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Practice: 20:15 (15 mins)
Qualifying: 20:30 (20 mins)
Race: 20:50 (31 laps = ~40 mins)

Track: Hockenheim (Short)
Cars allowed: Alfa Romeo, Lotus Cortina, Mini Cooper
Time of Day Setting: 18:00 (see note 5)
Start: Rolling

Server: UKGTL TC-65 Cup
Password: available from the event page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=325) (see the Show Password link under the announcement text)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7).
(3) General information on the series can be found on the series home page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=48).
(4) The season will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.3 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27).
(5) Frame rates - Please test out your frame rate in dusk conditions before hand. You may be required to run with lights on if it gets dark enough to need them. Advice on increasing frame rates with headlights on is to reduce Headlight Effects in graphics options to Low and turn down the Shadows setting (in that order of preference for highest FPS increase). If you're frame rate is too low your car will be laggy and cause problems. Please ensure you have a good frame rate before joining.

Gonna miss this one as I will be getting back from a 2 day trip to Madrid, for EAA tests  ;D

Should be there in the Alfa as long as nothing comes up. Back to 4pm-Midnight shifts!

Time to give the Mini a blast I think seeing as it's on offer.

I'll be there, will be taking the alfa. Excellent car track combo. :P

What would be a reasonable FPS in this contex....I've just tested at around 65 so just need to know if this is considered good/bad/indifferent. :D

The human eye can only see somewhere between 69-73fps, so basically you have nothing to worry about

With or without cars?

Given we've had a max of about 20 cars, I would test to race up to 20 AI cars and if it can do that then you are fine.

Minimum I'd say 30, recommened is 40+

good thinking Simon  ???   just tried 22 cars at 7pm (so all lights on) and got around 35 average....dropped into high 20,s a couple of times but went back up to 45 after I broke my lights on a wall  :-[.

Should be ok then. Once the race is underway you only see a few cars at a time anyway.

Is that because you're so fast that no-one can keep up, Simon?  ::) :D :P

Cool, an evening race.  8) I'll be there in my Alfa

Hoping to be there and have my first race with you guys.  I'm not that quick but I do get out of the way okay! Looking forward to it.

Peter

Unfortunately I am attending a funeral the day after so will be travelling on teh Thursday and will be unable to attend. Picnic will be starting the server this week, hope everyone has a fun race. Remember ROLLING START!  ;D

There seems to be a practice server up. Where do I get the password?

HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2929.0)

Sorry you cant make it Simon. :(

Can't we have a standing start for these old TC65 cars? Its way more exhilarating and realistic. Surely with the lower numbers of regulars we now have week in, week out, we could start using standing starts more often.  :-*

How about putting it to a vote?

I'm in favour of it too - but if it's not possible, can we just have a standing start for Jonzo? ;)

Thanks Adam

We can review it for GTL before the start of season 3 (assuming there is one) along with the series format which apart from anything else I think we'll combine into one series to reduce the length of the season.

Simon - I know I am meant to take a slower car for the next round ;)

BUT... I really love the Alfa's - my fave - so pretty please do you mind if I take it?

Can compromise and start from the back if it makes it more interesting, but Stu and Matt are going to give me a run for my money anyway i'm sure!

Cheers,
Mark

Me too. See you at the back Peter.  ;D
Phil Gilliland

LOL, you can do whatever gives you the most entertainment Baracus. Starting from the back as a fast guy is always good fun, so maybe you could try that if you like. If you want to take the Alfa then please do, the choice is open to the listed cars for EVERYONE including you.

Hope to make it tonight, but gotta be somewhere after work, so will deffo make it if im back on time.

Looking forward to this one - is anyone taking the Mini out for a run, or will it be Alfa & Cortina dominance?

I'm planning to.

Hi,

haven't been around for a bit, summer activities took all my time. If I may, I'd nevertheless very much like to race with you guys tonight.

My favorite car on one of the top tracks  ;D

Of course you may, more the merrier  :D

Great  :)

I did a few practice laps, got within 0.8s of my personal best. Did 15 more practice laps and could not go below 1.5s slower then my old pb. Better not practice anymore, lest I start going in reverse  ;D

Argh, looks like my pedal board is done.

To whoever was in the yellow lotus that I spun out in the first race lap, sorry. My Break/Throttle isn't registering. They're cutting out while I'm engaging them, and I wasn't able to slow down in time and spun you.

