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Practice 1:	20:00	(15 mins)	full time drivers only
Practice 2:	20:15	(10 mins)	reserves may join too
Qual 1:	20:25	(5 mins)	Masters may join too
Qual 2:	20:30	(25 mins)
Race:	20:55	(80 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT1, G2, GT2, GTC or GT3 from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.3 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) (G2 and GT3 cars will not score points).
Weather: changeable, based on real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: Anderstorp GP
Race Start Time 14:00
Pit Stops: All drivers must make a minimum of one pit stop. This must involve entering the pit lane at the speed limit, and coming to a complete standstill in the designated pit box. Tyres do not have to be changed and no fuel has to be added. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Endurance Clubmen
Password: available from the event page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=350) (see the Show Password link under the announcement text)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=51).
(2b) Reserves (anyone without a full time spot) should not join until the stated session, regardless of the time.
(2c) Drivers with a full time spot in the Endurance Masters should only take G2 or GT3 cars. Other reserves may take any permitted car.
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.

Is this a joke  ;)?

Super start to the season, my favourite track! 8)

I'm not sure how realistic it is but I hope us Vertigo drivers can give the rest of the G2/GTC drivers a decent race while we battle it out among ourselves.

I'm down to mid 1:31's in qualifying trim with the new ballast pack if anyone wants a benchmark.

Horrible start to the season - hate this track ......  :P

Hated it in the GT's in any case, haven't managed a lap in the Vertigo yet, but I think it could be quite fun.  It should give us a good idea how us Vertigo drivers will fare over the course of the season.

Clearly a man of good taste pops, love Anders and its great in the vertigo. Might get hairy in a mixed class race though. Team KC begin their extensive testing tonight but that 1.31 is an impressive time to aim for  :).

Can I give a big thanks to Dave for squeezing the vertigo drivers in. Sure we will reap the rewards of your efforts, S5 is shaping up very nicely.

Is there a chance others can join in a non-point-scoring car (G2 Porka and G3 cars) to fill up the grid? Only after all Full Timers and reserves are there.

Well, as i am not in any leagues, i will miss it :-[ :o

Cheers

First post updated with details and announcement sent to all full time drivers.

Dave, the link at the end of "(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page." links to S4 Endurance.

Well spotted, half marks (you missed the event page with the password being wrong too ;) :angel:).

If I do it all for you then you'll never learn...  ;) :P

Forgot about the short Q1 as well for Masters so that non-Master reserves have a chance to join first. Now updated.

Anything else?





Are you sure????



 :P :P :P

Looks like we are going to be in for some great racing.
Now if only I can pull off another upset here like I did with Pops back in season 2 lol.  :-*

That's my third senior moment in the last two weeks as well... :o

Team Oldie beckons on the horizon, Dave

TC

3 in two weeks, wait till you end up like me with 3 in a day  ::)

That's exactly what I said to the Team Shark boys...

Perhaps we need a Team Shark Senior to sit oppose TSJ...

start worrying when you'll react like "mistakes? what mistakes? and while we're at it, who are you?"

Anobody tried the GT2 Porka here yet? I can't get the gearing long enough. I'm always on full revs for many seconds, and that will prevent the car from finishing :-\.

Porka GT2 has final drive options (as one of the few cars in the game), unfortunately you cant set that in garage so need to edit the svm in notepad.
Try change FinalDriveSetting to 3 should give longest possible gearing (2 is default, can also make it shorter by editing it to 0 or 1).
Btw didnt you race it at Monza, how the hell did you get it around there then?  :D

Does that cause missmatches?  :)

TT

Thanks! I used somebody else's setup. Which felt awefull, but atleast the gears were okay  ;D.

No; setups aren't checked over the online connection, although IIRC the game won't let you edit any old cobblers into the .SVM files; the values are checked against the physics files which are checked online. The final drive ratio was just an omission from the setup screens.

GPL was the same - there were some settings you could edit outside of the ranges allowed in-game but the method of doing so was well known (there was even a tool to do it) so it was never regarded as cheating.

Does anyone with experience of the Lambo in endurance events know at what rev setting you can run the engine reasonably reliably? Google says 7100 but it'll probably be faster to reverse down the straights at that setting.

I never lowered it more than by -100. I usually just kept it at max, and let it survive by being gentle near the end.
It's always good to have those revs with you when you need them, so you can choose when to keep the revs low.

I've used the Lambo for UKGTR enduro and at Simracing.nl at 90 minute races, and I haven't blown a Lambo engine IIRC. Even with manual clutch.

So has anyone checked where the pit lane speed limit ends at Anders in GTR2? IIRC someone worked out last time (in GTR1) that you could accelerate just after the pit garages end, not at the lights by the runway.

