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Practice 1:	20:00	(10 mins)	full time drivers only
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Warmup:	20:50	(5 mins)
Race:	20:55	(80 mins)

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Race Start Time 14:00
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What should be a competetive NGT time for this track?
I see above that the NGT lap record is 1:48.xx  ::) but i'm a bit off this ATM - 1.54.xx  :(
What have peeps been getting out of interest?

The fastest GTC drivers were in the 1:51's last night in qualifying if that helps :)

I'll try to get in and toodle along in the 811 if theres room. Not much chance of holding up the GTC boys, or anything else, this week :)

Thanks pops - best get some praccy in and sort my set up  :D

hiya,
how do I sign up to be a reserve for these races, if thats possible?

I'm going to have to miss this one - gutted.  With the sprint race behind me, and a lighter car I was hoping to get a result here.

Hope you guys have a good race.

No reserve signup, just turn up and see if there are places in Practice 2.

Looking forward to it after missing last couple of events with connection problems and work.

Was considering going with the 360 for this series as I like it better around Monza. It's more precise and you can point the nose at the right bits of the track as I'm worried about going 80 minutes without a stop and go.

After some thought I'm going to stick with the 911 and not be influenced by the results of the sprint.

See you all Sunday

I'll be there in the TVR, hopefully I wont blow the engine this week :laugh:

Noooooooooooo - got back just as the reserves all joined and I can't get in!  Have fun all.

For some reason the car felt heavier than earlier online and could get no where near my pb.  The race was going well after a few early ropey moments settled in and was about 7 -9 seconds behind Gizmo and 5 secs in front of next gt3.
 
All went tits up in the pits.  No tyres nor fuel were added and even emptied my fuel to prevent me doing another lap to pit.

Absolutely gutted.

Hope you all had a better time than me. 

In the same boat!! Delayed getting back in time due to traffic and couldnt get in... gutted.
Hope you all have fun, wont be around for the next round in sprint or enduro, off on hols!

munk

Apart from having a tad too much brake pressure causing some problems it was a fairly OK event.

Qually went well, although the ballast kept me from doing 49's.

Again an absolute terrible formation lap. 120mph, no pitlimiter??? Check the rules! >:(.

First few laps the M3 infront of me held me up a bit, especially in the corners, and TT was all over me. Eventually TT overtook me and drove off.

After that a pretty lonely race but a good result.

Grats John and Dave for their GT2 and GT3 class win.

Let's bring the heavy tanks to Adria ;D

B'ah Monza is still unkind to me even when i take one of its homelands finest in a 360  :'(

Was having a great race for first 25 minutes, having got past Mo, Backo and DeSilva? and running 9th close behind my teamie Don as we closed on Zacari. All was shaping up well, but a few laps later Don must have spotted some sexy Finnish bird in the crowd and appeared to slow right down at 2nd variante...i had to slam the anchors on more than needed :o and the car slid into an understeer slide into the inside armco :'(
It was the worst place to slide off as i couldnt rejoin on the blind inside corner of that fast complex and had to sit there whilst most of the rest of the field came through, losing 35 seconds in the process :( That is basically 'race over' at Monza. I had bad aero damage to the front too and seriously considered parking up for the night there and then as no way to make up that time loss.
I stuck to it and fought my way back up through the GTC field until i was showing 8th with 35-40 mins to go but after i pitted i came out 14th  ??? and just cruised around until the finish.
Shame as the Ferrari felt great here and could have been top 8 finish but the smash ferked my race completely.
Well done to the front runners and podium, great pace up front. 8)

That was a tiring race, but had a few good battles along the way.
Got a stop and go with 7 mins to go  >:( but my car/setup/driving skills (or lack of) seem to be still way off the pace from the rest of class.
Did anyone else experience any low framerate issues at the beginning of the race?
Normally Monza is fine on my system, but it was pretty bad for the first few laps...
Gotta get a shower now :D
Grats to all who entered, and podiums also.

Qualified 3rd to which I was rather pleased.

The start of the race was great fun with Robert Midderhoff, door handle to door handle around corner after corner and pulling off a few passes on each other. I'm sure Simon was just staying behind to watch the action. Must have looked good?

Finally pulled off a pass and made it stick. Got in to my routine and pulled out a decent gap between me and now 3rd pace Simon.

Started off with a full load and only needed small top up. Made pit stop near on half way, which was a costly mistake. I found myself in the thick of it with loads of cars now fighting me for position down the field. Most of the front runners jumped me at the pit stop which I'm not happy about!

