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Practice 1:	20:00	(10 mins)	full time drivers only
Practice 2:	20:10	(10 mins)	reserves may join too
Qual 2:	20:20	(35 mins)
Race:	20:55	(80 mins)	note: no warmup

Cars allowed: any GT2, GTC or GT3 from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.6.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519).
Weather: changeable, based on real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: Adria v1.2 (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54900#msg54900))
Race Start Time 14:00
Pit Stops: All drivers must make a minimum of one pit stop. This must involve entering the pit lane at the speed limit, and coming to a complete standstill in the designated pit box. Tyres do not have to be changed and no fuel has to be added. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

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No warmup! ;)

Is there going to be a warmup for this?


(runs and hides in the hills) :laugh:

Never driven this track, so will have to get some practice in and sort a decent set-up.
Just switched ISP aswell from 'the future's bleak and in a call centre in Bangalore, the future's Orange' to Virgin - should be interesting... ???

This is going to be hard work in the M3 ..... still, I'll give it a go.

I should be fine for this one. I will need to have a going over of my set up for the 911 and try and do something about the excessive tyre wear.

I have slightly less weight this time around but I doubt that will save me too much. I will have to stick a few laps in before Sunday

I've driven behind your M3 a few times and I noticed it's very oversteery. Maybe a bit too much, especially under power?

Will try to join in the 811 if there's room. In theory, its payback time for those nasty viper types   ;)

That depends on if you try and sneak the GTC version in again  :P :D

Hi Guys,
Can someone check, the GTR2 practice server seems to be down?

Thanks Don, back up now :)

Well after being very happy with qual it went downhill pretty quick. Got a bump from behind on lap 2 which dropped me to 17th and then ran into someone else's accident not long after, followed by my PC freezing on the s/f straight :(

Hope my stranded car didn't cause chaos  :-\

It was OK race.

After getting the rear of my car remodeled for a few laps at the start I dropped a couple of places at the start of the race - the got a big 1-fps moment that cost me 20 seconds and dropped me to 12th.

Looking into the event viewer code but it's not making a lot of sense to me yet.... seme DCOM error or something.

After that it was a good race - had a cracking fight with Picnic once I caught him - only getting by after Pete got it a bit sideways.  Good racing Pete  :)

Was closing in on Zacari but ran out of time.

Good race - but spoilt by some OS problems and someone remodeling the rear of my M3.

Was quite happy with qually, in the end got 11th because Zacari took 10th in the end by a few thousands.

Was behind Zacari for a while untill he went wide and I could get alongside and outbrake.
Rest of the race is all a blur, can't remember anything :P.
Only thing I can remember is the last 20 minutes with Paul 968. He was about 1s faster than me towards the end and I had to drive so hard to keep him behind me. Often had to take a defensive line and keep the car tight aroudn the apex, to prevent him from outdragging me out of the corner. In the end he gave me a kiss  :-*. Great finale ;D.

Grats to Simon on the Gt2 win and BACKO on the GTC win.

Lots of freezing tonight.

My PC completely froze during second practice session. It took me ages to get PC shut down and restarted. I could see a few people suffering too. Something wrong somewhere?

Could barely get a clean lap in during qualifying but still managed a lap good enough for pole which surprised me.

Managed to keep Backo at arms length for the opening period and was easing away ever so slowly. Then Robert Middlehoff was on a charge and caught me right up. Make a mistake and lost the back end under power and this allowed Robert the chance to pass.

Started to chase but Robert was quicker so decided to pit. Made a good stop and noticed Simon had made up loads of ground on me. I just passed him at pit exit.

Then the game started to stutter. Edamspeeds car stopped at start finishline and for the next countless corners I was struggling to drive with all the stutter. I then ran off because of it.

Not sure what happened as I only say Mark Jonzo pass me and nothing else. I looked behind and saw Simon was there. Come start finish line it appeared Mark slowed down to let me pass, which I doubt would happen as it was for 2 or 3rd spot. Then suddenly Simon appeared in front of me when he was behind 2 secs before. Very odd.

A few other bit of warping then it cleared.

Gave chase to Simon and caught him up. For the final 20 mins I tried all I could but could not get passed. A little moment with a backmarker allowed me the run but Simon closed off my space. Then again a wobble allowed me the chance only for me guess Simon was going to move the other way. I had to lift off!

The BMW was way too quick on the straights and even though I could easily out brake him I could never get close enough to attempt a move.