Good thinking, the limiter automatically goes off near the tyres (left) by the light. Maybe a good idea to force people to let it go off automatically and not try earlier if that is possible. Maybe with a big penalty if they do try to break that. Just my 2 cents :)

Pit lane exit is almost always at the lights on all tracks, you should not be accelerating before then.

Did we have this issue in GTR1 or GTR2 ?  :)

TT

I've checked it. The 'bug' in GTR where you could go early has been fixed, if you accelerate before the lights just before you rejoin the track you'll get a stop & go.

Not in GTR1 it wasn't (at Anders). Personally I'd rather everyone knew what the situation was, but since it's impossible to police we probably have to rely on where the game enforces the limit.

Good  :)

thx TT

[Edit] Sorry, thx Pops, not TT.

sorry guys i cant race. i just scold my hand and i cant do anything right now. really sorry this is noway to honor the fulltime spot you gave me.
i even have to get my brother to type this message!
really sorry!

Good to know, ta. I'll drive it with a helium filled foot then!

Picnic has just pointed out that I missed GTC from the list of permitted classes. It should obviously be included.

my connectio have a timeout, butnow i try to join and say game full teh server only have 25/26 players

Which is not quite as annoying as connection lost after 3 laps!! >:( >:(

Big waste of practice which I had hoped to see through into the race but not to be, feels a bit like my last full season where things kept happening out of my control.

Oh well, enjoy the race and see you at the next one. :-\

I hope I didn't cause any havoc :-[.

We ordered calling via internet, which should start the 5th of april, but the provider just had to test things tonight :-\. So I decided to jump out and not cause a mess (hope I was in time).

I am very sorry for anyone who's spot I've taken and left it open again so soon :-X

 ???

What happened there??
Dave, went into pits after about 45 mins, loaded fuel, changed tyres but was never given the go ahead to leave!?
Sat there, pushing keys but no luck!?
Eventually hit escape as someone else was queuing behind!?

Did I go to the wrong garage or something!?

Confused!?

Martin

 :(

Wasn't  nice race for me and i didn't expected that I finished like that.Many racers wasn't race fair play.(see video). :(

Lost connection in practice and then couldn't rejoin as the server was full. Finally got back in and skipped end of qualy. Good racing throughout  the race with those at the back and in the end I finished 19th (I lost connection a few seconds after the race finished - I hope the finish registered on the server). I was catching 18th quickly at the end - I went too long on old tyres and only pitted on lap 39 :-\. In hindsite I should have pitted half way through to get even tyre wear and performance.

Till next time. :)

Find the incidents on the server Replay Backo and submit reports to the moderator. Sorry to hear your race didn't go as planned.

Brilliant Race, I really enjoyed the race. For once I was right on the pace, if I hadnt made a newbie mistake in the PITS and been "butt-raped" by a ferrari, whilst slowing down to let it past  :P, I could have been battling with Ginsters. BUT unfortunately I found myself a lap down. :laugh:

None The less, the learning curve continues, and Im slowly but surely moving up the grid.

Well done to the winners of both classes. Time to have a shower as I stink  ;D

Ant

Really enjoyed that- it is a nice change to be a GT driver in Endurance with the traffic keeping things interesting when your attention might flag mid race otherwise. My first time not on the recieving end in Endurance so I hope I didn't give anyone problems passing. I did find qualifying "interesting" when trying to work out whether NGT cars were on their out-lap and I could pass or actually hotlapping and I should drop back.

I think I was in 6th or 7th when I pitted and should have stayed there give or take a place but I had a comedy spin at the last corner as the car weight swings from right to left and lost the bonnet which I've never seen before!? And punctured a tire. Limped round for a lap and then pitted for ages with the pit crew actually saying at one point "there is something wrong with the engine- you might want to sit tight for a while", again, a new one on me  ;D Glad you were unscathed Paul.

Had a great last 10 minutes with Dirh (I think) - most enjoyable few laps I've had for ages- bet you were glad when I got past if only so that I stopped bloomin' bothering you!

Congratulations to GT1 podium ;)
Didnt do any lap at qual 1, qual 2 was under wet track, so i managed
qual in 21th. As i did 6-7 laps at dry tarmac practice, i used that setup
for race, wich worked quite well.
hard tires for 50 mnts first race session and soft tires for last 30 mnts,
air and track temps should help me on this strategy, as they did. ;D
I had lots of fairplay fights with Popabawa, Munkez , SBGinsters, and more 1 or 2 fair guys
(sorry, dont remember the names) thanks all for the excelent driving ;)
well done to the others also :)

Cheers

Man I'm angry with myself. Sold that one.

