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Practice 1:	20:00	(10 mins)	full time drivers only
Practice 2:	20:10	(10 mins)	reserves may join too
Qual 2:	20:20	(30 mins)
Warmup:	20:50	(5 mins)
Race:	20:55	(80 mins)

Cars allowed: any GT2, GTC or GT3 from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.6.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519).
Weather: changeable, based on real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: Valencia GP
Race Start Time 14:00
Pit Stops: All drivers must make a minimum of one pit stop. This must involve entering the pit lane at the speed limit, and coming to a complete standstill in the designated pit box. Tyres do not have to be changed and no fuel has to be added. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Lower Endurance
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=61). Reserves (anyone without a full time spot) should not join until the stated session, regardless of the time.
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
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I'll be in the Viper CC, probably bringing up the rear of the GT3 field.

I'll also be there bringing up the rear of the GT3's.......In the TVR  :D

I'll be driving the Cup Porker in GT3 ;D

looking forward to the 9th :punk:

Instead of being a dummy on the night, I'll ask now. I guess a reserve can join in any of the classes?

If I get in, the 811 seems fun in what looks to be a good GT3 gang :).

80 mins in the M3 is going to be hard work I think. Still - I'll get a quick break in the pits for a rubber change (changing tyres became a novelty in the Vertigo).

Yes. If you make a habit of it you may get a full time slot if one opens up. :D


Mental note to self - actually practice the pit entry this time so I don't have the limiter on 3 seconds too early! :-[ :laugh:

If there is room for me I'll join the 350Z cup at the back  ;D

Might join in myself if i get a chance, though i may have used up all my good boy tokens watching the F1 all afternoon  ;D

Will choose a chariot on the night as not sure yet.

I'm in the Vertigo in GTC.... to 'be fair to the slower drivers.'..has anybody seen the GTC line up ???????.....I am the only 'slower' driver there.....Can I not Pretend the Saleen looks like a vertigo for this? I would at least be able to aim for midfield rather than fighting to avoid being last.... ;D

I'll be there in the 996 RSR, but ATM, i can only manage a fastest lap time of 1.36.xx with my current set up, so not expecting any great results  :-\

Unfortunately for me, i still have got an internet connection at my new home yet  >:( so i wont be making tonights race  :'(
See you all at the next one!!

Munk

Hello!

I'll check in this evening to see if there's room or need for a reserve driver if that's OK with you.
Any suggestions which class if any tend to require drivers?

It's the first race of the season so we only have registered driver number to guess from, but GTC is looking light in this division.

 ;) i'll be in my juicy little Porsche Cup!

Thanks for your reply.

So it's OK for me as a reserve to pop in for P2 in a GTC and see if there's room?

Yep - if you can get in, there's room. :D

Thanks for the info.  :wheelchair:

I was trying to get to server to see everything is OK with carpack and so on but it says I have a bad password. I entered the one in this topic but it didn't work. Am I doing something wrong or is this some sort of a "reserve driver procedure"?

The practice password when not running a real race is ********.

Thank you.

Passwords are found on the password board (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?board=20.0) where they are protected from the great bad interweb ;)

It's only bad because you're on it picnic!  :angel:

Great....out early doors again due to ....as far as I can tell...a Dodgy circuit.!!  It wasn't a black hole this time though..Took a little too much curb in to the uphill chicane before the last turn and got swept over to the left hand side...controlled the spin and pointed back at the track and must have found a pot hole with similar attributes to the grand canyon. As soon as the fronts touched I was on my roof, and out.

I was enjoying that too...had a bit af a battle with Eddie Meyer for a few laps till I managed to power past him on the S/F straight with the Vipers extra umph. Then caught Ozzie in another Viper and was glued to his rear for a couple of laps...it looked like it would have been a good tussle. :(

Grats to classn winners and podiums.

Disaster, "Thread Stuck In Device Driver" Microsoft tell me. Right in the middle of turn 1, so I hope everyone avioded the accident I probably had  :-\

Up until then then race had been going quite well except for when I managed to change in to 1st (from 5th) going around the first corner. Not sure how - one extra downshift I'll blame on myself for pressing the lever twice but that's 3 extra shifts  :o I was following 3 beamers at the time that I was hoping to jump at the pit stops as I was expecting they would need more fuel than me. Never know now. Hope everyone had a good race.

