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Practice 1:	20:15	(10 mins)	full time drivers only
Practice 2:	20:25	(10 mins)	reserves may join too
Qual 2:	20:35	(20 mins)
Race:	21:00	(40 minutes)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT1 or G2 from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.4 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) (G2 cars will not score points).
Weather: Dry
Track: Enna
Race Start Time: 14:00 (rolling start)

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Aliens, please post your lap times in full race trim (endurance one, full load of fuel).

Hints on tyre and wing choice would be appreciated.  ;D

TY :)

C5R Time Trial I did a 1:27.5 qually lap, so I expect race trim to be around low 29's.

Hint on wing...don't go too low.

First post now updated.

you're sick  ;D

i'm on w8. what tyres?

your on w8? I'm in Michelins softs, meds for race.

I always though Ruskus was an alien and now I have confirmation by him self ;D ;D

I might feign some kind of desease, just to avoid being utterly humiliated.  >:(
Can we ditch this track in S6 please?  ::)

TT

I'm not going to feign illness ..... tonsillitis round 5 in 12 months here, time to whip 'em out.  I'll probably not be here tomorrow for that reason.

Erm, if I wouldn't be sure any Legend is unable to lie...  ::)

Sorry, Adam, couldn't resist.  :D   Get well soon.  :yes:

TT

I'll be there, hopefully without the PC issues I had last time! :)

I do think it was a cooling issue, 'cause I'd only just got around to sliding on the side of the case the day before.  I'll run with the gfx underclocked a little and the case open, so should be ok- though I'll jump ship if I get any lag.  A more drastic cooling method is only a few days away... :boat: :shifty:

I'm going to be posted missing. Afraid I'm off for some sun and even more drink.

Not sure if I'm allowed to take my PC pedals and steering wheel with me?

20kg allowance would mean computer and pedals and not much clothes though

I'm not gonna finish this race I think, as the Viper is a bit difficult to get through those tires ;D

Blinking heck Ruskus, 1:27's and 1:29's  :o...makes me wonder why i turn up sometimes  :-[
Amazing  8)

I've already wrecked a whole fleet of maseratis that i turned into somersaulting fireballs at that first tyre-wall chicane. Theres a very unhappy Sicilian branch manager looking very unhappy with me.... :whistling: :surrender:

I'm relying on my GTR1 knowledge of this track as practice as I won't have time for anything else today. I look forward to looking at all the crashes afterwards! ;D ;)

Than maybe you'll enjoy this video of the Simracing.nl race we had at Enna ;D:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4AHTpvuXKE

I'm even more scared now!  :D

TT

really not a fan of this track, particularly for online racing. Its too much of a lottery every lap as to whether you can survive without taking yourself out or getting knocked out the race by someone elses incident, particularly at the first tyre wall chicane.

Cant we implement a 'no-overtake' permanent yellow flag at this chicane like they do in FIA GT for a particularly nasty chicane? Otherwise all of us know it will end in multi car pile ups there and a decimated field after just a few laps...it happens everytime we race here. ::)

Personally i'd rather this track was dropped from next season and a better add-on track used instead.

I think the fans of Enna out-weigh the critics. It's a thrill ride.  :P

yup. endurance is going to be fun (and hard work).

Survival of the fittest  ;D

I'm hoping that seeing as we will have raced all the standard tracks (I think) in season's 5+6, S7 could be ALL custom tracks  ;D ;D

Monaco, Macau, Watkin's Glen...mmmmm

Enna can be soo bad in the closing stages (1 slip and it's gone), but it's awesome to qualify on  ;D

Hello all,

Long time no speak. I have very very little experience at Enna so I'll maybe just join tonight to make up the numbers.

Hope everyone is keeping well!

Colin

 :drool: :drool: :drool:

Monaco would be a laugh, especially in endurance! :o  We've only ever had 1 fun race at monaco in GTR1, would be good to have another there someday.

Not sure about all custom tracks though, I'd like to see a couple of the tracks used for S4 back on the calendar.

Personally I quite like Enna, there's always the potential to make up places right until the flag, where other tracks it's not like that.  It also punishes inconsistency, which is no bad thing.  Street circuits are good for that too, hopefully some will arrive for S6 ;D

Macau would be illegal and there is no GTR2 version of Monaco as far as i know. :P

There is a monaco for gtr2 but its not very good and an old layout.

Ive not done much praccy in the little break so going to take this one easy(nothing changed there).Im in the middle of downloading skinpack, hopefully be finished in time for start :D

Been addicted to FSoneF1 mod for rfactor for weeks now, so hopefully i remember my brakes are not as good LOL :D

Well that was short.

Lap 1, heading into the first chicane for the first time, taking it really easy on cold tyres, car seemed to be turning in, and then just when it was too late to turn left again and go through the gravel I realised I wasn't going to get the car turned in far enough and ran smack into the tyres, killing the engine and also taking my team mate Picnic out as well. :-[

I'm really not getting on well with these GT1 cars. :-\

Very short for me too!  Not paying 100% attention on lap 2 into the 3rd chicane, bang.  Shame 'cause a top-5 looked likely! ::)

My god im rusty lol, started last and made my way up to 12th place without overtaking anyone :D then 8mins to go my engine blew :/ Looked like some good battles out there between LEUVEN and Ruskus and also FreQ and cant remember who was 3rd.

cgrats to poles

ps: sorry if i held you up at last chicane LEUVEN, was a tricky spot i was in and tryed my hardest to get out the way :P

hhmm..... started OK.. held position, and slowly moved from 18th up to 9th (i think) until fish tailing and hitting the barriers at kurve 8 at about the half way mark :'( thought this was going to be a points finish for the team.. it wasnt to be  :-\

Looking forward to the enduro sunday now, thats where ive put the practice in!!

munk

Did a pb in qulai ......then forgot to put meds on rear, they didn't last too long!! plus got a stop go so it was just a familiarisation run for me tbh, still my eyeballs can stop bouncing now!  :D

Mixed feeling for me. Did a good lap in qually which was my PB in the Viper.

Race started okay, Leuven was pushing in the first few laps. After I while I got a small gap of around 7s. I then came around to lap Psuedo who was crawling on the straight, as he was recovering from an incident. So when we came to teh braking spot he had no brakes due to suspension failure and slammed into me. I flew off to the left into the wall. I thought my engine was bust, but I just stalled it.
I had so serieus aero damage so teh chicanes became ever more dangerous  :-\.

Finishing 2nd is good, but not the result I could of gotten.

1,2 and 3 for Team Shark :clap: . Bring home the team champ  ;D

My gawd, that is like driving no other track on earth. It's a totally different experience, barely feels like driving a car at all, more like holding onto dear life in a bobsleigh, with no brakes and the thing bouncing around on all the bumps and curbs. That was far scarier in GTR2 than I remember it in GTR1 and it was darn scarey then.

I'm still shaking now.

So what is the secret of setup round here? Soft or Hard suspension?

Well done Craig on the win btw!!

Enjoyed the race. Hadn't had much chance to practice for this but for some reason I only made 1 error and the GTR2 damage thingy must've been looking the other way ;D One triple sulko later I was on my way without any damage :) Had some nice little battles with TT,MJ and SBG but ran out of time to pressure Jure at the end. Pleased with 6th :) Grats Leuv 8)
Nice racing all

that was as hard as expected  :( Dont see how people enjoy this track when its a total lottery if you make it through the chicanes each lap  ??? You cant relax and just race someone.

Anyway, i survived  :angel:

Qualied about 12th i think, not matching my PB but was reasonably happy out of 23? places.

Race went well for first 10 laps, i made my way upto 9th and was going well with a big gap to the cars behind but then i started to get really hot in my room and it just destroyed my concentration for about 3 laps until i naturally cooled down again. But it cost me about 3 places and 4 seconds a lap  >:( :'(

Only had 1 real scare when i put one foot on the verge as i was braking for the first evil tyre chicane and i went sliding through backwards at full speed :o, managing to amazingly miss both sets of tyre walls and as i came skidding to a halt beached onto the kerb, Sharks Lambo flashed by within millimetres  :o...god knows how you didnt smash into my stranded car.  ???
Took me about 10-15 secs to 'rock' the car off the saw-tooth kerbing  :(

From that scary point on, i managed to settle and set a string of low 1:33's but too big a gap to the guys in front and i coasted around the last few laps trying not to hit anything to finish a final 10th. Not great but just surviving this place is an achievement.  :surrender:

Nice job to the pody guys, unlucky to Jeff to lose his leading place.

Tough race in the new Kerbcrawers colours. Qually went well matched my PB and started 7th with a 1:30.5. How the front runners get into the 1:27s I will never know!! Decided to take it easy at the start and just see what happened. Made up a place I think then made a mistake and ended up back behind Jan. Chased him for a lap and was slightly quicker but not able to get close enough to attempt a pass. He then crashed at the second chicane and I was able to strech away from Jure. He then closed up a bit and I clipped the first tyre chicane. Car did a 360 and didn't seemed too damaged.

Jure then chased again and I think it went down to about 3 seconds. He possibly had a moment as it went back up to 8 seconds again so I decided just to keep it steady. Made up a place with Baracus retiring so very pleased to finish up 4th. Away at Le Mans for the masters enduro which would be very tough! Might make the GT2 race depends if I get the car packed in time as leave the next morning.

Set me up nicely at the second chicane JM. Could see it coming but you were to good :).

Pretty hairy but dull race apart from that. Just stay alive/keep a safe pace, nothing exciting. Until someone blew their engine on s/f straight :D. Didn't cost me a place but scared the bejebus outta me.

Congrats Leuv, tough break ruskus and well done to Paul Jnr. KC reserves did ok :).    

my biggest appologies to Ruskus.....what timing....limped back almost to the pits with a puncture and busted suspention only to find Ruskus passing me at the apex whilst I was on the verge....there would have been no problem but, being on the grass the Saleen just wouldnt stop and I went sailing accross the track taking poor Ruskus with me.  :( :( :(

other than that, I enjoyed it....determined to finish....no matter how far behind I got...and managed that goal just. having said that though it would probably have been wiser for me to retire (therefore avoiding the above :'(), but didn't realise how bad the damage was till too late.

Cant wait for the endurance.....I'll be in a MUCH slower car and will be able to drive with my eyes open. ;)

Nothing you could really do there, apart from maybe brake a little earlier if you wanted me past you before the corner, if not then do as you did and wait until the exit.
One thing I did notice was that you came off the gas very early after the last part of the chicane (trying to hard to get out of the way I guess?)
Instead of accelerating out of the corner first then slowing down, thats why I gave you a little shove, as you caught me out by being very slow and coming across the track. :)
No harm done so it's no bother, especially as you were trying to let me past  ;D

Qually for me was not that good, as I somehow couldn't find my pace(must be the nerves as I'm getting older ::))
Not complaining though as P2 is not to be sniffed at. :)

Race pace was also lower than expected but was quite consistent, didn't hit one single tyre. :clap:
But made a silly little mistake by taking too much curb at T2(right hander at T1) and had a half spin, as was Jeffrey's pace it ended up costing me 4 seconds or more. :o

Quite happy with the win as I was expecting to be up there challenging for it. :)
But not happy to have won in the circumstances with Jeffrey having an accident :( :no: and even though I lost quite a lot of time behind backmarkers(through no fault of there own, though just the nature of the track) I didn't have an accident.
I guess its only fair as you've already won 4 this season Jeffrey, so it's time you shared a win. :P  ;)

Unlucky mate , I'm sure you'll destroy the Lap record at the Endurance. :)
A nice 1;2;3 for TS anyway, well done guys.  :jumpjoy:

Replay (http://ukgtr.simracing.org.uk/Enna%20Pergusa%20-%20GT1%20Sprint%20070605.zip) plus provisional Results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=299) and Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=50)

lol first time thats happened :o

Always try to finish, it shows character. That it ended up badly is just bad luck.
You were quicker than me, so it looked like it could have been a great few laps to the finish as it's quite hard to overtake at Enna.