Nice racing Simon, that's going to be a heavy car now!

Most of the backmarkers were excellent in very difficult conditions. Although I did not like the one or two that wanted to race. Again although I was 2-3 secs a lap quicker, it's still hard to pass.

I followed one through about 5-6 corners and could not get passed. I put my nose up the inside a few times only to have it slammed shut. Then went around the outside and nearly got t boned off.

I still can't say I like the track but I'm beginning to get used of it.

Well done Simon and Backo for class wins. Good race again Robert. You lost that one in the pits tonight as you were the quickest most of the time.

phew, that was 80 mins of pure action !

No let up at all from start to finish.

Really enjoyed the tight qually battle with Mo, TT, Jeff and Zacari, even though i lost 3 places at the end to them :P

Race was fantastic, had the first 10 laps or so glued to Jeffs bumper as he sought a way past Zacari, then spent the next 10-12 laps glued to Zacari's TVR. It was so intense i was sweating buckets just through concentration.
Eventually i got alongside Zacari upto that nasty little jink turn, i thought i had the line at that point but his TVR thought otherwise and we clashed as two cars tried to squeeze into one spot and Mo was following so close behind he thumped the pair of us  :o...bit of a 'race incident' that one.
Unfortunately i pulled my damn wheel of the desk in that melee and had to drive the few laps leaning my body on it against the desk hoping it wouldnt fly off as the clamp had got stuck  :o...i eventually did it up one turn at a time between frantic gear changes on the small straights.
During those laps me and Zacari changed places a couple of times under braking but despite untold severe braking moments behind his Tiv because the Fezza could brake far later, i clipped his rear quarter as he braked harder than i had got used to at that tight right hairpin and spun him. I stopped dead and let him through but Picnic had sneaked past the pair of us (wheres yellow flags when you need them? ;)). So apologies to Zacari for the contact, it certainly wasnt deliberate as the previous 15 laps should testify!
A few laps later his TVR completely disapeared from my view and i thought he had Discod  ???
By about lap 42 i found myself up in 3rd whilst others had pitted and then i got caught up in the front runners battle when i just really wanted them to go by as i cost myself loads of time trying to defend my 3rd on worn rubber ala Hamilton! :P (but without the skill ;))
I tried pitting for about 3 laps but everytime i hit pit request, i got a garbled response and didnt trust the useless b*stards in the pitlane ::) so kept going around on shagged tyres until i finally dived in.
I dropped from 3rd to 12th !! ??? >:(...without taking any fuel on, just tyres  :taz: sod knows how? :-\
Then i just chased Adams ass for lap after lap but was also short shifting for the last 10 laps as my lap counter was saying there were 82 laps and i thought it would be touch or go to finish. But then without warning i saw a big plume of smoke up at T1 and thought there had been a big old off but got the race finish notice ??! ???  Weird...anyone else have that?
Cracking race though, finished soaked in sweat, congrats to podium guys :thumbup1:

 ???  Saw a warped car at start, think it was edamspeed, then as I was tootling along all of a sudden.. smack, he just reappered by me, I even had a ctd in quali, as I noticed a few others did too. As for the quali, car was horrid with the weight, so it must be working!

Hoped my race strategy would work out but made a silly error out of the last turn and spun, and did it again a little later.
So basically damage limitation was the order of the day!

I kept trying to be consistent...ish and just slowly get back into contention and when I started seeing people pit I knew I could leapfrog a few and so it turned out, I managed to get past Dave in the pitstops but SBG and Pribeiro were just too far in front but Ossie made a mistake into the last turn so got past.  ;)

We had a great scrap for a few laps with him all over me like a cheap suit on the straights, but I kept my line and made it as difficult as I could, he made a couple of attempts at the Esses and one stuck, until he came across a spinner but made another go soon after and sailed past me and the Esses too  :D , after that he seemed to drop back and I just had to keep it on the Island for 3rd  ;D

Thought the Vipers would struggle more but on the straights they're just monsters!

Grats to GT2 and GTC podium!

Provisional Results above, replay here (https://replay.simracing.org.uk/ukgtr/Adria%20-%20Lower%20Endurance%20071007.zip) plus provisional standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=61)

Well, I still ain't that keen on the track, but it don't half produce some fun racing ;D

To much fun to recall  :). Can remember stand out battles with Dan, Dave, Pseudo and PR (sorry if I missed anyone out). Quite lucky to win I guess as early tap and resultant spin left more too far behind PR. Not sure how I caught you PR but congrats on top effort in the bimmer. We might struggle at Spa with some extra bodyweight ;). And thanks for waiting Dan, as Dave and I were trying to get back in order after some lapping confused the hell outta Dave ;).

Top work from GT2 and GTC boys in very trying conditions :angel:

 

Wow, that went from extremely boring to a strenous battle. Managed a 1:13.8 in TimeTrial mode with ballasted car but without the extra 40kg success ballast so was expecting to be about a second slower than that in qually. Sure enough bang on a second slower which gave me a reasonable 4th on the grid and a good platform for getting a podium finish.

After some off-line testing I realised there was a chance to get the BMW to do the whole race without stopping for fuel, but I needed to drive a bit conservatively to eek out the fuel consumption as it was touch and go. So I started on full tank and soft tyres and boy was the first half of the race hard. The car felt immensely heavy so getting the car stopped was a big issue and it felt quite understeery whilst the car was heavy with fuel and ballast. So much so that I was using lower gears for some corners over qualifying laps. Still my fuel consumption was going really well and I was happy that I could do the race without fuel.

Up to that point I'd had a dull race, just conserving fuel and trying to egg the Beamer round the corners and into the braking zones. Just after half way I pitted for my tyre stop, told the crew to leave my fuel alone and so a quick stop saw me jump up to the previous leader Brian. I was really surprised to come out literally just as Brian was coming by and racing him for position. I was too slow to realise it was him and he easily got by into T1 as I struggled on cold tyres.

I chased Brian for a while knowing we were the virtual leaders, but he was ever-so-slightly quicker than me and although I was going much faster on half a tank of fuel and fresh rubber I didn't think it was going to be enough. After a while Brian made a mistake into the kink and took a minor trip into the gravel allowing me to get through and take a 2 second lead. And that two seconds was as big as it was for the rest of the race. For i dunno, 20-25 minutes or more, I had Brian breathing down my neck trying to force me into a big enough mistake to let him by. Had some moments along the way with back markers and so on, but this track is VERY hard to get by and I drove defensively at times when I needed to and that was enough to keep him behind. The BMW had enough grunt on the straight to make sure Brian had little chance into the braking zones and the rest was just about getting the car in the right place to prevent and sneaky dives up the inside.

Nearer the end I realised there was enough fuel to rev it into the red so I was a bit quicker down the straights near the end. In fact I finished with 8 litres so there was plenty to spare.

It was a tough battle, hats off to Brian for making it the best race so far at Adria for me, although I still hate the place with a vengeance.

Well done to Backo in the Morgan for the GTC class win, fantastic pace in that lively beast.

That was very tough. Had to break from the script at the end of qually in order to ensure that I didn't start dead last, then either PRibeiro didn't use his limiter at the start, or the Z3M doesn't have the flashing light. Either way I completely failed to use Viper Power^(tm) to pass him and after that could only try and hang on to his coat tails.

Getting lapped was very hard work - not helped by accidentally letting SbG and one of the RVS 811s past by accident, though they very generously let me back past again. 8) One thing that really annoys me though is when I lose time letting someone by, and then they chuck it off the road... twice! I get less generous each time I have to let you by again. >:(

Stopped pretty much bang on half distance. Had to take on 75 litres of go juice and came out ahead of PRibeiro on the road, but nearly a lap down on the frugal Z3M - held him up for a bit before having a stupid off and losing a place to Ossie, and after that I started to fall seriously into the clutches of Dan Minton's 811. The last 20 or 30 minutes consisted of desperately trying to stay ahead of the Porsche, despite rear tyres that felt distinctly like Lewis Hamilton's. :o

At one point, I found myself stuck behind Prof's Morgan, a lap ahead but holding me up and starting to overdrive on what looked to be well worn rubber. Very narrowly avoided running into the back of him in turn 1 (and I thought the Viper had to brake early!) but then he got sideways in one of the long left handers and I ground almost to a halt just as Rob Midderhof was trying to lap the lot of us and he ran smack into the back of me. Not sure if it did any real damage as the car was already a total handful but the last 10 minutes or so were white knuckle laps and then some.

No idea where I finished but that's three races at Adria and three intense battles. ;D

Yep I got a CTD tonight too in practice I think probably same time as others. Seems there maybe some buggettes in the track I fear, or maybe something else.

