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Practice 1:	20:15	(10 mins)	full time drivers only
Practice 2:	20:25	(10 mins)	reserves may join too
Qual 2:	20:35	(20 mins)
Race:	21:00	(40 minutes)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT1 or G2 from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.3 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) (G2 cars will not score points).
Weather: Dry
Track: Anderstorp GP
Race Start Time 14:00 (rolling start)

Server: UKGTR GT1 Sprint
Password: available from the event page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=301) (see the Show Password link under the announcement text)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(3) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.

A good race lap time in GT1 would be?  ???

These are times driven without the weightchanges:

http://reports.simracing.nl/Simbin_GTR_en_mods/NL.GTR.5/reports/NLGTR5_A1/index.html

I think they were driven in dry, but I'm not sure as it might have been mildly moist ;D

Is there any way of testing weighted cars in single player?

Yes. In the screen where you can select class, be sure to pick the UKGTR class and there will be the cars.

thanks  :)

Any ideas on times for GT2??Hopefully not much less than 1:32  :-\

Mid 31's for me Luke though the RSR doesn't feel great around there. Maybe the new ballast will help save some time and improve the handling a little.

Colin 8)

Any chance of someone swapping the server over to this track as still on Valencia, cheers!

Tis done  :)

First post updated with details.

can everyone else but the GT1 full time drivers join as reserves too ?  :)

Yes - you should see "(you are a reserve)" next to the password link.

Cheers Dave, you really make me comfortable with your programming.  :)   But you're making other leagues look bad. Every time I race somewhere else I can't find anything.  :D   No, Haiku, I didn't mean TPG.  :(

TT

But am i reading this right?... Reserve spaces can be taken up by people taking non scoring G2 cars before we've established a full grid (or near as) of GT1 cars?
If so, its a bit naff, we should wait at least until all those hoping to compete in GT1 (even as a be-grudging reserve ::)) for this series are in before allowing the GT2's in. Perhaps a time delay?
I'd be (and others) mighty cheesed off if i/we did a load of practising for the race only to be gazumped by a non GT1 driver  :(

I can't imagine anyone will actually want to drive the awful 993 GT2 (the only G2 car) but what if they've spent loads of time practising only to be gazumped by a GT1? What if they could've beaten some of the GT1s?

True, but its called 'GT1 Sprint' after all  :P

Hey ho, i leave it to the fate of the gods.

Sorry Dave, I don't get this, really.  ???  You posted who's to be full time, but this way we don't get any GT1 reserves.  >:(  Either it's gonna be not full grid or full time GT1s and a few G2s? What if nobody takes G2 and MJ can't compete as a reserve GT1? Sorry, but it doesn't seem reasonable to me.  :(

TT

Perhaps I'm confused but can't reserves take a GT1 or a GT2 if they so desire?

Reserves (which is everyone who isn't full time) may take GT1 or G2.

For that matter, full time drivers could take G2 too if they wished.

Really, who genuinely thinks they will see any 993 GT2s on the grid? ::) Are you mad? :P

Why didn't you say so?!  ;D ::)  MJ, you're in!  8)

TT

Me too! :jumpjoy:

Hoping to get into this as well as a reserve. See you all tonight.

Hmmm - first race of the new season and a small handful of reserve places. A few people are going to be disappointed I think.

i´m in for tonight race, see all there :)

You're probably right Paul. I would have taken a full time spot if I could have but GT2 is my main choice and of course we only get 2 FT spots each.

Likewise, asked for a full time GT1 sprint drive but told i would have to give up another FT drive for it. So no deal. Would have thought my loyalty and attendance to previous championships might have held some sway, but to no avail  :(

Give it two rounds and you'll be begging for me back with your low grid turn outs....muhahah  ;)  ;D

Come and join me in GT2/GTC enduro (haven't decided which yet!) Mark we can continue our long racing scraps across the leagues!

Even the mods aren't getting more than 2 full time spots maximum.