My car was nowhere near as quick as practice sessions or as it has been every other day mid to low 1.25.. I did notice after the race the temperature was lower than practice sever and my tyres were not at correct temperature's, so must be that.

Had a few battles throughout the race and some a bit dirty at times, a guess racing so close it's going to happen sometimes.

Lost a little time in the pits getting damage repaired after a rear shunt and was amazed to come back out in first.

I had plenty to spare so just saving the car as felt good after repair. Gap came down to 5-6sec with 8Min's or so to go and I was maintaining it. Stupidly lining up a move on back marker between last two bends I put wheel on grass and lost it, how stupid of me!!!

That was the viper right on my tail and that thing had way too much pace and nailed me on the straight.

Thought I had a chance to nick it back when Mark was help up by back maker. Accelerated too early out of bend and ended up on grass and lost another place.

Other than that it was very fast and furious, great fun

What a plum!!!
Fueled myself short by 5 or so laps!! cant get the hang of this pit board? when it comes up and lists fuel with tyres and so on, what are the Numbers next to it?

Congrats to podium and thanks to the GT1 cars for not barging their way through on such a twisty circuit  :-*

Munk

definately not my race  :-[ Qualified a bit down the grid as usual, lost a couple of places in the beginning. Usually I gain again by being stable,but not today :-\

Really had problems finding my pace, probably because I a Corvette stuck to my bumper for the most part of the 1st stint  ;D  Dave managed to pass me in the pitstops though,which was fair enough as I was way to slow to keep him behind me anyway.

Apologies to Popobawa for pushing you, I was to focused on cathing the GT car in front of me and made a hazardous overtaking  ::)

Finished off my race with a spin and on the last lap I ran out of fuel  ::)

Oh well,back to the drawing board  ;)

Naff first GT1 outing for me in endurance.

Qualied well in 5th despite the damp 2nd sesh meaning i couldnt get near my PB.

Race start wasnt so great, think i got a tap out of T2 that sent me spinning off a long way on the grass, dropping me from 4th to 13th :'(
Fought my way back up the grid by a few places but then had no fewer than 3 seperate off's on my own whilst looking at my bloody GTRPD on the 2nd monitor, what a stupid clown :1eye: :cursing:  In all they cost me something like 45 seconds so had no hope of ever catching the fast moving front pack. Only myself to blame and brought the car home a rubbish 9th place, 20 odd seconds behind 8th despite a stronger showing in the second half of the race.
Need to find more pace here as people were leaving me for dead on the runway straight. :(

Congrats to Mark Mc for his great win, you were flying in that viper ! :thumbup1: and thanks to the GT2/GTC guys for driving well. :thumbup2:

I believe it is   litres/laps

i had a fun race, was driving om 9th place, when suddenly a Porker GT2 appeared froozen in a corner, couldn't go around anymore, so lost my 9th place, after that somebody hit me in the rear on the straight at start/finish, so i went into the wall.

Whooo! A GTC win! First blood to the Legends in the 1st round of Grand Prix de Vertigo :)

I was well chuffed to get GT2/GTC pole but I was incredibly lucky to put in a really good lap in Q1 when the downpour before Q2 slowed everyone down.

The race started well when I manged to create a small gap to the rest of the pack but eventually PRibiero and Munkez ran me down before my dastardly quick pit-stop put me back in the lead. Unfortunately, some contact with an overtaking GT put me off the track and my nice cushion to PRibiero evaporated and there wasn't anything I could do to avoid getting eaten up on the straight. Good job by Pribiero though with a quick and consistent drive to take GT2.

I have to say there was faily 'optimistic' overtaking on a few occasions with the GT's but they were the exception :)

My race went pretty well, the change in conditions between the qualifying periods caught me out - I was about a second off my PB.  Quiet few laps, avoiding what trouble did occur.  Sat behind Pops in the tasty Legends Vertigo, and it remained that way until PRibeiro and Munkez got close enough to gt by on the straight.  After that the gap was steady, just waiting for the pit-stop for a new lease of life.

Came into the pits after getting a worn tyre message .... only to find Martin in my pit-slot.  Gutted.  Apologies for the little nudges Martin - I was trying every which way to get the stop started.

After finally pitting I was way behind Pops, as I was only a few seconds down before the pit.  Caught up with Don in the TVR, only managing to get by at Karusell after a mistake by Don.  After that I put the hammer down to try and make some sort of dent in the lead whoever it was in front of me had......put some fast laps in but still the gap only got down to 14.5secs I think.  After a few little mistakes to run wide onto the gravel and a spin, any hope of catching up was gone.  To be fair, I was only pushing so hard as I was really annoyed after the pit, had things gone to plan I would have played it a bit safer in a bid to catch Pops.

