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Practice 1:	20:00	(15 mins)	full time drivers only
Practice 2:	20:15	(10 mins)	reserves may join too
Qual 1:	20:25	(5 mins)	Masters may join too
Qual 2:	20:30	(25 mins)
Race:	20:55	(80 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT1, G2, GT2, GTC or GT3 from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.4 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27) (G2 and GT3 cars will not score points).
Weather: changeable, based on real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: Oschersleben GP 2004
Race Start Time 14:00
Pit Stops: All drivers must make a minimum of one pit stop. This must involve entering the pit lane at the speed limit, and coming to a complete standstill in the designated pit box. Tyres do not have to be changed and no fuel has to be added. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Endurance Clubmen
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Very, very, very unlikely to be back in time for this. :'(

I'll try to add to driver population in PorscheCup.  :)

TT

Edit: Not possible. Have a good race. Go Legends!  8)

This should be an interesting race, I think that the GT2/GTC/GT3 classes will all be pretty mixed up so we should all be having a good fight.

Not going to make this one. Try to have fun without me :)

Sorry to hear that - it's been great racing this season.  I take it you'll be back for the last 2 races to get some silverware in the Kerbies trophy cabinet though?

I'll try my best. Looking forward to 90 mins not thinking about ciggies :laugh:

Best stay away from the chain-cigar-smoking Legends then!  Although after the start of the formation lap that shouldn't be a problem  :P

Struggling with not-smoking then?  It took me a while to get out of the habit of finishing a race, cracking open a beer, and going outside for a smoke.  Now I just crack open a beer and abuse MJ..... ;D .

Yea, it's good to have a safety vent.  ;D

TT

Just out of interest guys, what times are you getting in GTC/GT2 classes?

It depends on how many times I spin .....

We'll do our best ;) Shame you can't make it SBG, I was looking forward to it after our awesome tussle at Enna :(


Vertigo -> My best is 1:27.5 in qualifying trim. I think I'll be somewhere around 1:29 in my race set-up with full fuel etc., maybe a little quicker if I manage some decent practice time before Sunday.

I'm not too far behind Pops time-wise, just struggling with consistency at the moment .... but that crease should be ironed out by race-time.

I'm back for this one. After missing Enna I need a good result to catch Backo and Jure.

Had a good race the other night in the sprint and I have still to make a few little changes as the gearing was a bit off in places.

Hopefully get an extra couple of tenths out of the car

I would like to take part in this one with my new wheel  ;D

What times should I be aiming for in the Porsche Cup?

Haven't done any laps yet in the cup car but I'll be there in the GT3 cup as well. I cant imagine the times will be that far off the faster cars at this track..... maybe 1.30 range but I'm only guessing

Where do all those Porsche Cups come from...at Enna it was all Vipers, and now the Cups again :laugh:

I can only manage 1:32's at the monment

Some of us die hard Porsche fans have taken the Porsche at every round - even the ones where the Viper is quicker :P although I didn't race at Enna ;)

Well that would probably be it then, I was guessing but still thought we'd be closer at this track. I'm home tonight and might do a few laps on the server later myself.....

HI Guys, Im very very sorry I havent been arround for racing over the last 3 weeks.

I unfortunately had to return home to South Africa due to the death of a close family member.

Apoligies for not giving my side of the story on a couple of incidents and missing races. I will not be making the clubmens race this evening eithere as I have just landed after a 13 hour flight and need some sleep.

See you all on the track soon.  ;D

Ant

Anybody do laps in the Viper CC here. I guess the times will be around 5:08.474 for me, as the big Viper already was a problem ;D

Nope, yeah might be a bit crap here. It's turn up and race tonight for me. Might even commit a sin and take the 911 Cup.

I Have managed a 1:34 in the Viper CC but that was just a quick blast while testing my wheel. I would say a 1:32 is very possible for you guys

Just did some laps in all three of the gt3 class cars. Suprisingly, they are all pretty close over a single flying lap, though the Viper would of course have the disadvantage of its weight in eating tyres and fuel over the race distance.

Best lap times were:

GT3 Cup 1:29.8
Viper CC 1:30.0
BMW Z3M 1:30.1

 Hope you and your family are all coping well. Hope you get back to simracing soon :)

Jon

Hmm! I am quite a way off the pace My Best In the TVR is 1:30.1!!  :o

Thought I was getting locked out as people were racing on practice server, I'm in now

Server went to race automatically, so we voted it on to practice one ASAP.

Disaster disconnected.

Leading for a while when suddenly the game started jumping. Made a  mistake because of it and Backo was right on my tail. Next corner it froze and when it came back I was already about to spin and could not stop it.

Lost lead and ended up a bit back on Backo.

Suddenly no gap times were available to me nothing, for Backo and by this time I was catching and could see him about 3-4 secs up the road. Next guy was showing 4 laps behind me.

Carried on and all was going well, decided to pit very early to get a few very fast laps in as I started with heavy fuel load and second part was lighter.

A lap or two later "connection lost" >:( :'(

I really thought I could win here tonight but that's this race and the season over for me. No chance of catching Backo now.

Did not get my best time in in quali. Did a 1.21.2 just slower than lap record, but countless times I was quicker but I always caught traffic and ruined my lap. Was very hopefull of a mid 1.20.

Racing with heavy fuel load I think I got a 122.2 and would have been faster in second stint by a good bit, sadly not to be.

My connection now seems very poor and slow still, thanks sky!

I'm away to hit the drink and will check back later

Another disconnect here - Crap-o-la  >:(

It happened at 22:19 so it must've been just a lap or two from the finish line which is extremely annoying to say the least!

That was one of my best drives of the season too :'(

Tried the GT3 Cup for the first time and took an RSR setup, reduced gearing and tweaked a few little things during qually to get a race setup and off I went in the race. Not sure where I qualified was too busy setting up the car to be bothered. Seemed to have a solid race, 4 of us in a gaggle at the start. PaulH at the front of a gaggle in his 911 Cup with Munkez F360GTC, Nicks Vertigo and my GT3 Cup. After that though it was a pretty lonely affair, just trying to keep the rear tyre temps under control and slowly getting more to grips with the 911 Cup, going a reasonable amount quicker than my qually time even with fuel and medium tyres in/on. Only made one mistake really the whole race and that was when I tried to flash Jure through and my reaching for the lights button into the braking saw me off into the gravel (silly me). Nice to have a car that can make it the whole race easily on one tank of fuel with just a stop for tyres, but the sods decided to repair some non-existant damage anyway at my stop costing me time. :-\

Shame to see Pops frozen car as he was leading class with only a few laps to go and sad to hear of Brian's disco too. Damned internet!

Not a very eventfull race for me. At first I could try to keep up with the GTC cars, but my med rears were reaching 115 quickly and I was dancing on ice ;D. So I pitted early and take hard rears. But they were gone 10 minutes before the end. I got 3 messages in those 10 minutes ;D.

Shame Pops, that sucks so hard, so for Kerr. Disco's are the worst DNF's.

I was trying to take the outter line when I was lapped. That worked for the beginning, but the last part of the race, off the line there were so many marbles and dirt, that I flew off a few times. At once I had 3 lappers behind me heading towards the small chicane. so I just drove straight in the graveltrap to avoid getting in the way ;D

 >:( >:( >:( >:(  noooo  i was 3 mins from the end of the race when an update put my game back to desktop, froze then when it came back i was in the wall with no engine and broken suspension.......  other than that i really enjoyed it.

That was a really good race - loads of action all the way through.

I was doing okay, up to 15th i think with PRiberio right behind me all the way through the field in the Z3.
Then i lost it with around 40mins gone, on the chicane before the long uphill strait (can't remember the name). Proceded to do this on three occasion, eventually finishing 19th :( - but one of the best races i have been in to date - good racing all  8)

Also - must apoligise to Jure, for moving in front of you a few laps before the end, i was tyring to get out of the way - i should have stayed where i was - but i payed for it by ending up in the gravel!

Also sorry to Bernie - was having a great scrap over the 1st few laps, and i think i tapped you on T1...

Great race though - can't wait to see the replay  8)

really bloody unlucky Pops, you disco'd with about 3 minutes left on the race clock  :'(

I had a fantastic race, albeit lacking in any real track action other than pushing hard the whole way until about 5 mins remaining when i eased right off as i had a +40 second cushion over the car behind.
Qualied an okay 5th, though still a second slower than my PB here.
Got past JUre? on about the 1st or 2nd flying lap when he ran wide on cold tyres.
Chased after a fast moving Picnic for quite a while until he made an error and i got past, and that was about my only on-track fight over with :(
I then steamed off into the 'very-low' sunset  :o, knowing i couldnt catch the lead car but building a big gap over the cars behind.
Pit-stop went reasonably smoothly but still took 60 seconds for fuel and tyres, despite me doing a longer first stint to keep refuelling to a minimum.  ::)

Am very chuffed to finally get myself a nice podium spot, finishing a fine 2nd place and a sweet taste of that virtual champagne  :clap:

Traffic with lapped cars was absolutely spot on tonight for what is a tricky track, so thanks alot to all who made life easier  :thumbup1: It looked like there were some great little fights going on in the cup cars. 8)

Replay (http://ukgtr.simracing.org.uk/Oschersleben%20-%20Endurance%20Clubmen%20070624.zip) plus provisional Results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=361) and Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=51)

Gutted for you Pops - that race was yours from the green light.

Had a fun start to the race, dropping a place to Ruskus early on, then harrassing him whilst his tyres fell apart.  After being enough of a nuisance I was flashed by, but I never closed the gap on the 2 guys infont.

After the pit stops I was 2nd in the GT2/GTC behind Pops, but trying to keep the Porker at bay was tall an order for me, and I duly submitted down the s/f straight.  After that it was just a matter of finishing so that I minimized the damage Pops did to my championship lead, well, that and avoiding some fairly reckless lapping GT1's.  Honestly, time and time again there are post race complaints about GT1's forcing through when there's a bloody massive straight all of 4 seconds down the road.  On the whole the lapping drivers (and indeed those being lapped) were great, shame it was spoilt by a few unconsiderate drivers.

When all is said and done, I'm happy with the result, it's just a bit of a hollow one with the Legends leader dropping out with a couple of laps to go.

I hate that circuit and I'm glad its now out of the way, i struggled all week with front tyre temps especially front left and after a very poor pit stop losing concentration and changing things when i didn't have to (lost myself 30 secs or so ???) came out tried to get straight back on the pace only to hit the wall at the tight chicane..... pit guys reported aero damage which did lead to understeer (lost me 2 secs a lap) so decided to limp the the 20 or so Min's home than take another trip to the pits!

Fantastic close racing at the start with Paul, Simon and Nick,  :fencing: that is what this sim is all about superb!  :rockon:

Please with qually, top 3 is probably a first for me and at the start of the race couldn't keep up with Kerr and Backo but seemed to ease a 10th out of MJ each lap. Then caught Gerald who got very sideways as I was about to lap him so I took avoiding action on the grass and let MJ through. Following him was ok until we caught traffic. The first one or two being cars on there own didn't have a great impact on time but we then caught a gaggle of 3 I think and that cost me 3 secs. MJ and myself were very close on lap times really but I pushed too hard trying to get it back down and made a minor error or two myself. I think Mark is much better at lapping than me, I seemed to lose 0.5 sec each time I caught a back marker and once the gap got over 10 secs I basically gave up and tried to just stay on track and finish.

Well that almost didn't work. Jure was catching me towards the end and I go confused over if it was him or a rapidly catching Backo I could see in my rear view mirror. So on the start finish straight I reached down and hit the look behind button. It was Backo, but looking away from where I was going is not clever and I drifted off the track and hit the pit wall  :-[ Lucky for me the car still drove but I threw 3rd place away in the process (dork  :'()

Still should be happy with 4th after the disaster that was the sprint race. Thanks to everyone who was courteous in letting me through :)

Bad luck to those who Disco'd

Ha! Lap record with out any practice :P

Only made it in as I had lost a wheel and engine at Silverstone in my Race2Play F1 race, so was not expecting much, grabbed my Anderstorp setup as the tracks are similar and hoped for the best. Got into it in second half and pleased with the result which unless I get screwed up in F1 races I cannot build upon, but enjoyed the battles I had.

Bit of bumping going on as to be expected at such a tight track, but good fun!

Shame the weeks changed really!

You made a brilliant overtaking manouvre over me, but half a lap later you were punted off by a GT1 car. That way I overtook you again and got a few secs lead. A few laps later you were at my bumper again so I went off line and let you by, as  it didn't feel right to get the place back of you by that incident.

Yep, cheers Ruskus - I forgot how that GT1 put me behind you.  I enjoyed our fight whilst is lasted though, good fun.



On a different note .... if my mathematics are correct, Legends Racing have just sewn up the GTC Team Championship! :clap:

As previously posted please submit reports. I know sometimes I think am I being let through but after think did I read that correctly? If I have offended I'd at least appreciate a PM so I can address the issue.

Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Oschersleben Clubmen enduro 24-06-2007/index.html)

Don't worry Picnic, as ever you were a gentleman of almost Legendary status ;) - I'll be filing a report in due course regarding the offenders - just waiting for the replay to download.

As I said, on the whole the GT1's were great, flashing lights to announce their intention to overtake, and flashing to say thanks.  The issue I have is when (even if they have announced their intention to overtake) GT1's force through a gap that plainly isn't there.

Ruskus mentioned me getting knocked off track by a GT1.  That was going into T1, and I was already on the brakes.  Vertigo's can brake very late, so what the driver in question was doing at that point is beyond me.

One thing about the clubmens racing series is there are very few GT1 cars. 6 tonight I think

From lap 2 myself and Backo started lapping people. By lap 7 or 8 we had caught the main field of GT2 drivers.

Although guys do there best, and some even go beyond the call of duty, lap after lap you keep catching slower cars and it completely breaks the race up. I can't mind getting many full laps in.

If you were to follow a slower car through a couple of corners each time you caught one race times would be terrible.

I know guys in slower cars have a hard time racing their own race when they have to worry about what is behind as well as in front, but again some sympathy for us GT1 drivers in the clubmen class as we have far more slower cars to pass.

As tonight 20 cars were far slower than a GT1 and on a small track you seemed to see the same guys every few laps, it was just car after car.

There is no way of being competitive without making quick passes during the race.

I don't think I did anything out of line on the race just in case people thought I was being defensive. Just my opinion.

I'm sorry about bumping Will in quali. I was about 0.3 sec up and really wanted to nail that lap. Your braking caught me out.

Again it was hard to get qualifying laps in as lots of slower cars and not much track

As I say most gt2 gtc drivers do a fantastic job and make as much space as normal, but please remember it's not easy for us either when you have to carry off countless passes every lap

Whilst I appreciate that lapping lots of slower cars interupts the race - that's part of what endurance racing is.  It's a shame there's not more GT1 cars on track at this point in the season, but a larger than normal number of cars doesn't mean that forcing past cars is acceptable.  The nature of this ciruit is such that you can lose a lot of time if you get stuck behind one of the slower cars, but again, the possibility of this occurring by no means validates dubious passes under braking or otherwise.

If slower drivers are making no concession to move over, report them, PM them, just don't use them to provide addition braking/turn in etc.  It might be frustrating to look at the back of an RSR for a couple of seconds, but sometimes it is (or rather, should be) unnavoidable.



Kerr- this is by no means levelled at you, just an observation over a number of races this season.

hope i didnt do anything wrong, i appolagize  if i did, this was my first endurance race. I tried to pass when it was safe to and on the straights unless they flashed me through.

i get your point Adam.

Each case on there own circumstances, but as I say look at the results tonight.

Look how many cars are 4, 5 6 laps behind and just add up the amount of passes required. If it is a really poor overtake it should be dealt with. I have noticed a few re offenders that maybe go OTT

We really need a more balanced field to be honest. Too many slower cars and not enough GT1's.

It will be a big headace come the end of the season how to divide masters and clubmen up.

There is nothing between a number of the GT1 clubmen and master GT1's, but then you can hardly promote the GT1 drivers if there is no spaces.

It is unlikely there will be 2 divisions next season so that one is easy Kerr. There just aren't enough people to do 2 divisions. That is still to be decided of course, see Gizmo for more info. :D

Look forward to hearing the plans.

i had no issues with anybody on track last night when lapping. If i caught them in the twisties i stayed behind them, its painful losing a few seconds a lap but then you assume that the same applies to all the other GT1 cars so it shouldnt be a problem really.
I thought all the lapped cars did their utmost to move over, even when they were having tight battles like Paul968 and Bernie.
I did mention on our team site that i wondered how certain GT drivers were suddenly pulling out so much time over me and Picnic when we caught traffic, but i guess we were being a bit more 'gentle-menly'  :-\ ...or they are just damn quicker  :-[

I try my best to give slower cars the required space but at times it's hard to be competitive.

After stuttering I lost control and the lead to Backo. My car was every bit as fast as his last night but come traffic his lead was getting bigger and bigger.

Watching replay it's clear certain drivers are more forceful and yes Adam too forceful at times.

On tracks like that last night every lap you seem to have to lap a few cars. You need to carry out 100 overtaking maneuvers and not everyone is going to be perfect.

Also I see people thanking GT1 drivers for flashing lights. This is a practice I have not adopted. Please don't think it's because I'm not grateful or appreciate your help. I just think at times it can appear rude speeding up behind someone flashing lights, especially 100 yards behind when there is no realistic chance to overtake

It's unusual for me to miss one - as it happens I was hacking my way back through the torrential rain in South Wales before a very long and dull drive down the M4 and M25 - my new Walkman phone came in handy. :D

Sounds like I missed a good one - I'll try and make sure I run a Viper CC at the Masters race next weekend unless they feel like inviting me to run as a very slow guest in GT1. :D

Kerr, i dont think we're meant to flash our lights to tell people we are coming through (or are we?...can mods confirm?), i only flashed thankyou's to people who endeavoured to move out the way when i was lapping.
I suppose it wouldnt be wrong to flash as thats what they do in the real GT racing world, i just wouldnt want it to be mis-intrepeted as 'oi get out of my way, i'm coming through' so if we agree its okay to flash when coming upto lap cars i will happily use that option. Perhaps top 3 can use it or leading GT car?

Last night was probably the most overtaking moves i've ever had to use, it seemed like i was lapping several cars every single lap. I didnt have any contact or incidents so must have been doing something right  ;)

C'mon MJ - read the rules!! ;) :

"Drivers may flash their headlights (either on-off during the day or off-on during the night) to warn other drivers of their presence. However, a driver being flashed shall not be obligated to let them pass."

It's a statement of intent, but should still mandate that the lapping car performs the overtake in a safe and controlled manner.

I just don't see the need to use lights at all when overtaking. The only way I can see a GT1 flashing their lights is if I'm looking behind... and if I'm looking behind then I can already see you're coming up to overtake, so there's no need to flash your lights!

Oschers is a very short, very tight track so of course there was going to be plenty of overtaking required between the classes. Even so, the vast majority of GT1 drivers managed to pass perfectly though, as they have done all season :)

It probably didn't help that there was a pretty poor turnout of full-time Clubmen last night so the field was padded by drivers who had to take the slower G2/GT3's. I know it didn't help the GT1's but I'm glad they turned up, it added a lot to the race.

The use of lights is more when lapping a same-class competitor, as there is less of a performance gap, and so a higher degree of communication is required as the opportunities for a pass are less clear cut.

As a driver of the slower GTC cars I normally flash my lights just to inform lapping drivers drivers i have seen them!
I dont think a more even field would sort the problem out Brian, more GT1 cars last night would have meant more overtaking slowing the GTC field down even more. I think for endurance racing its all down to the choice of a sensible location, hence we should drive Monaco and Macau next season  :P

Fun race for me in the Cup car went with full fuel from the start and jumped the other G3s in the pit stops and later as Ruskus struggled with tyres. Found the cup car to be great fun on this twisty track and looking forward to hauling the RSR round here on tomorrow.

Lapping cars werre generally patient for me with one or two noticeable exceptions, although generally I was lucky at the points when they caught me.
I also agree that flashing lights, although allowed, is unessecary in most cases - as Mark says its pretty obvious that someone is going to lap you when they come up behind with an extra 300bhp, and in order to see the lights you have to see the car anyway. If I've braked and I'm committed to a corner then GT1 cars flashing their lights aren't going to make me jump off the track anyway.

If there was more GT1 cars and less GT2/GTC there would be less cars to lap. It's not often you will lap another GT1 driver but as per last night GT2/GTC drivers were 4,5 and 6 lap behind.

So from a selfish GT1 stance that's how it would be, but as you said the more GT1s the more time GT2/GTC cars spend moving out the way and losing time. On the other hand the more GT2/GTC the more time GT1s lose. One of those cycles.

You could argue it was the same for all but again that's up for discussion. Some guys are said to be very forceful and this angers slower drivers, some guys show great patience but lose huge amounts of time and can't be competitive for that reason only. On an open track the difference is minimal, with traffic brings a new story.

I find it quite helpful for both myself and the other driver to do a quick flash when alongside each other so we're both sure we're aware that  the cars are alongside. I also sometimes flash somebody when I'm quite a way behind on a straight to give them an idea that I'm going to be lapping them soon - I find it quite useful when others do the same because I then know I'm being lapped without having to look behind and see who it is.

Once they're up close it's usually obvious whether it's a faster class car or not.

Managing traffic - both lapping and being lapped - is one of the great skills of muticlass racing and for me it adds a whole extra dimension to the racing which isn't there in the sprints.

Right. Watched the replay, didn't want to comment on what can hardly be described as a race (on my part), more a series of mistakes and stupidities.

Had a s****y quali session but didn't care too much about it since I knew my pace will be near to/a bit slower compared to Jonzo and Picnic (already knew from GT1 sprint Kerr and Backo will be in league of their own). To be honest I expected Picnic to be in front of me but that changed in lap 2 anyway.  ;D

Mistake no.1: end of quali, off I go to the toilet for which there was plenty of time. But then it hit me I'm still in my shorts and nothing else (hot as hell here ;D ) so I went into my room to grab a T-shirt just to return when lights went green and warm up lap already started. Sat down (chair in wrong position, TrackIR hat not on my head, headphones not on my head) and off we go. Of course I nearly lost it getting off the line and few more times during warm up lap (adjusting the chair and putting stuff on my head  ::) ) Apologies to Picnic for scaring him (probably  ;D ). Almost hit Jonzo entering S/F straight during warm up lap while being on pit limiter (huh?), turned away to avoid him an got collected by Picnic. No worries, our warm up laps will be perfect... by the end of year 2027.  ;D

Lost a place to Picnic going wide into T2, then made a huge mistake (still on cold fronts) going into triple left hander and went off track to rejoin behind leading gt2 porker. Same off repeated itself few laps later.

Climbed back, had a nasty little fight with Ossie, then passed him due to his off track adventure.

Taking my time (had 100L of fuel onboard, medium fronts, hard rears, wing 11), hoping for attrition in front of me and a late&short pitstop which would (that was the projection) put me either into P4 or P5 at the end.

Then.. oh well, I'd rather not comment on my behaviour, it's all self explanatory if you watch the replay @ 1711 and @ 2054. Incident report filled in, go read it, I'm still p****d off at myself ATM.  Taking my time with all the cars I caught and passed only to do that? Argh. :-\  >:( My sincere apologies to both drivers involved.  :-X

I'm glad this track's behind us, it gave a whole new meaning to the word understeer. Haven't driven a track that caused me so much trouble and, in retrospective, caused loss of self confidence which is to blame for all the stupidities I did. You know, should I or shouldn't I, that sort of stuff.

Anyway, I'd love to say "bah, it's just a game", but, well, it isn't. It's a hobby of ours and I ruined other drivers fun at it. Finishing on podium is a clear case of perverted poetic justice if I ever saw one.

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@ Kerr and rest of you guys with disco problems. My guess is you're all on dynamic IP. MAKE IT A RULE/MANTRA: "I WILL RESTART MY COMPUTER AND MODEM PRIOR TO RACE". Your IPs are changed by your ISP every 24 hours or (here's the trick and a cure by itself) each time you login. Hence login prior to race so your IP won't be changed during racing. I do it all the time, flying sims taught me that.

Same goes for auto updates. Either turn them off (which will give you a better control of what's going on with your computer anyway) or manually check for updates prior to race start (but that does not mean autoupdate won't turn on @ given hour. Most of auto update programs can be tweaked as per time-of-auto-update goes. Tweak it - early in the morning comes to mind  ;D )

Ah yes - I forgot to mention the pace lap ..... we'll get there soon I'm sure.  In the meantime I'll keep the Legends panel beaters in business as the field compresses (literally) before the start.  ;D



ps.   And the winner for the biggest post is ........  ;D

Sorry I hit you at the end of the (again horrible) pace-lap. I saw a Porsche shoot to the right and before I knew it there were 2 or 3 Vertigo's infront of me, so I couldn't go around. And let's just say, the Vertigo brakes harder than the Viper CC :D

No probs Ruskus - the Vertigo didn't feel any different, still nice and kart-like.



Another explanation would be that you saw the "No Sharks" decal and saw red ;) ;D.

I hope i'm not to blame for pace lap? I thought i kept it controlled and at a acceptable pace.

Your race never started as bad as mine jure.      I always go to the toilet during the 2 min before the race.    Last night jumping the corner of the bed my foot went in the opening at bottom of duvet cover.   Ended up flat out on the floor in hysterics and then could not pee straight as still in fits with a numb wrist!   

Naaah, pace was fine. What we're all forgetting is we should all be (I think rules command it) on pit-lane limiter at least 2 corners prior to S/F straight. That's something that rarely happens in this races of ours.

In general we go to limiter exiting (!) last corner while we're all still far from being evenly (properly) dispersed. That creates "limiter-on-no-wait-I'm-too-far-limiter-off-getting-closer-brake-what-is-the-car-behind-me-doing-in-my-difusor" efect  ;D ::)

Perhaps a "we shall engage limiter at corner X" in race announcements?

First race for me in a month and a half (hols + work), so was just hoping to get back some consistency and enthusiasm. The first third was a constant battle with Munkez, Nick and then Simon, which was hard work but good fun nonetheless. In the end I let Simon get past by being too nice to a lapping GT instead of taking the line I needed, and then got punted off and lost a lot of time. After my pitstop I had a great battle with Bernie, and having finally got past I then felt the need to spin and let him back in front so that I could have another go - great racing Bernie  :) Overall I'm quite pleased to get some enthusiam back for racing, although I can't help thinking that a G3 competition would be what I'd like best - the cars are easy enough to get in and drive without too much practice and the racing is always good.

You can have all week with the future woman, but sunday is for racing.     Get the rules set from the off or you are in trouble!

Hope you're relationship sorts out the way you want it, Gerald.  :)  If she catches and if when it comes closer to marriage you'll be able to train more.  :angel:   Ups, sorry MJ...  :-X

TT

Listen to kerr - he is right  8)

It was somebody else who told me that. i get dogs abuse for racing and hardly any time to practice.

I have to get up early after nightshift to practice and pretend I'm shattered and have been sleeping all day.

How do some of you guys getaway with it?

I have been wanting to join in the GTL racing but she would kill me if I did

You let her buy whatever she wants! :laugh:

I already do that and give her sex, what am I doing wrong?

Ah, cute, cute. Cute but, well... noobish.  :P

First of all YOU must clearly state it's a HOBBY of yours and far from being just a game and how very enthusiastic you FEEL about it and how you would really LOVE to see HER join the fun so you can BOTH have a MUTUAL interest you can enjoy TOGETHER.

Stage two is persuading her to play your race engineer.  :angel:

Works fine over here, SHE can't thank me enough since "now I really do know what's going on while watching racing on TV and WE can enjoy it together." She even wakes me up, "hey, you're missing it!" if I doze off while watching F1. ;) 8)

Well, yours is different than mine.  ;D

TT

My missus is a motorsport fan, but I've got to be carefull, I've been putting some serious mileage in of late.

Also she's a teacher, so she's never got any spare time to really whinge properly....

I would not dare ask her come watch me racing on the PC.

Although I enjoying racing, I really can't see the appeal of watching someone else

Summer hols should be fun then...  ;D

Ha, LOL, :D glad to see you all have to resort to the same kind of 'arrangements' / skullduggery that i do in getting time to race from the missus  :)

I made it very clear from the beginning (even though its a difficult thing to explain to a woman) that sundays and tuesdays were 'me-time' for racing. All i had to contend with was fits of giggles when i had to explain that what i had passed off as a motoring club was in fact online virtual racing  :-[
Ah well, she now says that at least its a 'harmless hobby' and keeps me off the streets or out of the pub....little does she know  ;) but still breaks out in a fit of giggles when imagining me sitting at a pc with a steering wheel  :-[ and cant understand why, when i have a real sports car that i want to drive a virtual racing one....women ??? havent got a clue have they  ;D  hehe.

ps...forgot about the pace lap, what the heck happened there? we had already put our pit limiters on down the s/f straight, i flick momentarily to rear view and someone in front of me (top 4) must have then decided to brake hard and we slammed into one another  :( ...surely once limiter is engaged there is no further reason to brake  ??? Bit annoying getting aero damage before the race has even begun.

I learned my lesson with Mrs Mo after not earning enough brownie points before a race. She plopped our 6 month old baby on my lap as I entered the Parabolica and promptly went out telling me I was babysitting :o

And now I find a good approach is to ponder out loud whether to go out on the p155 with mates or to have a quiet night and do a race instead. She'll always recommend the race and then I can give the impression I'm doing a favour by not going out ;D

I feel for you guys who have a hard time getting to practice or race :-\

Although she hasn't got the slightest interest in what I'm doing Mrs Pops is very supportive of my SimRacing, I think she's secretly quite pleased to get rid of me for a few hours on a Sunday evening!

Excellent reverse pyschology Mo  8)  ;D  I use similar ploys myself  :)

And lucky you Pops, i tend to trade off with things like 'you watch eastenders, i'll go practise'  ;D plus like Ad's missus, mine is a teacher and luckily for me? she has to spend several hours marking/doing reports for the little shites that masquerade as 'school-kids' these days. ::)

that's exactly how it works for me, combined with mo's going-down-the-pub-threat  ;D

LOL ;D

I thought i was the only one running round doing domestic duties and other stuff  ;)  to please the mrs hours before racing on a Thursday & Sunday!
It works though - although sometimes situations can escalate into all out warfare if its the wrong time of the month... :-\

Best time of month to race that! Keeps you away from the "aggro". ;)

Gerald, stay single!  :o

 ;D

TT

I couldnt agree more with you Dave.
Its an excellent way to improve our skills, and to have more fun aswell. :yes:
My opinion is to keep the multiclasses racing together, problably with addon tracks (there are several out there,
with great quality and even better fps) trying to race at those who are more wide and longer. :)

Cheers

There's no Master's enduro thread set-up yet so I'll say it here - I hope I'll be around on Sunday for the race, however I'm about to leave for (a slightly flooded!) Sheffield to compete in the UK corporate games for Intel :D We came second in our "warm up" a couple of months ago, so hope we can go one better! :D

Only a short track though, ah well, usual Karting fare :P

Plan is to be back on sunday night, but not sure yet.
Wish me luck  8)

"insert Truetom smilie here"
You said to restart a "modem" prior to the race. Unplug, smash, press a button?  :)
I always restart my connection (and computer). Is that enough?  :)

TT

unplug is the safest, although restart should be enough.