In that case you'll have no problem getting in as a reserve. :P

Is it me or are there more people having trouble finding tonights password?

Jan

Go the event page (there is a link off the race announcement) and at the bottom is a show password link. Click it and it will update the page to show the passwrod.

Only the lazy ones who haven't read the race announcement - that's why it's moved! :P

If i am allowed to i would certainly enjoy a GT2/GTC scrap in the other endurance championship, got to confess i am confused as to what i can and cant race in and whether i can score points or not in both endurances ???  :-[
 
Is the plan to run clubmen enduro and masters enduro on alternate weeks?

Jebus, we're going to be swamped by leg-ends vertigo's  :). I wonder where you picked up such a strategy........

I don't think you'll find any Legends Vertigo's in the GT1 race ..... out mechanics are cigar smoking, Cinzano drinking, womanisers as you'd expect talented, but making the Vertigo competitive with the GT1 class might too much..... :P

Lol you could be right. However, I was taking about this


Personally speaking the more people, and especially Mark, that take part in the slower cars the better :)

Nothing has changed from last season except that:

• Everyone is eligible as a reserve if they aren't full time. (In Endurance I expect full timers, if they join the 'other' championship, to take non-scoring cars.)
• 'Academy' is now called 'Clubmen'.
• There's only one 'NGT' championship

There are far too many people taking this far too seriously right now! If you would all shut up I'd be able to get on with the registration process a lot faster! :P

Alas, I now cannot this race, so that's one more place open to a reserve!

Found the password,was not lazy jus did not see it thx anyway,why is everybody so jumpy about reserve/fulltime we all know how it is after 2 races,hope to see you nervess wrecks tonite ;)

Jan

Bad luck Edam  :( Does that mean as a teamie that I can have his place?  ;)

Hopefully you'll correct the spelling and call it Clubman.
 :P :P :angel:

Masters and Clubmen. Both plural. Saves arguments about apostrophe usage. ;)

In racing, clubman championships are always spelt with an a even though there are multiple club men. Google is your friend. :-* :-*

Where is the SPAM smiley??!!

(http://www.buddy-icons.info/img/smile/1715.gif)

 :notworthy: :notworthy:

but why not make them points scoring in their own sub-championship?  It would make attendance better, give drivers more inspiration to race hard and also make them endeavour to finish the race instead of quitting if they have an incident.
I assume the results are all auto reported from the game or lapcharts so that keeps admin down.

ps, if i go GT2 or GTC, it will prob be in a different car to the Vertigo, maybe Mosler or Porschecup car if GTC, but probably GT2 in an RSR. Might depend on what others racing on the night for choosing between the two classes.

That would be cool, kind of like in Enduro season 1 where people had a GT3 sub-championship in the other division iirc.

I do like that idea too.. it will surely make attendance higher throughout the season..  :)

We had this discussion at the end of Season 4. I had almost resolved to eliminate the split Endurance divisions but when presented with a choice of only two (and the removal of the split NGT Sprint divisions) there was overwhelming interest in Endurance. If we end up with empty grids again there will be only a single, invitation only Endurance championship in Season 6.

With ability-based divisions it's not desirable to mix the drivers up. If we really can't fill the grids with reasonably matched drivers there's fish all point doing it - if we've got enough GT3/G3/G2 drivers to make an extra championship work then the grid must be half empty!

Is password normal at the moment?

 :) :angel:

aah, you probably mean right now, it'll be the normal practice password atm I think

You have to be a fast typer nowadays to get in a race,i am not,also when the server states 25/26 i got a the game is full.
Hope to be full-time NGT (and not loose connection in prac2/q2.)

Jan :-\ :-\

After i typed the above message i went back and got in as 26th with 4min to spare in Q2 ???
Hopeless race then ,with wrong tyres softs all around.....

Was in from practice and then kicked during quali, was that to make place for full time racers ??  ???