Still, a Legends 1 & 3 in the GTC for a solid start, and an added bonus in it being a 2 & 4 in the GT2 class.  We'd best make the most of it as I think we're going to get murdered by just about every other car at Silverstone.....

Nice solid performance, from me and my computer/internet connection, shame that the same old GTR2 bugs fecked it up for me and cost me a place.

I'll give you the bad news first,

1st quali hit a spinner, but hea ho no panic always q2 I thought. Buggger. The rain really put a spanner in the works. Not sure this a great innovation, as it almost turns quali into a lottery. Feel it would be fairer to make quali's equal length, or same weather
 
Are you saying that you decided to join tonight to test your connection? Not to chuffed if thats the case, cause I whacked your ghost car and lost any chance of catching pops. If it was unforeseen then no worries.

Plenty more good new though,
standards were excellent from everyone, especially the gt boys. Made it a real blast racing.

Sorry don't know everyones names yet but enjoyed a few battles with faces new to me that were great fun. A few bumps and bruise given/received just added to the fun :).

I was enjoying so much I even let Paul 956 through to make his day. I did ok boss? ;)

First blood to pops and leg-ends. But its a marathon not a sprint :P

*cough*  ::)

I had the same, for what it's worth. Practising beforehand I'd spent ages balancing the pressure and camber and got the fronts, for example, at a nice regular 78/82/85 ish temperature. In the sessions prior to the wet one the front were down in the 69-74 range. I think the time of day was teh same so that's a bit odd. Same for everyone though I guess.

Great Race Ginsters, Next time I hope to find myself on the same lap as you  :P

If people were wise enough to notice the drop in temperature, I'm sure it was always 30 on practice server and 20 tonight, I'm sure they would have acted accordingly. I had too much understeer tonight

I think I can be quite happy with my 4th place (and only 7 secs behind the winner[grats Mark]). This was my 2nd GTR2 racing ever (first was here a while ago with the Gillet Vertigo at Spa) and my first race with the Lambo and my longest race ever. ;D Maybe I was a bit too conservative (did not want to make a displeasing first appearance on my first league night here)and a bit unlucky at the end with passing backmarkers so that I lost 2 places but that's racing. ;) Grats to podium and thanks all for good racing! :D

Replay (http://ukgtr.simracing.org.uk/Anderstorp%20-%20Endurance%20Clubmans%20070401.zip) and Provisional Results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=350)

Hopefully I got all the cars types identified correctly, however I couldn't identify the forum ID for Mark McClean our race winner! Can you let us know please Mark ;)

What a frustrating end to the race. After the sprint on Tuesday I knew 83ltr was enough for 40 mins but tonight my first session I was using no where near that. Pitted with 41 mins to go having only used 60 ltrs. Didn't think to check and with 3 mins to go the pit crew came on to tell me to pit for fuel! WTF. Used 30% more fuel per lap in the 2nd half of the race  :-\

Had to pit at the start of the last lap with 2ltr in the tank, not enough for another lap in the MC12.

Also never bothered to attempt to qualify in Q1, know better now!

I hope the NGT/GTC gang found my driving acceptable, it's definitely an art to pass the slower cars. Several times I got caught at the long right hander at the end of the lap and found it cost me over a second to the car in front. Much easier being in the slower class  :P

No, we ordered it and it should have started the 5th of april. But for some reason the provider did some tests to see if we all had it hooked up yet :-\. Great thing if they don't warn you, or else I wouldn't have joined.

After a stupid mistake when I ran off I was out of position and struggling to actually get past people without mistakes. I decided to switch pit strategy and go early to get past you which worked out pretty well. 8)


I was very lucky both in setting a reasonable time in Q1 - was on for a better one at the end of Q2 but was unlucky enough to lose it over the curbs in front and it was session over. :(

Also got lucky with the fuel - meant to fill to about 90 in my stop but filled to 100 in the end - would've been sailing close to the wind had the race gone for one more lap on 90, as it was finished with about 19 left but consumption was higher than I expected.


I believe that's 'stnasky' - I think I will have to do some fiddling of the results because some Masters joined in scoring cars (PRibeiro for example). I also noticed that at least two reserves joined before the end of practice 1. >:(

Dave, I just checked the replay and it shows me vanish just before the last corner before the finish line. I was in 19th at that point with over 30 secs on 20th. I finished the race and got the pit message on my PC and then lost connection on the turn after the finish line !?!!. Server results also say 49 laps. Hope I can get 19th awarded otherwise it is really frustrating to be classed as DNF.

