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Title: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 26, 2007, 08:27:39 AM +0000
Practice 1:20:00(10 mins)full time drivers only
Practice 2:20:10(10 mins)reserves may join too
Qual 2:20:20(35 mins)
Race:20:55(80 mins)Note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT1, G2, GT2 or GTC from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.6.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519) (G2 and GT2 cars will not score points).
Weather: changeable, based on real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: Zhuhai 2004
Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: All drivers must make a minimum of one pit stop. This must involve entering the pit lane at the speed limit, and coming to a complete standstill in the designated pit box. Tyres do not have to be changed and no fuel has to be added. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Upper Endurance
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=60). Reserves (anyone without a full time spot) should not join until the stated session, regardless of the time.
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: psuedo on December 04, 2007, 11:59:32 PM +0000
Ohhhhh yes yes yes yes yes......I love this track ;D....possibly my next fave after Spa.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Luis Branco on December 06, 2007, 12:02:22 PM +0000
Unfortunately I believe I'm going to miss the last one.  :(
My network adapter isn't in conditions as I constantly lose host connection and when don't lose it I have a tremendous lag.
I already ordered a new one but i doubt it will be delivered until tomorrow, thus in time to be attending Sunday race without causing race lag problems to everyone.
I do hope the adapter arrive in time to have a minimum connection quality.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Simon Gymer on December 06, 2007, 02:24:32 PM +0000
Good luck getting your techinical problems resolved Luis, it's always nice to have you racing with us.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Luis Branco on December 07, 2007, 04:49:36 PM +0000
By absence for Zhuhai is confirmed  :(
Unfortunately work at this time of year doesn't leave me with any spare time to get the adapter myself so I must kneel on post offices delivery speed.
Sadly the postman didn't deliver the adapter today, so I'll only be getting it next week.

I wish the best to you all in the last race of the season.
 


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: psuedo on December 07, 2007, 10:25:16 PM +0000
oooooh no no no no no, I hate this track!   ::)

thought I was doing pretty well and getting round in 1:36/1:37's......till others joined the server.. :(..back to the drawing board.

anybody have a very fast set up for the fezza 360 Modena?  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Jeffrey on December 07, 2007, 10:46:25 PM +0000
Ohhhhh yes yes yes yes yes......I love this track ;D....possibly my next fave after Spa.
:yes:
oooooh no no no no no, I hate this track!   ::)
:whistling: ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: psuedo on December 08, 2007, 12:44:11 AM +0000
Eh...I wear pink.....I'm allowed to change my mind... :-*


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Jeffrey on December 08, 2007, 12:23:55 PM +0000
Eh...I wear pink.....I'm allowed to change my mind... :-*

Men that wear pink have indeed once in their lives changed their minds  :cowboy: :cowboy: (guess the movie  ;))


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Madd-RIP on December 08, 2007, 08:14:28 PM +0000
Just what is considered a quick tme for the GTC's, I know the new fettled michelin shod Morgan is quicker but any ideas would be useful, GTR2 rank says a 1.35 is the best for the Mosler but sometimes the times on there aren't very representative.
PS and OT will the Mosler be getting Michelins next season?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 08, 2007, 08:28:47 PM +0000
Just what is considered a quick tme for the GTC's, I know the new fettled michelin shod Morgan is quicker but any ideas would be useful, GTR2 rank says a 1.35 is the best for the Mosler but sometimes the times on there aren't very representative.

I'm doing low 37s to high 36s in race trim in the 350Z but without much consistency.

PS and OT will the Mosler be getting Michelins next season?

It's quick enough already isn't it? More likely that the Morgan will put on weight...


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: psuedo on December 08, 2007, 08:45:18 PM +0000
very similar story here...mid/high 36's and 37's in race trim in the fezza. have seen rs's and morgans in the 35's....and 34's.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Paul968 on December 08, 2007, 10:30:49 PM +0000
Quote
It's quick enough already isn't it? More likely that the Morgan will put on weight...

Why not just take the michelins off?



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Madd-RIP on December 08, 2007, 10:51:05 PM +0000
Quite, was a bit miffed when I saw they were put on tbh.
Thanks for the heads up on times though.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Jeffrey on December 09, 2007, 02:12:06 AM +0000
I am also for going back to default tires. There is no allround best tire.

