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Title: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 06, 2007, 09:34:16 PM +0100
Practice 1:20:15(10 mins)full time drivers only
Practice 2:20:25(10 mins)reserves may join too when Practice 2 is shown in lobby
Qual 2:20:35(20 mins)
Race:20:55(40 minutes)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT2 or GTC from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.3 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) (see this thread (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2228.0)).
Weather: Dry
Track: Silverstone ('Northampton') GP (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27); see this thread (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2990.0) if you have problems)
Race Start Time 14:00

Server: UKGTR GT2 GTC
Password: available from the event page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=352) (see the Show Password link under the announcement text)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=49)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers should remember that they get only one free changes of car in each series.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must selecte ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyones' connections will be reduced.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 06, 2007, 09:35:05 PM +0100
Just remembered to take the slash out of the server name. ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 11, 2007, 11:06:13 PM +0100
I won't be here for this one so there is one full-time spot available for a reserve "for one week only".  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Reign Man on April 12, 2007, 01:04:12 PM +0100
Ok, what times are peeps getting??

1:47's - 1:48's

C'mon.....depress me!  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Adam Parle on April 12, 2007, 01:18:25 PM +0100
Bit slower than that for me .... but it is in a Vertigo .... I'm looking at high 1:50/low 1:51's at the moment.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 12, 2007, 02:37:23 PM +0100
Ok, what times are peeps getting??

1:47's - 1:48's

C'mon.....depress me!  ;)

That's significantly quicker than the SRou NGT qually or race records (1:49.668, 1:50.815)!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Reign Man on April 12, 2007, 05:41:47 PM +0100
Ok, what times are peeps getting??

1:47's - 1:48's

C'mon.....depress me!  ;)

That's significantly quicker than the SRou NGT qually or race records (1:49.668, 1:50.815)!


Yes, that was with different Ballasts, I bet 1:48's will be common with the new, less weighty RSR's


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Madd-RIP on April 12, 2007, 06:14:16 PM +0100
 :( Rats, I'm working.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Reign Man on April 13, 2007, 01:50:19 PM +0100
:( Rats, I'm working.

Can you not feel an illness coming on??  ;) One that would require time at home for..."relaxation"


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Madd-RIP on April 13, 2007, 04:44:28 PM +0100
I will hone my setup to do battle with you in the Endurance, I only get half pay for being on the sick!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Jeffrey on April 13, 2007, 06:31:58 PM +0100
Ok, what times are peeps getting??

1:47's....

 :yes:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: LuKe#69 on April 14, 2007, 02:52:49 PM +0100
Dont think Im going to be able to make this one either,PC is still not fixed  :'(  >:(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Nevski on April 16, 2007, 09:33:59 AM +0100
The link to the championship standings page seems to link to the endurance clubman series for some reason  ???


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Fred Joseph on April 16, 2007, 10:01:02 AM +0100
I'm divided from doing this race and mounting my new pc components.. I have them tonight... maybe I'll have some luck and succeed on the first try ?? (new mobo, 2gb Ram, directx10 video card, core 2 duo 6600...) .... mmmm dunno....


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: picnic on April 16, 2007, 10:05:34 AM +0100
The link to the championship standings page seems to link to the endurance clubman series for some reason  ???

Which link Nev? Seems ok here https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=49


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Zacari on April 16, 2007, 02:20:06 PM +0100
I think he means the 'championship standings page' link in the first post, it should be ...&group=49 and not ...&group=51 :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: picnic on April 16, 2007, 02:25:23 PM +0100
Took me ages to find that  :-[ Fixed now


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: baracus250gt on April 17, 2007, 08:12:46 PM +0100
Really sorry for not being able to join this race and the short notice! I have been trying to fix a network problem here but I give up!
The whole of the downstairs is knocked out and I cannot figure out what the problem is - can't get DHCP but nothing had changed so I don't get it!

Have a good race!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: silver53 on April 17, 2007, 09:11:42 PM +0100
Hi discoed my at start hope everyone past ok see you next round gerald. ps it wasnt this end as network router lights were still active


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: lincescom on April 17, 2007, 09:12:28 PM +0100
 Hi,

 I tried to get in, but the game was going down every time it started to loading the other cars. ???
 I don't know what is wrong... :-[ :'(

 Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: ginsters sponsored on April 17, 2007, 09:20:56 PM +0100
Looked like fun :). Couldn't really race as PR was lagging/warping horribly and sorry for resultant crash mate. Maybe a TS channel to warn people of such events would be a good idea? Sorry for breaking race silence but it would have been carnage if the fastest came up to lap him.