Nowhere near pb in qually which left me in 24th.  Race started ok then made a few little mistakes because of obvious set up faults which gave me no chance to compete with rest of class.  

I struggled on and started to get lapped by higher classed cars which was expected.  I tried to give as much space as possible to be lapped, but what I hadn't banked on was some inconsiderate driving from cars lapping which at times hit me and forced me off the road. Why try to over take in to corners?

So if you were lapping me and ended up worse off serve your f*****g right. :death:

There are slower people out there in slower cars that just want to enjoy racing and there are the odd few that ruin it for the rest of us.  

Damn run outta gas ??? Not that annoyed at that, jumping at people who drive with lights one (everyone except leader of course) >:( . Its so ruddy rude, distracting and inconsiderate.

I FINISHED, I FINISHED!!!

 :jumpjoy:

Thank you for letting an unknown reserve driver race with you. Or long, long way behind you. ;D

Battle filled race for me.

Didn't get PB in qually and ended up 8th, which was far behind Paul968. I wanted to stay close to him due to pitstop strategy, but it didn't go that way.

I had some GT2 cars infront of me, and a few helped me by building sand castles. Then I was behind Gomes Silva and a long battle started. Just check the lapchart in a few minutes, the gap was always below 1s. At one point I overtook him and had to drive hard to keep him behind me. Luckily Dave said the Nissan is very reliable, so I kicked it's tail the whole race, just to see engine health being 60% at the end  :o, which is blowpoint  :laugh:.
After many laps behind me, I thing Gomes had enough and started attacking hard, and shoot infront of me so I could take inside again and keep leading  :). This happened a few times and Backo came close. At some backmarkers I lost alot of time and both drivers past me. Till the pitstop I could trail them and keep close.
I thought my stop strategy would win me alot in pits, but as this track is really slow, hardly anybody had to refill and I didn't win anything. So I had to overtake on track, which is much more fun.
Overtook Gomes halfway in my 2nd stint and slowly drove off when he made a mistake. I then saw TT infront at about 3s.
It was a matter of winning some, losing some. With 10 minutes to go I was slowly gaining and with 4 minutes to go TT went off at the last corner  :(. Real shame as it was gonna be a very tight finish.

Finished 3rd overall and 2nd in class, again behind Paul968, who masters Valencia in the RS. It will be hard getting him with him in this shape :).

Grats Simon on the GT2 win, Paul968 on the GTC win and Madd-RIP for the win in GT3 class :thumbup2:

That was very very hard work.

Had a PB in qually for 2nd, but it was always going to be hard with Paul968, Ruskus, and Backo breathing down my neck in their still-suscpiciously-fast-GTCs.  I managed to hold it together for a few laps, but going wide on a corner on a couple of laps let Paul and Ruskus through, got a tap from Backo (cheers for waiting), which dropped me a few more places back.  As we came to lap Bill I missed my brake point for T1, and then I got completely caught out by him later that lap or the next and scared the crépe out of myself and rear ended Bill in the process - really sorry, I didn't think I'd catch you so fast through that corner.  I had an almost identical brown trouser moment later in the race with Bill, narrowly missing contact - you'd have thought I'd have learnt after the first one! ;D  Sorry again for that.

As I was now a fair bit further down the field than I was hoping, I took a chance in the pits and just did a splash and dash in the M3.....rookie error.  I drove the M3 for all of S4 - so why the heck I thought this was clever I'll never know.

I made up some ground through the short-stop, but that was short-lived, and the second half of the race was less about me racing anyone else, but it was me against the car to see who would break first.  I was struggling to keep it together, and thanks to the guys I was lapping, if you hadn't let me through I think I'd only have had a chance on the s/f straight.

I had "tyres worn" for the last ten minutes and my laptimes were shot to pieces.  In the end I had Darren closing me down at something like 4 seconds a lap .... 1/4 of a lap more and he'd have flown by - unlucky mate.


I don't know where I could have finished had I not been a complete tit (the bird again - no obscenities from me  :angel: ) and made such a crépe (see what I'm doing here ;) ) decision in the pits - but rest assured I'll NEVER make such a daft choice again......

Cheers all - another fun (and thoroughly knackering) evening.

To knackered to wright a post on this race,i'll do it tomorrow.

Awwww. Nuts.

Was going reasonably well, having good battles with John (Pseudo) and P_Silva(Sonic), and Johan, plus a few others, and the car was handling nicely. Was about 15th mostly. Then, 3 minutes from the end, I start seeing smoke from the back of the Fezza.

No amount of short shifting could save it, it was doomed. With 2 minutes to go, I pulled off at Turn 7 and the engine finally died :( Gutted doesn't come close.

Ah - wondered how I was suddenly reeling you in so fast. :-\

Knew I needed to get ahead and stay ahead in GT3 for as long as possible to mitigate the Viper's thirsty habit and long stop - Madd-RIPP was never going to be in my sights, but got the jump on SbG's 811 and just drove and drove, concentrating on hitting apexes and early exits knowing that there was no way he'd get past the VCC's awesome (and ridiculously reliable - 94% health at the end!) V10. I knew that if the cars being held up behind - SbG and later PRibeiro - could stop early, the game was up.

TBH, had Ginsters actually put some petrol in it I'd never had got on the podium - Valencia is far too twisty despite its long front straight to use the Viper's strength. Monza will be a different story, though fuel consumption will still be an issue.

I thought I was "oh so smart"  :P  to let you slowly close the gap towards the end, though I was still driving on the edge. Or over it, as I had a lock up and the steering was gone even as I lifted off the brake.  :(  DAMN !   ;D   I'll never have the chance again.  :winkiss:

I was driving "sparingly" in the first stint, wanted to save as much fuel as possible. And I did, just changed my tires in the pits. I had enough fuel then to really push, but I only managed to get my tires worn sooner.  ;D  Hope I can keep Fezza this high through more races.  :thumbup1:

Sorry to Robert - I cocked it up at the last, upper going chicane and it cost you places.  :(  It was a mistake, not a dirty move.  :no:  I'm sorry, hope I can make it up to you.  :)

And for that sneaky Shark, why I oughtta...  :wetfish:  Grats, very fast and consistent.  8)  It's Pauls fault, he was too slow.  :P   :1eye: :alien: :1eye:

Good show, Legends.  8)  Too bad others were missing.  :(

TT

Unofficial lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Valencia Lower Endurance 09-09-2007/index.html)

 :) After the server test on Friday I was quite confident with the setup I had so left it alone for this race.

Managed a good quali with SBG a little closer than I would have liked but I kept missing a couple of apexes in quali, so tbh was pretty happy with GT3 pole.

As for the race I decided to try and be consistent as I possibly could and not cook my tyres too early, in fact they lasted better than I could have hoped which enabled me to play my trump card and pit late so giving me the slight advantage of a lighter car and new tyres, plus the fact that I'd fueled the car to the end so I could make a quicker pitstop, it all worked out perfectly.

I was always worried about the Vipers' grunt on the straights but I was lucky as they got involved in a scrap in the first stint so I managed to eek out a little cushion and by pacing myself to Dave and SBG  could maintain the gap  ;D .
Must say lapping cars (in my situation) were very good and didn't lose too much time when letting them pass, but its not the best track for this tbh.
Chuffed with probably my best race in terms of no cock-ups and pretty consistent laptimes and a good pitstop ever in GTR2, roll on Monza, where my Porker will be a right little fat piggy  :D

Race weekend was ok for but I expected more :(.I did in qualification nice lap my PB and I took 4th place on grip.Race start ok I've been push very hard nad I had nice challenge with A.Parle M3,his M3 looks very nervous so I tried pushed him,but ones he was breaking early (now I know why,more fuel ;) and I litle touch  his back of car and he spin(sorry mate). I've been waiting for him ,so we lost some positions.Then I had nice racing with TT,also close racing with him ,we had some contact but TT manage to stay on track,well done mate! :oThen I've been lead 5 laps when I went to pitstop which cost me top 3 !!!(bloody fuel I took it!!!=cost me about 20s more stay in pit ::)!!!Finished 6th,but not happy :(Thx for nice race and congratulation top 3 each class!!! :thumbup2:

Wow, haven't been in that position for quite a long time, not since the early GTR 1 days. Was expecting to do reasonably well in this championship but didn't expect pole in a car I had not done any practice in at all.

Managed a 1:33 in one of the practice sessions, but no matter how much I tried I couldn't quite scrape into the 1:33s in the real qualification session managing to take pole by 0.4 with a 1:34.0.

Was quietly confident going into the race assuming the GTC drivers that got good qualification times would not be able to match those when it came to medium tyres and race fuel. And that it where my plan almost fell down. You GTC guys were amazingly quick, although I suspect the twistiness (well I hope anyway!) of Valencia made the GTC and GT2 battle closer I am in awe at the times you were doing in the GTC cars. I was 1-2 seconds slower when I raced GTC in the Lower Sprint so I'm glad I had a GT2 car!

Race started and I slowly built my pace up. With Adam slowly dissapearing in my mirrors I saw no reason to really push it. The M3 was a bit of a struggle on a full fuel tank, but I could still lap as fast as I needed to. After a while Paul got past Adam and I thought, great I can cruise now, so I was driving very smoothly and carefully with an eye on the possibility of conserving enough fuel to not even have to fill up at the pit stop. Unfortunately, for me, Paul had different ideas and after I made my one and only stupid mistake half spinning into the tight left hander at the beginning of the circuit my 6 second lead was gone and he was right on my tail. Don't worry I thought, just drive with your eyes ahead and you'll be fine. This was true, but with my heavy M3 and wearing tyres it was getting increasingly difficult especially on the brakes to stop the heavy thing. I controlled my pace and was prepared to let Paul get about 1 second behind but no closer, I knew he would find it difficult to overtake as surely my M3 was faster down the straights. This didn't seem to be a problem and I controlled the race up front even with Paul so close I didn't really feel under pressure and didn't have one of those races where I was looking in my mirrors more than in front.

Knowing that even with a small amount of fuel I needed to put in at the stop with my well drilled pit crew I was a bit worried that Paul would make up time in the pits having to take on less or no fuel. I came in one lap after Paul, took on a new set of mediums and put in another 10 or so litres of fuel, off I went and was pleased to see I'd gained 5 seconds in the pits. Had dropped down to 4th or 5th in the pits but knew I would get all those places back as others stopped so was very pleased that it looked like a win if I just held it together.

With a lighter car in the second stint I could push harder and duly dropped into the 1:34s to make sure I got fastest lap and then went back to driving smoothly and consistantly. I seemed to lose more time in traffic than Paul and he managed to close the gap again, but I was never worried he could overtake me (as I had some extra speed in the bag) so wasn't concerned even when he managed to get under a second behind me with only a lap to go. I've learnt over many many years of online sim racing that unnecessary pushing under pressure near the end of a long race is a recipe for disaster so just drove my own race with my eyes on the tarmac ahead. It's also advantageous to know where you need to be fast and where it doesn't matter so I controlled my lap speed with the important corners in mind.

In the end it was a victory that I was very pleased to win, even being able to control the race up front I could not let up very much at all with Paul keeping my very honest in his Porker. Hats off to you Paul, very quick in that RS.

Sorry for the long report, it's the end now. ;D

Well done to Paul on his GTC win and Madd-Ripp on the GT3 win.

P.S. Thanks to all the cars being lapped, the standard of driving was as normal very high and I thank you for your sporting driving.

Good race - enjoyed that one, although didn't qualify as well as i would have hoped to - bit of the pace compared to the rest of the GT2's...
But had a busy race - sorry to Prof for tapping you on T2 m8 - but had some great racing with you later on - albeit us both being in different classes, but good stuff...!
I think i made the mistake also of not filling up with fuel for the full race distance - made my stop seem to take forever.
Anyway - good racing all...i thought that the standard of driving was excellent from 1st to last.
See you at Monza.

Good fun race that.

Knew I was in trouble when Dave qualified just behind me and he duly wizzed past me into T1. Much fun ensued as I tried to pressurise him into a mistake with no luck, although his team mate picnic did his best to put him off ;). Realised that I wasn't gonna get past with him driving well, and with PR catching us both up, decided to pit early knowing he would have to take longer in his stop. With a clean track, and only one rather silly rejoiner slowing me down, this strategy worked and when things settled down I had 10 second gap on him but not enough gas to bring it home :-[. Now wish I stayed on track and carried on the fight wih Dave and PR instead of pitting.

Congrats to Shark, Paul (amazing pace), Mad ripp and PR who was flying in the ickle bmw.

Don't think that was me  :P Wouldn't dare upset one of the team owners  ;D

Owner? I'm just a thick racing driver. :D Nah, one car did put me off at one point but it definitely wasn't a Shark...

 ::) Just one thing guys its  Madd-RIP  :P

And that after almost 2 years, they'll never learn  :no:

 ;D ;D ;D

What a great race!  :) Just squeezed into 3rd on the grid behind Adam in his M3. The first few laps were tricky trying to pressure Adam into a mistake without giving Backo a sniff in this Morgan, and thankfully I got past around lap 4. Chasing Simon's M3 was a struggle to start with, especially as my rear tyres were too hot and got even hotter every time I pushed. At about lap 13 Simon made a mistake and the gap came right down, and we then spent the rest of that stint in close company. Towards the end his tyres were clearly a problem, and although mine were not great either I think I had more pace at that stage.

I hoped to use the pits to jump ahead so I pitted first, but I fluffed the entry (slowed too early and then wasn't sure about whether the limiter was on). Needed a tiny splash of fuel and then came out hoping to put in a fast couple of laps, but things went wrong after a misunderstanding with Ossie :o. The contact left me with some sort of damage but also a huge judder in the steering for the next lap, which really slowed me down (My MSFF wheel does this after hitting curbs too hard, posts at MC, etc, sometimes pulling hard to to one side in random pulses, but stops after a lap or so - does this happen to other wheels?). The upshot of all this was the loss of several seconds to Simon, who emerged 2 laps later on fresh tyres and with a lot more pace.

After the pitstops had shaken out, I was starting to look at the gap behind, wondering if Ruskus was going to come charging back on soft tyres, but Simon pulled me along at a fast enough pace to extend the gap. As we neared the end he started to slow with tyre problems and I detected a chance of glory. I was closing in with about 5 to go but then ran wide  at the last corner trying to get on the power too early, and then needed several more laps to get back on terms again. Even so, as we started the last lap I was within a second, and this came down through the lap. Coming into the last corner I had one last effort trying to stay as far right on the entry as possible to get a run onto the straight (and also hoping to unsettle Simon). Unfortunately I bit off a bit too much curb, spun it and Simon slipped out of my grasp and over the line. With a big gap to 3rd though I had plenty of time to rejoin and take 2nd.

Thanks to all those I lapped - no complaints at all  :thumbup1:(although I'm sure those sneaky Sharks managed to gain a little breathing space for Simon  :shifty: :P). Lapping the Viper though is a PITA - it has more power down the straight and is too slow in the corners to get a good run on . Congrats to Simon for a typically controlled win and to Madd-RIP (happy now?  ;)) for a dominant drive in the Cup car.

Valencia is definitely one of my favourite tracks, so I won't be this near the front very often, especially next time out at Monza - yuck!

I had a MSFF wheel years ago, and I can remember this thing happening (in Midtown Madness  ::)). I think it's the wheel and it's REALLY worth to buy a G25...really, I'm super cerial :-X.


I was even destroying mediums all rounds and killing the engine by dropping the health down to 60% ::)

Out of interest, how do you know what the engine health is?

GTR²-XD (http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=292968)

You can use a key to skip the three pages like this (http://forum.rscnet.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=427851&d=1183321340)
There you can see the engine health in the 2nd page (left middle op screen, you can decide where you want this tool on your screen).

Or you can have them all on at the same time liek this (http://forum.rscnet.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=427852&d=1183321340).

Now you can see engine health bottom right near the revs (at the picture 93%).

I did exactly the same thing - especially dumb after I did the same in the Upper Endurance race and had vowed to actually practice the pit entry. :-[


I don't know what you mean. :angel: :angel: :angel: :laugh:

Owner?! Don't give him ideas above his station! Co-founder, not co-owner. ;D :P

Thx Jeff. Not sure if it will work with my DX7 graphics - I'll have to give it a try.

Aren't you meant to use teal when you fib?  :D

[makes mental note to save this thread as evidence to submit to the FIA]

IIRC it only works with DX9  :(

In the thread you posted the link to, some reported it working fine in dx7, so I might try it anyway just in case.

Oh good :). Guess my memory is already getting dodgy  ;D

Being nearly twice your age, that makes me feel so much better!  ::)  :wheelchair: ;D

I am using DX7 configured on mine and I use GTR-XD all the time ;)

I'm safe - you're not Ferrari. :D

Does Motec have to be running also to feed the info through to GTR2XD, or does GTR2XD extract this info from GTR2 and run on its own?

Don't really know, but I have nothing extra running. I don't even have MOTEC installed on my PC.

I think it just uses the same 'output' as MOTEC but I dont think you need 'DATA AQUISITION' running for it.

I'll give it a test out tonight, i think this would be really useful - i can't belive i have missed this! Does everyone here use it??

Thanks for the up guys 8)