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Title: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 09, 2022, 03:35:11 PM +0100
Championship standings HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1882&theme=5)


Grid/server capacity: 22

Car/Track download available by pm to WT

Track: Willow Springs (Big)

Cars: AC Shelby Cobra. Chevrolet Corvette.

Car restrictions: Drivers must change car make for 2nd race.

RACE ONE
Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (10 mins) Drivers must not leave qualifying to change car make.
Race: 20:30 (15 laps)

RACE TWO will follow, with same rules

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Not required

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 09, 2022, 03:41:41 PM +0100
A couple of races inspired by this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmoqqb0eEVg

EDIT: Seems I ran a similar event Jan 2020, so the film makers could have been inspired by us  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Huggy on August 20, 2022, 11:06:01 AM +0100
I've installed the car pack for this one, and while the Corvette loads OK, when I try the Cobra it crashes the game back to my desktop. Anyone else tried yet?   


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 20, 2022, 11:27:40 AM +0100
I've installed the car pack for this one, and while the Corvette loads OK, when I try the Cobra it crashes the game back to my desktop. Anyone else tried yet?  
Hi, I am aware of one other who is getting the same problem. I have asked them to make me a trace file so that I may find out what's missing/wrong.

Please read this https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13381.msg241379#msg241379 and pm me the resulting Trace.txt file.

EDIT: I may have found the missing file!

Please download this https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fGNJuobz4OaOlLiM1snRlogBFsyNewBl/view?usp=sharing and put the file into each of the three CAR folders (you will see a file already in the correct folder called AC_COBRA_CPIT.gtl).

Let me know if this fixes the CTD please.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Geoffers on August 20, 2022, 04:10:55 PM +0100
I presume it is the 260 Cobra & default 65 Corvette we are using.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 20, 2022, 05:39:02 PM +0100
I presume it is the 260 Cobra & default 65 Corvette we are using.

Correct  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Huggy on August 21, 2022, 10:07:50 AM +0100
I've installed the car pack for this one, and while the Corvette loads OK, when I try the Cobra it crashes the game back to my desktop. Anyone else tried yet?  
Hi, I am aware of one other who is getting the same problem. I have asked them to make me a trace file so that I may find out what's missing/wrong.

Please read this https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13381.msg241379#msg241379 and pm me the resulting Trace.txt file.

EDIT: I may have found the missing file!

Please download this https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fGNJuobz4OaOlLiM1snRlogBFsyNewBl/view?usp=sharing and put the file into each of the three CAR folders (you will see a file already in the correct folder called AC_COBRA_CPIT.gtl).

Let me know if this fixes the CTD please.

No luck here Tony, still crashes.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 21, 2022, 11:13:22 AM +0100
I've installed the car pack for this one, and while the Corvette loads OK, when I try the Cobra it crashes the game back to my desktop. Anyone else tried yet?  
Hi, I am aware of one other who is getting the same problem. I have asked them to make me a trace file so that I may find out what's missing/wrong.

Please read this https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13381.msg241379#msg241379 and pm me the resulting Trace.txt file.

EDIT: I may have found the missing file!

Please download this https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fGNJuobz4OaOlLiM1snRlogBFsyNewBl/view?usp=sharing and put the file into each of the three CAR folders (you will see a file already in the correct folder called AC_COBRA_CPIT.gtl).

Let me know if this fixes the CTD please.

No luck here Tony, still crashes.
I need to see that trace file guys.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Geoffers on August 21, 2022, 07:16:41 PM +0100
Worked ok for me without the 'missing' files.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Huggy on August 21, 2022, 07:52:56 PM +0100
Still nothing doing Tony, and at present I'm getting "car not present on the server" for the Corvette too, which didn't happen before.  As the a "Trace" file, following the instructions earlier in the thread, if I right click mon my GTL icon on screen, there's no "TARGET" box, possibly because it's a Steam version that it points to?  I don't know enough about it so only thing I can think of.  Might sit this one out, as I'm really running out of time to get anything set up and do any laps before the race tomorrow, sorry.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 22, 2022, 10:55:38 AM +0100
Still nothing doing Tony, and at present I'm getting "car not present on the server" for the Corvette too, which didn't happen before.  As the a "Trace" file, following the instructions earlier in the thread, if I right click mon my GTL icon on screen, there's no "TARGET" box, possibly because it's a Steam version that it points to?  I don't know enough about it so only thing I can think of.  Might sit this one out, as I'm really running out of time to get anything set up and do any laps before the race tomorrow, sorry.
Ok Huggy, understood. I have a trace file from PaulSS and it would have been helpful to have compared it to yours. You can create a desktop icon yourself. If you find your GTL.exe file and right click on it, then select "show more options" (assuming your on W11), on the next screen you will find "Send to". Hover over this and you will see the option to "Desktop (create shortcut)". Click on this and you should now have a working icon on your desktop.

It would help me enormously to see your trace file at some time.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Erling G-P on August 22, 2022, 11:21:17 AM +0100
Are these (cars & track) the exact same as we used in 2020?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 22, 2022, 11:43:33 AM +0100
Are these (cars & track) the exact same as we used in 2020?
Corvette yes. Track probably. Cobra no.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Erling G-P on August 22, 2022, 11:54:28 AM +0100
Are these (cars & track) the exact same as we used in 2020?
Corvette yes. Track probably. Cobra no.

