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Title: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on February 10, 2022, 10:17:34 PM +0000
Season 40 – 1968 LATE – Round 4 – Bathurst

Welcome to a new season of the 1968 Mod. A slight change in the format, we will use the 68 Late car set, not the Early. The track selection has a theme. The first 5 races will be held on Tasman series tracks from Australia & New Zealand. The second half of the season will be staged on tracks in the USA.

There is no handicapping but drivers will have a limited choice of chassis for each round. The cars are divided into 5 groups, each group will have cars of similar performance level. We start with Group V and work our way up to Group I and then repeat. Group I is the fastest cars available in Formula 1 for 1968.

The  third round takes place at the home of the Bathurst 1000 race, at Mount Panorama in New South Wales. You’ll be happy to learn that we are not doing the 161 laps used in the 1,000 km race.

The car set is Group III. Drivers may use any of the following cars but you will be required to use a different one for Race 8.  

Matra MS11
McLaren M5A
Coopet T86b

Full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Please read the season 40 general rules on the details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1691&theme=6).

Please read the specific rules for 68 series on the 1968 Early championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1741&theme=6).

Race listiGOR
ServerUKGPL4_60fps
IP address146.199.161.253:32766
Date15-02-2022
Track = Link (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=180)
Mod68L with 60fpsV2newmod
DamageIntermediate
Race time~ 21:30 UK time
Qualifying 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race length24 laps

ADVICE ON LAPPING. Some of the tracks in this series are short and narrow. The fastest drivers will be lapping backmarkers, perhaps more than once each race. For this year we have posted a multi-language guide to UKGPL rules on the Announcements page. This includes the etiquette for lapping. In summary the lapped car should remain on the racing line and avoid sudden or unexpected movements. To avoid holding up the lapping car the lapped driver can make way where safe to do so or gradually ease off the acceleration on a straight. Extra care should be taken by second or third lapping cars who may be closely following first lapping car.

Unlimited number of Shift-Rs are allowed with no need to make Stop & Go.

Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 incidents carry an extra 1 place penalty.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on February 15, 2022, 10:52:25 PM +0000
That was the scrappiest race I've had for a long time.

I ran into 4 or 5 of other peoples accidents, span off 3 times following other cars, span off by myself a few more times & got in other peoples way a couple of times whilst trying to get out of the way.
 
I don't think I caused any major inconvenience to anyone,  but one of those nights when I probably should just have parked the car & put the kettle on.

PS. Well done Paul - looks like you found your racing boots tonight.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: Doni Yourth on February 16, 2022, 12:57:44 AM +0000
What a horror!  :(

Shunts aplenty and I caused one with Fulvio.  Sorry, mate.

Some apologies needed here.  First, to Fran for being obstinate in a pass attempt at T2.  I thought it was in the bag but the straight-line speed of the Matra was something to behold.  As a consequence, I arrived there thinking I had the place only to realize at the last instant that it was, at best, a dodgey move.  Sorry that it pushed you wide and cost you.  My bad.  Second, to Evil Clive for possibly taking away the bit of road he was counting on in the run up to T2.  I saw this Cooper in my mirrors moving left as I was planning to naturally do so for the approach to T2 only to realize too late that you may have been much closer to me than I thought.  I see by my replay cap that it all went horribly wrong for you.  Sorry.  Lastly, to Fulvio who had to put up with several of my braking errors including contact that sent you over the fence in a late lap.  I just couldn't modulate the brake pedal properly.  It's a 14-year old Logitech G25 and seems to be woefully obsolete.  I'd love to upgrade to a load cell arrangement but I'm certain that my old legs wouldn't be able to stand the full pressure on the pedal.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: francesco on February 16, 2022, 09:54:36 AM +0000
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Some apologies needed here.  First, to Fran for being obstinate in a pass attempt at T2
N.P i have seen your car ,tightening the curve seemed to me a sure incident so i have I preferred to stay wide.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: bernie on February 16, 2022, 12:13:18 PM +0000
There were far too many incidents caused by bad driving in this race . I avoided the worst of it in the early laps but there were plenty more I didn't see . Just got settled in and starting to enjoy the race when Fabio decided to attack , his first two attempts failed when he ran wide attempting to pass at a speed were he never would have made the corner . His 3rd attempt was more succesful when he rammed me up the exhaust going into the last turn .
In frustration I hit the Esc button instead of S/R

Race over !

Have to say the standard of driving was abysmal , more like a Monza PU than what you might expect from UKGPL

Come on Boys you can do better than this


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: bagrupp on February 16, 2022, 12:16:49 PM +0000
Destroyed much with my spin & recover in downhill section Lap 1.
Sorry for the inconvience to all involved.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: Doni Yourth on February 16, 2022, 01:45:59 PM +0000
I can't argue with that statement, Bernie.  Speaking solely of my own efforts, it was one of great personal embarrassment.  :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: Rainier on February 16, 2022, 01:58:49 PM +0000
Have to say the standard of driving was abysmal , more like a Monza PU than what you might expect from UKGPL

Come on Boys you can do better than this

Including you : you rearended me on lap 2 (turn 2) with no real excuse like narrow track or blind turns !