I cant believe GTR is that flaky with the connections.

Hi well done all what was it with the damp praccy then dry race. Luckily I had some sort of slick on but a wet set up.that caught me out well and truly. I do not like the track anyway but at least I seem to have more control with my new equipment.cheers gerald

I didn't really have the kind of race I was hoping for.
Couldn't get a decent lap in the damp Quali conditions and started near the back.
Managed to hold on at the end of the tail till the GT's cars came round and then found myself being knocked off the track. Tight circuit and I know it's not easy to pass, but I was bumped off on 3 separate occasions! I Just hope things settle down in the next race.
Most of the GT's were understanding and patient and I can understand it's a difficult circuit to pass on.

Sorry to Pribero and PW must have scared you on the start of the last lap, I thought the race had finished (looking at the timer) and threw it off the track round turn 1!
and also sorry to Ruf, contact into the last turn, I was unsighted and thought you had already powered through.
Grats to the early championship leaders.

That's a shame; sorry, as a matter of policy we always take the result as it appears on the server. You've been awarded 21st instead of 19th which is 2 points different but you still get 2 points and a classified finish.

For once I had a properly stable connection, and I must say "thank you" to all the slower class cars who were all very easy to pass (I think I had just one confusing moment coming out of turn 1 when I tried to pass to the left and the lapped car wanted to move left to let me by) even when I had to do so under braking whilst trying in vain to put some pressure on Picnic ahead.

Did everyone use the ISDN connection setting when joining?

I hope it rains for the Masters event next week... I'd like to see my one and only lap record last longer than a week! :P

I didn't realise that PRibiero was in a scoring car but officially in the Masters, will that mean his result doesn't count?

Sadly I think not. Which remarkably means that a Vertigo won in GT2/GTC!

It was a Vertigo 1-2-3! 8)

Shame that PR, a pleasure to race you last night and pity we wont see you again :) . Real fun bit was racing bimmers and 360's last night, can't wait to do it again.

Question: Why ISDN and not cable/DSL?

Yes, I have been using ISDN before anyone asks. :P

That way it stresses the server less, and it will cause less problems (lag etc) IIRC.

Ok thanks Jeff.

Right.

Had a funny race yesterday night, enjoyed it thoroughly, like always. :)

As most of us I've managed to ignore Q1 and had to go berserk in wet (damp) session. Semi successfully, ended up in P6, but no matter, was planning for 100L medium medium first stint with projected 35 laps and a short 19 lap 2nd stint sprint (which would also include 35+ second pitstop) so I wasn't really bothered by 5 drivers in front of me, math is math and math stated I'll come out of the pits in P1.

It worked... almost. ::) ;D  Had to wait for aero damage to be fixed, lost 15 secs or so since pit lasted 51.6 instead of 35 or so seconds and voila, came out in 3rd/4th, P2,P3 and P4 were all crowded in few secs. Some cool racing followed, we swapped places like junk bonds, all of us on tyres that were not up to working temperature and it showed, our collective thoughts must have been "I hate understeer" (resistance if futile TM). ;D

If only I knew that the blue viper which came out of pits is the future leader, insertcursewordhere. That was some 5-6 laps prior to my pits, insertanotherone and I let Mark by being overly polite. Again :D. Lost the race for mere second in the end. Live and learn, I ain't giving u guys squat anymore, insertthirduglyword. ;D

Pitty. Aero damage courtesy of two backmarkers going offline under power and lifting off just as I was trying to pass them. Same old story all over again, but hey, that's racing. (but still... don't. stay on line, be predictable, felt sorry for few of the backmarkers going OFF TRACK to let us by. Just stay put and we'll do the rest, promise. ;) ).

BTW, I wonder what a vertigo driver thought when Mark (I think) and myself blasted by on the straight, vertigo being the one in the middle, awesome replay, I'm sure (hint for video directors out there). ;) Very similar to that Mika-Schumi thingy at Spa few years back. Cool stuff.  8)

Can't wait for mighty Silverstone. :fencing:

edit: Jonzo, sorry for the bump before race start (smashed into you while being on pit-limiter). Admins, we NEED to get on pit limiter sooner, thought we're suppose to engage it 2 (two) corners before start/finish straight. Tends not to happen that way, this yo-yo effect is way to dangerous...

Well I had a bit of a nightmare GT debut.

Qualifying went ok as I got a decent lap in the first session to put me second.

At the start of the race Brian, Backo and myself were all very close on pace and I had a couple of half hearted attempts when Brian made mistakes before Backo breezed past down the straight in the Fezza.