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: pribeiro on April 17, 2007, 09:52:57 PM +0100
I´m so sorry for lagging SBG :hang:

I found, that my daughter was uploading something in her PC (i have both PC´s
with the same wireless channel) :cursing: I put her already at E-BAY for sale :devil:
I asked her to avoid be in net while im racing, but she forgot :censored:
I will make sure, that never happen again (before every race, i will brake her PC) :eek:
Now, seriouslly, it will never happen again....i really hope so :shifty:
By the way, i ended race with my car up side down :o ::) :'( >:(
Great pace you guys are doing :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien:

See you next race (no lag promise) :-[

Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: linco24 on April 17, 2007, 09:55:35 PM +0100
Tyres tyres tyres!!!!

Apart from having no grip for the most part it was a great race. Thanks to MJ and James for the great race. Could have been a 4-way battle if Darren didn't spin out in the early stages. Managed to get up to 8th and then stuggled on tyres big time. Choose a medium/hard set-up thinking i'd be safe. Temps were fine but grip was limited. Lost it and gave my place to MJ and almost to James too. Felt quicker in a few places than MJ but could never get close enough to pull a move. After all the pressure in the first half, I tried to give some pressure in the 2nd half.

But pleased with 9th and it was a very enjoyable race. Even though I fought with the RSR most of the time!

Colin 8)



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: pribeiro on April 17, 2007, 09:57:43 PM +0100
Hi,

 I tried to get in, but the game was going down every time it started to loading the other cars. ???
 I don't know what is wrong... :-[ :'(

 Cheers

So, you must be the Neverplayerusedname guy tha we saw trying to join server. :o
Sorry to hear your join problem Lincescom.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: ChOnG on April 17, 2007, 09:58:19 PM +0100
amazing race.

Qualified 14th with a bad lap, was getting major badluck with traffic in qualy.Race started off ok but spun at last few corners taking me back down to 20th :/. Joined again and started clawing my way back with some great battles along the way best of all being with Mclean, sick of seeing the back of your car now :D We had a great battle with a tvr aswell cant remember who one point we where 3 wide going into corner with me stuck in middle, decided to back out  ;)

Mclean eventually took the tvr with a great move which he had been trying for that past 20laps LOL, then i got stuck behind the tvr for a good few laps getting close enough to take him but he defended the corners well. Eventually he spun off into the wall with only a few laps remaining so after that i eased off to take 13th place.

Im still miles of the pace of everyone else but that race was the best and most exciting race ive done so far.

gr all and cgrats to podium.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: picnic on April 17, 2007, 10:18:46 PM +0100
Replay (http://ukgtr.simracing.org.uk/Northamptonshire%20GP%20GT2-GTC%20Spint%20070417.zip) and Provisonal Results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=352)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: DynoDaz on April 17, 2007, 10:40:30 PM +0100
Could have been a 4-way battle if Darren didn't spin out in the early stages.

It's a big shame I spun out early. The race was looking very promising during the first few laps.  I was sizing up MJ at every corner, but there was no way through.  Then coming out of turn 1 I clipped the curb and found myself at 90 degrees heading straight towards a wall.  :no:  I've put in hours of practise and have clipped that curb many times, but have never lost control. I guess I've been lucky.  :P

I came back on the track with slight aero damage just in front of the GTC podium battle.  I wasn't fully up to speed so I eased off to let them through.  This was a big mistake, because I found it almost impossible to overtake due to the excellent driving of Reign Man and Nev.  :thumbup1:

After eventually getting by Reign Man I tried to put Nev under pressure, but it was me that folded first; putting a tyre on the grass while under braking.  :cursing:  Unfortunately I stopped dead straight in front of Reign Man leaving him with nowhere to go but through me.  Sorry mate!!

This left me towards the back of the grid with even more aero damage.   :-\

Over the last 15 minutes I made up a few places coming home in 14th just 1.5 seconds behind Chong..

Great racing guys, it's just a shame I can't say the same.  :laugh:



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Reign Man on April 17, 2007, 11:00:55 PM +0100
Good Race!

Started 15th behind chong but he made a mistake early on letting me by, then for the first quarter of the race i was keeping pace with Neveki in his Mosler the gap stayed around 1 second until I began to close the gap, I noticed he was going wide on some corners so i hoped that he would make a mistake to let me through. I was right behind Nevski when we past the recovering Darren.

Obviously he was much faster in his RSR but I was still able to keep him behind me while keeping up with Nevski, but at around the half way mark I made a mistake and got a terrible exit from the second chicane, he past me and within a lap he was on the rear end of Nevski who had opened up a Small gap (around 2 seconds).

A couple of laps later Darren spun again (Not having a good one were you Darren  ::)) I and I ploughed into the side of him. Sorry Darren I was concentrating on my braking point and did not look to the apex of the turn until it was too late.

We both got going again just in front of Mark Mclean and ChOng. I think Darren must have spun again (Really wasn't your race was it Darren!  :o) cuz he was no longer in my mirrors, but I could see the two RSR's of Mclean and ChOng, I tried to hold em up for as long as I could but I had massive understeer and I was fighting the TVR as well as Mclean and ChOng.

Mclean got by eventually and a couple of laps later I took a close up look at a wall, (and a really nice wall at that!  :laugh:) giving up 13th to ChOng. After hearing Darren pass me I rejoined the track and carefully went round for the last two laps to the finish.

Really disappointed at going off and hitting Darren, but other than that, it was very enjoyable.  :)

See ya at the next race

Reign Man



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Mark J on April 17, 2007, 11:14:26 PM +0100
That was a cracking race, i couldnt rest from start to finish, pushing hard all the way. I thought i was in for a cracking battle with Darren and Colin as our times were pretty similar (within a few tenths) and i had finally done some 1:49.5's in full race trim with a setup tweak.
Qualied 11th in a fiercely contested grid and was reasonably pleased as a few tenths seperated several cars.

Race start went well, got a better blast from the line than Darren thanks to me being in 1st gear and slipped down the inside of him before turn1 and set about chasing Colin and James ahead. We had a great 4 way train going for a few laps until Darren went spinning off at T1 a few laps later.
I then sat within a second or so of Colin for about 20 minutes with James just ahead of him, really pushing hard but Colin drove faultlessly and i was wondering how i would get past him. Then James went off and we both moved up a place. Several laps later Colin made a mistake and i was able to scoot past up the inside to take 7th or 8th?.
It was now Colins turn to put me under pressure but i seemed to have enough on him to stay ahead. He would gain in some parts of the track but fall back in others and i was hoping his tyres were getting as tired as mine.
Felt very happy and relieved when i crossed the line ahead, even though i eased off a lap early thinking it was the final lap...could have been costly !
Great fun and good clean racing all round.  8)  :angel:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: DynoDaz on April 17, 2007, 11:33:09 PM +0100
Really wasn't your race was it Darren!

Definitely one to forget  :P

Race start went well, got a better blast from the line than Darren thanks to me being in 1st gear and slipped down the inside of him before turn1 and set about chasing Colin and James ahead.

I crossed the start/finish line and disabled the pit limiter, but quickly realised James and Colin were still using theirs.  So me being sporting/stupid (delete as appropriate) eased off for a second.  This allowed you to get the jump on me Mark.  Fair play to you...


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Nevski on April 18, 2007, 07:14:40 AM +0100
I practiced hard for this one, for two reasons. The first was that I had not driven the track until last week, and the second was because Paul968 had hinted that he might switch to GTC after the first race, and I wanted to still be capable of fighting for the win if he did. As it turned out, Paul continued with his GT2 campaign, and with the Sharks gone fishing my main opposition for this one proved to be the suprisingly quick TVR of Reign Man.

I managed a 49.7 to secure GTC pole in the Mosler by nearly a second. The cushion was big enough that I made a last minute decision to run medium tyres all around, after having spent all my time setting up the car with soft fronts and medium rears. That was a bit silly in hindsight, as it made the car understeer a lot in the first 15 minutes of the race. Reign Man took full advantage and closed right up behind me, applying increasing pressure for several laps.

