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Season 40 1967F1 WORKS – Round 4  - Norisring
Round four in the 1967 F1 series finds us at Norisring a street ircuit in Nuremberg, Bavaria, Germany.
Originally established as a motorcycle racing venue in 1947 and named in a 1950 competition to win a light motorcycle, the track became known as a sports car racing venue in the 1970s.
The great mexican racing driver Pedro Rodríguez De La Vega died at the Norisring in 1971 when the Ferrari 512 he was hired to drive hit the bridge wall before the Schöller-S and burst into flames  

Race list	=	iGOR
Server	=	UKGPL04_60fps
IP address	=	146.199.161.253:32766
Password	=	see above (#post_event_password)
GPL Mod	=	67F1
Damage model	=	PRO
60fps Patch	=	60fpsV2newmod
Track Folder	=	norisrng
Track Download	=	here (http://url=http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=6053&st=0#entry56771)
Qualifying starts	=	20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race starts	=	~ 21:30 UK time
Race length	=	53 laps
Replay	=	HERE after the race (https://antipastiracing.org.uk/UKGPL_Replays/index.php)

Please READ CAREFULLY THESE NEW RULES :

A driver must cross the start line in order to register the use of a chassis, participation in qualifying is not sufficient.

Drivers must use 7 different chassis for their first 7 races.
Only when a driver has used all 7 chassis, will they be allowed to select a chassis for the second time.
Any driver who uses a chassis for the second time before all 7 chassis have been used once, will be disqualified from the race.
Any driver who uses a chassis he has already used twice will be disqualified from the race.

Points will be allocated from 1st to 12th as follows: 20, 15, 12, 10, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

Drivers must complete 75% race distance to score.

A bonus point will be awarded for pole position.
A bonus point will be awarded for the fastest lap.

MOD PRO so no shift-R

Only reported incidents will be moderated.

Please, excepting emergencies, no chat until Session Completed in qualification. No chat in the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Please check the Season 40 details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1691&theme=6) regarding rules and the 1967 F1 Works Championship pages (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1701&theme=6) in particular.


Chassis usage so far:

Driver	Driven Once
Alain Maurice	Honda
AlexGPL67	Cooper	Ferrari
Baab	Cooper		Ferrari
bagrupp	BRM	Ferrari	Honda
Claudio Navonne	Eagle		Ferrari
Doni Yourth	Cooper	BRM	Honda
Enrique Farina	BRM	Lotus	Honda
EvilClive	Cooper	BRM	Honda
fpolicardi	Cooper	Ferrari	Honda
Frank Verplanken			Ferrari
GrandPrixYannick
GregT	Cooper	Honda	Ferrari
JonnyO	BRM	Honda	Lotus
K.Miele	Cooper	Ferrari	Lotus
Lasse Albrecht	BRM
Leo Menegucci	Brabham	Lotus	Ferrari
MagicArsouille	BRM	Ferrari	Honda
Phil Thornton	Cooper	Brabham	BRM
R_Jungle	Ferrari
RBald	BRM	Honda	Lotus
Syd Drake	BRM	Lotus

Did my first laps around this place and oooh.... I hope it grows on me.  Maybe one to get a slower car ticked off!

Same for me , does GPL model a Go Kart  ::)

  Congrats podium.....my engine blow with 87 ºc.

  Two races engine problems  :(

My race in a nutshell :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f70Z3cvrQd0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f70Z3cvrQd0)

 ;D

Did the pole in front of Greg, took a good start and managed to keep him behind all race long. Lap after lap I had "-1" on the pit board, but despite a couple of wide ones at the hairpin I was confident I could hold him off. Five laps from the end he fell back 7 seconds behind so it was looking good indeed. I was catching up Leo and Kike who were in a hot fight for position so I thought I'd slow down a bit as to not spoil their race so close to the finish. Slowed down too much. Kissed the inner guardrail at turn 3. Two laps from the end. Goodbye wheel. Goodbye win.

Arguably one of my greatest defeats  ;D !

Anyways nice racing Greg and grats for the win ! Ditto to all finishers, great pace with slow cars galore out there ! Thanks hosts. See you all next time.

I think that was me ::), I was slow enough for drivers to think there was more than one Honda on the track :o. I'm not a fan of the short tracks so I thought I'd take the Honda (the hardest car for me) and get it out of the way.

I was amazed to see no retirements after the incidents on the start line and at T1 on L1. Sorry for the contact on L3 K.Miele, I thought I had just enough room to squeeze past but the armco came in at that point and I clipped it which pushed me into you. Thankfully we could both continue. After that is was just a case of survival for me.

I meant there were a lot of people going fast with slow cars, sorry for the misunderstanding ;). Traffic was impeccable and that includes your Honda(s)  ;D

4th place in the BRM running out of fuel in the last lap is good enough for me.

Pushing hard to keep in front o Bob and Kike made my fronts overheat and I had massive understeer. Bad setup and I used much more gas than planned. One more lap Enrique and you would be 3rd. That was a hard race.

