss your home track Ruskus  ??? :( 

Yeah that's a shame, but on the other hand, I don't like the 76 class too much. I'd take the GTC65 over the 76'ers anyday  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 28, 2007, 10:02:40 PM +0100
Gonna miss this as I'm gonna go to '300'

Saw that tonight. Not that impressed although perhaps my expectations were set too high. ??? Battle scenes very well done though.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Adam Parle on March 29, 2007, 08:22:05 AM +0100
I'm missing this race as well ..... got a dinner to go to.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Mark J on March 29, 2007, 10:19:34 AM +0100
Hmm, time for my 'hope its going to be well attended' comment...just to stir some 'maybe's' into action  :P

Great track, great cars and should be great racing...what more do you want? 8)

I will be there for sure, but have a 79 F1 race at Oster-reichring to attend first, so will turn up late praccy or qually, unless i get an early bath at F1.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Splintheter on March 29, 2007, 02:02:52 PM +0100
Ill be your resident back marker tonight  :P



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Nevski on March 29, 2007, 09:00:48 PM +0100
Short race for me - shame because it looked like being a close one this time. Unfortunately the 06:00 race time killed my fps and i didn't make it round the first lap.  :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Madd-RIP on March 29, 2007, 09:02:30 PM +0100
 >:( Less said the better :no:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on March 29, 2007, 09:16:16 PM +0100
Up to 5th and looking like I could give Shark something to worry about and my connection was Nildramified. >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: will16v on March 29, 2007, 09:44:32 PM +0100
Gutted i missed this one - had some work to do, and only just finished  >:(
Anyway, hopefully be there for the next GTL event  :-*


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 29, 2007, 09:47:32 PM +0100
Practice and qually another learning curve to learn the track and come race I was going fine. Really sorry to MadRipp on the first lap who I nudge in the rear after missing my braking point. Completely stupid and I felt very guilty so slowed onto the grass and waited for him to come back past before continuing.

After that MR went off on his own in front which left me a nice gap to go for it. Gizmo started closing me down and I wondered how that would go later on but he got disco'd, stupid internet, then I caught Priberio who I managed to pass much more easily than I thought I would. Finally Stu who had made an error somewhere came back on and I was ahead of him. Managed to keep ahead for most of the race and then 2 laps? from the end he passed me with a great move at the start of the circuit and I couldn't get back enough, but it was close. Had a big moment on the last lap as I vaguely thought about the inside into one of the tight right handers, but it was only a vague look and the damn think snatched a wheel and I only just recovered to keep within distance but with half a lap left was the end for the challenge.

Well done Baracus on the win.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: pribeiro on March 29, 2007, 09:53:30 PM +0100
Congratulations Baracus, solid win :thumbup2:
Im sorry to hear those fps and loosing connection problems :hammer:
I qualified 4th, but on 2nd lap i realised i couldnt follow Sttufy and baracus (was in 3rd by now)
then Sttufy spun two times (up to 2nd by now), but Baracus out of sight :o
after that, with Sttufy on my rear bumper, i spun also :whistling:, but i hit hard
the barriers and i lost my front splitter :eek:, now imagine what is doing 2/3 of race without that :helpsmilie:
Rwd Capri with  a Fwd behavior :sweatdrop: at Zandvoort caroussel :-X
Last 5 laps were a nightmare, so much understeer that my seating chair was understeering too :lol:
Not many drivers tonight, but i hope more will join in future, count with me as long as i can :yes:
Ahhhhhh, managed finish 4th ;D
Well done to Simon and Sttufy for the podium places, right after Baracus ;)
Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 29, 2007, 09:57:06 PM +0100
Provisional results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=320), replay (http://ukgtl.simracing.org.uk/) and provisional standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=47) available.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: zarker on March 29, 2007, 10:02:27 PM +0100
well - I could hAve won tonight - unfortunately my engine caught fire and blew up after a few laps - which blew all my chances  :P

haha

oh well - there's always next time :)

watched the leaders and their driving stsyle - may have learned a few things.