Nope.Yup

Joined. Drove. Game froze. Restarted. Game full. The end.
Dunno why I bother

Aaarrggh! My first disco! Had just completed my last qual lap think I was in the top 10 and got a disco. Internet came back after 30 seconds and it had rolled to race! Oh well girlfriend happy but would have had a good race I think. At least it died during qual and not the race so didn't ruin it for anyone.  :(

Freq your not with BT are you?

Race start
Avoid carnage
Connection lost

I'm sure my connection bombed out when my wife picked up the phone ..... going to get on the BT website and see if there are any issues in the area.

I had my fingers crossed on this tonight, my connection dissapeared twice this evening.  Rebooted the router etc. So much for that.

Back to Stalker then I guess.

Adam me too and I am on BT. First problems since I moved house 3 weeks ago. Lost it first about 7:55pm and then again at end of qually. Guess they are having a few problems. Sorry to hear of your troubles too.

Another bad race. Tyres would not last at all so started on hards. Big mistake

Fuel calculator said I needed 90 odd litres for some reason and with 7mins to go I had 10 laps worth.Another mistake

More clitches for me. ON lap 4 i was between jure and jonzo. Suddenly computer froze and beholder appeared infront of he and I hit him side on. Don't it really did happen as he was 90 degress on main straigh, also he passed me a lap or two later

Also Jonzo who was behind suddenly was ahead by a good bit.

Nah, Virgin. Wasn't a connection error. Game froze when Ruskus joined and then the server was full. Just GTR doing what it does best.

Great race, really pleased with my 8th place. Qualified 9th with a decent 1.25.1. Got a decent start and was surrounded by the Racing 24-7 boys! Great racing lads. Chased Picnic at the start in that cracking lookin Shark Maser and then just steadily got taken by the faster folks. Got a nudge by Backo into the last turn and that was that really. Simon then caught me up and it wasn't long before he passed. Nice move mate. From then on in I just kept a steady pace and made sure my tyres lasted. Overloaded on fuel though, has about 20l to spare  ::)

All in all really great racing by everyone. Roll on GT2!

Colin 8)

No, just bad luck. We think the server is struggling with 26 and may have to drop to 24. :-\

Good race all, had a good few fights in there and was panicing towards end with Dave right behind me, kept on locking a wheel but corrected quickly enough so to not lose a place.

Was worried on the first lap seeing my brother flying upside down in the air tho. LOL :D

wondered what the hell happened there Kerr, i checked my mirror for a split second to see who was chasing me out of the corner, then as soon as i looked forward again, there was a spray of kevlar and you appeared about 200 metres behind me, even though i was nowhere near you on the straight  ??? weirdest warp i've seen.

New item to add to my mental checklist at race start...Check the bloody temperature outside !!  ::)  It was 30 degrees...in Sweden ???

Within a few laps my tyres were showing 217kpa  :o so knew i was going to be in for a tougher race than normal. I just hoped everyone else had been likewise caught out. :-\
I was trying to push but also preserve the tires, even early on. Shark was keeping a watching brief close behind for quite a few laps and i sensed he could tell i was struggling with one particular corner, that horrible off camber left 90 degree turn before the bridge (turn 6). Dont know why but my car refused to turn in there and i lost time to him every time as i tried to avoid that slippery bastard kerb on the outside. Eventually i touched it and like the true predator he is, Shark darted up the inside for the brief 10th of a second i had to lift. Nice move ya bugger  :P
He was the only one to get past me all race (i think) but once he was past i couldnt stay with him.
Got past a few others on my way to the end and with about 5 mins to go i wanted to try and keep the tyres on the car and ease off, but my teamie TT decided to attack a bit (must get that team radio fixed ::) ) and i had to push a bit harder than i wanted with a front left showing 29 wear rate :o
But we brought it home a reasonable 9th and 10th for the Legends Maseratis  8)  (though judging by his qually pace, TT had a top 5 finish in him) :(
Nice clean racing all round and thanks to the backmarkers who behaved perfectly.  :angel:

To the persons i hit coming back on to the track on 3rd/4th lap i think, i apologise i had some major issues concerning cars just appearing in front of me out of thin air.