   Now seeing the final result of the race is a beautiful podium!!!!
  I think Greg Taber deserves a win with so much bad luck last season, it's good to see Taber back!!!!!

  Same thing seeing Doni very strong at Norisring, very competitive!!!!
   I hope to have more luck in the next race.

I think that some red tickets should be raised for L1 crashes.  ::)
I started dead last after start crash and the podium was an unexpected result.

Luck was on your side today, Fulvio.  Grats on P3.

I very much agree that stiff penalties for such nonsense as took place in T1 on Lap01 should be meted out.  I'll be back later with a full report and a proper dressing-down for Monsieur Boulet de Démolition.

according to fulvius.
  I had a terrible start since the fulvio's BT got a bit stuck at the start, and when I dodged it, my car skidded and I managed to touch it, fortunately without serious consequences for it, I was fortunate to fly through the air and fall in the full pit area (that's very lucky)
  I started from the pits almost from last place and dedicated myself to finishing the race.
  I had an excellent set up and I know I could come strong, and that's how it was, I didn't make a single mistake in the race, and I was able to come back to 5th position, with 2 very strong BRM, it was very difficult for my cooper to overtake them, with a few laps to go I saw that Baab spun and managed to stop helping him straighten up ....... :D
  later he made the same mistake again and managed to dodge him, and I was able to win that position, then he was chasing leo with all the fury that my cooper gave me, and I managed to catch him, but with 3 or 4 laps to go, I gave him a little touch in the last corner and I dislodged him, I braked to give him back his position and Fulvio took advantage of that mistake of mine and won 2 more positions,...... :angel:..very good teamy, in the end I finished 5th and because of my mistake I made him lose one position to leo in the general and I apologize for it. ...... :(

Congrats Doni and Fulvio! Shame on you Frank for tossing your win. Thanks for the gift.

I didn´t expect to win. Two lucky wins in a row! :) I haven´t thought I might win a GPLBrasil or UKGPL Works race in years. At one time I would try to set myself up to win a certain race each season. I didn´t think I would or could win any race this season. I´m not surprised I did well at Riverside and Norisring. I´ve finished many times on both tracks. I thought the Lotus´s acceleration would work well on this track. It did.

It was nice to see Doni show some good strength. He qualified about the same as my fastest Ferrari lap. I apologize if my slow first turn caused you to get in an accident. I was trying to do my best to not hit Frank. I was glad to see you were still in the race.

Good race Frank! You did well until the end. It was much easier to follow than lead. I was able to be careful and leave a good gap for emergencies. I felt I might have been able to be a little faster than you the first half of the race if I were leading. But I would have needed 2-3 second gap to assure I was consistent. I did great staying in position for any mistake you might make. After I almost spun as I approached Fulvio, I thought the race was settled. I was surprised you would make a much bigger mistake. You seemed to accelerate sooner than I could exiting the first and last turn. I was able to slide the car into turn 1 better than you appeared to do. I only fell behind twice before catching Fulvio. I couldn´t get traction out of the last turn. I lost a second there both times.

I found a good routine this time. I copied my Norisring Cooper setup. I changed the differential. I practiced for 20 minutes before qualifying. Some minor camber and gear adjustments had me in decent shape to start qualifying. And a coast side ramp angle change mid-qualifying got the car as good as I could have hoped. That was just enough driving to get me somewhat consistent, comfortable, and safe. I did the same thing Friday with the Chaparral except I used my Sebring Chaparral setup to start practicing.

I feel bad for Frank. He had me beat, but it´s always nice to get a win each season even if it was a lucky one.

Thanks for the fun guys! I appreciate it.

I think i could have been a bit more competitive with a better setup.
I ran my engine up to 102 ° C and went into short shifting, getting even slower.

I was lucky at the start, waited until all debris was cleared, but nearly everyone collected me again later.

Grats to Greg, the podium and all finishers. A round of applause for my team mate Doni who is putting together string of respectable  finishes across the board lately.  :thumbup2:

A little ( a lot!) disappointed to go out so early.
My plan was to drive carefully and get to the finish in the Ferrari, which is a car that I rarely choose. All my practice and qually was done with full race fuel as I did not want any surprises with a heavy car when the race started.
 But, my expectation had been to start at the back of the grid because a heavy car in qualifying would surely not be on the front rows and then I could avoid the inevitable crashfests on lap 1. So, when I suddenly found myself on Row 3 for the start all of my "drive safe" plans were in trouble.
Entering T1 I was like a Meerkat watching both mirrors for dive bombs and deliberately staying wide, quite prepared to lose a few places but stay out of trouble.
Then it all went totally t*ts up!! There was contact ahead and suddenly, there was a car rolling backwards right across my nose that I could not avoid. I bounced off of that car and half spun. Then I was hit hard and launched into the air spinning around several times and landing facing the wrong way. I drove out around the back of the tyre wall and rejoined the track after T1 now back in 10th place :-\, but something was not right. The nice Ferrari V12 appeared a little down on power for the rest of the lap.

My setup allowed me to take T1 and T4 in 2nd gear and avoid wheelspin/ high tyre temps and over revving, so I was absolutely confident in not suffering a mechanical failure. But exiting T1 on lap 2 there was a bang from the engine and then silence. I can only assume that the impacts at the start had inflicted terminal damage on the engine.
That ending was not on my script  :(

A great victory for Greg!  Well done, sir.  But, oh my, poor Frank...

I thought that the Ferrari would be a good ride here at the Norisring and wasn't disappointed.  I bested my PB from pre-race trials but a couple of tenths to start P3.  Quite satisfied with that.

I got a nice launch to follow Frank and Greg down to T1 where, on braking, I saw this Cooper looming up large in my mirror left.  I doubted this would be Jonny...he exercises good judgement...so it could only be Bot.  At the last moment before turn-in, I eased my braking very slightly to give the Cooper some room praying that he didn't hit me.  I believe that I gave Greg a gentle nudge in the tail as I started to round the corner.  Pleased to see that it did not give him grief.  The grief was coming my way.  As is so often the case, Bot body-slammed me into a spin and started a monster shunt for so many trailing.  You had maybe a 10% chance of pulling that off, Bot, and most of that only because you climbed the curb on the inside.  When, oh when, will you ever behave?  Look at the damage and chaos you caused.  :(

Clive and Jonny suffered engine failures.  Bad luck, gys.  Most likely the root cause was the Lap01 shunt.

I recovered from being bounced around to emerge in P7 with the Ferrari seemingly no worse for wear.  Over the next handful of laps, I had to work hard to get by the BRM's of Bob and Leo to ultimately claim P3.  Greg was well up the road and out of reach unless some disaster befell him.  For many a lap, it was keep up the pace and watch the laps tick off.  With just one lap to run, my pit board showed that Frank was now P2 so Greg must have taken the lead.  When I took the checker, I was confident of P3.  Imagine my shock and surprise to see that I was P2 with Frank nowhere to be seen.  In scoping the replay cap, I saw that Frank had been cruelly robbed of a good win thanks to the frailty of the Lotus.  What seemed to be a minor biff of a guardrail pruned off his LF wheel.  In trying to manage the car to finish, it got away from him completely on braking for T1.  What a sad and undeserved fate.

From the replay cap, I noted the drama for some before they even got to the SFline to start Lap01.  Heavens!  That Fulvio could recover from that to score a podium was nothing short of remarkable.  I guess that shows that one must never give up.

Thanks for the kind words guys :thumbup1: !

As Doni says it was indeed quite a minor tap against the guardrail that took my wheel off, which made it all the more depressing lol. Bloody Lotus.

Oh and did I mention that this would have been my first GPL victory since November.... of 2009 lmao ? There must be kids simracing online today that weren't born in two thousand freaking nine  ;D ! Granted I only did around 25 GPL races since that 2009 win, but still that was quite a bummer to say the least. Now I know how Senna felt at Monaco in 1988 lol.

Well, turned out to be a lot more fun than expected.  Re my earlier post, this was a new track for me and my first impression wasn't great, so I decided to take the BRM.  I adapted one of Hristo's Solitude setups since it's anti clock, then changed almost everything during qual (tyre pressure, toe-in, camber, diff, gearing!).  The resultant setup seemed reasonable and I was happy with 8th on the grid.

So, T1... having jumped past Leo at the start I was expecting carnage at T1 and wasn't disappointed  :P :o the question was, where to go, since I was on a wide line I stayed so and managed to avoid the wreckage until Leo walloped my gearbox thrusting me into the air and crashing back down hard.  Amazingly I could continue once I found 1st and my car seemed undamaged, least, as far as I could tell  ;D  I then followed Leo and Carsten, both in BRMs but soon had Donald breathing down my neck.  He didn't stay there long though and was soon past the gaggle and cleared off, great driving.  After many laps I managed to chase Leo down, however, I now had Enrique on my tail, showing me his nose and almost getting it chopped off (after watching the rpy I'm amazed we didn't collide).  I almost let you past Enrique, you were a lot faster and seemed to be playing!  I suppose my random lines into T1 were hard to judge.  I too had to be careful since I gained loads on Leo into T1 and mounted the kerbs on several occasions in avoidance.  Shortly after I snatched 2nd too aggressively outta T1 and lost it. 

In the end after running 5th for most of the race, then briefly 4th, I ended-up 6th, slightly gutting but if offered that before the race I'd have taken it.

Cheers for the racing and organizing,

Bob

Ok , it's my fault I had block my tires at the bracking , a spinn who push me on the grass inside and then I try but can't avoid a little contact but big concequences ....:/  sorry Doni and all affect , I was not trying to overtake anybody here !
...my race was bad and short , my engine die 2 laps later ( maybe my engine got problem after have been hurt few time in the " big bazard " ....:/

Fulvio,

"Only reported incident will be moderated"

So no reported incident = no red ticket

I am not speaking about T1 incident but about your start crash ...

No problem for my crash, Rick already explained and apologized. Plus I had my revenge at the end  ;D