I was right about the amount of laps, but why didn't I listen to myself as I finished with 26L of fuel  ::)

No idea Mark, you weren't the only one I missed by millimeters, I think TT, Munkez, Madd-Ripp and probably a few others along the way. :D :o

I put in what it said for 45 minutes in the 575 (I normally have a bit of a buffer) and finished with 28ltrs!

Well what a disaster, so far off the pace it's just embarrassing  :-\

If someone wants to send me a MC12 setup for mortals perhaps I'll make the effort for Sunday but otherwise I think I might sit it out. I know I'm not the quickest driver but I'm also not so bad that I'm really 6+ secs off the pace.

Yeah maybe, as I did get a good two or three times I think before I made a mistake, but I was no way gonna risk anything thats for sure.
I even remember slowly closing in on you after the last chicane, then you just started to edge away with that big 8L V10 lump. :o
We both should have listened to you as I finished with 24L. :stupid:

what wing were people running tonight? I had 2 and 8 but i was way slower on the fast sections than many  :(  Think i should have been on about 6 or 7.

I was running 2-7. I notice that some people use very low wing for this track, but it's a track that requires a reasonable amount of downforce. 2-8 sounds right to me for the Mass, but not sure.

Same, my setup was 2-8 and I changed it to 2-7 in practise, only to be sliding everywhere and spinning, so changed it back to 2-8. Dog slow on the straights but much safer through those fast chicanes!  :o

Very pleased/lucky to finish 3rd. Never felt with it all race/qualy as this is the first time I've touched GTR2 for 3 weeks, barring that brief race on Sunday. It showed too....51 seconds!!!  :-X
Had a race-long battle with Baracus (Monza all over again! ;D). No need to apologise about the first lap chicane - I saw you up the inside and decided that no way was I turning in, 2 cars just don't fit through there! Only lost 1 extra place anyway. After closing back on Bara, he made a mistake through Sec 3 and I got past on power, then less than a lap later I got Chicane 3 all wrong, losing it on the exit (thank god not the entrance  :scared:) and slowly sliding into the inside wall. Luckily it was only minor damage and I got going again.

As strange as it sounds, I'm glad I was behind someone for most of the race as it meant I could focus on closing instead of missing the chicanes. After slowly pulling the 4 second gap back in to Bara, he ran in a little hot into the first chicane and that was that. I doubt I ever would have attempted a pass there mate, it's just too nuts! Good dice though, our pace was very similar :)

Seriously gotta work on my setup/courage for the enduro, 3 seconds a lap is embarrassing  :P

Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Enna GT1 Sprint 05-06-2007/index.html)

Thanks FreQ - yes that was really good fun until 'that' moment! I could feel you getting closer after making a mistake off the exit of the bend before - and just dared myself to brake late (too late!) - but you are right, I should have realised you weren't going to risk it there!

I actually felt in a good rhythm in those later laps in 3rd but one moment of madness and its all over in a blink!

Again couldnt match my practice times before the race in qual (a second off!) - I think I just keep over driving that little bit when the clocks ticking. All in all the worst race i've had for a while form a personal performance point of view - and my first non-finish (I think!) which sums it up really!

Still great fun!! I love these games :-D

Don't give up Pete. 1:27s was nearly 3 or 4 seconds faster than most people in that field, so you're not as far as you think. I do think there is a lot in the setup to make it driveable as this is such a bizarre track I think there may need to be some bizarre changes in the setup to compensate.