When I was getting lapped on the 4th lap (lol) I was losing throttle in front of the leaders which isn't good cause I was slowing them down.

I had to drop before I caused a 50 car pile up.
I won't be able to race untill I get a new pedal board :( This would figure after I purchased the Microsoft wheel for my 360 this one dies out, and now the old lady won't be to happy that I have to buy ANOTHER wheel.

Peter, it was me that knocked you off on the first lap. Entirely my fault, sorry. If it's any consolation my PC crashed 4 laps later and that was the end of my - disastrous - first race!  :(

Regards,
Phil Gilliland (in the mini)

Well, I hope the rest of the field had fun.  Within the Legends Racing camp it was a battle royal!  Mistakes were the only thing allowing overtaking between MJ, Bernie and me - the laptimes must have been really close between the three of us.

To cut a long story short, I had the most mistakes .... and let both of them through (PRibeiro on the last flipping lap :( ).  Still, I fared a lot better than I thought I would have so not bad.

 ;D Mental fight with Assassino for virtually the entire race, made a mistake and lost lead to him when going past a backmarker(missed my braking point  :'( ......rats) and had to just keep plugging away,it wasn't easy trying to get back at Assassino 'cos we were lapping at similar speeds (ie almost quali times  :o ) Baracus was phenomenal tbh  :eek:, as soon as I saw him in rear view I knew he was going past  :surrender:, then Mike Hammer started to creep up  :sweatdrop: but I went as fast as I could in pursuit of Assassino and got on his bumper on the last lap to secure 3rd.  :thumbup2:
We just HAVE to keep GTL going!!! :thumbup1:

aye good fun battling you Adam and Bernie. I was harrying you no end and it took a fair few laps for you to make an error at that tight chicane.
I steamed ahead after that only to make the same error as you several laps at the same place and lost two blinking places  >:(
Got one back when i caught you and you made a second error there and tried all i could to chase Morten? in front but he kept it at a steady 5-6 second gap until race end.

Was actually disapointed to finish 6th, thought i would be nearer the front after quallying 4th.

Great win Baracus, you are a jedi master in an old car ! 8)

Congrats to Baracus and mike coming through the field from the back like they did. Great stuff guys, hats off to you for that one.

As Adam said quite a large dose of in team fighting for us, great fun all the way through the race.

Thanks to everyone taking part tonight, was a really enjoyable race.

Couldn't agree more Madd. Some great races over the past couple of weeks.

Replay (http://ukgtl.simracing.org.uk/UKGTL%20S2%20-%20TC-65%20Cup%20Hockenheim%20Short%20070621.zip) plus provisional results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=325) and standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=48)

This was the greatest GTL race ever. I'm finally starting to get the hang of this, not to win, but to fight a bit. At the end I realized I had set the coast diff too low, so I almost spun in most turns.

Sorry Baraccus for taking a wide turn a couple of turn before you spun me, but that's racing I guess.

Also sorry to you Bill, for pushing you a bit off track, rookie mistake :angel:

Really its me who should appologies to you Morten - u did catch me off guard a bit but I was behind so its my fault!! Also I was probably a bit too keen to get through anyway and should have been more patient, but "patient" was not in my racing vocabulary for today i'm afraid!!! That's what starting from the back does for your mental state! Not recommended hehe.

That was a majorly intense race from green to chequered!! I had decided to start form the back for a laugh, but that was before Madd-RIP got in to the server, then watching him get his Q laps done I was getting rather worried. I drove a single out lap on full fuel just to get a feel for how it would behave and it didnt really feel that much different - if anything it was a bit more stable in T2 and the complex.

Starting from the back I was really surprised how spread the field gets straight away even in these TC65's. Anyway, I was really pumped up from about 10 minutes before the race as I didn't want to drive stupid and take people out, my heart was going way to fast to be good and thats before the racing even started!!

I think that really helped my concentration though - I was just head down and focussed and got some good luck too with Hammer getting caught up in a multi-car blockage! That let me start to get a rhythm in some clean-ish air and I was up to P3 by lap 16 odd. So then I had 15 laps to get the gap of 7 seconds in front to Matt and Assassino down - but soon after I came accross a recovering Matt and snicked past only to run wide very slightly out of T2
and onto the dust! Nearly spun it there and Matt was back through! Great stuff!

Going into the complex (was it the same lap?) got him defending the chicaney bit so I could get a run on him along the short straight. Then closing on Assassino he had a 'moment' with a back-marker a few laps later so I slipped passed! Then it was keep it together until the end!