Made a number of passes then my game started to freeze causing me to run off the track an find myself behind them all again.

After some different strategies I found myself back in 4th chasing Robert yet again

Lap after lap it was a great battle again, swapping positions and fighting to hold off each other. Really was superb and a great standard of driving.

A little mix up with a backmarker resulted in 170mph tank slappers for all of us and I was only too happy to steal the position.

Got a few seconds away and could relax and happy to finish 3rd.

Backmarkers were again excellent. There was two very big moments during the race. The one about and another where I found a car almost stationary on the racing line and looked to be stopped. Maybe his game froze, but I had to swerve and rammed the barrier hard.

Well done all especially Jeff and John for their wins and Robert for the battle

Well this race was all about damage limitation, I too was greatly hindered by my ballast, just as it should be!

The race started off badly with a quite silly formation lap tbh, the 2 cars behind me were miles away, most unfair. As for the race I had a great ding dong with sbg for an age, that ballast was killing my exit speed, I slowed down for him after someone baulked us at the 1st chicane and we both spun, seemed churlish to take the place as at the time i wasn't sure if I'd tapped him mid spin.

He finally made a mistake in the 2nd Lesmo and from there on I just tried to stay out of the way of the leaders.

A good result for RVS and about the best we could have hoped for on this track against the Vipers.

Replay (https://replay.simracing.org.uk/ukgtr/UKGTR%20Monza%20-%20Lower%20Endurance%20070923.zip) available, provisional results above and round 2 provisional standings here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=61)

:'( That was shaping up to be a great second half - in the end it was a very lonely cruise to the class win. :(

Was surprised to be way down in 4th in qualifying but despite the cwazy pace lap I made the expected Viper rocket attack on Ginsters' 811 and flew by long before the first turn. Managed to get onto Pseueueudo's tail quickly and we ran through the Lesmos side by side, unfortunately he must've dipped a wheel off and he turned sharp right across the track, collecting the 811 behind - Minton I think. :o

After that it was push, push, push trying to keep Ossie behind - I don't remember now how he got there! - which got tricky after about 30 minutes as the left rear was a bit toasty, but the gap stayed fairly constant so I guess he had the same problem. I realised just before the stop that I hadn't set any stop fuel in the garage so I wasted a few seconds getting it back up to a nice safe 95 litres; other than that it was a pretty slick stop. 8)

One really scarey moment lapping Bill who was meandering down the main straight, I only just made it by into turn 1 without going off or running into him. :o One other hairy moment lapping a slower car when Backo was exiting the pits, somehow we squeeked down towards the Retiffilio three abreast. :D

Mostly lonely race but pleased to have kept my concentration up so well again. Hard work letting everything but the M3 past as the Viper is so very quick in a straight line.

Well that worked out nicely in the end. Netted a 2nd place to add to my win from the first round.

Was worried about the extra ballast, but felt reasonably confident going in after doing some practice (quite a novelty for me in recent times). As expected with my extra success ballast I was about 0.8 down on what I could have done in qualifying and sure enough the negative ballasted drivers were ahead of me.

I had a really nice strategy worked out for the race, but that was thrown into confusion with the prediction of damp and cold conditions. With it being so cold I switched to softs for the first stint, instead of mediums. I intended to run a long first stint and then switch to softs for a fast car at the end, so I was a bit worried about how the softs would last compared to the mediums I had tested on. I switched my to 2 equal length stints instead of my original plan, but if the tyres lasted I was still ready to use plan A and do a long first stint.

Pace lap was driven at warp speed and I could see with the field stretched out so far that there was going to be a concertina pile-up. We came round the last bend and still not going slow, wondered whether John had forgotten about limiter at all. Sure enough sudden slow down and poor Darren behind me was caught out and gave me a Legends "hello". :) Dunno who else hit who else, but that was due to the pace lap being too fast and spread out. Have to remember with multi-class that lower classes can't keep up so you need the limiter by the last corner and also need a steady slow pace anyway so everyone can keep close-ish together, not be spread out and not have sudden slow down at end.

Into the race and to my surprise the softs were great, getting me to 50 minutes without a big problem. Had a good battle with RobM for a while near the start, but eventually I had a comfortable gap. Pit stop went smoothly, although I had some extra fiddling to tell them not to repair and put in slightly different fuel due to me changing back to original strategy. Came out and had gained a position on Brian 8).

Then I set to chasing down TrueTom who my team told me had already pitted. Was doing personal race best times catching him only for him to pit in again (stop go?) with me 3.5 seconds behind. Shame as that would have been an interesting finale.