I was running 1 - 5 wing as this is basically 3 straights and some daft chicanes. Perhaps that was wrong and I'm sure the suspension can be better as it was almost uncontrollable with the bouncing last night.

Lol, I think this was the first time that I actualy finished the race on this track. I hate it even more than Anderstorp.  ::)

Qualy was crap, I was 1 second slower than in practice session.  :D  When the race started I decided I must be stable and the field will thin out all by itself. I was quite right, as I gained 7 places without overtaking anyone. I botched it at some places but I would lose those positions anyway. Shark was closing at a rate of more than one sec per lap and though I could stay in front for another lap or two he would pass eventualy anyway. When my car started to jump around I was scared I'd take him out but he managed to pass by through the last chicane. I'd like to see that move through the first chicane, would you make it through there, Shark?  ;D

I saw JonM had some trouble - I think it was more a lack of practice. But it gave me strenght as I was thinking, if Jon has problems then I'm not that crappy here afterall.  :D   I was wrong, of course, but it doesn't really matter.  ;)

TT

Yeah dont give up!
My fastest lap was a 1.33 but due to being consistant and staying out of trouble (until around 55-60% completed and hitting a tyre wall, ending my race  :'( ) i had made it up to 10th!! Its not all about being fast.

I'm still under adrenalin rush from yesterday night, argh, whole body hurts.  ;D

Right. Wing 2-8, med-med tyres, Dubai setup as a basis (tweaked gearing, nothing else). Managed to tweak the tyres into 199-200kPa pressure area allround, although that left me with a bit cold front&rear right.

Did some low 1.30s in practice (while tweaking quali setup, trying to get tyre temp down and pressure below 205kpa) only to realise (in quali session) I did a much too thorough job, since soft-soft on 200kPa do not work miracles. They do @ 205kPa. Go figure.  ??? ;D

Anyway, P8 in quali, more then a second down on PB wasn't bad anyway, considering I did not manage a single flying lap without traffic. Argh.

Race started well, gained two places (via kind mistakes from other drivers  ;D), had a good initial fight with Paul Richards, Jan Duijs and FreQ (while thinking: hmmm, it's quiet, yes, too quiet, I'm on same pace as the big boys, something ain't right  ;D ). Pace was fine, even better, I've realised I'm eating curbs A LOT and feeling safer at it compared to avoiding them. Weird feeling, especially on this track.

Then I did the one thing one must not do. Following FreQ close on his exhaust caused a classic so-where's-that-chicane-entry-anyway-situation. See replay @532s. AM I ONE LUCKY B*****D OR WHAT?!?!!!!  ::)

Cooled down, got two "cutting track warnings from race director" because I eased off, braked early and messed up due to it. Typical. Slower pace had additional influence on tyre pressure (think ice age) so I've decided it's time to push some more (Paul was in trouble by then). Exiting Schumy chicane I left some paint and aero parts on armco and while still enjoying my position (P6, I think) I've realised there's a completely insane, high revving lambo with extremely high gear ratios eating chunks of time out of me. Had no idea who he was but I knew he must be one of the big boys, high gearing usually means master-coming-through-get-out-of-my-way. Yup, Jon Moore was back there. ;D

Tried to drive defensively (mistake) while praying for chequered flag (which, luckily, came rather fast ???. BTW, my stopwatch showed 38+ mins of racing. Something to be checked, was pretty sure we're going to do at least 23 or even 24 laps). In retrospective (after watching replay) Lambo isn't fast enough down the straights for any serious passing moves vs F550except if one messes up in front (like I did, watching the mirrors instead of racing line, sigh.).

Anyway, P4 was up for grabs but I blew it early in the race. Nevertheless, P5 is my best result so far in GT1 sprints and I'm happy with it.

Endurance will be carnage (Not to mention long-term weather forecast. Care for a swim anyone?). 8)