Definately the most personally satisfying race I've ever had and a big risk with these good drivers - but I'm not starting at the back again in a hurry hehe! I could only do that in the Alfas I think!

Rock On GTL!!!! :D

Thanks to all the kind drivers letting the race through when being lapped - very good driving. Unlucky with the pedals Jeb - that was particularly bad timing :)

No problem Phil. I was off line and I guess you braked a bit late. Was my first ever rolling start as well so I think I was more concerned with getting that right than getting the corner right. Had some great racing not long after with somebody in a yellow Cortina, great fun!
So thanks everyone, hope I kept out of the fast guys way okay. See you next week.

Heh, that was fun. It's been a while since I raced GTL, but it seems nothing's changed. I had fun, drove okay and, as usual, couldn't quite match Baracus.

I'm not so great at passing, but fortunately a lot of people decided to let me through, by spinning off the track! At least five people, almost in a row actually. I had to check the server replay to make sure I wasn't lagging into you guys, or causing it in some other way.

When I got to mgoran, it seemed he hadn't heard of the plan to give the entire width of the track to ol' Hammer, cause he don't see so good no more and needs the space :wheelchair:  ;D. I tried on the right side, I tried on the left side, but to no avail. I got the bright idea to stay glued to his bumper and then sort of slingshot past him into the tight hairpin. It didn't work so great. My apologies for the bump mgoran. I was going to let you pass me back, but you seemed to indicate you didn't want that.

Crossed the finish line exactly one second behind Madd-RIP, who in turn was right on the back of Assasino. Another five laps would have seen a good three-way fight for position, hopefully with me sneaking past as they battled it out  ;)

Thanks for another fun race, and congrats to Baracus for the win.

Sorry to have missed another race - busy at work. Also, I'm about to move house so will be without broadband at home for a few weeks - should be back on track mid July.

Have fun,
Stu

Pretty annoyed to have missed this one, my stupid ISP decided Thursday was its no-service day for me, couldn't get any connection, works fine this morning. >:(

Looks like a great race was had by all, and I've missed the last 3 weeks.

There'll be murder next week if my connection is dead again!

That was the best race I have had for ages. Thanks to all who participated for keeping the numbers up and helping in the decision about keeping this amazing league alive.

Qualified 7th but made a little error that cost me three places in the early stage of the race.  The rest of the race I was battling with pribeiro and mcclean. The driving was of exeptional standards and was all about little mistakes in determining our final places.

Mcclean made an error at turn one on lap 28 I think and I struggled to keep him behind me to the finish.

Excellent driving from the god of GTL once again to win from last place and congrats to M Hammer for his effort too.

Well done Assasino and Madd for the other podium positions.

@Mike --->   sorry ... I should give passage to you (like I gave to Baracus) ... I didn't realize your start from back ...

Wha? No way, you did everything right. I need more practice, need to improve my passing maneuvers, that's all.

That's OK.  I know I tend to brake early and take a different line than most of you through the corners, so I'm not too put out by a minor tap up the arse.  :oops:

Apologies to MadMac, you'd obviously had an incident and I tried to pass you into the left hander before the chicane and we clashed I accepted the responsibility and let you go back ahead.  :surrender:

Bill

How did Baracus win from 17th place?
See Videohttp://www.megaupload.com/?d=OFN3DHKT (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OFN3DHKT)

Another vid to come of the race.

 ;) Damn good vid of a damn good win.

Nice vid.

Here's the other one of the race http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9PED81HI (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9PED81HI)

Hope you like!

Next week...GTC-76 cars at Long Beach (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3207.msg52089#msg52089)!

WOW! Thanks Ossie - quality videos and i'm totally blown away by my 'race diary' one - don't know what to say mate! Thanks so much for putting that effort in - thats really nice of you. I'd forgotten most of what happened in detail so it was fun to watch it back! That trophy graphic at the end is sweet too! :D

Was very interesting to see how others got on too and how the race progressed. Top job and funny commentary!
Thanks again ;)  8)
Yours - Mr Chuffdy Pants

Excellent vid, very nicely done mate. :thumbup1:

I am ashamed of punting mgoran in such a "nasty" way. :-[
In defense of my character however, I must, again, add that I did wait up for him so he could take back 4th. Only took off when he made it clear he didn't want to do that.

(I'm a little sensitive about my own fudge ups, can't help myself, had to comment on this again)