Michelin has best slick but worst wets.
Pirelli is mediocre with both,
and Dunlop have worst slicks and best wets (But bugged intermediates).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Tibernius on December 09, 2007, 10:55:33 AM +0000
I suppose it's one tyre manufacturer per car model, instead of per car? i.e. All 350Zs on Yokohamas instead of one?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 09, 2007, 11:00:37 AM +0000
I suppose it's one tyre manufacturer per car model, instead of per car? i.e. All 350Zs on Yokohamas instead of one?

The cars that we changed for Season 6 were single-tyre cars, so we just changed that one model.

Let's not get into a Season 7 debate here, please, this thread is about Zhuhai.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Paul968 on December 09, 2007, 12:18:29 PM +0000
I'm not sure the Morgan has any great advantage over the Mosler at Zhuhai anyway. Over one lap I'd say the Mosler is a bit quicker but probably wears its tyres more in the race so it might need to take a harder compound. A dunlop shod Morgan is pretty much as quick as the Michelin one, but like the Mosler suffers from more wear.



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Kerr on December 09, 2007, 02:22:15 PM +0000
Hopefully I should be fine for this one. Not had anytime to practice yet.

My never ending bad luck with the flat carried on this morning.

They are doing some roadworks just along the road and managed to cut through one of the main electricity cables.

I've been in darkness all day so travelled through to my parents for showers and ironing.

Hopefully the stupid eejits sort the electricity out and I'm up and running in time for tonight.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: popabawa on December 09, 2007, 06:48:31 PM +0000
I'm pretty confident in saying I'm going to get whupped in the Vertigo here, I'm miles off the race pace you other GTC's are getting, I can just squeeze into the 1:38's on a good lap.

I'm sure it's the car and not my driving ;) :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Paul968 on December 09, 2007, 07:06:46 PM +0000
It's the car - lots of slow corners and long straights is not exactly the Vertigo's strong suit!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: spanner on December 09, 2007, 07:40:27 PM +0000
Thanks for the heads up on those GTC times :) Been practising alot and wanted a idea on how different i was to everyone elses times.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: ginsters sponsored on December 09, 2007, 10:29:57 PM +0000
Really, really poor >:(. All I had to to grab second was keep Dave at Bay and doing that comfortably. Someone runs outta fuel half way around final lap and instead of quiting, like any right minded person, he sits in the middle of the track till I come and then moves over, right into my path. Thanks a bunch.

I would bother and report you but I ain't gonna get my place back. Just so you know that kind of standards pi** even the most mild mannered of us off >:(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: DynoDaz on December 09, 2007, 10:35:29 PM +0000
I completely agree SBG, completely out of order, he took me out too.  It nearly altered the team championship.   :taz:


P.S. Ignoring the last lap, I really enjoyed that race.  Thanks SBG, great driving mate, it was impossible to get by you.  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Madd-RIP on December 09, 2007, 10:40:31 PM +0000
That's terrible luck SBG, Darren, its a real bummer when something happens like that so near the end.

Quali was a real upper for me, just off my pb and 2nd too boot in class.

Had an inkling the RS of my Cursed teamie would be too quick even though my Mosler was a dream to drive and although I tried my best to hold on he was a couple of tenths faster every lap as I was to Paul.

Must have made a mistake in the pits as I lost some time there, then had to avoid a GT1 under braking when I was on cold tyres and ended up in the gravel, so lost a spot to Darren.

It was just a case of trying to hunt him down and eventually got up to his back bumper with a few laps to go, we had a great old scrap until his back end twitched mid last corner and he went off, have to watch the replay but then his car completed the slide by smacking me into the pit wall and making my car 2 foot thinner!  :D , lookws like we both managed to keep going until the finish tho, so not too much harm done....yet.

Grats to GT1 podium and to Paul and Dan in GTC.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Jeffrey on December 09, 2007, 10:41:01 PM +0000
Was content with a 1:27.8 in qually, so I tried with racefuel and tires, and I was only 0.3 slower. So I went out again and did a 1:27.6.

At the beginning of the race I could slowly drive away from Brian, but when the backmarkers came I lost alot, which made it interesting.
After the pitstop I had a 15s gap to 2nd. I noticed my engine health dropping quickly, and with 20 minutes to go I had 79%  :o. So I had to lift off with every upshift to keep the engine alive, which was pretty tyring. In the end finished with 78%, so it did work.

Grats Paul


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Kerr on December 09, 2007, 10:41:21 PM +0000
That was both hard work and enjoyable.

Very happy with 2nd on the grid. I could not find much space to put many clean laps in.

Race started well, Ruskus was never far ahead and Freq was never far behind. I seemed to lose a bit of time at the last 5mins of first stint and Ruskus pulled about 6 seconds out. I knew I had no chance against him anyway as the Lister was always going to take a massive amount of time off me at pits.

I did not bargain on Freq gaining so much though, From a second or two behind me, I ended up 15 seconds behind after Freq stopped. I did make one stupid mistake on cold brakes and ran wide, maybe losing 4 seconds at most.

Simon with the Lister brought himself right back in it at the pit stops.

After making a stupid mistake I soon the car and that allowed Simon to close right on me, where he stayed for a long time.

I by this stage knew I was dangerously low on fuel. I put 86 lites in and came out with 38-39mins to go and did not have enough to give it my all.

Simon got passed after I seemed to bounce and understeered in first bend, He was soon to return the favour just a few corners later.

We had a right blast for laps to come until the last lap he made a move stick. I was not going to give up and we went side by side round the corners only for Simon to get the power down and his nose ahead.

I could not fight back or I would not make the end. I let off and the car was beginning to stutter and finally ran out out on main straight.

Just and only just made it.

Good race. Well done Jeff and Paul on class wins and Simon for the battle


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: popabawa on December 09, 2007, 10:45:32 PM +0000
Sweet baby Jeebus, all that sweating for 7th! :P Great racing though! 8)

A lucky superhuman qualifying just put me ahead of Dave (again!) and is now traditional, Dave steamed past me after a couple of laps despite my best efforts. Oh well, I think it took one more lap this week than Sugo so there's some improvement! :D

I was just able to keep vaguely in touch with Dave's battle with PRibiero, they were slowing each other down a bit, until Dave finally overtook and the traffic thinned out a bit. I made a bit of time up in the pits but came out a few seconds behind Dave so I knew there was no chance of improving my position unless there were some serious mistakes. A lonely 2nd half of the race saw PRibiero take 2 trips into the pits so I picked up a place there and that was that.

Apologies to Gazza49'er, I got the braking horribly wrong to slide in front of you , I'm so glad there wasn't any contact :-[

Shark and Brian at the end there... I really hope I didn't decide the place you were battling for, I stuck to the racing line as long as I could and I gave Brian the inside of the corner but I'm not sure what happened to Sharky...

GT1's were brilliant tonight, thanks guys  :thumbup1:

[Moan]No ferking chat in the race![/moan]

Grats to Paul & the Kerbies on the titles, you were entirely untouchable,:notworthy:

Grats to SBG and Dave (not sure who grabbed 2nd) very fast and consistent drives so a well deserved podium finish  :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: EdamSpeed on December 09, 2007, 10:46:58 PM +0000
Unremarkable race for me. Couldn't catch those in front, and couldn't hold off Shark at the beginning, and it would have been unfair to block him - since he was obviously quicker and smoother :)

So settled for what I thought would be a 9th or 8th place, but then right in the final 5 minutes, Paul R pulled in for a pitstop which gifted me a place.

Backmarkers were excellent - some were so good, I spun further up the road and passed them again ;)

Bad luck to teamie SBG - what a nightmare :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: DynoDaz on December 09, 2007, 10:47:51 PM +0000
Must have made a mistake in the pits as I lost some time there, then had to avoid a GT1 under braking when I was on cold tyres and ended up in the gravel, so lost a spot to Darren.

It was just a case of trying to hunt him down and eventually got up to his back bumper with a few laps to go, we had a great old scrap until his back end twitched mid last corner and he went off, have to watch the replay but then his car completed the slide by smacking me into the pit wall and making my car 2 foot thinner!  :D , lookws like we both managed to keep going until the finish tho, so not too much harm done....yet.