Rather than babble on i frap'd the said event. :'(

http://v5-gaming.com/magic.avi (http://v5-gaming.com/magic.avi)

Has anyone got any ideas to what couldve caused this. I have max visible cars set to 28 btw.

Cheers.

Yeah some dodgy GTR2 issues there and discos not good. Even at 26 the game just doesn't seem to cope. As usual when it went down to 24 it seemed fine. I hope we don't have to drop to 24 max as that's just poop. If the game can't handle it why do they allow it. Bah. >:(

Anyway..

I have not really driven GT cars in anger fully properly with a bit of practice (ok it was only 30 minutes before but it's more practice than I've done for months) since GTR1 and I'd forgotten how much faster they are and how much more you have to concentrate so hard to keep consistent. Not bad time in qually, 0.5 off my TimeTrial time but to be expected, unfortunately only good enough for 17th or 18th on the grid just in-front of the yank tank of Gizmo.

Warmup lap was a bit odd having to brake coming to the line with the limiter on, but I suspect some of that was down to the apparent car jitters from having 26 cars. First few laps was a game of dodge the stationary cars. I drove right through Colin's Team Shark Junior F550 at one point, thankfully without damage. Bizarre. Anyway after that strange behaviour went away I settled into what I do best, drive consistently for lap after lap in the race, keeping tyres managed and saving the engine. I really am not a qualifying person, I do everything for a good race. Got a couple of people into T2, quite a few places from people's offs and another into one of the corners near the end. About 10 minutes to go and I caught Colin in his F550. Now there was me thinking F575 was going to be a good match for the F550 down the straight, but boy does that 550 fly. I was running quite low rear wing (for me) of 7 to give me some edge for overtaking people down the straight, but all it did in Colin's slipstream was keep me in it. Wow, what a motor 8). He tried to hold me off for a bit but after getting the best tow I'd managed from him I outbroke him into T2 and never looked back to take 7th place, a climb of 10 places.

I really quite enjoyed being back in GT cars and look forward to slipping into the next Sprint race too if there is space.

Well done to the podium, a nice start for the Team Shark group with both Junior and Senior in the top 2. That's going to be an interesting little battle in the Team Shark group as we try and out-do each other this season.

Thanks for the race all. Qualified waaay back on the grid, but a couple of people went off the track and I got a couple of positions.

Had some good fights ,but one of those last minute changes I tend to do really messed things up. Dunno why I thought it was a good idea ,but I opted for brake duct of 2 and my brakes never got above 350 degress  :-\  Oh well,lesson learned for the endurance race  :) Keep duct at 1 .

Thought I had Dave under control and at a reasonable distance,until I messed things up and all of a sudden he was in my mirrors and flew by me  :-\  Managed to keep it under control and not crash into the barrier,but it was close..Damn brakes  :-[

Narrowly avoided running into Shark during the start when he suddenly slowed for a moment as we crossed the line. Not sure what that was about - might've been an element of warp.

Then got caught out by somebody's frozen car (maybe Adam, bad luck mate) and hit Buckie who as a result I couldn't see rejoining from the entry to Hansen and slipped a few places to 22nd, luckily not doing much front end damage.

After that it was mostly picking up places as people disco'd or went off, and gradually easing up onto the back of cej and Chong who were having a great scrap ahead. Dunno whether it was my pressure or his own but cej eventually spun out of Hansen which left me free to try and pressure Chong into a mistake (I was never going to squeek past the 550 under power!) but it never came and I had to settle for a creditable 15th in my first proper championship GT race.

Tyres held up well and fuel was pretty much spot on (finished with about 9 litres) but I've got an awful lot to learn about setting the Corvette up and then getting the most out of it. More worrying was getting spanked by Picnic in the MC12! :o ;D


No problem - there was a stuck car so clearly there was something icky going on. Might wanna rejoin a bit slower next time mind. ;)

Replay (http://ukgtr.simracing.org.uk/Anderstorp%20-%20GT1%20Sprint%20070327.zip) and Provisional Results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=301)

If you check the avi i uploaded you can see that to me the track looked clear. The oncoming cars magically appeared out of thin air. Otherwise i wouldve waited until the traffic had passed.

No problem,you flew over my car i had a scuffmark on my front window,impressive in replay too ;D

Jan

Oh and my bad start was coz i pressed the wrong button on my steering wheel for speed limiter LOL.

After a couple of seasons staying clear of GTs this was my first race in anger for some while. Picked the MC12 as it looks great especially with Shark's paint job. Trouble was I a bit inconsistent. I must appolgies to both Beholder and Mo for cock ups, sorry chaps.

There are some seriously nice looking cars out there and some skillful drivers. I had no problems with cars warping badly or disappearing, just everything happening too quickly  :o

May I suggest everyone checks again that they have ISDN selected for the connection speed within the game. The server used to cope well with 2 grids of 26 cars except when doing transision changes between sessions and saving replays, now it seemingly can't cope with a single server of 26 cars  :-\ The only real change on the server is the car pack but I can't see how this makes a big difference as the server does not display any gfx.

Where abouts in the country are you?  I'm in Banbury, and there's nothing mentioned on the BT site.  Not that that doesn't mean they've gone and buggered things up.....

I was focusing on cathing up with Chong thinking you were well behind me. All of a sudden you were way to close for my liking and struggling with my brakes frustration set in, got on the throttle way to early and lost it  :-[  Was some good racing though  8)

Yeah and and strange thing is I was running an 8 wing and 2 on splitter. The 550 is a power house and I dont think I have it set-up right the twisties, especially for turn-in. Simon, my exit from T1 was poor and for a second I thought you wouldn't pass but I heard you get on the brakes just after me so the corner was going to be yours. Good stuff!

Colin 8)

Well I was pleased to get 3rd in quali, but was a bit ticked off with the amount of leaving and rejoining going on. :(
Not saying I could have gone faster but it was a little distracting.

I seemed to loose a second of pace with the server full, I had been pracing on it over the last two days with up to 12 drivers on, but once qual started I took a big hit in FPS, damn P4 chip.  :P

Race wise it was a good blast. Ruskus and Zacari were faster than me so I tried to settle for a quick pace to keep third, but Leuven wasn't having any of that. :)

We had a good battle, he got ahead and I was clawing back time slowly when he had a near off, so I managed to slip past. I got a tyre warning on the last lap after a patchy race of over driving.

Pleased to finish a race at SROU and Dave I'll PM you about name change m8. :)

I'm on night shift tonight and using my mobile phone for this.  i have not had a chance to view replay yet. I had a number of instances tonight of cars standing still. Only once in race but a few during other sessions. I did not have the same problems as sunday though. The game was back running smoothly. It seems strange that these problems were not there for me before. Sorry it's all one paragraph as i cant work out how to get a new line on this phone

That was as good as I could've hoped for!  Before tonight my best time was in the high 25's, took over a second off my PB in quali.  Jeff was just too good, consistently around half a second a lap faster.  Started in 2nd.

Race start was fine though I was a little slow dropping the hammer.  After a few close laps with no25 in 3rd, I managed to get into a rhythm and slowly pulled into a lonely 2nd which I held until the flag.  Great to have a team shark/TS junior 1-2 ;D though hopefully at Silverstone I can give Jeff more of a race :)

Shame about the server issues though :(

Don't think that's true unfortunately. We did have stationary cars etc even on 26 in the GT Sprint last season as I remember Jeff's car freezing a few times at Zhuhai specifically and I know it happened elsewhere too.

I wonder if some research can find us anything useful on RSC that we don't already know to see if there are settings on the datarate and net settings that would help us here on the server side too.

