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Practice 1:	20:10	(10 mins)	full time drivers only
Practice 2:	20:20	(10 mins)	reserves may join too
Qual 2:	20:30	(20 mins)
Warmup:	20:50	(5 mins)
Race:	20:55	(40 minutes)

Cars allowed: any GT2 or GTC from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.6.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519)
Weather: Dry
Track: UKGTR Monza GP (download as part of the UKGTR Track Pack v1.2 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519))
Race Start Time 14:00
Pit Stops: no mandatory stop

Server: UKGTR Lower Sprint
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=59). Reserves (anyone without a full time spot) should not join until the stated session, regardless of the time.
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack and track pack (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).

Wot no chit chat? :D

Weathers nice today. :)

I was keeping quiet and hoping everyone would forget so I could get some points  :-*

I think everyone had forgotten you could get some points!

 ;D ;D ;D

lol, its freezing  :-X

should be a good race  ::)

Hi Guys,

Just installed the skinpack(2.6) and the trackupdate(1.2),but unfortunatly i can not enter the server ,it says:running a modified or updated version.The first time i got:track not availble.Any clue?

Jan

I was going to join in tonight, but have to go fix my mother-in-law's computer instead :D

Can you load UKGTR Monza ok for a local game? I assume the error was track modified / updated, you are running the latest GTR2 update.

Yes i can load UKGTR in a local game so what do i do now Pete?

Have you reinstalled GTR2 lately and just forgotten to apply the 1.1 update?

Can you enter other servers with standard tracks okay?

 ::) Lets hope my engine lasts this time!  ;)

i  can enter all except ours :o
i do the 1.1 again lets see what happens

Jan

No luck.Could it be the no-cd patch?

Jan

Doubt it, most of us are using the no-cd patch I believe. Can't understand your problem as we've not changed the server config for a while and we've obviously been connecting ok ourselves  :-\

After being away for a wee bit whilst moving house and so on i have a question,
Success ballast.... I am correct in thinking there is software on the server that takes care of this or do we have to pick the correctly ballasted car as we join?

munk

The Skin Pack provides a base ballast for each car, you need this for the skins anyway. The individual driver ballasts are handled purely by clever code on the server  :)

Reinstalled GTR2, works, cu tonight.

Jan

Surely my computer handles the calculations for my car and just reports the positions of the others on the track. Does it mean more network traffic having to talk to the server before doing anything? It just sounds a bit strange thats all, witchcraft :D

I might not make it tonite as i'm not feeling too well, not sure i can concentrate on driving for that long! Its pretty tiring, though thats probably due to me fighting the car most of the time :) Err.. not to mention that braking is a weakness of mine so never really like the circuit.

If you mean the ballasts, it just makes use of capabilities in the server and network protocol which aren't normally exposed by the dedicated server. So no extra traffic.

what do you think the chances of a reserve driver racing tonight are? Before I spend an hour and a half practicing befor the race, (like sunday :( ) I would just like to know if I have a chance of actually being able to race.

Good chance of a slot. Poor turn out last time and there is football on tonight too.

hrmm practice server password is incorrect ???

I wouldn't be so sure - that was for the upper sprint. The lower sprint is always very popular and had 28 drivers last time.

Did you use the normal practice pwd or the race one?

its working now, it just took 5809235895 tries and 3 reconnects to the lobby

ehh right ,was on the phone,when i got in the lobby at 8.23, 28/28 game full >:(

cu next time,

jan

I give up.  This season has been a complete nightmare so far....

I struggled through practise to come to terms with the negative ballast.  I finally found a decent setup late in qualifying and managed 2 flying laps.  The first was looking to be a very low 1:51 until it was spoilt by a spinner, and with my second and last attempt I managed a 1:51.5 which got me 5th in class.

However, my PC decided to disconnect during warm up which meant I couldn't rejoin.  :'(

Really disappointed because I felt competitive here.

I hope you guys have more luck than me. 

I KNOW the feeling Darren  :'(
My 6th season, its been a huge nightmare aswell.
All races so far i had or someone hitting me, or weird PC behavior.  :nuke:
Tonight, just when the qual session finished, my  :censored: PC rebooted himself  :2guns:
and i couldnt be able to rejoin in warmup session also  :censored:
Hope you had fun guys.
Cheers

My race was over in the rolling start. Someone in a Shark Morgan spun comming out of Ascari, and was spinning into the direction I was exiting at. Hit him fairly hard, I lost my front chin spoiler, he lost his hood.

We both had to pit in for repairs before even going past the finish line. Was thinking of quitting out then, but I figure I'm not gonna have many chances to race in GTR2, and I felt like making a pylon for the leaders.

Came out of my repairs ahead of the Morgan, and was 30 seconds behind 23rd. Weaseled my way into 19th, and had some pressure on the final two laps for it. Unfortunatley my tyres were cooked and I had a hard time "Turning it on" to keep my position. Luckily I kept it and joined into the destruction derby in 19th.

I was almmost 10 seconds off 1st, I don't know how you guys do it. I struggled to get a 1:53:4 in practice and the majority of the feild is in 1:50 territory.

That was much better than I expected, got a much better time in qually than on Sunday night, lost a spot in the opening laps to one of the hard-charging RVS Moslers, had to battle with them and with Ossie's cwazy toothpaste M3, had to let Shark's better set up 350Z by early on.

Glad I took mediums all round as the car was nice an consistent through the whole event. A second 4th... I'll settle for that!

Good result for team Shark in GTC 1st-4th  ;D

Did a PB in qually and got pole in class and 7th overall. The Beamer of Adam was impossible to gain and I had no chance to move up the grid.
So I had to focus on Colin in his RSR behind me. Very close racing for few laps untill he made a textbook outbraking manouvre  :thumbup1:.

Then Zacari was behind me gaining fast, but luckily for me the race stopped at 21 laps.

Grats to Mo for the overall and GT2 win.

I'll struggle badly at Adria with the Mosler and all the extra weight  :surrender:

Sorry Mr BMW sir that was me being a ****. Surprised you hit me though I was losing it, catching it, losing it for some while until the armco put paid to any final chance of recovery. I am a muppet  :-\

Rest of race was following the cars a lap up on me, getting close and then losing it under braking. Back to my slow setup for Sunday I think.

B'ah another lacklustre performance from me at monza   :(

Qualied 11th, finished 10th after dropping two places to bloody sharks  

The car felt fine for 25 mins chasing colin H and ruskus hard for lap after lap, quite enjoying myself, then i merely touch the kerb apex as usual at 2nd lesmos and it pulls me into a slow spin. >:(
Zacari got past me then and i lost 8 seconds.
Then with about 10 mins to go my tyres just feel like ice at the chicanes and i have to tiptoe through every time until i had another poxy spin, allowing shark past
But i wasnt having Shark beat me in a GTC so chased him like the devil (apart from the tippytoe chicanes ) and got my 10th place back using the porkers grunt and a good toe down the s/f straight to breeze past.

Really struggle at Monza, never found a setup that handles those kerbs right. If anyone has one for the Porsche, please donate it to a cluelesshomeless Legend  ;) as it pains me no end to not be competitive here in a 911.

Well done to my teamies Ad and TT, and congrats to the podium guys  8)

Thanks Jeffery, really enjoyed that. I'm not a fan of Monza and I honestly thought I'd struggle here. Was really happy with a top 10 qually. Made a decent start and the car felt really good so I concentrated on getting a good pace together. Tyres were starting to go on the last few laps and missed my line a few times allowing Jeffery to get close again. Managed to hold on the a rather pleasing 7th!

Congrats to Mo and the podium. And you Jeff for the GTC class win. Some driving in the Mosser.

I'll give you one after the Monza races ;). If you want it earlier, post a picture of you in a tutu  ;D

Naah, I'll see what I have and sent it before sunday. :)

Did ok in quali but made too many mistakes to get near my pb, so 'cos I detonated my Mosler V8 last time out I went all girly with the rev limiter......and didn't it cost me!
Got eaten alive on the straights then took too many grededy grabs at the kerbs and got my chops slapped with a big wet kipper, luckily managed to miss most of the armco but car was a pig to get to turn in after and couldn't stop the sharks mugging me...damn and blast!
Still at least Dan and i finished!  ;D

Provisional results above, replay can be found here (https://replay.simracing.org.uk/ukgtr/UKGTR%20Monza%20-%20Lower%20Sprint%20070918.zip)

Provisional standings are here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=59)

Finally had a bad race (no great surprise at Monza). Lap 1 I had stuttering at every corner, just at the wrong time, and this was playing havoc with my corner exits. I got gobbled up by Colin, and then on the approach to T1 on lap 2 I was watching the guys behind so hard that I missed my braking point by miles. The only option was to whizz past on the escape road, which gave me an instant stop/go, so I kept going knowing that I wouldn't ultimately gain places. I didn't want to hold anyone up though, so I let Jeff through, and then a couple more cars into the 2nd chicane, but it was a bit messy getting through it offline and down on speed - sorry Zacari if I held you up. After the stop go I was miles back, but I was gaining hand over fist on Rob, until I pushed a bit too hard and got a second stop/go. That was race over, so the rest was a test session for next sunday. Congrats to Mo for the GT2 win and Jeff in GTC. At least this means I lose most of the ballast  :)

Most ... consistent ... race .... ever.

Did about as well as I could in qually.  Without the ballast I might have been challenging for the pole, but got 7th in the end.  (TT you bugger - pipping me by a tenth with your last bloody lap!!!!!!)  I was very happy to qualify in front of Ruskus in the Mosler - that thing was made for Monza - it's bloody quick.  I did fear that I'd lost touch with the leaders through defending for my life.....

...but I'm happy to report Ruskus was never a threat (blimey - never expected to be typing that! ;D ).  I was pulling out a few tenths each lap on him, and similarly the guys in front were pulling away from me at about the same pace.  That meant I had no overtaking to do apart from backmarkers - and there were no problems at all with them - cheers guys, you made it really easy.  Still, to lap for 40 minutes with all my laps within a second - that's massively consistent and that's the most pleasing thing.  I wasn't under threat of losing position unless I cocked up, so although the pressure was off I never lost focus as I have done in the past.

Although I got close to 5th through his getting held up with backmarkers or screwing up T1 - I never looked like making up a place.

Pretty dull race as racing goes - but I'm really pleased with it from a driving standpoint.  After the crap race in the Morgan in the Upper Enduro for everything to go so well was huge.  Also, given that I'll have a much lighter M3 for the race on Sunday - a good finish is looking possible.



Unlucky on the disco Darren - it really isn't your season is it! :(

What does teh red weights mean in results?

Erm - looking at the results my ballast is showing as -20kg for the driver?  As I finished 3rd in class at Valencia shouldn't that be a positive value?

[EDIT] Or is that a typo?  I was slower than I was offline by a good second - and I could have sworn it looked right in game?

Well it's not really  :-\. I was doing 172 mph, and Carl's TVR was going 280kph. Also the 350Z is just as quick. And I was even running wing 1-2, so I couln't win much more. That disappointed me a bit, thought the car was a beast down the straight.

Of course I meant it's quick it your hands ;) .

I was only hitting 176 offline, and was nowhere near that tonight with the changed weight.

Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Monza LS 18-09-2007/index.html)

Nightmare race for me.

Got away ok and was happily following Eddie M untill my back end just snapped under breaking into turn 1. Think my car somehow avoided making contact with other cars, but it did 'kiss' the armco front on. 1 1/2 laps later I exited the pits after a totally new front end was fitted.  ::)

Caught another armco a little later when getting a couple of wheels on the grass allowing lapping cars past causing another trip to the pits for a puncture.

I would have quit at this point...no umphh left to carry on but I saw that my two teamies had left early so stuck around to the end.

Think I'll be glad to see the back of this track.

Grats to winners and podiums.

Left early due to being beached!
After spinning at seconda variante lost postion from ninth down to 16th, then a caught ossie and had a good tussle with him for a bit then span at seconda variante again getting a rear left puncture in the process, tried to limp back to the pits, but the rear end stepped out somewhat at ascari putting me deep in the gravel and just couldnt get out  :'(
SHOULD have really got a wee bit more practice in!

Munk

Monza being the home of Ferrari it was great to see lots of 360s high up the grid, proving that the ballasting is working imo. Cant remember the last time I saw so many fezzas 8)

Nice but uneventful race for me, cant remember the last race I won. Managed to pull out a bit of a gap over the first lap which I was glad of later on. Noticed Baracus come up through the field in my mirrors and looked to be flying. Baracus was just a couple of secs behind for the whole race. We had identical pace and I remember the gap being 3.1 secs exactly for about 5 laps - amazing! Nice driving btw. I made a couple of small mistakes here and there and the gap fluctuated a bit but always settled back to about 2 secs. Always felt under pressure though...tense stuff.

Grats to Ruskus and the podiums.


I was 0kg in game (after missing the first race) and the results show me as -20kg too. If its a mistake can I use it for the next race? ;) ;D

I'm pretty sure the weights were right in the game - I'll investigate tomorrow but I suspect that the import process has simply written the wrong weights in - if so it's not a big deal to fix them. The red ones are ones where the expected ballasts don't appear to match the recorded ballast.

Yep, as I suspected the import process was wrongifying the ballasts, all fixed now. ;D

Cheers Dave.

That was a cool nearly race-long chase of Mo!! Wicked stuff.