I got lucky at this point when Darren had an off and his RSR and rejoined in the thick of my battle with Reign Man. After their unfortunate coming together, I had a comfortable cushion and was able to cruise the rest of the race on autopilot. Unlucky there Reign Man, you were going like a train. Congrats to  Ruskus on the GT2 win.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Paul968 on April 18, 2007, 08:59:12 AM +0100
Quote
and the second was because Paul968 had hinted that he might switch to GTC after the first race, and I wanted to still be capable of fighting for the win if he did. As it turned out, Paul continued with his GT2 campaign
Yes, sorry Nev, I was away for a long weekend and had not had much time for practice, and what with having to learn a new track a switch didn't make a lot of sense.

Qual went ok, and I was happy with my 3rd on the grid behind Ruskus and teamie Mo. I managed to avoid losing a place on lap 1 this time but lost out to Backo in his fast M3 at Stowe on lap 2, dropping me to 4th. He moved ahead to challenge Mo and I was left fending off Enzo until around half distance when he made a mistake and left me to concentrate on Backo. My only hope was that his efforts early in the race had worn his tyres out, and so it was to prove. The 3.5 sec gap started to come down with 10 mins to go, and with 2 laps left I was right behind. He ran wide onto the grass at Vale and I nipped round the outside at club to take 3rd back. My tyres were also pretty shot though by then, and the last lap was rather edgy as we slithered around. He got close into the complex at the end of the last lap, but not quite close enough to make a pass stick, so I kept the place to the finishing line. Congrats to Ruskus for the emphatic win and to Mo for a very consistent 2nd. Now, should I switch or not...?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Nevski on April 18, 2007, 09:14:56 AM +0100
Yes, sorry Nev, I was away for a long weekend and had not had much time for practice, and what with having to learn a new track a switch didn't make a lot of sense.

Yes, I guessed that was probably the reason.

Now, should I switch or not...?

I think you should, and not only to balance the two series out a bit better. It will also give you the chance to compete for wins on a regular basis, rather than just podiums. Plus it will help to keep me awake as an added bonus  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Paul968 on April 18, 2007, 09:19:44 AM +0100
With Ruskus and Claus around, a podium feels like a win!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Jeffrey on April 18, 2007, 10:52:57 AM +0100
Pretty uneventfull race for me, but in the first few laps Mo kept me on my toes as I couldn't drive away and the gap stayed small. When my front mediums came to a nice temp I could increase the pace a bit, but still the car didn't feel good with the meds.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Jeffrey on April 18, 2007, 10:55:05 AM +0100


Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Silverstone GT2 GTC 17-04-2007/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: mo on April 18, 2007, 11:15:22 AM +0100
Pity I couldn't make it eventful for you Ruskus ;)
Grats on the win and a great drive.  Once you settled in your pace was awesome and after a few laps trying to keep up I got some sense and backed off to retain the 2nd place.

A great overall result for the Kerbcrawlers with Paul finishing on the podium too, which puts us on top in the team standings in GT2  :fencing:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: BACKO on April 18, 2007, 01:52:41 PM +0100
Was amazing race for me in Silverstone!!!Be honest I didn't practice too much on this track with M3 but I know this track and I love it from others game!!!I started from 4'th and finished 4'th ,I could finished 3'th but I choosed wrong tyres and about 10 min  before end of race my car hadn't any grip (ice race),I've made lots mistace and Paul968 took it back 3'th position.Last lap was amazing chalenge with Paul968 about 3'th place,I really enjoyed that!!!Siya soon on track!!! :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 23, 2007, 11:13:58 PM +0100
Shame this has almost turned into a one make series. Why is everyone taking the RSR, is it really THAT much faster that the other cars are not worth considering?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Zacari on April 23, 2007, 11:47:46 PM +0100
Not that I'm driving ngt at the moment, but personally I think the Ferraris are handicapped too much.  The RSR is easier to drive on the limit imo.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Mark J on April 24, 2007, 12:01:00 AM +0100
i drive the RSR because i am a porsche fan, being that i drive one ! But as for everyone else, i guess many aliens have decided its a race winner, so alas the ballast removal has fallen into their hands  :( It drives a whole lot better without the extra baggage thats for sure. Perhaps all aliens should be made to drive the RS or Modena instead  ;)