Despite the fact that some disconnected and weren't able to race, I was pleased with my race.
Second to last on the grid, I knew that my Viper wasn't that competitive here, and it's not everything on the car's fault.. it's my hüber skillz that have to come back from a long time ago when I was young  :laugh:

I had a great time with Anthony fighting for the last place.. I was pleased that I didn't do any errors until the leaders came back on me.. Then I made some little n00b errors, looking more into my rear view mirrors than my line.. I think I did good not to move into the way of the faster cars.. but made some slight mistakes trying to make some space.. I still need to train for that.

And after that I'll be in search of some speed.. if some of you have some spare for me  :-*

I think I lapped both Anthony and Fred, both were very accomodating. I was rather hoping to box Chong in behind Ant but couldn't quite make that pay.  >:D :angel:

if anyone want me to block someone for next race shout me a pm (that was working very well back in my N2003 days  ;D ;D  :angel: :laugh:  :angel:)

BTW, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Paul968's new, more generous Sprint scoring system... ;)

Yes, I noticed but just never responded in any fashion  :P

I now have a generous 18 points! ;D

Right

Had a semisuccessful quali, second off my pace, but no matter.

Warm up lap was a bit weird (we should go back to "engage pit-lane limiter" two turns before S/F straight) since lots of us had to brake with pit-limiter on (invitation for broken plastic)...

Race started well, gained 5 places and was wondering what the hell is going on at the back straight (blue flag - move over message, 5 laps or so in a row  ??? Funny enough, but it only happened if one of Team Shark MC12 came relatively close out of T1, otherwise no. I went "Que?" like Manuel from Faulty towers  ;D).
Lost control while comming onto penultimate left corner (before the bridge) with two (2) stationary cars, white/green one and a... blue one, I think  ;D They've appeared just as I was comming to my braking point so you can imagine how that went. Happened 3-4 laps in a row, then the bug changed its form into "I'll let you see those cars until you come up close just to make them go away again". Very weird. :-\ Also, I'm pretty sure that wasn't the case for all of us since at least two cars in my mirrors stayed on their racing line (racing line=location of those stationary cars  ;D ) while I was trying to avoid stuff that wasn't there. Or was it?  ::)

While exiting the same corner (comming into last righthander) I was, brainfart I guess, checking mirrors to see if those bug-cars are still there and missed the entry. Spin-o-rama  ;D and, of course, it all went downhill from then on. Pitty, we were racing like crazed maniacs, but very gentlemen like. Cool stuff, thx. :)

Caught up a black lambo (thought he was one of the front runners that messed up a corner since he just recovered from a major offtrack excursion), came in behind him, we've raced for 3-4 corners, then he moved offline to let me by. Since I was in "must draft to get him" mode, i went offline to and smashed right into him due to his lift off. Turns out he was a back marker.  ::) My fault, admins, check for penalties, please (on my behalf, not his).

Lost a good part of front end bodywork and was sitting duck till the end.

Still, fun stuff, can't wait for endurance race.  8)

P.S. Another info that might help resolve server problems. Myself and (I suspect) many other drivers were kicked out of practice server due to "possible cheat" thingie. After rejoining, all was well (seen plenty of drivers with same problem yesterday afternoon/evening).

P.S. P.S. It seems like we've lost lots of cars in a single lap (didn't check lapchart, just a feeling, I know at a certain point of the race there were "xy left the game" messages one after another) due to discos or something like that. IMHO it was (online flying sim hosting experience talking now) either due to their software autoupdates or a problem with ISP. Perhaps all those that got disco should post their ISP names (if they're all using same ISP, then it's clear what happened).

Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Anderstorp GT1 27-03-2007/index.html)

Nice One Ruskus - much better than the older stuff.

Thanks, credits go to the maker Alexzz (http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=271013). I use this one now for a while, but there are some handy new feature, like a direct link to the replay in the lapchart (Summary bottom left) and also the logs.