Sorry about that Madd.  Like you say, my back end twitched and with you right beside me contact was inevitable...

I'm glad it didn't end both of our races.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Jeffrey on December 09, 2007, 10:50:17 PM +0000
I would bother and report you but I ain't gonna get my place back. Just so you know that kind of standards pi** even the most mild mannered of us off >:(

I checked it in the replay, and you might wanna report. The driver might be able to learn soemthing out of it when somebody tells him what he should have done. Awefull incident for you  :'(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Jeffrey on December 09, 2007, 10:51:15 PM +0000
Also well done SImon on the great comeback to give Team Shark a 1-2-3  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Paul968 on December 09, 2007, 10:52:20 PM +0000
The silver lining though Ian is that I think you still finished ahead of Dave (in the championship). Great Stuff!  :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: picnic on December 09, 2007, 10:53:06 PM +0000
Replay and provisional results posted.

Congratulations to all who took part this season, especially those who finished in the top 3 :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: MortenS on December 09, 2007, 10:55:28 PM +0000
Thanks for appreciating us backmarkers ;)

Trying my best, and I think it went quite well, but at the end I lost consentration completely whenever I saw someone in my mirror as I was braking, so went off track a few time.

Forgot to check my tire choice before race, so had no idea what tires I was on. Then in pit, the crew suggested soft all around, so I thought that was what I had on, which worn to fast. So I went with medium at the front and soft at the rear.

Then I realized that must've been the same I allready had on, cause they got worn just as fast, so that lost me a bit in the end of both stints.

Didn't like this track very much, but I'll think I'll choose another car for next season.

Sorry for whoever I hit in turn one in a Porsche, but I didn't have much room either. I'm trying my best to let faster cars by, but please leave me some room too ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Jeffrey on December 09, 2007, 10:56:12 PM +0000



Unofficial Lapchart (http://www.lapcharts.teamshark.org.uk/Lapcharts/Zhuhai UE 09-12-2007/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: popabawa on December 09, 2007, 10:58:10 PM +0000
The silver lining though Ian is that I think you still finished ahead of Dave (in the championship). Great Stuff!  :thumbup2:

I'm so glad that incident didn't make the difference for the podium positions, that would have been deeply unfair.

I'm with SBG on this one, it feels like the maximum penalty (2 places I assume) has little bearing on the potential seriousness of the actions...


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 09, 2007, 11:01:46 PM +0000
Gutting, Ginsters. :'( After you outqualified my by a zillion seconds I was pretty sure that second place was well out of my grasp. Had an interesting opening stint, taking far to long to dispatch Pops' Vertigo (which was awesome on the brakes into T1 :notworthy:), and then even longer to find a way by PRibeiro's 360.

Pitted soon after that at about half distance, trying to get the maximum out of both sets of soft tyres. Came back out in no man's land and spent a long time circulating as fast as I dared but way out of touch with everyone else. With less than 10 minutes to go I started gaining on the Darren/SbG battle rapidly - but not rapidly enough to catch them before the end of the race. Then whatever happened happened and I was right behind Darren with not very far at all to go and no sign of Ginsters.

Couldn't quite squeek past Darren's Morgan - if the line was another 100 yards up the road I'd have had him!

In the end I don't think I drove well enough there to have taken second in the championship.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: ginsters sponsored on December 09, 2007, 11:05:48 PM +0000
The silver lining though Ian is that I think you still finished ahead of Dave (in the championship). Great Stuff!  :thumbup2:

Crikey ;D Still stand by what I said though >:(.

I'm glad that incident hasn't affected the final standing as its been a very, very enjoyable season. I know ballasts for both drivers and cars take some flak, some of it warrented, but without it I don't think we would have the classic Morgan, RS, Nissan and even the Vertigo occasionally, battles that have been really enjoyable. Hell I've even battled Paul sometimes :) Thanks to Dave, Piccers, Simon and the others for running yet another fun series. Also gotta say the GT1 boys have been of the highest order all season, ta.

Congrats to the Teeth boys for winning the big toys championship. But you can't win them all  ;). Big thanks to our Paul who, despite winning the championship, still found time to help all the rest of us KC boys.  


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: R. Midderhoff on December 09, 2007, 11:08:04 PM +0000
I'm really sorry for what happened. I know that i cannot make things undone, and i'm ready for the penalty. The race was very good for me, and i was very dissapointed running out of fuel the last lap. So i don't know why i not drove on the grass as i wanted to clear the racing line.

I'm really sorry for that.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Madd-RIP on December 09, 2007, 11:09:02 PM +0000
Don't forget us ickle wickle Moslers SBG!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: ginsters sponsored on December 09, 2007, 11:16:44 PM +0000
Don't forget us ickle wickle Moslers SBG!

Oooops. That cause I never saw you tonight :). Mossies, Morgans, RS, Vertigos and Nissans, and the Fezzas I also forgot. Good stuff :)

Thanks for that R.Midderhoff, thats took some balls :). Apology accepted as its clear that you won't do that again. I should apologise for bringing that up in public, so I will. Sorry. Hope my reaction doesn't put you off racing with us, hope you understand that it was the context that had me fuming.   


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: pribeiro on December 09, 2007, 11:31:52 PM +0000
Congrats Ruskus and Paul  ;)
Had a nice few fun laps with Dave  :fencing: but honestly, Dave was faster than me, i only
was holding him at the corners and having a litlle time to breath on straights   :P
Due to a bad fuel calculate, i had to stop 2 times this time was my fault and no FerrariĀ“s  ;D
Aiming for next season, if you let me be part of it.
But one thing for sure: I WIL NEVER DRIVE A 360 EVER  :tank:

Thanks all for the fun.

Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: psuedo on December 09, 2007, 11:44:06 PM +0000
there was an odd Fezza or two also  ;)

Not that I am likely to use it for next season  :(.....it's just not competetive enough with the others in the class here....it was even out qualified by the Vertigo (with addon Rockets)  :o

It was also Blooooody hard work to drive tonight too. I ache everywhere.  :wheelchair:

race started ok...was keeping in touch with Dave, Pops and PR ahead of me. Lost a bit on them when a recovering porka got between us, but had a good old ding dong with it for a couple of laps, good driving Jan ;). That all ended though when yet another porka that had been off earlier decided to forget all about braking, to pass me into turn 1, and used poor Jan as a brake instead sending him flying. Hope you are going to put a report in Jan....that sort of driving isn't acceptable.

Anyway, after that...I was on my own for the rest of the race...only 10/12 seconds behind though and holding my own reasonably well up to the pits. I have been doing loads of praccy at pit stops, and with the Fezza being good on it's tyres and fuel here I reckoned I could make some back in the stops. Pitted late, 25 mins left and as expected my medium rears were only 6% worn, so just 10 ltr and new soft fronts required. Had a great pit entry, got the limiter on perfectly, great stop dead on the marks, took no time at all to alter the board. Brilliant....I took headphones off and stood up to stretch my aching bones watching the crew at work....and watching, and watching...till I realised I had forgot to switch the engine off  ???  :eek: panicked the button off, cursing my stupidity whilst settling back down for round two. Done at last...floored the pedal....nothing ???......I'd only forgotten to turn the bloooooody engine back on again too. :wheelchair: :hang:

Other than that it was enjoyable. ::)

Thanks everyone for a great season....More of the same next season please.

grats to tonights winners and podiums, and of course to the championship winners.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Jeffrey on December 09, 2007, 11:58:12 PM +0000
How did the setup work for ya Psued?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: psuedo on December 10, 2007, 12:02:52 AM +0000
Setup was pretty decent. thanx...a mix between 'safe' and 'fast' (ish). managed to keep it on the tarmac most of the time....the excusion onto the grass when being lapped as usual. I did find it difficult to get any consistency tonight though....one wheel even slightly out of place and I was a second down in the sector....very fine line.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Truetom on December 10, 2007, 08:18:40 AM +0000
Had a good enough quali time (for me  ;) ) close to the off-line pb. Even so, I was 7th only.
Race started good enough, managed to pass first Shark after his mistake and then Paul Richards and Robert Midderhoff after their unfortunate incident with a GTC car - I was lucky to pass just after the crash. Then Shark passed in this terribly light Lister (might try it myself in the S7  :) ), Paul and Robert were slowing themselves down but even so I lost the position to both through the pits. Zhuhai is tricky with fuel usage, so I topped it up, though I guess I could have had a few seconds shorter pitstop. As it showed, I did it right.  :)
Had some close moments with Gazza until he lost the engine and then Paul had to pit (fuel?) and towards the end I was closing on Robert at the impossible pace. I was guessing he had fuel problems - that or a damaged car. Finished 5th and at the top of my limits - the car could go faster.  :D
GTCs were great, Psuedo even went off (twice I think  ::) ). No need to do that, my friend, half of the track is usually enough even for me.  :D  Also, this circuit permits lapping much better than Sugo. Or Adria.  :scared:
Grats to winners of the race and championship.  :)
And to the Legends for the second place in GTC championship.  :thumbup1:

TT


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Kerr on December 10, 2007, 08:36:21 AM +0000
Congratulations to Paul and CJ on their championship wins and Team Shark and Kerb crawlers on their team wins too.

It's been a bit of a bad season for me. Starting off with two disco's in the first two races right at the death of qualification set the tone for the season ahead.

The disco at Sugo was a sickener as leading by a good margin at the time during the race. 3 disco's after attending all 7 events is not good, Over the last few races it does seem my connection is better now. Fingers crossed.

Had a number of good battles over the year and can't even think of any moments to moan about. Driving this season in general, seems to be better than it was the season before.

I've noticed a great deal of improvement in many drivers which is good to see and I'm sure with more races under their belt, they have more to come.

Hopefully next year I don't get any disco's and I get something sorted out with those pit stops. I'm losing far too much time to drivers around me.

Both Listers took over 20 seconds off me at the pit stops, but Freq also managed a big lump of time too. I'm going to need to pick your brain. Looking at the rest of the Lambo pit stops TT, Gazzer49 and Andy Eves were all similar to me whilst Robert Midderhoff was quicker too, but he did not have enough fuel.

I can't afford to lose so much time to other drivers if I want to stay near the front, but I don't think there is any chance of closing the gap on the Listers.

Well done to everyone taking part this year. Hopefully see you all next season.

I'm looking forward to seeing the track choice and plans for next year.



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Andy Eves on December 10, 2007, 09:17:21 AM +0000
After a power cut, blown engine and a disco at sugo I finaly finished a race  ;D

I may have driven too carefull as I know I can go faster, I just need to build my confidence. My main errors where a very grassy sideways moment and a slow pit stop.

Not sure what happend at the pit stops, cause I was 16 seconds behind the car infront and when I rejoined it was 55 seconds and I was back in the same place? More practice needed!

Thanks and well done to the winners.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Simon Gymer on December 10, 2007, 09:45:31 AM +0000
Qualified well in 4th after spending most of qualifying tweaking my Sugo Sprint setup for Endurance and Zhuhai I spent the last 10-15 minutes nailing some qually laps.

Onto the race and made a hash of the first lap like a noob trying to outbrake FreQ which I was absolutely certain I could do when I  managed to pull along side him before the "suck you in" right hand hairpin, didn't quite make it, FreQ saw me coming and I decided it was better not try and make matters worse by straigtening the wheel and heading off into the gravel.

That silly mistake of my own put me down to second to last in the GT1 field and I spent the rest of the race including the pit stop catching up with people and eventually dispatching everyone except Jeff and FreQ who were too far up the road to catch.

I think the Lister should get the ballast put back to 0kg next season (effectively adding 25kg from this season). It's a problem car cause it's only a tiny bit quicker in out right lap speed at the moment with other cars but in Endurance it's a lot better on fuel and tyres. So if we penalise it too much it will be utterly useless in the Sprints because it's not really much quicker in lap speed. I also find it a very stable car, but that boils down to car characteristics so that's just how each car is better in some areas to others. It's the same in GTC where the Mosler is heavily penalised because it is truely dreadful on fuel, but over a single lap it's faster than the Morgan imho and not quite as quick as the RS. Some cars are better at some things than others and if they were all the same then it would be very boring. Anyway that's for S7 discussion I guess.

What I want to know is what's happened to all the GT1 Ferraris? They're not that badly penalised. Personally I don't like the handling of the GT1 Ferraris, but I'm sure that must be just me.

Well done to everyone taking part this season, I've enjoyed my racing with you in this championship and thanks for the last 5 minute battle with you Brian last night it was great fun.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Paul968 on December 10, 2007, 09:56:10 AM +0000
Quite a nice way to finish of the championship  :) Dan, Madd-RIP and Darren were too fast in qually, and as the race started, Dan and Madd started to stretch away. I managed to stay with Darren though, and after a bit he ran wide at the last slow right letting me up to 3rd. It stayed this way till the pitstops, when Dan stopped for tyres and fuel (I assume because of the time). I pitted several laps later and came out with around 10 secs lead over Dan, and when Madd stopped he ended up even further back. I got a bit worried when I came behind PRibiero on his usual late late pitstop strategy, as passing is not the easiest at Zhuhai with a heavy car, but luckily I took advantage of a lapping GT1 (a kerbie as I remember) to get alongside and he kindly ceded the position. After that the gap to Dan stayed about the same, but I was still not the first GTC - SBG was 15 secs up the road. I half assumed he had done a no tyres stop already as he was lapping a second slower, but when I finally caught up he ducked into the pits. I could then just take it easy to the flag.

Congrats to Ruskus on the win, CJ on the GT1 championship and to the Sharks for the GT1 team title. I'm really pleased that Ian managed to seal 2nd place in the GTCs, which is no more than he deserved after a great season spent driving with ballast more often than not. It also meant that we dominated the team title  :thumbup1: Well done to Dave too for persevering with the Nissan and finishing 3rd - I'm sure it is a great car in real life but it is really awful in the game! Shame to see Paul R have a bit of a mare, as he was in the thick of the fight for podium places in the championship. Thanks to the GT1s who were mostly very polite, although one did make a very late dive down the inside.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Kerr on December 10, 2007, 10:05:54 AM +0000

Well done to everyone taking part this season, I've enjoyed my racing with you in this championship and thanks for the last 5 minute battle with you Brian last night it was great fun.


It would have been better if I won the battle!

I just could not keep you behind. My fuel usage and tyre wear were both higher in the second half. Not enough rubber and not enough fuel.

As you said about the Lister, It's a bit of an odd one.

I think it's about a second a lap quicker than the Lambo for me when I tested at Hockenheim and Spa, which can be sorted out by weight easily. However the fuel usage for endurance gives it a big margin to play with. So like you say, make it equal for endurance and it will be useless for sprints.

I'm sure there is a million arguments to be had before next season.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on December 10, 2007, 10:07:42 AM +0000
A lucky superhuman qualifying just put me ahead of Dave (again!) and is now traditional, Dave steamed past me after a couple of laps despite my best efforts. Oh well, I think it took one more lap this week than Sugo so there's some improvement! :D

I've just remember how I got that place off you now - you lost the back under braking for the tricky left/right chicane and ran over the grass, then like the gentleman you are conceded the place having kept it only by going off track. :euro: :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: popabawa on December 10, 2007, 11:40:34 AM +0000
I've just remember how I got that place off you now - you lost the back under braking for the tricky left/right chicane and ran over the grass, then like the gentleman you are conceded the place having kept it only by going off track.

Interesting that you saw it like that because that's not exactly the way I saw it! lol ;D

Even though I ended up cutting the corner really badly after locking up I didn't gain any advantage (quite the opposite) because I lost all my momentum (super-crucial in the Vertigo) which gave you the opportunity to get close enough for the pass. I did lift off slightly in the end but that was only because it was obvious you were going to make the pass stick and I wanted to give myself a little extra braking space after the earlier screw-up!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Joss on December 10, 2007, 12:52:30 PM +0000
For the second time in a row - I'm really pleased with how that went! ;D
Qually was v close, with Brian pipping me by 3 thou. Couldn't better my time so conceeded 2nd, but relatively happy with my race pace.

At the start I bottled up a little behind Brian and Simon got very close, and went for a move into that hairpin. I'd nearly been off there twice in the practise sessions and thought it would be difficult on cold tyres, so braked on line and saw Simon sail past on the inside and onto the grass. I was thinking "if that sticks, you can have it!"  :laugh:

Then we settled into a rythym. Jeff was a class act out front and Gazza was a little slower behind, but me and Brian had the same pace, only changing with traffic. The gap was always below 2 seconds and for a few laps, only about 6 tenths or so. He did a great job of taking the pressure, so well done.  :)

After losing 1% of engine very early on, I decided to try to be kind to the car for much of the first stint, keeping the wheels in line and staying smooth. The car then felt great towards the end of the stint, still doing mid 29's with only a few laps until the stop. I was surprised to see Brian in so early (L27) and then Jeff as well....so I was leading  :o

I couldn't have gone any further on the fuel, started with 100l, was easy on the engine for a large chunk of the stint, and pitted with 1l left in the tank on L30. That's physically as far as I could get it. The stop was great (see the pit entry  ;D) and I gained loads off Brian and *only* lost 10 seconds to Jeff. Hooray!

Towards the end, Jeff had engine trouble and was easing off. The gap closed a bit, but nothing was ever gonna happen. Then found out a win would have netted 3rd in the champ! Doh!

Congrats to Jeff and a fantastic drive back from Simon.  8)  The GTC's were great (one porker drove off the road to let me by) and hard luck to Brian on the fuel. I did that in S4 round here  :D

I *might* be at the sprint.  :-X
 


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers" on December 10, 2007, 01:01:22 PM +0000
Congratulations to all who competed this season, and special kudos to those with the trophies, mainly us KCers, dont really care about anyone else   ;). Apologies to Evert, who I rammed after he had produced a nice manoeuver to get past me, sorry mate.

A problem seems to be developing for me re discos. The last 2 races I have competed in have been affected by these. Last night I got disco`d just before qualli started, and then again after about 5/6 laps in the race. This is a bit of a mystery as any other multiplayer game I have performs ok, and I can race all night long on the SROU praccy server, as I did on Friday night with my teamies. It just seems that whenever a race night comes along I start to struggle for some reason. Anybody got any ideas, could do with getting this sorted before Tuesdays race?

Thanks once again to Dave, Picnic, and all the mods. And anyone who Ive forgotten.

Cheers

Rob


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Simon Gymer on December 10, 2007, 01:45:56 PM +0000
Anybody got any ideas, could do with getting this sorted before Tuesdays race?

One thing both myself and FreQ did last night was turn Shadows down from FULL to something lower (high in my case). We both got disco'd during practice for no reason and Gizmo suggested we drop the shadow settings as that sometimes prevents discos for some VERY odd reasons. :-\ Well, don't know whether it worked or not, but I didn't disco so make up your own mind.

I must admit on Virgin Media cable I never get disco's but recently with addon tracks and now Zhuhai even I've had some discos during praccy and qually. I can't help thinking it's GTR Manager being the big difference as my cable connection is as solid as ever from everything else I use it for.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Kerr on December 10, 2007, 02:13:26 PM +0000
I don't know if you noticed that 4 or 5 people all got disconnected at the same moment during practice. When roadrunner joined. It just seemed odd?   My pc completely froze during practice


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers" on December 10, 2007, 02:55:20 PM +0000
Anybody got any ideas, could do with getting this sorted before Tuesdays race?

I must admit on Virgin Media cable I never get disco's but recently with addon tracks and now Zhuhai even I've had some discos during praccy and qually. I can't help thinking it's GTR Manager being the big difference as my cable connection is as solid as ever from everything else I use it for.

Im with Virgin and have no problems at all, and I dont run GTR Manager. Ive never had this problem previously, its just started out of the blue.

Cheers

Rob


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Simon Gymer on December 10, 2007, 03:31:46 PM +0000
Im with Virgin and have no problems at all, and I dont run GTR Manager. Ive never had this problem previously, its just started out of the blue.

GTR Manager is the program we used this season on the server end to manage the success ballasts.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Zhuhai - Dec 9
Post by: Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers" on December 10, 2007, 04:08:43 PM +0000
Im with Virgin and have no problems at all, and I dont run GTR Manager. Ive never had this problem previously, its just started out of the blue.

GTR Manager is the program we used this season on the server end to manage the success ballasts.


Aah ok, thanks Shark.

Cheers

Rob