So it's the standard cars?   Or is it a new Cobra?

May skip this, based on 2020 experience.  A word of warning to those doing the races:  there are places here where even a minor excursion outside the track will end your race; the surface is so slippery that there's no getting back on track.  Happened to me in both 2020 races.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Geoffers on August 22, 2022, 12:14:01 PM +0100
It is not the same version of the track. This version is a little easier as there is more track furniture to give you an idea of where to brake & turn. Laptimes are around 6s longer than the track we used in 2020.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 22, 2022, 12:23:16 PM +0100
The sand is driveable here, just tested it. Also there is a wall/barrier around almost all of the track perimeter which is only yards from the track edge so if you do go off, you don't travel far.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Huggy on August 22, 2022, 03:22:09 PM +0100
Would love to help with a trace file, but just can't find a way to create one in my Win 10 / Steam setup. I created a direct icon to the GTL exe but still no sign of anything referring to "target" . Sorry.

Still nothing doing Tony, and at present I'm getting "car not present on the server" for the Corvette too, which didn't happen before.  As the a "Trace" file, following the instructions earlier in the thread, if I right click mon my GTL icon on screen, there's no "TARGET" box, possibly because it's a Steam version that it points to?  I don't know enough about it so only thing I can think of.  Might sit this one out, as I'm really running out of time to get anything set up and do any laps before the race tomorrow, sorry.
Ok Huggy, understood. I have a trace file from PaulSS and it would have been helpful to have compared it to yours. You can create a desktop icon yourself. If you find your GTL.exe file and right click on it, then select "show more options" (assuming your on W11), on the next screen you will find "Send to". Hover over this and you will see the option to "Desktop (create shortcut)". Click on this and you should now have a working icon on your desktop.

It would help me enormously to see your trace file at some time.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: EvilClive on August 22, 2022, 03:50:13 PM +0100
Just d/loaded and installed this pack.

Cobra260 runs fine and circuit is certainly a different version as Geoffers has commented.

@Huggy
I also got the "car not present on server" message when I tried the Corvette. So I checked the "GameData/Teams" download. I suspect that like me you have installed this pack from Tony over the top of an older install? NOT ALL of the Corvettes are available for these races. It looks like only certain Corvettes can be used? Check the car numbers in the download/Teams/GTC65/Corvette and make sure that you pick one of those.......then it all worked for me .


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Erling G-P on August 22, 2022, 04:28:49 PM +0100
Is it not just the standard Corvettes?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: EvilClive on August 22, 2022, 04:47:21 PM +0100
Corvettes # 801, 804, 821, 854, 858, 888, and 900.

These are the only Corvettes available for these races.

I had a couple of other Corvettes that did not work, presumably from another series download?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 22, 2022, 04:55:00 PM +0100
Corvettes # 801, 804, 821, 854, 858, 888, and 900.

These are the only Corvettes available for these races.

And these are all the standard Corvette's


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 22, 2022, 05:01:25 PM +0100
I created a direct icon to the GTL exe but still no sign of anything referring to "target" . Sorry.
Right click the desktop icon. Select Properties. Target is under the tab Shortcut.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Huggy on August 22, 2022, 05:44:46 PM +0100
I created a direct icon to the GTL exe but still no sign of anything referring to "target" . Sorry.
Right click the desktop icon. Select Properties. Target is under the tab Shortcut.

Gotcha!  Will PM it over directly. Managed to load an appropriate Corvette so may do one race, see how I get on.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Huggy on August 22, 2022, 05:52:40 PM +0100
Corvettes # 801, 804, 821, 854, 858, 888, and 900.

These are the only Corvettes available for these races.

I had a couple of other Corvettes that did not work, presumably from another series download?

Thanks Clive, good info :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: phspok on August 22, 2022, 07:43:21 PM +0100
2 Different installs, copied the extra files into all 3 cars
CTD every time with a Cobra from off line or on line

vehgfx.cpp   2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\GTC-65\AC SHELBY COBRA 260\#46 DAN GERBER 1963\..\AC_COBRA.CAS)
vehgfx.cpp   2552: Unable to read USERDATA\LOG\vehgen.scn: Error loading global material 873_AC_COBRA_CPIT04
vehgfx.cpp   2607: Could not find instance "SLOT000"

Ok, I tried with a 3rd install with no added files and it working at the moment


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 22, 2022, 08:01:26 PM +0100
Matt is online now so he must have fixed it???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Huggy on August 22, 2022, 08:06:07 PM +0100
Weirdly, although I can't load a Cobra, I CAN see other peoples!   ???



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 22, 2022, 10:06:22 PM +0100
Results and replay now posted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: SpecialKS on August 23, 2022, 07:11:35 PM +0100
Result_Race_1 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2022//22082022_WillowSprings_R1)

Result_Race_2 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2022//22082022_WillowSprings_R2)

8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 22 Corvette -v- Cobra - Willow Springs - Aug 22
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 23, 2022, 07:39:49 PM +0100
Result_Race_1 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2022//22082022_WillowSprings_R1)

Result_Race_2 (https://www.avonrise.co.uk/srou/kurts/_2022//22082022_WillowSprings_R2)

8)
Thanks Kurt  :thumbup1: