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Title: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 24, 2007, 03:52:57 PM +0100
Practice 1:20:10(10 mins)full time drivers only
Practice 2:20:20(10 mins)reserves may join too
Qual 2:20:30(25 mins)
Race:20:55(40 minutes)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT1 or G2 from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.6.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519) (G2 cars will not score points)
Weather: Dry
Track: Hockenheim GP
Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: no mandatory stop

Server: UKGTR Upper Sprint
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=58). Reserves (anyone without a full time spot) should not join until the stated session, regardless of the time.
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack and track pack (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 25, 2007, 09:28:10 AM +0100
Race postponed, initially for two weeks but actual to be confirmed next week. Sorry folks.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Jeffrey on November 13, 2007, 08:16:49 AM +0000
Also gonna miss this.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Kerr on November 13, 2007, 08:26:12 AM +0000
I'm out too. Backshift week for me


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Jeffrey on November 20, 2007, 04:31:43 PM +0000
Also gonna miss this.

Dunno why I said this, I'm not gonna miss this, I had the flight of 6:30 am, so I'm weeeeell in time  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Joss on November 20, 2007, 09:48:43 PM +0000
I'm very sorry if my lagging caused any problems for anyone. I noticed a sudden gap appear between myself and PR and thought it would be OK, but then thought that maybe tha gap appeared because of my warp. :(

Gutted, only first warped in stadium on the warm up lap and I hoped it would go away. Was in discussion with Jeff and Simon on TS about how it was (it was silky smooth to me) and for a while it seemed to be OK, then Simon came on and said I had massive warp into stadium on lap and I had to pull out for the gd of those behind me.

I would have quit out earlier had I been doing worse, only I've put soo much time & effort into the Lambo setup for this track I really wanted a result, which was selfish of me really. Got my just rewards in the end.

Anyway - great racing you guys and well done Simon on a great drive! Also to Jeff on a great defense with 40kg of ballast!
Bring on Sugo. I'll be bk to my usual pace in Sugo!  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Jeffrey on November 20, 2007, 10:28:06 PM +0000
Was surprised to get pole, as FreQ came very VERY close :).

As he said, he started to lag in formation lap and I was pretty busy watching that for the first half. But still it was good racing, with a gap never more than 1s.
Same he had to quit, as it looked like it could have been a Shark           1
                                                                                             2     
                                                                                                     3

In the end Simon came very close to stealing the win from me, but luckily I kept it infront  :)



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 20, 2007, 10:37:41 PM +0000
Oh oblox, I obviously imported our little "fun race" instead of the correct imports. Ooops. Hang on. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 20, 2007, 10:42:42 PM +0000
Oh oblox, I obviously imported our little "fun race" instead of the correct imports. Ooops. Hang on. ;D

Although, I could leave it like that, it's a Team Shark 1-2-3 and we're apparently so good we can even vaporise the field now (or was that eat them all!) ;D ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Jeffrey on November 20, 2007, 10:48:09 PM +0000
Oh oblox, I obviously imported our little "fun race" instead of the correct imports. Ooops. Hang on. ;D

Seems fine to me ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Joss on November 20, 2007, 11:07:18 PM +0000
I think these results make for sweet reading!

(http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/900/funnyresultsxf6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8688/funnychampresultsqm1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Quite how I got the fastest lap and managed to finish third in a one lap race I'll never know! Jeff showing that the tortoise stratagy works wonders ;)



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 21, 2007, 08:07:55 AM +0000
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Can't get the staff. :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: ginsters sponsored on November 21, 2007, 08:41:54 AM +0000
Looks like I've failed to make things idiot proof ;).

As usual, this GT1 race was a blast.

Qualified in 10th and quickly in a 4/5 way battle for first half of race. No idea, I guessed it was ballast but can now see it wasn't, what made Purdie and Bara so slow on straight after T2 and brake very early into hairpin. But it didn't half make for some fun moments ;D. Sadly Gazza, Purdie and Bara all stumbled and I was left with only TT for company. Mind you, that was more than I could handle and, although I held him up for a long time, he got past eventually. Nice stuff TT.

Feeling delighted with my performance I only went and spun on it last lap to let Bara through  :wetfish: . Still, great fun all in all.

Nice to see some new faces and a very old one, don't tell us you had technical difficulties Fozz :D. Could do with a few more still and why not, as GT1 offers the best races week in week out. Congrats to podium and our PR.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 21, 2007, 09:44:01 AM +0000
Results updatificatified. Now with added rightness.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Truetom on November 21, 2007, 10:07:05 AM +0000
Qualified in 10th and quickly in a 4/5 way battle for first half of race. No idea, I guessed it was ballast but can now see it wasn't, what made Purdie and Bara so slow on straight after T2 and brake very early into hairpin. But it didn't half make for some fun moments ;D. Sadly Gazza, Purdie and Bara all stumbled and I was left with only TT for company. Mind you, that was more than I could handle and, although I held him up for a long time, he got past eventually. Nice stuff TT.

Darn, that Corvette was fast down the straight!  :o  What wing did you have, SBG? I was starting to give up, my tricks were running low, all I could do was keep the pressure and hope you'd make a mistake. I almost regretted it, when I finally made it by. I was scared you'd get me on the first straight and I'll have to start all over again...  ::) Good racing, SBG.  8)   I was also a bit surprised, I thought both Bara and Purdie are gonna drive away and was  :taz: SBG for getting by so soon. I was making a move to overtake, failed, backed off and the sucker SBG got through.  :P 
I'm quite satisfied with the result, a few more laps and I could start pressuring RR...  :)

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 21, 2007, 10:07:49 AM +0000
I had an absolutely brilliant race that was so much fun (nearly as much fun as the shanigans afterwards with FreQ and Ruskus after everyone else had left  ;)).

Changing to the Lister was the best thing I've done this season. It felt alive and light and "fun", even though it still sounds like a hair dryer. Qualified in 4th with 0kg of ballast with the usual aliens ahead of me. Struggled for pace a little bit early on which let RoadRunner get by, but eventually my paced picked up and picked off RoadRunner as he ran wide into the stadium.

The top 5 were pretty close together for the first 25 minutes which was just awesome. Unfortunately FreQ's car had been warping a little since the pace lap and when it got quite bad at one point we let him know and sportingly he pulled off into the pits. Shame for you as it was a good race for all.

With a couple of laps to go I managed to start putting Paul Richards under pressure in his Saleen. The Saleen was stellar down the straights and without a mistake I didn't know how I would get by. I can't even remember how I got past Paul, but somehow I did and without knowing it I was right up behind Jeff with 1 lap to go. Had a great last lap battle with Jeff, but I couldn't quite overtake him and we finished 1-2 and very close together after 40 minutes of racing.

I know Jeff had 40kg ballast more than me, but it's nice to have come so close. Overall I enjoyed actually driving something more fun than before as it really added to my racing experience instead of taking it away. Next time I think about taking something American someone please slap me!

Results updatificatified. Now with added rightness.

Thanks for getting me out of deep doodoos on that one.



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Aagramn on November 21, 2007, 10:28:25 AM +0000
Shame I missed this one, I like Hockenheim, but I was busy sorting things out for my imminent move.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Paul Richards on November 21, 2007, 10:36:58 AM +0000
That was a great race last night! Qualified in 3rd and was using the same race setup I had for the endurance (with less fuel) so thought I would be defending right from the start given the company I was surrounded with on the grid. I decided just to push really hard from the off and see how it went!

Car felt great and I was able to keep in touch with Ruskus and Freq and while not pulling away from RR and Simon I didn't have to defend. It was clear though that the 5 of us at the front had very similar pace and it was going to be a very long 40 minutes! After half distance I began to close in a bit on the front two while Simon was still easily in touch with me. Freq than had his warp moment and sportingly pulled into the pits so I started to chase Jeff. I was closing in but Simon was getting more and more menacing behind me  :o . With a couple of laps to go my rears tyres lost loads of grip and I was struggling to get out of turn 2 onto the back straight where my car was quickest compared to the other two. With that advantage reduced a bit Simon was very close and I got very ragged in the stadium section which heated the rears up too much and then had a poor exit of turn two putting the power down and Simon was past down the straight.

He was flying at this point and was quickly on the tail of Jeff. I tried to stay in touch hoping their battle would let me close in again but the race ended and I couldn't stop a Shark 1-2 which could have been 1-2-3 if it wasn't for Freqs housemates eating his bandwith!

Congrats to Jeff and Simon for great drives and well done to teamies SBG and Stew on solid finishes again.    


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Xtreme on November 21, 2007, 10:46:29 AM +0000
Thanks guys for a good session!

It was my first race in UKGTR and I am impressed with the driving I have seen!

I think I am a bit out of you guys leauge but it gives me a goal to work to, to ensure Im am up to speed.

Its a silly question I suppose but I will ask anyway, any chance of turning on Automatic gears!?



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Jure on November 21, 2007, 10:56:33 AM +0000
Its a silly question I suppose but I will ask anyway, any chance of turning on Automatic gears!?

It'll make you go slower on a long run, can't be that precise, sometimes you want a late shift, sometimes an early one (especially under braking) ;)

Anyway - I hate this track, boring beyond belief, was still in an "baaah, I won't drive it" mode an hour before the race.

Couldn't stay away, of course.  ;D

Uneventful race, wing10 got the best of me, no way I could keep up, got closer in the twisty bits just to see sbg, tt & co drive away on the straights. Gave up after 15 or so laps and just cruised home.

So... what's Sugo like? Any pointers?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Tibernius on November 21, 2007, 11:01:34 AM +0000
Could do with a few more still and why not, as GT1 offers the best races week in week out.

Any room for me? I've never driven GT1 except a few laps with the lambo.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 21, 2007, 11:30:42 AM +0000
With a couple of laps to go my rears tyres lost loads of grip and I was struggling to get out of turn 2 onto the back straight where my car was quickest compared to the other two. With that advantage reduced a bit Simon was very close and I got very ragged in the stadium section which heated the rears up too much and then had a poor exit of turn two putting the power down and Simon was past down the straight.

I figured your tyres must be dying. I was almost counting on it in the Lister which had low tyre wear no matter how I slid the the thing around. I knew that if I kept in touch until the last few laps my Lister would not be dropping any pace but the heavier cars like your Saleen would be and I stood a chance of making some last minute places.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 21, 2007, 11:32:38 AM +0000
Any room for me? I've never driven GT1 except a few laps with the lambo.

There are perpetual reserve spots free in upper sprint - I don't know why I bothered with registration for it.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 21, 2007, 12:23:59 PM +0000
Its a silly question I suppose but I will ask anyway, any chance of turning on Automatic gears!?

No chance for GTR2 no I'm afraid.

Are you using a wheel?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Xtreme on November 21, 2007, 12:27:43 PM +0000
I Wish I was using a wheel!! Maybe I will treat myself for the holidays.

Use a game pad at the mo, so i will just have to struggle on.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Tibernius on November 21, 2007, 12:51:26 PM +0000
I Wish I was using a wheel!! Maybe I will treat myself for the holidays.

Use a game pad at the mo, so i will just have to struggle on.

Go for a LogiTech wheel, very good quality and fairly cheap. I use a driving force which I bought about 3-4 years ago.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Mark J on November 21, 2007, 12:51:42 PM +0000
Sorry i missed this one. House sale/buying is consuming all my spare time and patience  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 21, 2007, 01:25:04 PM +0000
Use a game pad at the mo, so i will just have to struggle on.

If you can find £40 you can get a good value for money wheel/pedals like the Logitech Formula Force EX (http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=3XKR&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=logitech+formula+wheel&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=0).

Logitech Driving Force Pros are about £65 and the best Logitech wheel very recommended if you can afford it is the G25 at about £150.

It is recommended that you use a wheel to play GTR2 or GTL or RACE 07 with the aids off. It'll greatly enhance your experience and allow you to control the cars properly.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Tibernius on November 21, 2007, 01:33:37 PM +0000
If you can find £40 you can get a good value for money wheel/pedals like the Logitech Formula Force EX (http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=3XKR&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=logitech+formula+wheel&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=0).

Logitech Driving Force Pros are about £65 and the best Logitech wheel very recommended if you can afford it is the G25 at about £150.

It is recommended that you use a wheel to play GTR2 or GTL or RACE 07 with the aids off. It'll greatly enhance your experience and allow you to control the cars properly.

Unless that's all you can afford I wouldn't go with the Formula Force EX, it is pretty much the same as my current wheel, which doesn't turn enough for proper control of the car.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Truetom on November 21, 2007, 02:20:38 PM +0000
I have the FF EX and I'm afraid it would tangle my arms if it turned more than it does.  :P

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Tibernius on November 21, 2007, 02:33:28 PM +0000
I have the FF EX and I'm afraid it would tangle my arms if it turned more than it does.  :P

TT

Mine's 90 degrees either way.

Personal opinion: go for the DFP. I would I could afford one.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: fozzmeister on November 21, 2007, 11:22:04 PM +0000
Hi Guys,

Sorry I bombed you out, I've not raced for around 8 months on anything other thank pick-up, and then like bi-monthly for 10 mins at best. Besides I had been working all day right upto pretty much when I turned up and had to start again later (kept going till 2:30am). I just wanted a break from the screen so went for a pint with my friends instead.

Anyway I'll prolly make more of the races from now on, so I'll be back! Oh and thanks for the welcome again :-)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 22, 2007, 08:32:47 AM +0000
Now all you need to do is get that famous (or is that infamous) avatar back next to your name too Fozz! ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: Truetom on November 22, 2007, 11:32:52 AM +0000
 :D But interesting.  :)

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: fozzmeister on November 22, 2007, 01:52:00 PM +0000
Now all you need to do is get that famous (or is that infamous) avatar back next to your name too Fozz! ;D

Job for the weekend I think!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Sprint - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 20
Post by: fozzmeister on November 22, 2007, 05:36:46 PM +0000
Lol, admins got impatiant  :D