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Practice 1:	20:15	(10 mins)	full time drivers only
Practice 2:	20:25	(10 mins)	reserves may join too when Practice 2 is shown in lobby
Qual 2:	20:35	(20 mins)
Race:	20:55	(40 minutes)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT2 or GTC from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.3 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) (see this thread (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2228.0)).
Weather: Dry
Track: Estoril
Race Start Time 14:00

Server: UKGTR GT2 GTC
Password: available from the event page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=354) (see the Show Password link under the announcement text)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=49)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers should remember that they get only one free changes of car in each series.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must selecte ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyones' connections will be reduced.

I'm off on a holiday, so enjoy it a bit for me as well!  ;)

TT

Be aware that we will be launching the server with 28 slots so please keep an eye out for anomylous behaviour (beyond the Legends' normal driving ;)).

I hope to join tomorrow if there is space for me. Looking to test out my new team colours!
Had a really nice set up for 911 bi-turbo only to see it's not available in team colours.

I'm in 911 rsr instead and happy with my pace since not a gt2 driver

I intend to be there, in the Team Oldie Mosler  8)

Disappointed with the new team already?

TC

 Hi  :),

 I'll be there if the game doesn't shut down...  :(
 I've missed already 5 races because of that and I don't have any idea for the cause of it.  ???
 If any serve has more than 12;14 players, when it starts lowding the players in the garage the game just  shuts down.

 I just hope that by the time I can join the game in practice 2 the number of players will be low  :angel:
 
 Cheers,

I have had no practice on this track so I am going to be well off the pace. I will get home from work around 6:30 - 7:00. so hopefully I will get at least some praccy in before the race.

Feel free to take the BiTurb if you want, doesn't matter that it doesn't have team colours.

I'm in a complete dilemma on car choice. I've practised every single GT2/GTC car available except the Morgan and I'm none the wiser. I really don't want to join the RSR party as it's boring, but I can do 1:38.1 in it, which is faster than any of the other cars by a long way.

I'm tempted to go for what I wanted to at the start of the season (360 GTC) and sod being competitive against all the nasty German cars :P , but then I could also carry on with the Mosler, but I'm not really enjoying driving it. I'm even tempted by the 350Z given that I should be able to drive it fairly close to the Mosler with the massive weight advantage of ballast and fuel. Bah the choices.

Here are my times from all the unballasted versions of the cars in TimeTrial mode (yes I can drive the RSR faster than the M3 UNballasted that's how fast it is!!):

PORSCHE GT3-RSR 1:38.156
BMW M3 GTR 1:38.853
FERRARI 360 GTC 1:38.984
SEAT TOLEDO GT 1:39.638
MOSLER MT900R 1:39.993
TVR T400R 1:40.727
FERRARI 360 MODENA 01:40.742
NISSAN 350Z 1:40.950

(Yes, I've done a LOT of testing this week setting up the cars properly and so on, as I had some spare time for a change.)

Nah, it was a blessing in disguise. I'm now quicker in the other porker with a set up I got from the sharks site.

I'm sure there will be space for me tonight as the football is on, hopefully anyway

Shame on you :). I have fun in the Morgan and will try it again if I get in. No pracci as yet but I'm guessing it will be a bit slower than the vertigo times in my cack hands.

This is bad news. I can't break 1.40.

I'm in trouble.

Don't worry Colin, you always find an extra second come race time.  :P

Seriously annoyed. Tried to get onto the grid and kept appear 'in the earth' way under the grid with a grid position -1. Kept escaping and trying again but it wouldn't fix >:(

Hope I didn't cause anyone harm.

Good scrap with Ginsters, Picnic and finally Gerald.  ;D
OK ish quali, not enough practice on my part in the Morgan tbh, but Motec data from this race should help for Sunday.
Threw it off the track way to many times tbh >:( it's not a favourite of mine but hey, still a good scrap.
Grats to the podium btw, well done.  ;D

Had great fun chasing Jeff for most of the race. I was at 100% but just couldn't close up on him. In the end I was lucky his tyres were wearing more than mine and his back end gave a massive wiggle allowing me to pass. I think it had to be something like that because I wouldn't have got past any other way. Great racing mate 8) So fast and consistent 8) Nice racing all :)

Qualify: I set my best time in estoril :)

Race: At start i touch pribeiro ( sorry mate), and we both go to the last places of the race, and them start clibing.