I was caught in three big crashes :

- 1st lap when Bastian spun at the exit of the Dipper (?) and several cars were impacted : Phil, Tom, Fulvio, Paul, Francesco, me and all the following
- 2nd lap when Bernie rearended me on turn2. here again several cars crashed
- lap 6 when Tom spun at the Dipper

Maybe, standard of driving was bad  but on such narrow track with blind turns it is almost impossible to avoid incidents when the front car is spinning.   


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: Giovanni Centorame on February 16, 2022, 06:45:31 PM +0000
I've never imagined that i could stay on the lead for so long after the Lap 2 meat grinder, but i could  ;D and for a moment i thought the victory was at hand but Tristan on the final laps was really fast, and Pete too as he was immediately behind. I managed to keep a gap of 10 sec during the race and also catching the tow of the lapped cars on the long straight helped me for a while. The final 2 laps were really intese, great race, congrats guys  :clap:

The only thing i have to say is about the behaviour of Molteni when i was lapping him; it's not the first time that he races ignoring blue flags and this time i nearly crashed at Quarry as he was completely flat out on the mountain straight, even if i was 10 mt behind.  ???


EDIT: the replay is avaiable ,i can't find?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 16, 2022, 06:56:48 PM +0000
Replay is here (https://antipastiracing.org.uk/UKGPL_Replays/index.php)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: Giovanni Centorame on February 16, 2022, 07:05:43 PM +0000
Thank you Phil


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: il_lupo_mannaro on February 16, 2022, 07:57:09 PM +0000
Just got settled in and starting to enjoy the race when Fabio decided to attack , his first two attempts failed when he ran wide attempting to pass at a speed were he never would have made the corner . His 3rd attempt was more succesful when he rammed me up the exhaust going into the last turn .

I'm so sorry Bernie but I really wasn't trying to attack you: I didn't expect you were braking that early and I couldn't avoid you...  :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: francesco on February 17, 2022, 10:42:32 AM +0000
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The only thing i have to say is about the behaviour of Molteni when i was lapping him; it's not the first time that he races ignoring blue flags and this time i nearly crashed at Quarry as he was completely flat out on the mountain straight, even if i was 10 mt behind. 
You have lapped me at your lap 18 at Griffin bend without problem,so i can't understand where is the problem.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: Pete Bennett on February 17, 2022, 11:48:49 AM +0000
I made a great start from P3 to take Tris up the inside into T1. Fun for a lap with Tris and Evil but then a rear-end incident between those two took me off as well on L2, T2. I managed to get a quick Shift-R and then RACE ON. The Cooper was fun to dirve and very solid on the track. I could keep up with Tris and I was able to make good use of his tow. He popped an engine a few laps in and needed another Shift-R. Angex was soon in the mix and very hard to pass. Another near miss on L18 when Tris rear-ended Fran nearly took me out for a second time. Not sure how I missed the mess on the track. CG was getting close up ahead and I could have taken the P2 slot if we had just one more lap. I was tempted to make a risky move on the very last bend but I decided to take a solid third rather than risk us both going into the Australian outback over the fence. Great racing in the 68s again. I love 'em  ;D 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: Giovanni Centorame on February 17, 2022, 11:51:19 AM +0000
Yes , was at Griffin Bend, not Quarry. However from my point of view we nearly crashed and you could let me pass safely on the straight. It's not the first time, in Sandown was the same and in that event i spun trying to lap you.I sent a report to understand Who Is in fault.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: Pete Bennett on February 17, 2022, 12:07:09 PM +0000
What are the purple lap times on the results for? (Bagrupp and Phil)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: francesco on February 17, 2022, 12:38:17 PM +0000
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Yes , was at Griffin Bend, not Quarry. However from my point of view we nearly crashed and you could let me pass safely on the straight. It's not the first time, in Sandown was the same and in that event i spun trying to lap you.I sent a report to understand Who Is in fault.
Since you are italian is better if i explain my point of view in Italian.
Sul rettilineo tu eri certamente a pieno gas ,io ho allargato la curva per farti passare quindi presumo che tu non abbia perso secondi.
La tua segnalazione e' semplicemente per rompere i coglioni.Mi sono iscritto solo perche' c'e' Pukekohe che e' l'ultimo circuito che ho realizzato .A quello partecipero'.Per il resto mi ritirero' per la tua e di altri gioia.Alcuni di voi hanno il potere di rendere una serata di divertimento una rottura di palle.Odio le gare a categoria mista e le trovo inutili,si creano comunque 2 gare nella gara.Ho solo partecipato per il motivo detto sopra altrimenti avrei evitato.Potrei elencare un certo numero di incidenti,dico incidenti,subiti in questa serie ma non li ho segnalati dato che la mia partecipazione non ha velleita' di risultati, essendo io piuttosto scarso.Comunque grazie per avermi fatto prendere questa decisione.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: AnGex on February 17, 2022, 01:36:04 PM +0000
Penso che sia un peccato che tu ti stia ritirando dallo serie....