Again very hard track for lappers and lappees alike but I want to have a little moan I'm afraid for which I'm going to feel really awful as the thought was always there when I came up to lap drivers it was just sometimes the execution that needed some work. :-[

It wasn't the getting let through as that was great and very generous as usual, it was the sudden swerves off-line unpredictably to be let through. There was a number of times that I was about to pull out to lap and suddenly the driver being lapped would pull off-line and I'd have to brake or swerve back and then it would be even harder to pass. Some drivers were different to others and this meant you had no idea how the next guy would let you through.

I just say this because being predictable is the absolute king to lapping and being lapped. Stay on the racing line, blend off the throttle. The car lapping is expecting to have to drive off-line to get by so knowing this it is much better if cars being lapped stay on line so this can be achieved with as little confusion as possible. It is in the SRou guidelines because of many years experience in the safest way to lap in online races.

I hope no one takes this the wrong way as I really don't like having little moans like this. Everyone was really great being lapped and I hate to criticise the lapping / lapped thing cause it's a very difficult thing especially on a track like this with such similar performance cars.

There are definitely problems with this track, both in Tuesdays sprint and tonights race I had cars stuck where the timing lines are, both on the main straight and the 2nd, tighter, corner with a kinky entrance (o er misses) Also at those times the gap timer would drop like the car had stopped there to jump back up to a sensible value as I got close  :-\

As for tonights race, managed to qualify 2/10ths quicker than Tuesday night so that was good but still I'm not very quick here. At the start of the race I was in no mans land. The cars in Ruskus/Zac/MJ etc. battle were driving away at a second a lap and I was doing like wise to the cars behind me. Then I think MJ and Zacari had an 'incident' and they were only 3 secs up the road. With their battling I managed to keep them insight. Then they had contact at the hairpin and I was trough. Stuggled to keep them behind as they were both quicker than me and after some sideways efforts I had lost the positions.

Similar later when I had Adam chase me down. Good battle but I think a small mistake was inevitable, it happened and you got away. Somehow I had jumped MJ in the pitstops and he then chased me down and another sideways moment and he was through.

Tyre wear was horrid here and I couldn't make them last all race but fuel was not an issue.

Not sure I like this mix of classes racing here. Non of them have the extra grunt to get my safely, and with the short nature of the track it seems there are always battles which seems to make the "I'll slow down to let you passed" so much harder. That's not a complaint against people tonight but a general observation ;)

Apologies to Mo who I clipped on lap 2, just couldn't get my nose out of the way :( but was completely my fault.  The rest of the race I wont comment on here.

Grats to Simon and BACKO for some stonking pace up front 8)

That was frustrating. During the warmup lap, everyone disappeared! I was supposedly in 20th, and did most of a lap hoping I wouldn't get a 'connection lost' message, then the cars reappeared and I was 23rd. Sorry Madd RIP if my reappearance caused you problems :(

Had some real good battles with Prof and Ossie along the way.

Finally ended early with a disco, and a big sorry to Adam Parle, who was following me closely when I braked early. Sorry about that mate, I was distracted by a vanishing car in front of me and just braked in a stupid place ::)

Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Adria LE 07-10-2007/index.html)

Indeed, those will be the most long 5 miles of the year  :sweatdrop:
Congrats for GT3 win SBG, excellent pace  :clap:

Congratulations also to Simon  :thumbup2: and to backo  :thumbup1:
Well done to all, 20+ in different classes on this track is a top driving :yes:
Fortunatly its over. I totally agree with Picnic, this track have some problems, as for me,
i usually get 60-80 fps average on most of the tracks, but at Adria i run with 30-50
and even get some sudenly drops to 20 or so, from time to time. Another annoying stuff
that sun flares all over the place during all 80 mnts. (the sun doesnt move at that part
of Italy?)  :blink:

As for the race, went well (2 spins only) and 60 mnts of hard but clean fights, i tried to stay close
to SBG, but i couldnt as your pace was a bit faster, so i am quite happy with the 2nd GT3 place  :)

Dave, i put my pit limiter on, just after last corner, when i got near to the car in front,
i hope that could be easy to verify in the replay (by the sound of engine)

Cheers

Just so we don't get the wrong end of the stick - do not come off the throttle with another car right behind - wait until they've moved out! Otherwise contact is inevitable.

had a few good battles but spent most of my time playing catch up after losing a bit of time whilst being lapped..that Viper grunt left no option but to lift off alot to allow the front runners through coz of the shortness of the straights. Was lapping ok, very few errors (for me) and was never too far behind whichever car was infront....and when I did drop back a bit seemed to make the time up again quite quickly.

Thought I was in for taking a place though just after the pit stop. Had been chasing Dan Minton down for a good few laps and managed to get ahead when he ran off at the 'chicane'. I had to pit on the following lap though as the tyres were ever so slightly worn ::). I think Dan pitted 2 laps after me and exited the pit lane as I passed the s/f line. Then on cold tyres he ran wide into turn 2 and I thought 'nows my chance' only to have a lapping car try a really late and utterly unneccessary pass on the apex from miles back that could easily have put us both out the race :o. ended up 12 secs behind Dan then with little hope of making it up.

The vast majority of lapping cars were fantastic...waited for the flash from me and showed a lot of patience..excellent. There were (apart from the above) a couple that tried very late darts to the apex of the corner, especially at turn 1 and a little contact was made, but no harm done fortunately.

All in all not too bad...still don't like the track much...it was better with single makes on mondat night, so maybe the sprint on tuesday will be good.

Grats to winners and podiums...and Backo ;D  well done mate. ;)

I was never going to compete with the GTC aliens for raw speed so tried to go the whole race on one set of tyres and the briefest of stops. Wear was far greater than off-line practice, grip was far less and things got really hairy towards the end. (Sorry Dave). 80 minutes hard work to make up one whole place on qualification - really glad to see the finish flag.

Sorry to any faster cars I held up. I think I got it right most of the time especially when you chose to overtake on the straights!

Qualified 9th - just couldn't get a good lap in and 2 CTDs didn't help.  :(
Had a great tussle with Paul968, very fast in his RS.  8)  Finished 5th, 4th in class.  :)
Was counting on Backo to slow Robert down in the last minutes, but he didn't. Backo, drive faster next time.   :wetfish:

This track is very hard for lapping, for both parties.  :(  Majority of the drivers were great, letting me through so quickly I was sometimes embarased, I felt like a predator comming on a school of prey, scattering them.  :D  No need to that, guys, just be sensible, hold the line, ease off and we won the day.  :) 
In one particular case I had a feeling there was some old account being settled as the blocking was going on for some time, certainly more than any (even strached) sensible time necessary to let the lapping car by even on a twisty track as this. Will watch the replay and act accordingly.  :(

Was great to see MJ brake his oath to Porsche...  :P


TT

Gotta say sorry to Prof as made contact with you on at least two occasions - one of them causing you to spin - sorry again  :-\

Not a good race for me, as was having some framerate issues again, so braking points etc were all out of sync.
Later found out that all my graphics card settings had been reset, should be ok for the next round.
Congrats to all who ran here tonight - not a great fan of this track myself though.

Another intense and hard fought race. Backo was always going to be out of reach with -20kg of ballast, so it was nice to get 2nd on the GTC grid. Initially I had an easy time of it as Simon slowly edged away and I got a little gap those behind. Then TT closed in and we had yet another good scrap, with my RS always better on the power and TT with the edge on the brakes. During our battle we were unfortunately held up for over a lap by a backmarker in the same class  :nono:, and the time lost came back to haunt me later on. TT was a real gent though for not taking advantage of the situation  :thumbup1: In the end he took advantage of my good nature  :P with a slightly ambitious move into T1 before he pitted the next lap. After that I had Zacari on fresh tyres putting the pressure on, and I was looking for a way to let him by when I made a mistake and ran wide in the last corner. He was alongside on the outside into T1 and I didn't contest the pass.  I pitted just for new tyres and came out as a big gaggle of cars approached, so I had to slowly ease out onto the track. As I got up to speed Ruskus came flying past, and I knew from experience I was going to struggle to get the place back on such a twisty track. I caught him up after a few laps and then spent the rest of the race up his gearbox. I've said before that there is nowhere to pass with an equal car and so it was to prove - plenty of close moments but Jeff could always take a defensive line and leave me nowhere to go. I had a last big effort on the final lap and was very close after the middle hairpin, but a Viper had a spin in the middle of the right kink ahead, and seeing the danger I nudged Jeff across the grass through the gap (that's my story and I'm sticking to it!  :P) ;)). 3rd in class isn't too bad, but I made very few driving mistakes, had good pace all race and think with a bit more luck I would have had 2nd.

Congrats to Simon, Backo and SBG for the class wins & thx to those who helped me past.

Lol. In that case, THANKS  ;D

No problem Will16v, I was never going to be competitive here. Relieved just to finish.