        In the end i touch Paul968 two.

good race all

Great race,in Qualy 5 or 6 guys within 0.2 sec and then in the race i had a 0,038 "'gap'  with Barracus to get 7th,so close but you cant afford 1 little slip, thats the backside of it :laugh: Thanks all and especially Barracus for a super race

Jan

Replay (http://ukgtr.simracing.org.uk/Estoril%20-%20GT2%20GTC%20Sprint%20070501.zip) and Provisional Results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=354)

Grats to Jon on the win  8)

Uneventful race for me qualifying in 3rd and finishing in 3rd. I couldn't keep pace with the front runners in the opening laps but managed to hold the gap at 7secs for the rest of the race, prolly because they were scrapping and slowing each other.

Only bit of action was breaking my accelerator pedal in half during qual, sore right foot now but still enjoyed the race and happy I was able to adapt my driving style after a 3 or so laps.
Now, where did I leave the super glue?

Hi b***ger did it again but to much rear brake this time threw it in the barriers trying to out brake the morgans . think It would have been into the 42.8's without the mods to front end. never mind better luck next time.cheers gerald

Disapointing turnout considering that's only the 3 race of the championship but that didn't detract from providing a cracking race for me. I had not done any practice here in GTC let alone the Morgan but decided to take it for variety. My qually consisted of going out with my race setup to get some practice, couldn't get any tyre temperature so I dropped the pressures a bit just before race start.

Did seem to help but I still had a few hugh slides and only just got the front left up to 80 during the race.

When I got to the grid I was surprised to see 2 Morgans on the grid in front of my, not that they were in front but that others had taken the Morgan ;) SbG and Mad-Ripp. I was hoping that as I qualified with a race setup I might be able to compete a bit until my wayward backend would catch me out. SbG led the group for a few laps until Mad got passed and started to eek out a small gap. That went when he ran wide somewhere and let SbG and myself through. I made a couple of small errors, too much grunt out of the corners, and lost a bit of time with the recovering Porkas coming through but always managed to close the gap back to SbG but couldn't get a run down the straight to get passed. Well chuffed to make a move stick in the end between T3 and 4, took 18 or more laps to do it :)

Great racing SbG, hope you enjoyed it too. I got the impression my tyres lasted better and in the end this is what enabled me to get by.

Last minute choice to join tonight and delighted I did :).

Great race long battle with Picnic and Madd. Highlight had to be when picnic slammed the door on both of us as we tried to sneak up the inside, only shame was madd went off avoiding us :-\. Amazingly close racing with no incidents. I dont know why my car was a mess through that chicane (a setup/practice might have helped ;)) but twas very tricky trying to hold you up there, and that was a great pass there Madd.

Congrats to Picnic for being the fastest wooden/great sounding car :). Will you both be doing that again, cause I quite fancy it.

With Simon accepting inevitable defeat for the Evil Shark Empire at the hands of my Team Oldie Mosler, and defecting to GT2 I was wondering if there was going to be any competition left for me in GTC. As it turned out, Paul968 had gone the other way and defected from GT2 to give me a serious run for my money in his own Mosler. What's more, he banged in a 1:40.1 early in qually which really is a great time with the extra ballast in the UKGTR version of the car.

I wasn't confident I could match that in the time remaining, but late in the session I did get a blinder of a lap in and just nicked the GTC pole by 0.02 seconds. Sorry Paul  :P

Most of the race was uneventful for me, except for an incident early on with Darren's Porsche. I was a long way behind you approaching the braking zone at the end of the back straight, but suprised to find I was closing in at a rate of knots as I slowed for the left hander. So, I was forced to drive up the inside to avoid rear ending your Porka, and I believe we had side by side contact mid corner, which lost you a couple of seconds. Sorry about that mate, and sorry to hear a couple of other peeps rear ended you later in the race.

I was doing consistent 41s from there on for the bulk of the race, until with about 3 minutes to go I suddenly realised I was running at a fuel deficit of more than half a lap  :eek:  So, I had to drive the last two laps in a high gear using about half throttle. This just got me to the finish line before the car spluttered to a halt. Luckily, I had a big enough gap over Paul that I still retained 1st place in GTC.