Such a crap failing on simbins behalf to not sort the proper success ballast formula out.  >:(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Paul968 on April 24, 2007, 01:10:29 AM +0100
I think it's a bit unfair to suggest that people only take the RSR because it's the quickest by far. As Mark says, many people drive the Porsche because of it's heritage, although in my case it's because I enjoy the unique way that it drives. I'll admit that I struggle to make the GTC go as fast, but when I look at others who are normally similar pace to me, they are not that much slower. I am as quick, if not quicker in the BMW but it is not as involving to drive. Dividing the NGT class into 2 has also not helped matters, as a couple of drivers (like you Simon) would never drive a 911 but this time you are in GTC - not a problem, but a reason why RSRs seem more dominant in GT2. 


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 24, 2007, 01:30:03 AM +0100
Dividing the NGT class into 2 has also not helped matters, as a couple of drivers (like you Simon) would never drive a 911 but this time you are in GTC - not a problem, but a reason why RSRs seem more dominant in GT2. 

Not sure that's true Paul, I would drive an RSR, but I prefer the other cars like the 360, as Porkers are for girls.  :P ;)

Originally I really wanted to take Fezza GTC in GT2, but considering I couldn't even get it within 0.5 of a second of the tail end of the RSRs at the Anderstorp round in TimeTrial let alone online I couldn't see the point (and that was with a good setup and stable handling). Now I'm not an alien by any stretch of the imagination but I'm also no slouch and I would expect to be in the mix of the second half of the GT2 grid on time. So I decided that I'd rather have some competition and fun driving in GTC class with some of the rarer cars than pootle around at back of GT2 with no one to race when everyone else is in RSRs.

If that's the way it is no problem, I'll just carry on racing GTC, just a shame as i wanted to try the GTC Fez. I'm sure the GTC or even RS or Modena in alien hands could be driven a lot faster than me, but I did expect to be in the mix of some part of the field, even the rear-end. Not sure what went wrong with the ballasts (or in fact if anything has gone wrong) as it looks pretty good on paper still.

C'est la vie. No problem, just wondering the reasons behind all these RSRs. If people like driving them so much over the other cars that's perfectly fair reason to choose them. I know some cars some people just don't enjoy driving.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Paul968 on April 24, 2007, 02:01:23 AM +0100
I can't remember the last time I saw you in a porker Simon, but but maybe you find them too tricky to handle?  :P :P

I agree with you that getting a quick time from the GTC is not easy. When I did my testing for the first ballast pack I found the GTC very hard to exploit (and my previous NGT GTR experience was in the 360), but some drivers certainly managed to do just that. Because of this it would be wrong to give the GTC a lot less ballast, or we risk seeing the 'exploiters' disappear. OTOH I wouldn't object to a small adjustment (-5 to -10kg?) for the 360s.

I'm a bit surprised not to see more M3s on the grid though (including you).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Truetom on April 24, 2007, 08:10:13 AM +0100
I hate being a smarta$$  :smartass: but I was trying to voice relation between RSR and GTC at the start of S4 already.  ::)  I remember testing in Donington in S4 with various cars: M3 was the fastest, then RSR and GTC trodding more than 1 second behind RSR.  :(  I know it's easy to be a general after the battle, but I propose at least 10 kg off of GTC.  :)

Hopefuly I won't get the answer "In the right hands GTC is as fast as RSR". I hate that kind of coversation.  >:(   In the right hands even Elise could be in the GTC class.  :D  But it's hard to get right the ballast with different drivers. I guess this is the process without a final solution - we need to adjust a bit for ever season.  :)  By the time we'll get it right there'll be GTR3.  :angel:

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 24, 2007, 08:18:03 AM +0100
Part of the problem with the RSR is that it's driving characteristics are totally different to a 'normal' mid- or front-engined car like the GTC Fezza or any of the GTC class cars. The M3 is also totally different being much heavier and much more powerful.

The class split hasn't helped the RSR versus 360/GTC situation, but then I didn't expect it too. But it has helped those who wish to drive what are now GTC cars - indeed amongst those drivers the new classes seem quite popular.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 24, 2007, 08:23:00 AM +0100
I'm a bit surprised not to see more M3s on the grid though (including you).

Yes, well I used M3 last season and I like to keep things different for myself to give me a new challenge every season, rather than sticking to the same car all the time. That and the M3 isn't that fun to drive.