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: Rainier on February 17, 2022, 01:42:35 PM +0000
Sono d'accordo con Andreas ...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: bagrupp on February 17, 2022, 02:39:05 PM +0000
Sono d'accordo con Giovanni...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: bagrupp on February 17, 2022, 02:45:32 PM +0000
What are the purple lap times on the results for? (Bagrupp and Phil)


best m5a drivers :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: francesco on February 17, 2022, 02:59:10 PM +0000
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Sono d'accordo con Giovanni...

 Needless to write, I took it for granted.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: bernie on February 17, 2022, 03:40:25 PM +0000
Have to say the standard of driving was abysmal , more like a Monza PU than what you might expect from UKGPL

Come on Boys you can do better than this

Including you : you rearended me on lap 2 (turn 2) with no real excuse like narrow track or blind turns !

I was caught in three big crashes :

- 1st lap when Bastian spun at the exit of the Dipper (?) and several cars were impacted : Phil, Tom, Fulvio, Paul, Francesco, me and all the following
- 2nd lap when Bernie rearended me on turn2. here again several cars crashed
- lap 6 when Tom spun at the Dipper

Maybe, standard of driving was bad  but on such narrow track with blind turns it is almost impossible to avoid incidents when the front car is spinning.   

I was convinced It was me who had been rear ended there and got pushed into you , but looking now at the replay you are perhaps right except for the fact I did not actually make contact with your car , though I maybe did get a bit too close for GPL driving and then warp contact took over the rest . But applogies all round if you think I was out of order !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: AnGex on February 17, 2022, 05:13:26 PM +0000
What are the purple lap times on the results for? (Bagrupp and Phil)


best m5a drivers :)

Best M5A Driver was me.  :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: MagicArsouille on February 17, 2022, 05:27:53 PM +0000
Hi :)
First, apologies to Evil for the rear-end and the shit just after...sorry mate, my fault , no excuse !...sorry Pete & Andreas...we all do shift-r very soon but not Evil ??...why?....I do another shift-r at lap 4 by explosion of my engine !...
...and a 3rd one lap 14 !... fortunatly still 10 laps to go ...whith 3 laps to go I can overtake Giovanni for the win  ...:)
Pete was pressing my all the race long with FL  ...;) 
...Matra was good and nice track....
cu next one on this good 68mod, thx all and Org.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: Cookie on February 17, 2022, 05:35:31 PM +0000
What are the purple lap times on the results for? (Bagrupp and Phil)

It is caused by a wrong drvl68.ini in the install!

Look into your drvl68.ini and if the first line is Oulton then it's wrong...

You need
https://www.mediafire.com/file/mc6zvapixjf159n/drvl68.ini.zip/file


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: fpolicardi on February 17, 2022, 06:10:21 PM +0000
To my italian mates:
Ragazzi non facciamoci riconoscere, non facciamo troppo i permalosi o i vittimisti...  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: AnGex on February 17, 2022, 06:15:24 PM +0000
... Angex was soon in the mix and very hard to pass... Great racing in the 68s again. I love 'em  ;D 

Yeah, was a good  :fencing: with you again!
Love it too.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: Rainier on February 17, 2022, 06:35:59 PM +0000

I was convinced It was me who had been rear ended there and got pushed into you , but looking now at the replay you are perhaps right except for the fact I did not actually make contact with your car , though I maybe did get a bit too close for GPL driving and then warp contact took over the rest . But applogies all round if you think I was out of order !

No problem, Bernie.
Did you look at the UKGPL replay ?
At 3min40sec, you were very very close  ;D 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: bernie on February 18, 2022, 10:47:09 AM +0000
No just my own replay . as said I did get close but I think you were on the anchors for the guy in front of you , kind of concertina effect , but It wasn't "dive bombing" in a desperate move to pass , you had already passed me in T1 , my intension was to follow and get the tow up the hill , sadly it all went tits up for you and the others  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: bagrupp on February 18, 2022, 12:43:54 PM +0000
What are the purple lap times on the results for? (Bagrupp and Phil)


best m5a drivers :)

Best M5A Driver was me.  :D

so+1.869 is faster then +1.6 ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: AnGex on February 18, 2022, 10:31:35 PM +0000
Your reference was not to faster but to best. And fourth is better than fifth and sixth. But probably too high for you.  :wetfish:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: bagrupp on February 19, 2022, 10:07:51 PM +0000
Seems More that everything Is too high for
You, you do Not even Unterstand that These colums
Are for fastest lap. What a shame…


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1968 F1 (Late) - Bathurst - Feb 15
Post by: AnGex on February 20, 2022, 05:49:59 PM +0000
 :yawn: