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Title: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 06, 2007, 09:16:13 PM +0100
Practice 1:20:15(10 mins)full time drivers only
Practice 2:20:25(10 mins)reserves may join too
Qual 2:20:35(20 mins)
Race:21:00(40 minutes)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT1 or G2 from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.3 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) (G2 cars will not score points).
Weather: Dry
Track: Silverstone ('Northampton') GP (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27); see this thread (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2990.0) if you have problems)
Race Start Time 14:00 (rolling start)

Server: UKGTR GT1 Sprint
Password: available from the event page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=303) (see the Show Password link under the announcement text)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=50)
(2b) Reserves should not join until the stated session, regardless of the time.
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must selecte ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyones' connections will be reduced.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: cej on April 06, 2007, 11:34:04 PM +0100
not going to make this one :(  it's my brothers birthday .


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: linco24 on April 07, 2007, 10:41:44 AM +0100
Dam! Was really hoping it wouldn't be this Tuesday. I'm in Manchester and my flight back will be tight. There is a small possibility I'll make it but it will be cutting it very fine! Here's hoping :)

Colin 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Kerr on April 09, 2007, 10:33:35 AM +0100
Can somebody please change the server over now, since all the Anderstrop races are out the way?

cheers


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 09, 2007, 10:35:40 AM +0100
Can somebody please change the server over now, since all the Anderstrop races are out the way?

Somebody seems to have done that already...


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 09, 2007, 12:21:28 PM +0100
Somebody seems to have done that already...

I swapped the server over once I'd done the results/replay.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Kerr on April 09, 2007, 03:02:24 PM +0100
cheers. It just says anderstrop on the News: server status

I will get some practice in tonight. I like Silverstone and was my first ever race.
I used the 550 in the 2 hour endurance and now I have to get the Lambo set up. I have a feeling the Lambo will actually be quicker around here, in my hands anyway.

Looking forward to it and hopefully if goes better than the last few races


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 09, 2007, 03:10:43 PM +0100
cheers. It just says anderstrop on the News: server status

Ah, yes I always forget about that, updated now. Shame there is no way to update it automatically from the server.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Buckie on April 09, 2007, 03:54:05 PM +0100
Staying at my parents for the week so ill be using my old mans dinosaur pc, which will hopefully stay alive for the 40mins. We shall see. :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: will16v on April 10, 2007, 12:58:05 PM +0100
Champions League toninght...mmm - i will record it - have to get some praccy in though as not much experience at all at Silverstone  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: lincescom on April 10, 2007, 08:49:48 PM +0100

 Hi,
 No luck, game full  :-[

 Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: picnic on April 10, 2007, 09:42:24 PM +0100
Not sure I grok GT1 cars, they are great fun to hot lap but I can't say I've enjoyed racing them. Probably because my setups are crap. Even in the draft I couldn't gain on any car I was following and then of course my higher corner speeds meant the tyres kept getting too hot and I kept binning in.

Respect to all those who manage it.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Jeffrey on April 10, 2007, 09:50:04 PM +0100
Great first few laps with Freq. I think he had high rear wing, as he was quick in the long corners, but sstruggling on the straights. Everytime, at the end of the straight I had to lift off before the braking point.

In lap 4 or so I had the same speed through the last corner as Freq, and I could get alongside heading towards T1. Car went a bit wobbly there, so I missed my apex by 2 feet or so  :-[.

In the end I could drive it home, which was getting pretty hard towards the end, running on 4 rims  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 10, 2007, 09:55:41 PM +0100
That circuit was a blast. 6 places better off on the grid than last week and an 11 position climb last week so I was looking for the win. :laugh: :laugh: Unfortunately I only gained 3 positions this time, but hey, not bad.

That circuit was a lot of fun, really challenging. Getting the line right through Sector 1 was really tricky to do every lap. The high speed cornering was quite exciting.

Didn't actually have any overtakes with anyone, but I was close with others most of the race. Had a duel with Eccles for the last 15 minutes, but the Lambo vs F550 at Silverstone when the two drivers are about the same gives the Lambo no chance. It was like being in NGT as the F550 just peed off down the straight. Then I'd catch it through the twisties especially the slow stuff at the end where the awful F550 handling really shows, but still stand no chance. Can't get close enough on the straights (as in even in the slip stream) to make an outbrake manoever. Few times I was right up behind coming onto a straight, but even with the slipstream I couldn't stay with him at all and by the end of the straight there would be a massive gap.

Tyre wear was suprisingly good and I had 8 litres to spare too after putting in 95L to start with and some conservative driving at the start to conserve tyres and fuel to make sure I made it with good grip and enough fuel at the end.

Enjoyed the drive and hopefully the Lambo will be better for overtaking at some of the slower circuits, but it certainly was a hoot to drive, like a very fast go kart.

Well done to Jeff on the win and amazing pace from both you and Freq in qualifying, great stuff chaps.

Online again some stuttering. It's mad, my FPS said 100fps throughout yet there were plenty of stutters. Even when it went down to 23 players still stutters occasionally. No ghost cars or warps this time though so better in that respect.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Adam Parle on April 10, 2007, 09:56:13 PM +0100
Not sure I grok GT1 cars, they are great fun to hot lap but I can't say I've enjoyed racing them. Probably because my setups are crap. Even in the draft I couldn't gain on any car I was following and then of course my higher corner speeds meant the tyres kept getting too hot and I kept binning in.

Respect to all those who manage it.

Same here, the first GT1 race was a non-event due to a disco, and tonight was no fun at all.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: linco24 on April 10, 2007, 10:00:17 PM +0100
17 hours later and i'm stil awake ;D

Been up since 5 and been to Manchester and back to Belfast. Didnt think I was gonna make it on time but got in the door bang on 8.15. Had no set-up, no practice, and no energy! Used my Anders set-up and treaked a few little things quickly. Was really surprised I was anywhere but last so I stuck at it. Really happy with qually managing to get into the 42's. Went for mediums all round and a full payload of fuel. Started okay and managed to get past TT. TT if it was you mate, you did look like you were struggling on the tyres. Got past then set upon the Legends Saleen (looks great btw!). Slight mistake and I got past. HAd some real pressure from Madd in his lambo but managed to pull away and secure a 4-5 second gap. Tyres felt good, car felt good and i'm really happy with 12th!

Well done to all racers and the podium guys!

Colin 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Kerr on April 10, 2007, 10:01:56 PM +0100
That was tough going from start to finish. Under massive pressure from the off. I set my lambo to lower downforce than I actually wanted an I knew those Ferrari's were going to be trouble. It sacrificed a few tenths a lap but I knew the Ferrari's would make mince meat of me otherwise.

I must say I have really noticed in the last few races how much of a speed deferential there actually is? Can't remember it being as much last season.

Thought I was holding position well exiting the corners before the straights with more speed than the Ferrari behind and although he was pulling in rapidly down the straight I felt I had enough to keep ahead.

In 4th I was drawing up to the Lambo in 3rd and was catching all the time. Got the gap down to barely 0.8 sec and was confident of a pass. Then bump, a tap in the back and I'm facing the wrong way and a few people jumped ahead.


The last couple of laps I was hot on the heels of truetom. Both of us struggling with tyres I just could not get enough drive out of the corners.

All in all a great race, felt more like 10mins and not 40 it was over that quick


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Madd-RIP on April 10, 2007, 10:06:42 PM +0100
 ;D Had a right 'ol ding dong with Dave for an age but that Lambo just is not quick enough down Hangar Straight, he was creeping up on me all the time, made a mistake by using med rears, according to Motec they were cooking by lap 8!  :o
Still, I'm sure Dave was entertained seeing the back of my car wiggle around through Becketts  :o, it all went wrong eventually and he nabbed me on Hanger straight....then I spun  :'( . Somebody must have sabotaged my top speed somehow :whistling:, not sure who though!
Still one great race, really enjoyed it. 14th and chuffed!
Only saw a little bit of the jitters but not too bad, weird how it's started again.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: picnic on April 10, 2007, 10:07:44 PM +0100
Replay (http://ukgtr.simracing.org.uk/Northamptonshire%20GP%20-%20GT1%20Sprint%20070410.zip) and  Provisional Results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=303)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Adam Parle on April 10, 2007, 10:10:06 PM +0100
TT if it was you mate, you did look like you were struggling on the tyres. Got past then set upon the Legends Saleen (looks great btw!).

Nope, that was me in the Maser (or one of them - TT was running top 5 at that point), started 16th.  Car felt like a bag of poo from the start and was sliding all over the place.  Carried on for longer than I cared to, but in the end it was so unenjoyable that I quit to the pits, and watched TT show what the Maser can do!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Jeffrey on April 10, 2007, 10:16:16 PM +0100

Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Silverstone GT1 10-04-07/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 10, 2007, 10:18:17 PM +0100
Was a bit disappointed with qualifying only 19th after knocking half a second off my PB, but was pretty happy that I had a good race car underneath me and was looking forward to the race.

Start went well but at the end of the first lap I was so excited about being right up behind Madd and Adam that I totally forgot about picking out the braking point for Copse and had to take to the runoff to avoid spinning or ramming Madd from behind. That let Jan past and I had ChOnG behind; like Anderstorp the latter couldn't match my pace but this time I was ahead and set off in hot purrrrsuit of Jan's 550.

Couldn't see how I was going to pass Jan without a mistake; I was all over him like the proverbial bad suit in the twisty bits but the 550 was just walking away on the straights. Concentrated on being smooth and looking after the tyres - especially the left rear which was falshing red occaisonally. Finally a third of the way into the race he made the critical mistake, running too deep into Abbey and allowing me to force the issue and stick a pass on him.

That released me to start hacking my way through a field of cars which were obviously starting to struggle on worn tyres. Picnic allowed me past into Stowe (thanks, teamie 8)), next up was Bernie in the Legends' Saleen. I must apologise to him for the rather hasty stab up the inside of Priory; he was desperately slow in the preceeding corners but I was a bit too keen to get on after Madd again and should probably have waited a a few corners and done you on the front straight. :-[ (Note to self: 1230s in the replay.) Luckily for him the contact was fairly minor and he kept it on track as I now set off after Madd-RIPP in the Lambo.

I was amazed by the number of people who don't get anywhere near the apex of the first (left handed) part of the Abbey chicane - it's a critical corner as it leads into a number of overtaking spots at the end of the lap. Luckily for me I read the Circuit Driver guide to Silverstone again yesterday in preparation which helped enourmously during the race to find spots to claw back time from the faster cars.

The battle with Madd lasted for what felt like a considerable time; once again I was much faster in the wiggly bits but struggled to get close enough on the straights to get into the tow and slingshot past. Finally I got the mistake I needed as Madd wobbled through the exit of Chapel and I got a solid tow into Stowe, only to see him spin off behind trying to cut back on the exit. :o :laugh:

That left me in 13th and chasing Colin for Team Shark/Junior honours, but just as I was starting to make an impression on him I had one of the strange laps where the car seems to have no grip at all. After that I had to slow down a bit as the grip returned but the tyres were past their prime, especially as I had a brief off coming out of Priory, and had to settle for 13th.

It's a real shame I'm going to miss the Endurance Clubmen because my race pace was much better than I expected and the car felt really solid for 90% of the race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 10, 2007, 10:22:31 PM +0100
Not sure I grok GT1 cars, they are great fun to hot lap but I can't say I've enjoyed racing them. Probably because my setups are crap.

I must admit that in NGT I just whacked some fuel in and slapped on some harder tyres and I was good to go. GT1 is totally different and my race setup is significantly different from my qually one (both originated from CeeJay, much respect :notworthy:). The cars are so much faster that there's no time to be making minor errors - if you miss a braking point you're probably going to run off the track. It's a real eye-opener, though I knew I was in for a steep learning curve this season.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Buckie on April 10, 2007, 10:34:24 PM +0100
As im away all week never had time to make setups so went with some random downloaded setup which seemed the best of a bad bunch. With that and using my dads pc im quite happy with my 17th finish. Formation lap was a bit scarey GTR showing 10fps :o. Was ready to quit incase i caused carange but thankfully as soon as the race started and cars started to split the fps went up dramatically allowing me to race without major stuttering. Had some nice fights throughout highlight being passing my brother who stupidly locked up ;D  :P

Good race all, well done podium.



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Joss on April 10, 2007, 10:41:46 PM +0100
Good race, pleased to have finally competed in a race this season after the disaster that was Anders. :)

Was very pleased with my qualy pace, over half a second better than my previous best - also pleasantly surprised to beat Ruskus into second. The Lambo has a tendency to go brilliantly in qualifying due to it's great corner speed as it can really take advantage of softer rubber, but the race is an entirely different matter. You really need to qualify well in a Lambo as it's tough to overtake in one unless the track is twisty. Very good car for noobs though - it really inspires confidence  8)

Sorry if the start was a little jerky, I was originally aiming to start across the white/black striped line, but upon seeing the lap time flash up on the screen on the line before, I thought that was the start/finish line so went then. Hope that was right. At least I get the 75mph thing right now!  :-X

Hangar straight is the Lambo's worst enemy and I couldn't believe how fast Ruskus could creep up on me so had to work hard in the corners and was pleased to hold on for a few laps, but it was clear he was biding his time and once he got a good run on me, it was essentially over. :P

Then it was a case of Ruskus stretching the gap on me and me stretching the gap on...I think it was Enzo? Anyway....fairly quiet race really. Good fun though, equalled my best lap from the Enduro and bettered the pole pace; Ruskus rightly claimed the fastest lap...a whole 6 tenths faster than my best - fair play  :o

Hopefully I'll be around for my first Masters event!  ;D ;D



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: ChOnG on April 10, 2007, 10:42:25 PM +0100
Was a great race even tho being stuck at back again, the end could of been really good as there was 5/6 cars at last corner on last lap all fighting for points. To many stupid mistakes from me and just not enough pace, made most of the mistakes trying to shake of my brother behind me :D The lambo behind me made me fight for my 18th spot aswell was a great battle for end part of race, he was alot quicker in corners and had alot more grip but not enought to pass me and on the staights i started pulling away again.

Gr all, cgrats to podium


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Kerr on April 10, 2007, 10:47:11 PM +0100

Hangar straight is the Lambo's worst enemy and I couldn't believe how fast Ruskus could creep up on me so had to work hard in the corners and was pleased to hold on for a few laps, but it was clear he was biding his time and once he got a good run on me, it was essentially over. :P



Is it just me Freq or does the lambo somehow seem slower on the straights this year, or am I seeing things?can't remember Ferrari's to be that much quicker

I also think it's drinking more too. I found that the last couple of times I have started with huge fuel amount then when I tried a previous tested set up there was not enough fuel


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Jeffrey on April 10, 2007, 10:54:30 PM +0100

Is it just me Freq or does the lambo somehow seem slower on the straights this year, or am I seeing things?can't remember Ferrari's to be that much quicker

I also think it's drinking more too. I found that the last couple of times I have started with huge fuel amount then when I tried a previous tested set up there was not enough fuel

What wings were you guys driving on? A Lambo with high wing versus a F550 with low wing might make it look different than it really is. The F550 has more added weight than the Lambo.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Enzo on April 10, 2007, 11:04:09 PM +0100
well what a race that was!
i was practicing another track, thought id have a break and do an online race, and see some people chattin about srou race im like damm!!

quickly get in no setup no nothing, managed to get some good laps in during praccy 2 and qually and make a quick setup!
i did one flyin lap with low fuel and soft tyres and managed third on the grid! lol wow i couldnt believe it!

started race with med meds and in race my bad setup showed its true colours!  left rear was burning after 3 laps!!
that was prob because i was under immense pressure from the off from a red ferrari!  i was really supprised how much i had to defend after the straights but at the last part of the circuit got a gap!
then i think the guy (sorry dont know who u are) must of made a mistake and he fell back into the waiting arms of kerr!
i buitl up a 5 sec or so lead and from there just tried to manage the left rear as best i could!

I  had a go at catchin freq but i could only really match his times and at the same time was really cookin the tyre so i tried to consolidate 3rd!
i was puttin in a few good laps then lettin the tyre cool a bit then do a few more!

Kerr started catchin me quite consistently so i decieded to just try and keep the tyre as cool as i could until he got a bit closer then make a little charge for it! fortunately for me he got tagged and spun and from there on out i could manage the time behind me to around 3 secs!

Overall im really chuffed with the result considering my seat time for the event!
congrats to freq ruskus and my team m8 baracus on makin it a r24-7 3/4!



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Kerr on April 10, 2007, 11:06:36 PM +0100
I ran 5 tonight, just to try and fend off the Ferrari's. My lap time was slightly quicker with more wing but I knew I had to run less wing to try and hold position on straight.

The plan was for better qualifying. Did countless mid 1.41's today, but never had one good lap during qualifying, then I thought I could hold off Ferrari's with my strategy



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Joss on April 10, 2007, 11:32:28 PM +0100
I ran 5 tonight, just to try and fend off the Ferrari's. My lap time was slightly quicker with more wing but I knew I had to run less wing to try and hold position on straight.

The plan was for better qualifying. Did countless mid 1.41's today, but never had one good lap during qualifying, then I thought I could hold off Ferrari's with my strategy


From what I've read, even a 550 with high wing is faster than a Lambo with low wing, so I go my own way on wing setup now and don't worry about what others are doing. It sometimes means it's very tough to overtake, but by running higher wing I can manage the tyres better and run far more consistantly throughout a race. For the record, I was on 8 wing.

Regarding the speed difference? I don't think there's any change really. It's the usual Lambo rocks through corners and sucks on straights thing that's been going on for aaages. You've just got to exploit the strengths as best you can.
I personally hate muscleing a poor handling car through corners and flying down straights, I enjoy really pushing through corners and I love the linear nature of the way it breaks loose into a slide that's really controllable. After trying the Lister, I realised I was having more fun driving the Lambo (in a similar way to realising I preferred driving GTR to GT4 ages ago) and that's all that matters really.

I'd give the Aston a go, but I think I really like the MR style layout, as I get on well with the Mosler as well...and as much as I hate to say it...the 360 :p


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Enzo on April 10, 2007, 11:43:07 PM +0100
i ran 10 wing, maybe i should of ran 12 keep that blinkin tyre cool lol


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Kerr on April 11, 2007, 12:05:27 AM +0100
It was a swings and roundabouts race. I did have the edge on the Ferrari's on the corners that mattered and I usually had enough of a gap gained through the corners to just manage to hold it on the straight.

Watched the replay and it's impressive in bits. The first few laps with the Ferrari all over me was good to watch. He was actually past me at one point, I left enough space for him and ran round the outside then had the line into next bend. All good stuff!

I still wish I qualified better to see how it went. The racing from 3rd back was hectic to say the least real quality. Unfortunately I was nudged and spun, It was all a bit tight and these things happen.

Would have liked a go and Enzo in his lambo, but was not to be. The maser of truetom was similar to the Lambo in performance and had a couple of looks to pass, but he covered my path well.

Great race really enjoyed it. I have the clubmans race on Sunday to look forward to. Should be good as there is a few really fast guys in there. Not sure why Snarsky was off the pace tonight as he was impressive in his viper at Anderstrop?

Would have liked to be in amongst the masters next again week but sadly that will not happen


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Truetom on April 11, 2007, 12:07:40 AM +0100
I had 10 wing and I was quite satisfied with the way Massa behaved through the corners - while the tyres lasted, that is.  ;D
Qualified 8th and I saw a lot cars were close lap-time wise. Legends Bernie and Adam were within a second from me which was a good sign for the race.  8)
Race started and I was chasing Baracus. I was able to keep up 'cause Eccles and Kerr (I think) had a battle going on and they were slowing eachother down. Managed to catch Baracus at braking point with a risky  :scared: move. Sorry, buddy, that was the closest thing I managed to an overtake attempt.  :D  Your F575 was waaay faster on the straight, no chance there. Thanks for not closing the door.  ;)
Then I went to chase Zacari and we were close for quite a few laps. Never managed to pass, though.   :(  Carr difference was too big - what Massa gained through corners, his F550 anulled on straights. Great fight though.  8)  Guess this pushing was the reason that my tyres went worn quite soon. That sneaky (  :2guns: ) Baracus passed me on corner exit while my tyres were schreeching with no grip. Great move, my friend - the revenge must have been sweet.  ;D
At the end of the race Kerr was catching up but I managed to stay in front with some defensive driving. Two more laps would be the end of my tyres, so that's the lucky part.
Quite pleased with my 6th position. As an NGT boy at heart I'm still amazed how fast these GT cars can go. I have a lot to learn.  ::)

TT  


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: baracus250gt on April 11, 2007, 12:17:05 AM +0100
My polecat just walked on my keyboard and wiped out my post before I could submit it! Start again!

Great race for me. Really enjoyed it!

Was gutted I couldnt repeat my practice 2 time in Q proper (2.41.7 was here for me!) otherwise I would have been 3rd! But during practice before the race I noticed how much Silverstone works the tyres and decided then to go for med fronts and hard rears. Also it was my fisrt outing in the 575 which I actually much prefer the feel of compared to my usual ride of the 550. Think i'm gonna stick with her for the rest of the season even tho i'm probably shooting myself in the foot as all my hard work finding setups last year will have to be done again! It just feel so much more alive (and 15kg less haha) :-)

It was an interesting race - first half I just fell down the order - first a great move by TrueTom down the inside of me into Club (sorry for the tap, you surprised me!), then fell back down dangerously close to the clutches of the pack behind. My tyres came to me just as everyone elses seemed to fade so then I yo-yo-d back up the pack catching people very quickly. Had a very satisfying move up the inside of I think Zacari (?) at Bridge! A classic slingshot out of Abbey and tucked in to hug the curb at Bridge :-) I even started thinking I could catch 3rd again but I would have needed another couple of laps at least!!

I do like the way GTR's tyre charecteritics play out so subtly but noticably in our races... shows how well we are all driving.

Grats podium... (so close yet so far) :-D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Kerr on April 11, 2007, 12:36:06 AM +0100
Everyone better get practicing their pistops, as it looks like it will come down to that for endurance


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Paul968 on April 11, 2007, 12:53:18 AM +0100
The missus decided that getting back at 7.30pm after a day out with the kids was no problem, since I could do all the cooking for dinner. No problem normally since I like to cook, but she forgot to ask if I had a race  ::) We finished eating at 8.29 on the lounge clock, so I trudged upstairs expecting to find the server full. Amazingly there were 2 places left, so I quickly joined in practice 2, loaded my best guess at a race setup and went out for a few laps. I wasn't that fast and others were clearly much quicker, but I assumed they were just trying out a qual setup. As time went by it gradually dawned on me that something was wrong - I was still right near the bottom in the standings despite some decent laps. I ducked out to the pits and checked the monitor - sure enough, there were only 8 minutes left of QUALLY TWO !!!!!  :eek:

I quickly took the fuel out, put soft/meds on and went out to set a time. Unfortunately I sucked big time on the first 2 laps, and only managed 10th in the end with rear tyres at 230F. In the race I was following Picnic, who was pretty quick in the first part of the lap but slower later. I could never get close enough though, so I had to be patient. Pete then made a mistake at Stowe, I got down the inside at the vale and proceeded to mess it up big time and overshoot. Simon nipped past as I recovered, but things went downhill rather quickly from then on. My rear tyres were hot though not silly, but the back end was becoming increasingly mobile. I was struggling to get the power down everywhere, which was frustrating since this is one of the advantages of the Saleen. I lost one or two more places before a big power oversteer spin at Beckets told me that my setup was utter rubbish in a race and that retiring was the best thing for everyone. The lesson learned is not to jump into a 40 minute race in a Saleen with no setup and little practice. At least I should be better prepared for the endurance race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Paul Richards on April 11, 2007, 08:01:30 AM +0100
Hadn't driven round here at all until 7pm last night. Got a pretty good qual setup on Soft-Med and managed 11th on the grid. In fact the tyre temps were so good I decided to stay on Soft-Med for the race. BIG mistake!  :D  Started and Shark was pretty racey from the off and I managed to snatch the rear brakes trying to hold him off and round I went. Waited for the entire field to pass (for some reason, I noticed it on the grid initially I could only see 4 cars behind me in the mirror or in front while facing the wrong way - will check settings). Made my way back through the field - thanks to all who let me past, Edam, Buckie for example. By the time I managed to catch up with Bernie my front tyres were shot! I still was slightly quicker over the course of the lap by couldn't keep up through the fast corners to get a run down the hanger straight. Apart from one dodgy stab up the inside (sorry Bernie completely mis-judged the braking zone and with my lack of practice was using solely the black areas on the track) never got alongside. Going to miss the enduro as off to Florida next week but might make next Tuesdays GT2 if I can get in as a reserve. Congrats to podium.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: jan duijs on April 11, 2007, 08:29:17 AM +0100
It has been a while but i had a DISCO  >:( about half way in the race ,

Jan


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 11, 2007, 08:32:42 AM +0100
I was on 9 wing for qualifying, but dropped it one notch to 8 for the race to try and help against the Fezzas (which it didn't lol). I think mainly it was due to the long straights at Silverstone as the Lambo was definitely quicker through the corners, there just aren't enough of them. As I said, swings and roundabouts as long as all the circuits aren't fast ones like Silverstone.

As Freq says it's more fun going faster round the corners than the straights and I really enjoyed stepping into my old Lambo again for the first time since GTR1 (that I can remember).

GT1 cars definitely need more thought in how to drive them in a race than GT2s. I have to tone back my driving more than GT2s in the race to keep the rear tyres under control. I don't tend to race all out anyway, because it's more important to keep a consistent pace throughout the entire race than be quick for 5 laps, have your tyres overheat and wear out and then be really rubbish for the rest of it. It makes for a much more drivable car and ultimately better position.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: EdamSpeed on April 11, 2007, 11:00:35 AM +0100
The lesson learned is not to jump into a 40 minute race in a Saleen with no setup and little practice.

That's a lesson I still haven't learned either! In fairness though, I very rarely have any time for serious practice.

Sorry if anyone caught the big cheesy chicane last night - my setup was laughable. I really shouldn't fiddle without practice time, or for that matter still be eating kheema on the start grid after missing most of quali, then finding out I hadn't set the brake ducts up at all, and the brake temps were almost going below zero on the Hangar straight :D :D :D I pretty much had to brake half way down the straight, or I would have ended up in Dadford (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&GridE=-1.02870&GridN=52.04260&lon=-1.02870&lat=52.04260&search_result=Dadford%2C%20Buckinghamshire&db=freegaz&keepicon=true&lang=&place=Dadford%2C%20Buckinghamshire&pc=&advanced=&client=public&addr2=&quicksearch=dadford&addr3=&scale=100000&addr1=)!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT1 Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 10
Post by: Munkez on April 11, 2007, 12:33:10 PM +0100
The lambo behind me made me fight for my 18th spot aswell was a great battle for end part of race, he was alot quicker in corners and had alot more grip but not enought to pass me and on the staights i started pulling away again.

Gr all, cgrats to podium

That was me and that was a excellent last 5/6 laps or so, always gaining through sections 2+3 and maggots, but to be blasted away down the straights!! I was hoping the pack on the last 2 laps may have given you more of a problem, but no, you drove defensively and held me off more than a few times, well done!!

Munk