no wonder the FPS is hard hitting - i cycled through the exterior views and found a high birds-eye view - the detail for miles around is amazing - office blocks - lakes - houses. A real well made track - but maybe just a little superflouous detail.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Mark J on March 29, 2007, 10:20:34 PM +0100
what a cracking combination of cars, superb graphics, great daytime settings (nice one Simon 8) ) and a challenging track layout  :thumbup1:

and such a shame that we cannot get good grid turnouts.  :'( Mind you, 15 runners was pretty good but about 6 seemed to drop out within the first 5 minutes  :no:  :'(
Was hoping for some cracking 70's race action but everyone just seemed to bin it or give up early or have connection problems.  :(
I think the only guy i got to race on track was Bernie in the fantastic looking Legends Capri.

The vista was stunning as you came around some of the cambered turns with that dusky skyline and cool looking cars. Had great fun in my tail happy Martini 911, but still swore at it a few times when the back end would break away at the most ludicrous times, and yet feel fabulous doing long power slides through other corners.

Brought it home a good steady 5th?  8)despite a couple of last lap excursions that cost me a heap of time  :-[
A packed grid would have been awesome here.

I think i mentioned this at the last race, but doesnt anyone think these races are just a bit too long with the lower turnouts and effort required just to keep the cars on track ? I would rather the races were half hour or even 2x20 min races. As soon as the meagre field spreads out it gets a little dull and lacking in action whereas a shorter race might bunch us up more and entice other drivers along.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Madd-RIP on March 29, 2007, 10:25:35 PM +0100
 ;) My earlier narkiness wasn't so much about the incident Simon,(thanks for waithing btw) but more about havin a car after the effect that drove like an Astra VXR, oodles of grunt but naff all turn in or front end grip! Also after I went off on my own I ended up the other side of the barriers so...pretty much game over.
If I'd not ended on the Dark side  :P  I would have continued but usually you cannot get back on track.
Shame, as it looked like it would have been a doozy of a race!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Splintheter on March 29, 2007, 11:10:02 PM +0100
Guys,

Thanks for a great race, my Beemer wasnt fast (or was that me) but she sure was reliable and I got home in 7th  ;D Still have a lot to learn, but I did have bags of fun, and the car felt like it was handeling better towards the end of the race, but that could have just been me getting used to the car/track combo.


Well done to the front runners, some brilliant consistantly fast pace.  :D

Ant


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: TinMan on March 29, 2007, 11:12:27 PM +0100
Joined the 'Lost Connection' boys on the countdown for the race. Damn annoying to do practice and qualifying and not get to race. Is it me, or do the disco's, lost connections, lobby going down seem to be getting worse?

TC


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: RealMrPot on March 30, 2007, 09:35:37 AM +0100
That was a fun race at an excellent track.

First few laps were steady, with Baracus right behind me. Then started to squeeze the pace a bit but this gave some erratic laps - I'd gain a small lead on Baracus, then give it all up on the next lap. Then, around mid-race, a stupid error saw me spin - my little finger caught the shifter paddle knocking me into first gear, causing back tyres to lock and spin my on the spot. I kept going (in reverse!), but the flip-spin to get forwards again saw me on the grass. Credit to Baracus for avoiding anything metallic in the the smoke :).  I rejoined, and across the Start line again I was 9 seconds behind. Very soon afterwards, I part-spun having cooked the rear tyres, and now the gap was nearer 18 seconds and I was behind Pribeiro.

Pribeiro's mistake saw me back into second, and for a couple of laps I could set about reducing Baracus's lead - it was coming down at about 0.5 to 1 second a lap, not enough to catch him, but at least I could keep some pressure on ;)

Then, another mistake - this time into the 3rd-gear left hander after the blind flat-out bends. I braked to hard entering the bend, locked the fronts and ran wide on to the gravel and bashed the front against the barrier. I rejoined, and had Simon in front and Pribeiro ahead. I could catch and follow Simon, but couldn't get close enough for a pass until around lap 20, when I got good drag into T1 and squeezed through on the inside.

And so it finished, with Baracus a fair way ahead, and Simon breathing down my neck!  Great fun.

See you all next time!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: BillThomas on March 30, 2007, 11:54:52 AM +0100
Apologies to Baracus for misjudging your speed/commitment to line, expect you had a laugh when you saw me waiting in the kitty litter at the next corner for you to pass - actual I lost concentration looking for you in the mirror and outbraked myself.   :oops:

Had a lonely race after the first couple of laps - no one in sight until about lap 16 when I saw a 906 closing on me, tried without success to pick a nice spot to be overtaken moved left to give Baracus a clear run into the bend with above result.  About 2 laps from the end I saw the 2nd and 3rd behind me, managed to do it right that time moved to the right and backed off on the start/finish straight.  Other than that an uneventful drive.  In the absence of some of the faster drivers and accidents, I quess, only the Podium drivers lapped me.  A first.   ;D

Can't make next week see you Thursday week.

Bill


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Simon Gymer on March 30, 2007, 01:46:29 PM +0100
For those having graphics FPS issues, if you haven't already tried these, some of these tweaks can make a MASSIVE difference...

Open up your .plr file for GTLegends and do the following:
Data Acquisition In Race="1" ---->change value to "0"

Driver Animations="1" ---->change value to "0"

Trackside Characters="1" ---->change value to "0"

Disable All Character Anims="0" ---->change value to "1"

LOD Multiplier Multiplier="1.00250" ---->change value to "0.99000"

Arms Visible In Cockpit="1"  ---->change value to "0"

Windscreen dirt buildup="1"  ---->change value to "0"

Swaying Trees="1"  ---->change value to "0"

In game graphics settings:
Using “Very Far” draw distance is not much of a FPS killer but better use "Normal" draw distance, it's more than enough and definitely keeps FPS much more stabilized (less variation of FPS around the track).

"Track detail" can be a FPS killer if it's on FULL, decrease it to HIGH or MEDIUM.

Using shadows in MAX is another FPS killer, HIGH or MEDIUM is the best option.

"Special Effects" in HIGH or FULL will kill quite some game speed, reduce them to MEDIUM or LOW.

"Headlight Effects" in HIGH or MEDIUM will kill FPS with headlights on. Reduce to LOW effects essentially makes headlights only draw on track rather than other cars, but will increase FPS with headlights on massively.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Nevski on March 30, 2007, 09:41:45 PM +0100
Cheers Simon, looks like I had the wrong settings for most of those things. Hopefully my venerable P4 2.0 Ghz with 768mb of RD ram and a GT6600 agp card will be able to cope a bit better from now on  8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Mr.BMW on March 31, 2007, 08:04:22 AM +0100
I hate missing my BMW :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: pribeiro on March 31, 2007, 01:33:08 PM +0100
Nevski, every time i see your avatar i have to put some music on ;D
BTW, i am a cat lover :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: Nevski on April 01, 2007, 11:30:37 PM +0100
Nevski, every time i see your avatar i have to put some music on ;D
BTW, i am a cat lover :)

I have two lovely little pussies in my house at all times  :P

If you like music and cats, you should like this

http://www.rathergood.com/independent_woman/



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (GTC-76 Cup) - Zandvoort (GP) - Mar 29
Post by: zarker on April 02, 2007, 12:57:14 AM +0100
Nevski, every time i see your avatar i have to put some music on ;D
BTW, i am a cat lover :)

I have two lovely little pussies in my house at all times  :P

If you like music and cats, you should like this

http://www.rathergood.com/independent_woman/




LOFLROF

that's rathergood :)
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D