Congrats to John, Jeff and Gizmo on their wins. Success ballast next race will hopefully bring John back into my clutches at the next race. :P

Big apology's for the pace lap,i haven't much experience with them as I'm usually mid grid.
If you were in my room watching me,you'd see pure pannick in my eyes :scared:
As for the race,it completely knackered me out,so I'll do the post tomorrow as i haven't got the energy at the moment.

Was a bit optimistic with the fuel, Simon.  :(  I drove sparingly all the race but in the end I'd still be 3 litres short (1 lap and two strides  :P ).  >:(  Should have been wringing that engine to the last drop of power instead.  ::)  Maybe next time.  ;)

TT

Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Monza LE 23-09-2007/index.html)

That was probably the best race I have had so far. still too many little mistakes but no major ones for a change.

Quali was good..got close to my pb and was pole up to the last few mins when Ossie blitzzed my time. Great lap mate 8)

I was shouting at John to slow down on TS2 during the warmup lap....It was a little fast for us back markers....but I'm sure he will have gained some experience from it and will be better next week when he has pole again :P ;D


 ??? You dissapeared Dave  :o...I saw that you had got an overlap approaching lesmo 1 so stayed wide to give you room expecting you to pull ahead...but when we got to lesmo 2 there was still no sign of you so I stayed wide again assuming you were in my blind spot....still no sign of you so I quickly pressed look behind to try and spot you and got a shock to find I still couldn't see you... :o. Doing this though made me catch the gravel with the front left and started to spin me....the only car visible to me during all this was SBG I think  ??? Sorry if I took anyone out. I didn't know anything about it untill reading the above from Dave  ::)

After that though I recovered quite well and steadily made headway up to 18th I think, and chasing Dan, a couple of seconds behind for a good few laps but slowly gaining....but I was in a Viper so had no choice but to pit around half distance for fuel and tyres. I peeled off and entered the pit lane, engaged the limiter (pressed the button anyway) slowed to below the limit and then floored the gas pedal in first to cruise to the garage. I must have either missed the limiter button or pressed it twice though as I rapidy accelerated to 70 odd mph....This cost me a stop 'n' go which probably cost me 2 or 3 places.

Totally enjoyed it though...it was nice to be on a similar pace to the rest of the class runners and maybe one day, I'll be able to stay on the track too ;D

Grats to all class podiums and winners....with a special  :jumpjoy: :yes: :clap: for John for gaining team Pseudo's first win....great pace and great racing mate ;)

Well done to the winners, congrats to all  :yes:
Thats how i felt during all race : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8xOMg6ca0U  :yawn:
unless when i meet Bill  :whistling:  :eek: dont know what to tell you mate.  :sweatdrop:
You just almost stop in the midlle, i know your intention was the best, but at the S/F straight,
its a bit danger brake like that, to first chicane, i was very scared  :scared: :scared: :scared:
hit you and got a stop and go  :surrender: i guess your car were bad, as you left race.
I knew that Z3 couldnt follow the other GT3 cars pace at Monza, but who cares?
I will race with it untill the final race  :P
Cheers

Good on ya mate...I don't like to change cars either, but I had to drop the vertigo in upper enduro though as nobody else was using it and I'm slow enough without that handicap ::)

I was shocked when i caught you into the paribolica, I thought the Viper turned slow :o :o...it was about all I could do to slam everything on to avoid rear ending you....sorry if there was any contact (didn't feel any myself but I was in a  :tank:)

Top drawer that :angel: No contact between us but thanks for waiting.


How I laughed as I hit pit limiter instead of pit in button and spun around ::). Real shame as I our mini battle was great fun. Not my best race though as my car was a horror, couldn't get enough heat in my med/med combo. Shame as I had good pace in quali and was desperate to put one over those nasty Vipers :)

Congrats to John, Ruskus, Paul and Dave for top performances. Also lapping was very good, apart from one misunderstanding :'(
Stick with it PR, I'm guessing the bimmer will be far more competitive at Adria.

Well thank God that I don't have to do that for another couple of seasons! Monza is just a horrible place, and in my case decided more often or not by how long I can stay 'awake'. First half of the race went pretty well, with my high downforce setup and soft tyres all round (thx to Mo for spotting the very low temps at the race start) giving me good pace, although not enough to stay in touch with Ruskus. As the pitstops approached though the tyres were starting to wilt, and Zacari was biting at my heels. In the end he made a clean pass into T1, and i was just thinking about pitting when he broke earlier than I expected at the 2nd chicance and I had to go off track to avoid rear-ending him. After extracting myself from the gravel I then compounded things by overshooting Lesmo 2, purely because I was chuntering away about the daft mistake a few corners before  ::) By the time I was up to speed, Zacari was long gone and I was fighting for 3rd at best.

I pitted and then a few laps later found Backo exiting the pits in front of me. I closed in over the next lap, and then we went side by side into T1, where he went far too deep on the inside, I cut back to the outside as we left the chicane and that left us approaching the 2nd chicane side by side again. I was fairly conservative but he went in a bit hot and claimed the place, but couldn't control the car on the exit and spun. Shame it didn't last longer really - fun fun fun  ;D

Near the end I saw Picnic ahead in 8th, and I didn't know if he'd pitted. I was closing rapidly, but the minutes were ticking away and it was going to be touch and go to get past. I was right behind with about 3 minutes left, but got caught out as he braked for Ascari, spinning and losing 3-4 seconds. I was just gearing up for a big final push when thankfully he pitted, which surprised me as I though he would have let me go before rather than risk a pass for position (not a problem Pete, just assumed you must be fighting for the place). That just left me to fend off a late charge from TT, who must have been frustrated to see me slip over the line just in front.

Quite happy to end up 3rd in the end. It would have been nice to beat Zacari or even Ruskus, but on my worst track and with a heap of extra weight the odds were always against it. Congrats to John, Jeff and Dave for the class wins and thx to those I lapped for being so accommodating  :)

Overall the race was great, qualified 9th behind Paul and less than .01 ahead of BACKO.  Despite the cold temperature I stuck with loads of fuel and mediums for the race.

After the carnage of the opening lap, (The leader should aim for a target speed on the straights of around 75mph, not 175mph :P ::)), I was struggling to keep in touch with Paul for the first few laps.  My front tyres were under 60 degrees with the low track temperature, and after 7 or 8 laps Don had closed right up on me.  We had a good battle for a few laps and in the end he made a good move stick through turn 1 :)  A couple of laps later I had a similar battle with BACKO, great racing and very close and fair.  Mo was closing on both of us, BACKO got a great run on me down the s/f straight but broke slightly too late into T1 and wisely didn't try to turn in fully- flashing me back by on the exit afterwards.  I think then he and Mo got into a tussle, and I was able to pull away slightly, but it was a great few laps 8)

Around lap 15 I suddenly found some more speed, the track temperature was climbing and my front tyres were behaving better.  By this time, Don had overtaken Paul and I managed to get passed into T1 after a few laps of chasing.  I was amazed how much earlier the RS needs to be on the brakes!  At half way the car was still quick, I was able to be within a tenth or two of my fastest lap every time round.

I steadily gained places as everyone pitted, ending up leading for a lap ;D before pitting with just under 20 minutes left.  I totally messed up my stop, I only needed a small amount of fuel and I took new tyres when I really didn't need to, and I forgot to turn the engine off too :-[ ended up taking almost 50 seconds which is shocking :o :( maybe my pitcrew had been at the legends alcohol stash while waiting for me to come in :laugh:

I came out of the pits right in front of Pete who had Don right behind him, but I had just enough time to get into T1 in front.  Jeff was way in front, I had no hope of catching him but I put in some fast laps trying to pull a gap on Don.  Then TT had two more pitstops which put me in 6th.  Don was about 7 seconds behind in 7th, when I noticed my engine health was very very bad :o so I backed off as much as I dared for the last few laps and thankfully the engine lasted 8)

Very happy with 6th, and 2nd in class behind Jeff who was as fast as ever :D


I'd forgotten about that :-[, I was having to be careful into the 2nd chicane as I'd already had a cut warning there, and the TVR was really unsettled over the bumps under that bridge.  I appreciate you missing me anyway :) though of course that's scant consolation :(

Grats to Jon, Jeff and Dave for their class wins 8)

Well that was one of my best showings so far in any season. The Beemer was a delight to drive here at Monza (thanks to Adam for the set-up).
I really enoyed this race, the ballast system really seemed to work well and gave us mortals a chance of being able to stay in fairly close contention with our faster rivals.
Dicing with the likes of Zacari and Paul968 (even though they were in the GTC class lol) was just great knowing that I still had to make clean passes on them to get by.
The only scew up's I made (that I can remember) was almost losing it at the fast Varantie and causing MJ to lock up and go off, "sorry Mark" and a lack luster pit-stop of 52 seconds!
Well next onto Adria where the M3 will not shine :-\

Think I lucked in to a better result than I deserved! I was slowest of the GTC pack in qually and only 0.2 secs ahead of GT3 pole. I also knew my race pace would probably be best part of 2 secs a lap slower so was worried I would get mixed up in their battles, which as it turned out was not really an issue.

Will in his GT2 passed me on the first flying lap and I guess with the draft he gave me and the fact the brakes / tyres were still cold I locked the brakes in to the first chicane at the start of race lap 2. Got a cut warning and, no fault of Will's, got turned around and found myself between 2 GT3s. Dave in front. Lucky for me Dave was in dominant mood last night and was driving away from the rest of the GT3s. My pace was such I wasn't quick enough to make an easy pass to I followed Dave until he made a small mistake at Lesmo 2 and gifted me back the place.

Then it was just to concentrate on my strategy, run long, make no mistakes and with luck I could make the race without extra fuel or tyres. For a change I didn't bin the Morgan and hit some armco resulting in a puncture so ran as long as I dared.

Sorry for 'getting in the way' Paul. I thought you were coming through and I tried to leave room, then saw you spinning in the mirror. I was still in a hurry as I had no idea where I would reappear after my pit visit. In the end I beat Reign Man by only a couple of secs and he had much better pace. With my worn tyres I was struggling for the last few laps through the Parabolica and would not have been in a position to defend. I was so relieved we didn't do one more lap.

Hopefully my pace might be more competitive at the next round, but I'm not sure I didn't gel with the circuit at the fun race there  :-\

Congratulations to everyone, especially the podium chaps.

No problem at all Pete - you had your race to run too. I as just trying to explain why I was rather eager to get past! I'd spent the last few laps pushing myself to close the gap, and I should have realised that there was plenty of time and held back looking for a good exit from Ascari. Sorry if I gave you a scare.

I was conscious I was holding you up and tried to brake and run off line to the outside of the turn - but got it seriously wrong (again).  Sorry.

Bill

Again,sorry for the warm up lap.
But when your a mid grid driver and you suddenly find yourself at the front of the grid with the likes of Simon,Brian and ruskus behind you,its abit overwhelming.Not that I'm biggin up you guys.
But its alot of pressure,my nerves had gone to pot.I was sweating badly before the race had started.
If i ever get pole again,I'll do you all a favour and let 2nd place do the warm up.Cause to be fair,i prefer to follow on that lap.

Anyway,1st stint went great,pulled out a good lead in the 1st couple of laps.
But i could see why,watching the 3 way battle behind me.
After that it was a lonely affair.
I just concentrated on my consistency and that where my problem lies.
No mistakes in the 1st stint,which I'm proud of,thats an achievement for me.

2nd stint went well.
Pitted as scheduled and came out 7th.
got back up to 3rd and then it seemed a lifetime before going past TT and Zacari,didn't think they was ever going to pit.
I managed to get 2 cautions on my 1st lap out of the pits,due to the fact i was still flooring it on cold tyres.
So the pressure was on me again not to get another and cop the dreaded stop and go.
No worries about the next race Simon,because Ive a feeling that was a one off race for me,so no pressure.

Well chuffed with the win and the lap records

Took the 360 modena last night and had a great battle with Mark Jonzo and then Pedro Silva early on, followed by some close fair racing with Backo. At one point myself BAcko and Zac all arrived at T1 at the same time. Backo tried a move down the inside but outbraked himself and ran across the chicane, but eased off to give the place back. Could see you were worried about me taking advantage Backo as you eased off , twas why I flashed my lights to let you go and we continued the battle.
Also had a comical moment with Picnic as I exited the pits where we both tried to let each other go first through T1, kinda 'after you, no I insist you first' and ' no after you sir' until we both almost stopped in the middle of T1 :D :D

I was really enjoying it and with a full tank of fuel I was in for a reasonable finish.
Controller problems and a nasty crash(someone call an ambulance) down the Ascari straight put an end to the race though. Haven't had much look with enduro lately so hope I can get to the end of the next one!

Grats to John, Ruskus and the podiums 8)

No worries John. You'll be ready next time I'm sure. You have the pace for the top of the grid so I expect it won't be your last pole!


I'm embarrased to say I'm only 32, but I'm clearly too far detached from current culture to know what "biggin up" means. Give us a clue. ;D

Must be near Biggin Hill, innit.

Dear me, The jokes are getting worse here...I reckon it's time to biggin again.