A few laps latter I managed to tap Backo round at the final turn, i did not think I was that close but after I waited I was in seventh and could not pass Jure in front. Managed to leave my paint on the back of his car as well, not sure what happened but I think there was a stationary car on the inside of turn 6 and as we were lapping some GT2/GTC cars everyone went everywhere and I just tapped him thankfully he kept it all together.

Finally manage to start clearing cars as peoples tyres got a bit older and worked my way all the way back up to third on Brian's tail before the stops.

I had enough fuel for two more laps so decided that if Brian pitted I would not and if he didn't I would. He went in so I put in a quick in lap and into the pits I went. I had long fuelled so was confident I could get out ahead. Into my pit stool no pit board nothing they just stood there. Tried loads of things and they would just not do anything. Finally they started after I had tried reversing and going back in for the nth time. Then during the stop they would start filling and then say turn the engine off stop for a few secs and then start again then stop again. No idea what was going on but all in all it lost me a lap.

After that I just pushed and drove round on my own really. Managed to get back up to 6th with CJ and Picnics problems but a bit gutted I had the pace for a podium here at least on what should really be a lambo track.

Still on to Silverstone and try to make a better job for it. Sorry to both the racing 24/7 cars for leaving my paint on there great looking cars especially Backo in the early stages. Thanks to all the GTC/GT2 cars for holding there line and making passing easy all in all it was good fun, and I for one enjoyed the wet Q2 great addition to the immersion factor

Ditto, can't see my race lap record lasting long!

Think that was me .... but then there were so many GT's belting past on the straight it's all blended into one.

Will have a look at the replay this evening, as there were certainly a few "highlight reel" moments in that race.

I remember that - I think I mentioned on TeamSpeak too I was so surprised. :D


If they put fuel and tyres on you must've been in the right garage. TBH I've no idea! Did you turn the ignition back on and refire the engine or have you not got that under your control?

ps. I can't solve every problem or mystery personally. :P

Come on Dave, you've always managed in the past  ;D

I to had the pit crew telling me to kill the engine, so I had to turn ignition, on and off again before they would refuel me  :-\

As for the ISDN thing I think it's more complex than simply making life easier for the server. All members using the same lowest common denominator seems to provide a smoother, more reliable connection all round.

The server results file was a mess last night, at least 2 drivers were in the results file at least 5 times with a couple more having duplicates.

In the mods group we agreed the weather file used would be included in the replay/results zip. Guess what I forgot last night. The replay has now been updated now to include the weather file but in case you don't want to downlaod the whole thing again the file can be found here (http://ukgtr.simracing.org.uk/weather.txt)

I won't join any Clubmen endurance race anymore untill the amount of drivers get lower than the max, so I don't use somebody else's spot who deserves it more.

Whomever it was, I'm pretty sure he exhaled to make himself thinner while we were going by. ;)  ;D

Had an enjoyable race as the only G3 entrant as I was right in the middle of the GTC battle. Got caught out by the qually thing (hadn't twigged that Q1 would count) but was fairly happy with my starting position. I lost a place on my cold hard tyres on the first full lap, but being on full fuel I was playing the long game so no great problem. Piited a bit late and then realised that I'd forgotten to sort out the fuelling strategy, so the daft pit crew gave me another 20 laps of unneeded fuel for good measure. After the stops I was in 16th, with teamie Ginsters some way up the road but falling back as a result of not changing tyres at the stop. I caught him with about 10 mins to go, thought briefly about sitting behind and then decided to pass anyway since it wouldn't cost him points. A comedy moment with Gerald and a GT in the carousel made things interesting but I kept the place and finished 14th.

Like others I had the odd GT driver being a bit too ambitious when lapping. Late dives down the inside really invite contact (which happened in one case), but most were polite though and waited for the straights.  

I came to wait in the lobby and in Q1 it was 24/26. I figured it might be better to let a late reserve join instead of me. Just wait two more races, Rusky, you know the drill.  ;D
I think it's a right thing to do to wait a few races for numbers to drop before Masters start to join in regularly. After all, it is Clubmen race, Masters are guests only. 

TT

Ditto!! Why not!!! ???  :D

I was prompted to switch off the ignition etc which I did, fuel added, tyres changed and then nothing!?
I'd like to get to the borttom of it!? Very frustrating to race for 45mins and then nothing!
Would appreciate your help !

M.

I agree. I did look at joining but when I saw nearly full server I thought it best to not join in case of discos for full-time or even part time Clubmen so I didn't take their spot.

Did you do any pitstop practice before hand? I find things run so much smoother when my brain is programmed with the right script.

Sorry if this is a completely obvious question but they weren't repairing any damage to the care were they? By default, all damage will be repaired unless you explicitly tell them not to do it. Some of it can take a while too.

