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Title: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 06, 2007, 08:59:55 AM +0100
All members welcome.

Practice: 20:15 (15 mins)
Qualifying: 20:30 (20 mins)
Race: 20:50 (25 laps = ~40 mins)

Track: Cadwell Park v3.1 (download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27))
Cars allowed: Alfa Romeo, Ford Falcon, Lotus Cortina, Ford Mustang, Mini Cooper
Time of Day Setting: 15:00
Start: Rolling

Server: UKGTL TC-65 Cup
Password: available from the event page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=327) (see the Show Password link under the announcement text)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7).
(3) General information on the series can be found on the series home page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=48).
(4) The season will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.3 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=27).



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 08, 2007, 10:54:20 AM +0100
This is a really challenging circuit, so I'd advise you if you can to do some practice laps first.
 :P :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Johnb on July 15, 2007, 05:03:20 PM +0100
Hi, Just trying to get some Practice on the Cadwell park,
Where is the password????


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Jeffrey on July 15, 2007, 05:11:37 PM +0100
Hi, Just trying to get some Practice on the Cadwell park,
Where is the password????

For practice server see here: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2929.0

For the actual race password check the event page linked in the first post.

And welcome to UKGTL at Simracing.org.uk  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Johnb on July 15, 2007, 05:14:35 PM +0100
Hey thanks dude :P


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: madmac on July 16, 2007, 07:21:32 PM +0100
Hi Guys

Should be able to make this week so see you all Thursday.

Peter


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Mr.BMW on July 17, 2007, 01:02:50 AM +0100
So about 8/10 laps I will roll the car on one of the many hills. I'm feeling pretty good about this Thursday.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Phil Gilliland on July 17, 2007, 10:49:47 PM +0100
This circuit is not only challenging for the driver, it's quite a handful for the system - mine's down to 15 fps in that twisty section before the pits, so I'm going to have to sit this one out.  :'(

Phil Gilliland


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Jeffrey on July 17, 2007, 10:53:30 PM +0100
This circuit is not only challenging for the driver, it's quite a handful for the system - mine's down to 15 fps in that twisty section before the pits, so I'm going to have to sit this one out.  :'(

Phil Gilliland

If you haven't done so yet, go from directX9 to 8.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Mr.BMW on July 17, 2007, 11:08:58 PM +0100
also try adjusting your settings, lower the textures, special FX, lighting, etc.

I'm running around 50-75fps on this track with High to Very High settings, only really noticing any form of bog down when a few cars get into an accident in front of me.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Phil Gilliland on July 18, 2007, 12:10:31 AM +0100
Thanks, that's helped. I'd also forgotten that lowering the resolution (from 1280 x 1024 to 800 x 600 in my case) gives a huge jump in fps. It's now back up to 40 -70 fps. Bit blocky but easily good enough to race, so I'll be there on Thursday.  :)

Phil Gilliland


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Mr.BMW on July 18, 2007, 03:06:27 AM +0100
Just as long as you can see me passing you, you're fine  :P


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 18, 2007, 08:25:24 AM +0100
If you haven't already done so these .plr file tweaks will give you a big performance boost in GTL...
(The ones highlighted in bold are the worst offenders (quite frankly bugs in GTL))

Data Acquisition In Race="1" ---->change value to "0"

Driver Animations="1" ---->change value to "0"

Trackside Characters="1" ---->change value to "0"

Disable All Character Anims="0" ---->change value to "1"

LOD Multiplier Multiplier="1.00250" ---->change value to "0.99000"

Arms Visible In Cockpit="1"  ---->change value to "0"

Windscreen dirt buildup="1"  ---->change value to "0"

Swaying Trees="1"  ---->change value to "0"

More settings here...
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=791.msg48244#msg48244 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=791.msg48244#msg48244)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: madmac on July 18, 2007, 01:05:26 PM +0100
Direct X seven gives best framerate at Cadwell. If you try that you should be able to up your resolution again.  Anybody got any times yet? I am doing 1.39's in Alpha and 1.40's in Cortina. Tyres seem to hold out longer in Cortina though.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 18, 2007, 06:59:45 PM +0100
1:41.3 in the Falcon. Fun but probably not a good choice of race car - may take the Cortina instead...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Adam Parle on July 18, 2007, 08:16:39 PM +0100
Just had a brief intro to the track - should be good fun (can we take bets on how many times Psuedo will spin in the post race video?  :P ).

Got down to 1:40.6 in the Alfa so far, but I'll give the others a go and see how they fare.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: pribeiro on July 18, 2007, 10:21:55 PM +0100
If you haven't already done so these .plr file tweaks will give you a big performance boost in GTL...
(The ones highlighted in bold are the worst offenders (quite frankly bugs in GTL))

Data Acquisition In Race="1" ---->change value to "0"

Driver Animations="1" ---->change value to "0"

Trackside Characters="1" ---->change value to "0"

Disable All Character Anims="0" ---->change value to "1"

LOD Multiplier Multiplier="1.00250" ---->change value to "0.99000"

Arms Visible In Cockpit="1"  ---->change value to "0"

Windscreen dirt buildup="1"  ---->change value to "0"

Swaying Trees="1"  ---->change value to "0"

More settings here...
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=791.msg48244#msg48244 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=791.msg48244#msg48244)

Thanks Simon, now i have a 100 fps average  :)
Can i do the same to GTR2 plr file?
Sorry for my silly question (noob PC user) :-[

Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: psuedo on July 18, 2007, 10:47:42 PM +0100
Quote
(can we take bets on how many times Psuedo will spin in the post race video?   ).

ONly if I can have a bet on it too ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 18, 2007, 11:11:38 PM +0100
Can i do the same to GTR2 plr file?

Pretty much, but you won't see quite the same performance boost. There was something very wrong with GTL's implementation of the trackside characters which results in massive slowdown for that particular settings. Here are the GTR 2 equivalent settings in the .plr file:
(Ones marked in bold have most effect in GTR2)

Data Acquisition In Race="1" ---->change value to "0"
Driver Animations="1" ---->change value to "0"
Track Animations="1" ---->change value to "0"
Disable All Character Anims="0" ---->change value to "1"
Windscreen dirt buildup="1" ---->change value to "0"
Swaying Trees="1" ---->change value to "0"
Arms Visible In Cockpit="1" ---->change value to "0"

All these settings are things you will barely notice at all, so are definately worth turning off for the performance gain you get.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: pribeiro on July 18, 2007, 11:13:07 PM +0100
Can i do the same to GTR2 plr file?

Pretty much, but you won't see quite the same performance boost. There was something very wrong with GTL's implementation of the trackside characters which results in massive slowdown for that particular settings. Here are the GTR 2 equivalent settings in the .plr file:
(Ones marked in bold have most effect in GTR2)

Data Acquisition In Race="1" ---->change value to "0"
Driver Animations="1" ---->change value to "0"
Track Animations="1" ---->change value to "0"
Disable All Character Anims="0" ---->change value to "1"
Windscreen dirt buildup="1" ---->change value to "0"
Swaying Trees="1" ---->change value to "0"
Arms Visible In Cockpit="1" ---->change value to "0"

All these settings are things you will barely notice at all, so are definately worth turning off for the performance gain you get.

Thanks for your time Simon ;),
Cheers 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: psuedo on July 19, 2007, 03:07:48 PM +0100
Anybody likely to be using the BMW Austin Mini Cooper tonight?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Blunder on July 19, 2007, 04:58:40 PM +0100
Hi Guys!

Long time no see!

Team Oldie will be taking the Lotus Cortina, tool of choice!
( as we have a skin for it! )

Low 1:40sec so far!

Excellent track! should be good fun!

Martin


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Mr.BMW on July 19, 2007, 05:27:34 PM +0100
Due to unforseen consiquences I won't be able to make it today :(

Little frustrating as I was running low 1.38s in the Alfa, and I may have actually been competive.

Oh Well  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Mark J on July 19, 2007, 06:10:22 PM +0100
Anybody likely to be using the BMW Austin Mini Cooper tonight?

i am tempted, the mini is a total blast around here, great fun, you can really rinse the little beggar  :)
But my overall laptimes cannot compete with the other cars, apart from the Falcon.

Alfa and cortina 1:38
Mini 1:39
Falcon 1:41

only done a handful of laps in each so far.
Great track.  8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: psuedo on July 19, 2007, 06:58:09 PM +0100
I'm Not gonna win anyway so I'm not too bothered about the mini being a little slower....but I've tried them all and your right MJ, the mini is by far the most fun round here so I'll stick with it. ;D

BY the way...enybody know how long the races are on the practice server?

been waiting to join but can't coz someones having a race with himself!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Adam Parle on July 19, 2007, 07:20:09 PM +0100
been waiting to join but can't coz someones having a race with himself!

Again!?!?!?!  Time to name and shame ....


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 19, 2007, 08:02:18 PM +0100
I am toying with the idea of the Mini myself as the last race and being a very interesting track it may be suited, but there are also the hills!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Splintheter on July 19, 2007, 09:04:06 PM +0100
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh............Thats the second time in 2 weeks, that my game has crashed just before crossing the start line.   >:(  >:(

Is anyone else running GTL on VISTA????

I also had someone behine me who also clearly didnt know the start procedure, as he kept ramming and trying to overtake me on the warm up lap............Grrr.............


But none the less I have learnt a load this season and I look forward to the next one.

Thanks GUYS!!! :P



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Adam Parle on July 19, 2007, 09:22:22 PM +0100
Ruskus blitzed past me on lap 1 as expected - although I was close behind.

Dunno what happened on lap 2 - we were flying round T2 when the Falon slowed up unexpectedly (I had to be close to stand any chance of getting by under braking down the hill) - there was contact and surprise surprise the Lotus came off 2nd best.  I had to watch the whole field drive by - and then to rub salt into the wound the car didn't want to turn 180 to get going again.

After getting going and making up a few places I span and that was the final straw.

I very nearly quit when I had to watch everyone drive by, but that next spin was too much.

Crap end of the season to me - and I was expecting good things from tonight after having put in a good number of laps.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Minton on July 19, 2007, 09:34:17 PM +0100
Great to be back ..Had a great battle with Bernie for the first ten laps until my downshifter button stared shifting two gears at a time so had to quit... Cadwell rocks!!!!
Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Bernie Lomax on July 19, 2007, 09:45:42 PM +0100
Great to be back ..Had a great battle with Bernie for the first ten laps until my downshifter button stared shifting two gears at a time so had to quit... Cadwell rocks!!!!
Cheers

Bad luck dan, you had me under some real pressure for the first few laps. Think we were doing more or less identical lap times just the odd mistake here and there making a couple of 10th difference.
You were pushing me all the way and I couldn't have gone any faster.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: will16v on July 19, 2007, 09:51:36 PM +0100
This track has some issues - its not finished!! I fell 'off' twice...see reply time 1531 & 2333 ??? _ anyway - maybe something to note if used in the future...
However, i did like this track, very quick on the straits, hard to overtake, looks like the mini should have been the choice here maybe?

Anyway, had a few good laps with a couple of drivers, but it was all over too soon - got tapped by SJ i think and spun, but at least he waited - thanks, but it was an accident, you should have gone  :D



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 19, 2007, 09:57:30 PM +0100
Provisional results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&event=327), replay (http://ukgtl.simracing.org.uk/UKGTL%20S2%20-%20TC-65%20Cup%20Cadwell%20070719.zip) and provisionally updated final standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=48).


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Jeffrey on July 19, 2007, 09:59:21 PM +0100
Man what a race again.

Start went just as Adam said, I could power past the Cortina.
Dunno what happened on lap 2 - we were flying round T2 when the Falon slowed up unexpectedly (I had to be close to stand any chance of getting by under braking down the hill) - there was contact and surprise surprise the Lotus came off 2nd best.

In lap 2 I went into Charlies and I actually went through there quite fast, but I had some oversteer which slowed me down a bit. Then you hit me and I had to use all my steering lock to keep going straight.

A few laps later I went downhill after Gooseneck but hit the grass while drifiting out of the corner which made me fly to the other side of the track and onto the grass. I was rolling down the hill and couldn't brake. Luckily I missed Pribeiro who was passing me at that moment  :sweatdrop:.

After that it was kinda lonely, because Simon drove his Mini into a ditch  :lol:.

But then MJ was closing in fast and about lap 18 he was right behind me with 7 laps to go. I had to push hard to keep him behind and try to keep the inside shut. At one point he tried via the outside, but the power of the Falcon got the better of the Alfa ;D.

I heard Simon say through Team Speak that he was gaining 2s a lap on MJ and me, so it was gonna be close. I wasn't trying to hold up MJ more so Simon could come close, as I was pushing me a.. off trying to keep going :).

In the end Simon even overtook MJ which was a brilliant end to a great race.

This track is so much fun in the Falcon, it's like rallyracing ;D.

Grats Bara...again :D.

P.S. I saw you spin once Psuedo, rolling down the hill  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Jeffrey on July 19, 2007, 10:01:09 PM +0100


Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/GTL Cadwell 19-07-2007/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Mark J on July 19, 2007, 10:03:10 PM +0100
Fantastic nights racing again. Left sweating like a mofo once more.

I got royally gang raped by two shark buggers, no doubt using their teamspeak to good effect  ::)

Qualied a good 5th with Bernie in 2nd and Adam 6th, it was looking like a strong Legends team effort.

Got upto 4th in race but on lap 10, got one wheel on grass on the fastest track section and around she went, costing me 20 seconds on the slippery grass.  :(

Rejoined 11th but fought my way back upto Ruskus in 6th or 7th? after Shark binned it in the trees under braking.
Then sat glued to his rear bumper for something like 10+ laps losing 2+ seconds a lap with Shark a good 11+ seconds behind but gaining through my lost time. Jeffs Falcon became the widest Yank job in the country as he made sure i wasnt getting past despite me getting alongside on several occasions. The beast had enough horses to get it out of trouble everytime  :fencing:
I was losing tons of time in the fastest sector T1, having to seriously lift everytime to avoid his wayward rear-end. :tank:
With about a lap to go, the last chance i had to check my mirror, the No,1 mini of Baracus was sat behind me with Shark just behind him, then as we came around to the uphill chicane for the last time, Jeff conveniently ::) got out of shape forcing me to brake hard and head to the right...i saw a minis wing come up alongside and eased off the throttle thinking it was the lapping Baracus, but it was Jeffs partner in crime...bloody shark ! :2guns:
I swore rather loudly to myself at that point  ;D and had to watch in disgust as their handy work cost me the two places that my pace should have had  :'(
My rage was tempered by my mutual admiration for their crafty team race craft :shifty: , well done gents, it was classic close-fighting historics racing, a great fight with Jeff and a few others along the way. :punk:

Well done Baracus and Bernie  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: psuedo on July 19, 2007, 10:03:56 PM +0100
Another Fun evening....Thats a good track...hard work but loads of fun.

Qualified ok 10th i think (infront of all mini's except baracus's V8 version ;D). Felt good round here but ran very slightly wide on the sweeping right hander and two cars rocketed passed. I then did a Psuedo and fell off the road a couple of times leaving myself last place (again). Managed to catch and pass a couple of cars within 4 laps then spent the rest of the time on my own untill I caught Kieth's very wide Falcon for the last 3 laps..no way past...got alongside a couple of times but then he just pulled away again...enjoyed the scrap though...even though it was only short.

Well done podium and especially Baracus....I have no idea how you can make that mini go so fast..Brilliant.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Jeffrey on July 19, 2007, 10:12:54 PM +0100
Brilliant racereport MJ, cracked me up  :lol:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Mark J on July 19, 2007, 10:15:57 PM +0100
 ;D ... i seem to have a habit in recent races of being glued to your yanky-tank ass :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Jeffrey on July 19, 2007, 10:16:57 PM +0100
;D ... i seem to have a habit in recent races of being glued to your yanky-tank ass :laugh:

I'd prefer it if you'd call it a slightly obese behind. Thank you very much.... :euro:

Did you have KY problems again? :P


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: pribeiro on July 19, 2007, 10:28:50 PM +0100
Congratulations Baracus :clap:

Well done to Baracus, ASSASSINO and....myself :lol: GS team lads.

Thanks all for the fun and fair races :notworthy:

Thank you for the excellent car/tracks combo Simon (you know my feeling about
addon tracks ;D they are very welcome) :whistling:

I only hope join you next season :yes:

You guys are great,
Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 19, 2007, 10:31:09 PM +0100
That was brilliant fun and a fabulous way to end the season. I had a hoot in the Mini. Well done to Baracus for the win in the Mini, brilliant pace.

Sorry about the server crash during practice, no idea what happened there. Haven't seen an actual software crash of the dedicated server for quite a while, but thankfully it was a one off and we managed to race fine to the flag.

Did my usual rubbish job in qualifying at least a second down on my race pace so was looking to do some overtaking in the Mini. Pace lap ended with a big concertina and pile-up on the start line. No idea what happened but the mid to back field lost quite a bit of time getting going again.

Bedded myself into the race after that taking 2 minis in the first few laps and set off on a mission to see how fast I could drive the English tinpot. Had some fun with Assassino in his Alfa for a while until he tried to climb the mountain via the "experts path" and I went by.

After that I chased down Jeff in his rally Falcon. Managed to catch him as his tyres were gone after about lap 2 ;D and my pace picked up too. MJ after his off round the loop had also caught us both up as Jeff's Falcon was running slower and slower, but with no way by MJ and I were both sitting very close to Jeff wondering how to get by. Then as we came round the second last corner for the first time in the entire race (happened a few times in qually) my Mini snapped left under braking. This threw me into the tree/hedge/tire wall and I got stuck for about 10-15 seconds on something, thought it was a tree but I think it was the tyre wall. Managed to get myself off that and with 5 laps to go thought that was my fun over.

Ha ha ha, no no no. Ho ho ho. ;D ;D ;D

On a mission to catch MJ and Jeff up I stormed up towards them with Jeff unable to maintain a decent pace getting the gap down was like taking candy from a baby. 2 laps to go and I was back within striking distance of the pair and laughing at the fact that MJ hadn't been able to get past Jeff either. Only thing was with 2 laps to go Baracus the leader came up to lap me. Noooo I thought, there goes my chance, let Baracus through on the S/F straight with precisely 2 to go and hoped for a miracle. Well I'm sure Baracus has been called many things but half way round that lap the miracle man himself slows down and lets me unlap myself to setup a barnstorming final lap with Jeff, MJ and myself. (Thanks again for that very nice bit of sporting behaviour as the last lap really was worth it for both fun and position!)

Last lap and I still have a little work to be right on the duelling duos exhaust pipes, but thankfully Jeff is having real difficulty maintaining any decent pace. I get a great run on the pair down towards the bombhole and as Jeff comes in to brake he gets out of shape trying to keep his tank on the track. With such a great bit of extra momentum and Jonzo having to taking a little avoiding action I seize the opportunity and squeeze my Mini through shouting at myself over TeamSpeak to pedal faster to keep Jonzo behind. For a moment I thought I had the pair of you to get a double miracle, but one will do, especially as it was the old pirate Jonzo. :P I had just enough momentum to get into the mountain first and the rest of the lap involved trying to push Jeff's car out the way as he crawled painfully through the twisty final section. Thanks to both of you, that was a real treat of a last lap.

I thoroughly enjoyed that and it was nice to race at my original home circuit (haven't done that since some motorbike game on the Atari ST).

Also very pleased at the turnout again and the variety on the grid. That circuit really evened out the cars quite well, although it was nigh on impossible to get past the yank tanks, it was mighty to see the Mini win.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 19, 2007, 10:37:20 PM +0100
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh............Thats the second time in 2 weeks, that my game has crashed just before crossing the start line.   >:(  >:(

Ah, that partly explains the chaotic end to the pace lap. :o

I also had someone behine me who also clearly didnt know the start procedure, as he kept ramming and trying to overtake me on the warm up lap............Grrr.............

I had a grandstand seat for that... but you may want to check the qualifying results and replay...



Brilliant fun race and a great way to end the season. Knew tyres would be a big problem and tried to nurse them a little bit over the first few laps but that meant I had Keith's Mustank and various flyweights all over me. Middle phase of the race was just trying not to make any silly mistakes as I gradually eeked out a gap of a few seconds over Keith.

Towards the end I was starting to catch Phil G's Mini again as the tyres went through their 'icy' phase and started to come back to me a bit. But behind me MadMac was catching me fast in his Alfa and I had to make my Falcon super wide during the last two laps to hold on to 13th and one of my most satisfying finishes of the season. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 19, 2007, 10:41:02 PM +0100
Very well done to Ghostspeed on their clean sweep of team titles, it seems Team Shark were second best in all three categories this season so I hope we can challenge a bit stronger next.

It's been a fun season with many highlights and a pleasure racing with you all. Nice to see quite a few new faces join us this season I hope you continue to race with us. Stayed tuned for the start of Season 3 (currently slated for 9th August). Next week we have a couple of short sprint races to try out standing starts, so I hope you all can join in and enjoy a race in the 76 cars.

Don't forget if you want to get a new skin into the revised skin pack for Season 3 then you need to have submitted it by 28th July. See the UKGTL skin pack board (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?board=35.0) for details.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: baracus250gt on July 19, 2007, 11:03:35 PM +0100
Very well done to Ghostspeed on their clean sweep of team titles, it seems Team Shark were second best in all three categories this season so I hope we can challenge a bit stronger next.

Cheers mate!! I'm sure were all looking forward to doing it again ;)

Really love this track. Once you find that flow its so satisfying. My Mini setup was fantastic... I could hurl it into corners and trail brake really deeply (not that you need to brake much!) and it would just do what I told it to! Felt like playing a codemasters game at one point!

I surprised myself with the speed of that FWD midget today tho really!

Sorry to MJ to interfere with your race like that - I just couldnt see that I could get by your battle without putting you both off so decided to back off. Suppose I shouldnt have even passed Si...

See you all soon!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Madd-RIP on July 19, 2007, 11:19:35 PM +0100
 ;) 2nd place in TC65 for me and 3rd for team RVS, pretty happy with that, Grats to Baracus and Ghostspeed, I've only got back from Mexico today so no chance of racing, good to see a season 3 on the cards, thanks Simon,  ;) .


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: psuedo on July 19, 2007, 11:39:25 PM +0100
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(can we take bets on how many times Psuedo will spin in the post race video?   ).

Anybody said three they WIN $$$$$$$

However I DID finish.....and three is only one more than two :P ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: baracus250gt on July 19, 2007, 11:56:40 PM +0100
;) 2nd place in TC65 for me and 3rd for team RVS, pretty happy with that, Grats to Baracus and Ghostspeed, I've only got back from Mexico today so no chance of racing, good to see a season 3 on the cards, thanks Simon,  ;) .
Hi mate! Glad you are back hope you had a good time. Really is a shame we couldnt continue our battle to the death, it was a close fight from mid-season onwards, really tense... next time, ya?! :)
You better watch Team Shark dont "snap" you up during the close-season for astronomical sums of bribe!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Jeffrey on July 20, 2007, 08:16:39 AM +0100
Hope I didn't scare anybody with my pit-garage-exit method  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: BillThomas on July 20, 2007, 10:32:36 AM +0100
My demise was due to my second trip on the wrong side of the crash barriers.   :o  First time I lost 2 or 3 places, out braked my self into the sharp left hander at the bottom of the hill and reversed out.  ::)

Second time was at the start/finish straight, flat in 4th and the front ran wide, I went so far down I thought I'd try to drive thought it to the end of the barrier but eventually realise the error of my ways and quit.   :'(

Early on I still had cars ahead and even behind me until I out braked myself.  Never mind eh - all good fun that's the main thing.  ;D

Thanks Shark for the organisation and choice of cars and add on track, also thanks folks for the clean driving.  Look forward to next season.   ;D

Bill


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: madmac on July 20, 2007, 12:06:31 PM +0100
No no no [Ed]

Anyway once I finally got started after having my warm up lap completely ruined I was a bit slow and D Gymer went past me in his Falcon closely followed by Keith in his Mustang. As my tyres warmed up I found myself faster than Keith but do you think I could get past? Great driving Keith! Put a couple of wheels on the grass on lap seven and span off then spent another four laps catching Keith up again. And still couldn't get past!

Finally managed it when he ran wide and spent a couple of laps catching D Gymer. And that was it, couldn't get past him either! Great racing D!

Thoroughly enjoyed it and still can't believe that Keith and I spent all that time racing so closely without hitting each other! Can't wait for the next race! Cheers guys.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Carl Hart on July 20, 2007, 12:38:19 PM +0100
Hi Guys grats to podium! Sound like i missed a good race.
I had a problem last night, as soon as i joined the game and the menu came up i had somebodys name flashing in the center of my screen so basically i could select anything like the setup menu or chat icon. Has anybody else suffered from this problem? If so how do you fix it.
P.S. I had up to date car pack and track files.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: psuedo on July 20, 2007, 01:21:02 PM +0100
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I had a problem last night, as soon as i joined the game and the menu came up i had somebodys name flashing in the center of my screen
I had that problem once...cant remember where ..but it was in GTR2 not GTL...I didn't do anything to 'fix' it and it has not happened since until you last night!....which leads me to assume it is more likely to be some form of clitch on the server side...as both my own and your software packages work fine the majority of the time....and of course, it has happened in two different software packages....Maybe one of the software  :sorcerer: could shed some light?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Mark J on July 20, 2007, 01:22:54 PM +0100
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had somebodys name flashing in the center of my screen so basically i could select anything like the setup menu or chat icon. Has anybody else suffered from this problem? If so how do you fix it.
P.S. I had up to date car pack and track files.

I've had that problem a few times in GTR2 but not GTL so far. It must be another simbin web-code anomaly  ???

The only way to solve it (worked for me both times) is to ask the driver who's name keeps flashing up, to leave the race and re-join, which shouldnt be a problem as normally it should be in the practise session. Cures it.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 20, 2007, 01:27:02 PM +0100
MadMac's post edited - I tried to be subtle with
I also had someone behine me who also clearly didnt know the start procedure, as he kept ramming and trying to overtake me on the warm up lap............Grrr.............
I had a grandstand seat for that... but you may want to check the qualifying results and replay...
but obviously too subtle. We do not discuss incidents in public, we report them properly.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Phil Gilliland on July 20, 2007, 01:28:26 PM +0100

Second time was at the start/finish straight, flat in 4th and the front ran wide, I went so far down I thought I'd try to drive thought it to the end of the barrier but eventually realise the error of my ways and quit.   :'(

Bill

You didn't need to Bill. I discovered that if you find yourself on the wrong side of the barriers at Cadwell you can drive straight through them, back onto the track. Or maybe you were taking the simulation to extremes?  ;D

Phil Gilliland


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: madmac on July 20, 2007, 04:23:53 PM +0100
Sorry Dave, didn't realise. was just responding to his complaint.  I was never intending to make it official and had said all I was going to say in the post race chat. But when I saw his post I decided to respond.

I had the flashing name bit in GTL Wednesday afternoon on Nogrips server. It was caused by somebody using a skin that wasn't on the server. We worked it out because there were only three of us on practicing at the time. Never worked out why the server let him on with it in the first place though.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: BillThomas on July 20, 2007, 05:58:22 PM +0100

Second time was at the start/finish straight, flat in 4th and the front ran wide, I went so far down I thought I'd try to drive thought it to the end of the barrier but eventually realise the error of my ways and quit.   :'(

Bill

You didn't need to Bill. I discovered that if you find yourself on the wrong side of the barriers at Cadwell you can drive straight through them, back onto the track. Or maybe you were taking the simulation to extremes?  ;D

Phil Gilliland

Well I'll be *********************,   :-[ I mowed down plenty of spectators and I'm sure I must have hit the inside of the barrier.  Now I'll have to try it and see!!!   :devil:
Does this happen at every track with GTL?  I don't think it's ever happened to me with GTL before.  What about GTR 2, as I've been the wrong side at Andersthorp (I can't spell but you know where I mean) and had to go around I'm sure?   Bill


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: BillThomas on July 20, 2007, 06:12:13 PM +0100
Me again.  You're right about Cadwell but the GTL barriers at Anderstorp are solid enough.  :tank:
That certainly makes me feel better - never even considered trying to drive though a barrier.  :angel-wings:

Bill


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Simon Gymer on July 20, 2007, 07:27:02 PM +0100
I checked the server settings and it's definately set to "Only allow cars installed on server" and it's also set to report ALL mismatches (although there doesn't seem to be a setting to kick if mismatch found).


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: psuedo on July 20, 2007, 07:55:55 PM +0100
there was a few reports of mismatches last night....maybe that was the problem.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Johnb on July 20, 2007, 08:41:43 PM +0100
Who were the miss matchers only I had the same problem as Pablo
 :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: psuedo on July 20, 2007, 09:01:29 PM +0100
Sorry..I never took notice of who it was...just remember seeing it flash on my screen when driving.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: baracus250gt on July 21, 2007, 02:14:54 AM +0100
IIRC it was Ossie and Pablo? Maybe me too??


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: Jeffrey on July 21, 2007, 07:01:37 PM +0100
You doing a vid Ossie? :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 2 (TC-65 Cup) - Cadwell Park - Jul 19
Post by: ossie on August 02, 2007, 11:31:45 AM +0100
sorry no on hols.