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Paul968 on April 24, 2007, 08:38:34 AM +0100
There's always the Seat Simon?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 24, 2007, 09:04:52 AM +0100
There's always the Seat Simon?

 :hang:
 :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Paul968 on April 24, 2007, 09:18:09 AM +0100
Spoilsport!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Truetom on April 24, 2007, 10:32:02 AM +0100
I think classes work well in S5 - ballast pack seems ok dor GT1, even Lister can be fast a Richard Nevski showed us in Silverstone. Seems Saleen, Lamborghini, F575, Lister and MC12 are on par, while F550 is still a bit too strong. Corvette and Viper are a bit behind.  :)

Don't want to be a judge for GT2/GTC class as I'm a reserve there and my attention is focused on GT1 class in this season, but I see Legends Racing dominate. Maybe other drivers are not so active allround and have heavy ballast that keeps them slower. :P

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Paul968 on April 24, 2007, 10:52:23 AM +0100
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Don't want to be a judge for GT2/GTC class as I'm a reserve there and my attention is focused on GT1 class in this season, but I see Legends Racing dominate.

That's an interesting new use of the word 'dominate' TT.  :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 24, 2007, 12:54:47 PM +0100
That's an interesting new use of the word 'dominate' TT.  :P

I think it was a typo, I think he meant "be dominated".  :-*


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Truetom on April 24, 2007, 06:24:52 PM +0100
Legends Vertigo rules!  ;)

GT2/GTC Sprint: GTC - Teams Championship:     
1 Legends Racing  35     
2 Team Shark       31         
3 Kerb Crawlers    15       

Endurance Clubmen: GT2/GTC - Teams Championship:
1 Legends Racing  34
2 Kerb Crawlers    21     
3 Team Shark      16

Endurance Clubmen: GTC - Teams Championship:
1 Legends Racing  34       
2 Kerb Crawlers    21       
3 Team Shark      17

  :angel:

Err, we won't get into GT1 sprint or endurance right now...  ;D

I got the feeling that Season 5 started more lively than Season 4. Seems like ballast pack did stir the things a bit, though I didn't like it at first. Sure looks nice to different cars on the grid.  :thumbup1:

TT






Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Paul968 on April 25, 2007, 12:22:19 PM +0100
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GT2/GTC Sprint: GTC - Teams Championship:     
1 Legends Racing  35     
2 Team Shark       31         
3 Kerb Crawlers    15   

Yep, one 5th place and one third is just unstoppable! I'm not sure it's worth anyone else turning up now, even if the other scoring teams have currently participated in one race each with one driver.  ::)

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Err, we won't get into GT1 sprint or endurance right now... 

...or the GT2 Sprint?  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 25, 2007, 01:40:22 PM +0100
It's an outstanding record, I don't know how we'll compete. :-*


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Truetom on April 25, 2007, 01:46:59 PM +0100
Come on, come on! More, more!  :D

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: cej on April 25, 2007, 03:26:13 PM +0100
the other teams might as well just pack it up and call it a day  :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Jeffrey on April 25, 2007, 03:31:16 PM +0100
Guess we need to bash Legends Racing now, as it's the biggest team  ;) and not Team Shark anymore  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 25, 2007, 04:19:56 PM +0100
Guess we need to bash Legends Racing now, as it's the biggest team  ;) and not Team Shark anymore  ;D

 :-X
 ;D ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Truetom on April 25, 2007, 05:45:50 PM +0100
If not the biggest, we are THE GREATEST!  :P

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Adam Parle on April 25, 2007, 07:10:42 PM +0100
Guess we need to bash Legends Racing now, as it's the biggest team  ;) and not Team Shark anymore  ;D

Which Team Shark???? Surely that's cheating???   ;) :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Simon Gymer on April 25, 2007, 07:22:11 PM +0100
Which Team Shark???? Surely that's cheating???   ;) :P

Sharks don't cheat, we EAT! 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 5 GT2/GTC Sprint - Silverstone (GP) - Apr 17
Post by: Adam Parle on April 25, 2007, 07:47:40 PM +0100
Sharks don't cheat, we EAT! 8)

Overeating makes you slow.....something refered to earlier in this thread I believe ......

....and have heavy ballast that keeps them slower. :P

 :P