This is my first win with Team Oldie, and is a present to this great bunch of guys for accepting me into their super cool Team  :laugh:

That's ok Nev, it happens.  After you, Paul and Mark all clipped me in the space of a few laps I thought maybe I was warping all over the place, because you guys are normally the fairest drivers on here.

Oh well, no harm done.  My lack of practise meant my car just wasn't competitive and you guys would have passed me eventually anyway.  ;)

Very surprised I qualified 4th, even more so to finish fourth as I very rarely go near GT2.

Just could not get anywhere near the cars ahead and could not see how to get any faster. Ended up in a race of my own for most of the race. Car felt very stable and nice until last few laps and the tyres suddenly turned to plastic and I was struggling big time.

Still, I'm happy with 4th in the circumstances and with my lack of experience

I could be persuaded ;) I was surprised there were so many free spaces on the server. No practice either and a horrid setup. When I campaigned the Morgan in S2 or S3 with Shark's setup help it was a lot tamer than tonight. But close racing is close racing ;)

No, you were just too quick for us (well for me at least).  :)

I managed to stay with TS Junior newcomer Brian (great job on your debut for the Junior team btw!) for a few laps, but I just couldn't keep that pace going and watch the footy at the same time. More and more I was watching the footy rather than the road (well done Liverpool my boys great job! ;D) and my pace slipped enough for MarkMc to catch me up. Then Mark sat on my arse for a very long time not able to get by, except for one time where I managed to re-pass as he over cooked his overtake. But I just couldn't hold out forever and my earlier advantage at Parabolica evaporated as my left front melted into the tarmac finally giving Mark, with 5 minutes to go, a proper run on me to take the place and speed off into the distance. For the first time in any race I'd gone soft fronts and medium rears (usually mediums all round) and this worked for the most part till about 10 minutes to go when the wear on the left front was just too bad and where I had the advantage of softs it went with lack of grip on the worn tyre. Good battle Mark, fair play to you.


LOL. To be honest I always wanted to drive the GTC Ferrari from the first race. After a lot of contemplation I finally decided to just drive what I wanted and sod what everyone else was driving. The extra practice this week really paid off. Something I've not really had much chance to do for ages and was very very pleased to get 5th on the grid it meant it had been worth while.

Well done Jon on your win and Nev in GTC.

When we've seen problems like that before it's been because the person involved had a less than 100% connection. With only 20 on the grid it seems like the most likely explanation. ???

If turnout stays low I might just dust off the 350Z and see what it can do in GTC... Pity there isn't a Vertigo underground in the sprints. ;)

When I got home from work last night my connection was off on my Livebox. I disconnected and reconnected and it was fine. That was at about 6pm. I'd been online practising since then.

I'm really annoyed becuase I felt fast around Estoril and with the low turn out, I may have scored some good points. No doubt the Endurance will end up a nightmare now.

Lost connection again for me. It seems strange that so many people have started experiencing these problems. Are the phone lines so bad?

TC

It's the state of Britain's poor network infrastructure. It's unfortunate that it's mostly only the south-east that can get Cable as it's rock solid non fluctuating speed fibre network is light years (no pun intended) ahead of the crappy BT network that provides most of you with ADSL. ISPs simply trying to put more down your BT phone line that it can take.

I decided to swap to the Mosler in GTC to get more 'racing', and that is exactly what I got in the first part of the race. After Nev pipped me in qual I was left right in a bunch of RSRs. On lap 3 Nev had some contact with Darren who slewed sideways in front of me and I couldn't avoid hitting him  :( He kept the place but then braked earlier than I expected at the next corner, where I locked up and somehow missed him down the inside, taking the position. I spent the next few laps fending off first Darren and then Mark J before Mark got past, and then Darren again - hard work in the Mosler but good fun nonetheless  :) Fighting 2 RSRs for lap after lap though had taken its toll and Nev by this stage was gone, but I pushed as hard as I could to stay in touch with Mark. The gap stayed at 2 secs until about 6 laps fromthe end, when my tyres were shot and I had to back off. Gomes Silva was then closing fast from behind, and he caught me just before the start of the last lap. I ran a bit wide, realised too late that I was going to need to much curb on the exit and Gomes got caught out as I slowed suddenly, tapping me into a spin. Not his fault as he would have been unsighted from the curb, but it lost me what was to be precious time. Gomes courtiously waited further on to give the place back, I flashed to say no need and in the process PRibeiro nipped between us! We were then side by side round the next corner, Gomes passed us both using the old 'lockup the brakes and slide down the inside' trick, and I just managed to hold on to the finish line. Looking at how much time Nev lost due to low fuel it would seem that I might have grabbed the win without the last lap problems, but that's racing  :)

One small moan about qual - If you mess up your own lap, please don't hold up someone else on a hot lap. This seems to happen quite often and there is no reason to keep pushing if you have already spoiled your chance of a good time.