Having watched the server stay static at 24 for about 10 minutes before the change to Q1, I was reasonably happy that there were free spots. Having said that, if I had known of a full timer who was locked out then I'd have been happy to drop out. Is there any way that we can do a check on the forum at the start of Q2 to see if this has happened? If so then an announcement could be made on the server. Just an idea. Either way, if the masters are are happy to all not join for now then I'm OK with this too.

Could we do that through a UKGTR chat section in the GTR2 lobby?

That was a very eventful race,  The damp track for Q2 was different, liked that.  Had nice quali battle with Mark Jonzo and Jure  :).

Opening laps and Jure has a bit of a slide exiting the last turn, this lets me get a run into T1.  Managed to go from 6th to 4th after Jonzo and one of those Nice blue and white lambos give each other a touch up.  Then chasing Arron and Backo they give each other a touch up and im handed 2nd :P.

Few laps later im caught up behind Anthony Humphreys, i was waiting for the next straight before i pass him as i made a failed attempt to go around the outside of T5, then outta nowhere Backo comes up flashing his lights at a rate of knots !! ;D and passes me into T6, Nice move there m8, hope i gave you plenty of room.  Shortly after that, Backo is closing up on Brian, they have a bit of an arm wrestle, then Backo goes flying off track narrowly missing Pops in the Vertigo :o.

Brain m8 im so sorry about the nudge i gave you at T2, was slipstreaming you up  runway and didnt take into consideration the extra speed i had going into the braking area.  That probably seemed pretty aggresive in your eyes but i didnt mean to do it, just couldnt pull it up on time.  luckily you held it and i had an off as my pittance :angel:.

I passed Brian on the runway in a move similar to the one with Jure,  Don (TVR) was in the middle and Brian on the inside, me on the outside and just got my nose infront for the braking at T2 :). Brain then made an error which allowed me to open up a gap quickly.

Pitstop time, entered the pits to find a yellow Saleen in my pitbox :o.  Had to wait for a few seconds until he had finished.  If i had check the pre race posts i would have learned the correct place to turn off the pitlimiter (the lights) but i thought it was the same place as GTR1 (end of the pit garages) so i earned a Stop n go for my ignorance :-\.  Served my Stop n go and dropped back to 3rd behind Dirk and Brian.  At this stage i was pushing hard and want to Apologise to Don for bumping you onto the grass, was trying to stay as close as possible and wait for the straight but just got too close and gave you a tap !!.

Managed then to catch and pass Dirk after he ran a bit wide at the exit of T6.  Could not see Brian so didnt think i could catch him but i had about 10 minutes to work on it.  Surprisingly Brian made a mistake at the last turn and i closed right up, and then got him on the runway.

Loved it last night, sorry about the page long essay but as i said eventful :D

@Picnic -- i know ive had 4 name changes since ive joined UKGTR, Stnasky, Mark@GP, Mark Mc and now my full name, must be confusing to say the least, but recently ive reinstalled Xp and havent gotten round to creating a new profile with Mark Mc as my ID.  Is the name i used last night ok to keep or would you like me to use my older ID ??

I forget names, I forget faces, sorry about that  :-[ If Dave's not already tweaked the system I will sort it now.


Damn, didn't work. Help Dave.........  ;)

A good question but no, I'm normally very good at pit stops!! I turned the repair option off and hit enter!?

Puzzled!

M.

Tell a lie - I did it with rufbtr either side of Anthony.

Results now updated with Mark McC's ID.

I'm considering whether to put PRibeiro's result into G2 for this race rather than exclude him.

I know you will do the right thing Dave :yes:

I am sorry, but i´ve been with less spare time and i didnt read
the entry rules properly.

I have now done Evil Things^TM in the database to make your entry into G2. Please don't make a habit of it. :P

 :whistling:

I forgot to say this had fuel for 42 mins in first half so pitted early as it seemed to last forever then despite haveing enough for extra 2 laps it ran out just before finish ?.Never mind it kept me off the streets for a couple of hours.cheers gerald

Picnic and I were discussing this over TeamSpeak in the closing stages and despite the drop in ambient temperatures it's hard to know why consumption went up so much in the second half of the race. Did everyone get this or just some of us? I don't think mine was as bad as some but then again I had the rev limit turned down a fair bit for reliability.

No complaints from me.These things happen at times. The only time it gets to me is if it's really aggressive or with intent. Just a genuine mistake.

I'm still angry about my performance. I was feeling relaxed late on in the lead and went into autopilot mode and made that stupid mistake.

Still needing to get the set up business solved. The drop in temperature over test sessions meant my tyres were not reaching correct temps and translated to the best part of a second a lap.