Started 4th and got passed Paul R at the 1st chicane by pulling a bit of a Lewis on Raikonnen (but not from that far back, and I didn't lock my brakes ;P ) which felt a nice on the limit move. Then defaulted by TT when he went wide into gravel through Curva Grande (I think) and the case was on.

I think I didn't push hard enough from the start coz I had taken a different race setup (very diff from Q setup) and had not driven it for ages so was still finding the limit without going over it and easing myself into it. If I could have kept up with my own best race lap I may have caught Mo, but I was too consistent for my own good - trouble being it was consistently 0.6 slower then my 1.50.0 race lap!!

We were so evenly matched but also both making small mistakes that they gap remained between 2 and 3.6 seconds but it was very entertaining! Nice running Mo :)

Really enjoyed that. Quallied at the back of the grid, as per usual, but then had only one minor off at Ascari (fortunately had enough speed to plough thru the gravel and not lose too much time!). Again concentrated on consistency (thats my seasons watchword if you havent already noticed  ;D) and managed to come home 17th, 8th in class. I saw Paul968 was struggling, and new Eddie was doing well in front, so with 10 mins left decided to take it a little easier and make sure I scored - no chance of changing positions as I was 16 secs behind car in front, and 36 secs in front of chasing car. Thing is tho, I tended to make more errors when driving "relaxed" as oppose to when Im pushing - maybe my attitude had slightly changed, I dunno!

After 2 races this is already my most successful season (mmm... thats how well Ive done previously!!)

Congrats to Mo, Ruskus and podiums.

Cheers

Rob

Rob, totally agree on the whole relaxed = more errors thing.  That's why I struggle sometimes toward the end of a 40 minute race as driving at the limit for that long makes the old brain ache, but relaxing too far makes the mind wander.  There's a fine line in there somewhere for those that can find it.

Yep - I'm in agreement as well - last night was a triumph of concentration for me.  With a couple of seconds gap in front and behind it would have been only too easy to lose focus and meet a barrier at speed.  That said I was pretty relaxed - but I think that a rock-steady setup helped, no brown trouser inducing tendancies  in it.

That means your wing was too high.  ;D

TT

Why what wing were you running TT? ;D

edit, forgot to mention our little battle at the start of the race  :)  You were absolutely flying in the opening laps and kept me under some serious pressure.

Nail... head... hit... :D

For me I need something, almost anything, to focus myself. Last night it was the Moslers ahead, then the knowledge that Shark was on softs and might just start to struggle late in the race. No looking at lap times, doing fuel calculations in my head, looking at the gap to the car behind. Just 100% concentration on hitting every apex and getting on the gas as early as possible.

Oohh yes, that definitely can affect me - especially if I see someone closing on me, I start thinking how close they`re getting instead of concentrating on what I should be doing, and before you know it Ive spun and the gap is closed!!

Cheers

Rob

1/1, mo.  :)  Otherwise I couldn't stay as close to you and Barracus. Also, Mark McClean would be chewing at my  :whistling: on the straights.  :D  As it was, his Porsche could catch up only if towed in my slipstream, but not fast enough to overtake. He then closed the gap again through the corners. Now I know how Shark felt when I was chasing him around Valencia in his high torqued Viper.  ::) 

TT

Ran with 1/1 for the race too, although I did qual on 1/2. I think its a bit quicker overall with one click more on the rear, but a bit risky on the straights with a porker behind as you say :D

In my case its, Nail... Head... Armco... Hit...  ;D

this is probably the exact problem I suffer. Far too concerned with what everyone else is doing to worry about what I'm doing myself.

I had Carl behind to keep me focussed, but notmally when I'm alone I try to beat my best lap, even if I know it's impossible on worn tires. It keeps me a bit focussed.

When I try that I usually go off. :-\ Probably why I don't qualifying well either. :D

Preventing that will get you focussed ;D

Who's Carl?  ;)

That'll be the imaginary friend that spurs Ruskus on to going so blinking fast ;)

Carl a.k.a Zacari  ;D. I haven't reached Legends' age to see imaginary friends yet. :P

Maybe a tip for getting faster:

Imagine your wife running away with another guy, and the car behind you trying to return her to you  :P.

Was I not behind you Ruskus..... ???

Nah - the problem the Legends have isn't poor eyesight, or imaginary friends .... it's all the cigar smoke in the cockpit......

Yes for the first part, but the 2nd half I had Zacari behind me, gaining fast in his TVR.

I knew I could never keep you behind me for the whole race and it was just a metter of time untill you came past...which you did in a very good way.

 ;D ;D