Congrats to Nev and Jon for their wins. Nice to see a different face on the top step for a change.

[Edit] Just to add Darren that you were not warping at all for me. I'm certain I couldn't have avoided the contact but if you think I could then please pm me.

 Hi  :),

 Once again my game didn't want to cooperate, I've tried a few times to get in but.......... :'(

 Cheers,

Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Estoril GT2 Sprint 01-05-2007/index.html)

Real shame to hear so many with technical difficulties. I can offer no help but please stick with it chaps.


However, theres is a bit of a Morgan cult  :). A few more wooden disciples would be welcome.

Hi Tom,

I'm having to reply to your PM here, because it won't let me reply to you direct due to the quotes in your name.

It was a tough race. Paul pushed me hard in the first 3 laps, and I nearly ran out of fuel in the last 3 laps  ;D  It was really nice to be able to drive a Mosler with such a cool new paint job though, so thanks. Oh, and if you do buy the trophy cabinet, I will do my best to fill it for you  ;D

Sorry to hear about your connection woes. I've never had a problem with Telewest Broadband, but its a cable service providing a steady 4 MB link. Now owned by Virgin Media.

Another odd one for me for pace on race night, i cannot fathom out the difference. I was banging in regular 1:39.6's in practise in qually setup and the car felt pretty quick if not uber. Simiarly, my race setup in praccy was indicating regular 1:40mids to 1:41 lows so felt good for the event.
But on race night, it was another story :(  I had a dismal qually, only managing 15th on grid with a 1:40.4 putting me down with the Moslers. ???
Then from lap 1 the car setup felt pretty awful and a handful. I cocked up my start big time by getting all fingers and thumbs and changing gear instead of releasing the pit-limiter which made for a very tardy get away  ::)...sorry to Tinman who got stuck behind me.
I then had a couple of very scrappy laps until i got into a rhythm and could start chasing Pauls mean sounding Mosler.
I watched a big tussle between Darren ahead and the two moslers, wheel banging each other through the infield and decided to sit back and see if they took each out but nowt happened. Darren dropped back and got a bit ragged up through turn 3 and seemed to slide from outside to inside on the exit and i think i may have given him a slight nudge as i took my normal line and saw his car oversteering up the straight.
Next target was Pauls Mosler which after a few laps hard chasing i managed to outbreak cleanly down at Turn1. It then took me quite a few laps to shake him off my tail with that menacing grumble (the car, not Paul ;D) and finally i built up a 4 sec gap after putting in a string of 1:41.1's. This also closed me up on Nevarn in his cool team oldie Mosler.
I could see he seemed to be struggling on worn tyres? and i caught him up at Gancho, where he kindly flashed me through (now know it was fuel) and i coasted home to 9th place, albeit about 13 secs behind 8th.
So not too bad a result but not great and still puzzling for laptimes.

Congrats to podium guys 8)

Like he said.  :)

TT

Sounds like it was a corker of a race, I am dissapointed to have missed it.  :'(

Good job guys.

Reign Man

Its a shame that isn't the same in the Masters Enduro, Reign Man and myself are quite alone :fencing:

Cheers. Next to no experience in GT2. I took part in the fun races after the end of last season and was useless to say the least, other than a fluke pole at Imola.

Started off with a set up from the sharks site and that made the difference for me. Added a Little more rear downforce and I was really happy with it.

Thought I drove well and I'm baffled how the guys ahead were so fast, very impressive. Normally you know when the car is rotten and you are making mistakes, but I just could not think at times how to gain any more time.

Not sure I will be able to(with her approval) dedicate any more time to GT2 over and above GT1, but I know with GT1 my pace seems to increase through time and practice. See how I get on