It seems there was lots of door banging throughout and many guilty parties. I find it hard to call what backmarkers are going to do as there is no consistency. Sometimes they move off racing line, sometimes they don't and although you approach with relative caution at times you can still get caught out.

I must say I don't like the massive speed difference between some of the cars.

I can never seem to get consistency with fuel usage. Again last night I found myself in same situation. Planned the race to make halfway and easily went past that. Could have managed 2 more laps.

Filled up same amount and was not using anywhere near as much revs in second half, yet only had one lap of fuel left. Really ought to have been 6-7laps worth. Luckily I stuck with the fuel amount

This fuel usage problem has plagued me a lot tbh, 5-10 laps from the end I've got enough for that plus 3-4 laps extra in the bag, then all of a sudden with 1-2 laps left I'm on vapours.
Most annoying and makes a mockery of calculating the fuel to 'just' last.
Lately I'll overfuel the car by 10 laps or so, even then it just drinks it in the closing stages.

Jeez, stop that, would you?  >:(   Endurance, mixed class, tactics, gantlemanly racing, interesting things going on for 80 minutes - remember?!  You have Sprint for the same class.   :P

TT

Don't take that as a negative against drivers of slower cars. They are very good drivers but driving the cars to the absolute maximum.

It at times causes confusion when the closing speed is so rapid and at many times during the race it's still difficult to make a safe pass.

I had no unexpected issues with fuel use, I had pretty close to the amount I expected at the end. Dunno if this is maybe a car specific issue? I wonder if it's less tempting for to try to go with minimal fuel because of the lack of the MOTEC display in the Vertigo!

FWIW, when testing, I initially use the MoTeC interpreter to check my fuel consumption on a track by track basis with a full load, then back that up with some in-game testing on 6x fuel use.


Don't forget that this was the first Clubmen race with some relatively inexperienced drivers in both classes, it can take a while for all parties to get used to each other. That's why it's good to discuss it (the general principles, not specific incidents).  It also didn't help that Anderstop is probably one of the most difficult to  deal with in mixed class racing. I'm sure Silverstone will go rather more smoothly :)

To re-iterate the guidelines, best practice is for slower cars to stay on the racing line unless it's safer and easier to move offline to facilitate the pass.

[Edited by the "principals/principles" police.]

I used less fuel than I was expecting- I went for 44 minutes and then 38 in the set-up, but didn't pit until close to 50 minutes. I'd dropped the maximum revs by 200 to be cautious and probably only maxed the revs on the straight, perhaps the calculation GTR presents you with is based on redlining with max revs set?

I ran out of fuel on the last lap at the bottom of the hill at Enna a while ago- gutted isn't the word! I've stopped fiddling with close-to-the-bone amounts now and just add a couple of laps extra to each stint for safety. 2 laps fuel is nothing in terms of weight and the sort of thing you can make up by a couple of good corner exits. Just play it safe and get the driving right is my advice  :)

I had no issues as well. The fact that I ran out of fuel on the last lap was absolutely my own fault  ::)  If I had stuck to my original tactic I would have finished with 5-6L left..But as usual I had to do a last-minute change  ;D

Enna has a hill?  :o

TT

Don't forget some cars fuel usage calculations in the garage are complete rubbish (which is also why the onboard calculations are wrong too (how many laps left on tank)). Mosler and Saleen are two I can think of but I'm sure some of the others are way out too. Mosler uses about 1.5x what it says in the garage, which is why I do all my calculations manually.

I set more than 10 minutes surplus for the night race at Imola for Mosler and I still ran out of fuel there.  :D

TT

I've never managed to complete a lap there either TT :).

Not much fuel calculations needed for the Vertigo, but reading in garage was way off. Could have completed a sprint race with the fuel I had left over.

I meant Brno (but didn't say it ;)).

Right, after sundays little "cock up" with fuel, have just got myself a 15" flat screen to run GTR2 PD on!!! fingers crossed this WILL help  ;D

Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Anderstorp Enduro Clubmen 01-04-2007/index.html)

Sorry for delay, I try to make a lapchart for all the races.

Thanks Ruskus :)

Some nice new innovations from last time I looked, thx Ruskus. I thought it was a busy race, I passed 11 apparently :P. Doesn't show how many times i was passed though.

database OK? there's plenty of doubled or tripled players on the list

Database is fine but those reports come directly from the exports which are fabled for their capacity to mislead and confuse... ::)

Luckily the doubles are easily visible as 0 laps done and DNF.

Being a professional I edit the duplicates out before importing :P

And being a n00b (see the lack of teal  ;D), I can't  :P ;D