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Is a two race format where Drivers will score combined points from both races!

Practice: 20:00 (10 mins)
Qual: 20:10 (15 mins)
Race 1: 20:25 (19 laps) about 25 mins
Race 2: 20:51 (19 laps) about 25 mins

Track: Curitiba
Cars: Radical SR4 205BHP
Time of Day: 14:00
Weather: Dry
Start: STANDING

Server: SimRacing.org.uk
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

notes
(1) If you are interested in using/seeing custom skins the links for some of the downloads are here:https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3650.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3650.0)
(2) Please don't press escape once you have joined the starting grid or you will get a DQ!
(3) Championship standings are on the series page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=69)
If you are getting Minidumps with the new patch, try creating a new profile from scratch.

Having spent a bit more time with these cars last night I'm just wondering what others think about the handling of the Radicals.

Something about them just feels a bit *wrong* to me but I'm not sure if it a deficiency in the game or whether they just really have weird handling characteristics in real life.

I'm not sure if I can explain this very well but under heavy braking the car seems to go into a weird 'floaty' mode, I don't mean I'm sliding (well, if I am, the sound feedback isn't doing it's job), it's like the steering loses it's sensitivity somehow, then kicks back in as the revs build.

It seems to me that the physics model isn't working well (or at least differently) at lower speeds :-\

I'm not much of a realism buff and don't get me wrong, these are a lot of fun to race, but I'm curious about this.

I'd expect there to be more steering weight at higher speeds as the load on the front tyres for the same angle of steering is greater.

The steering should go very light if you've locked the fronts.

It's entirely possible that the tyre model in use is a bit regressive compared to that in GTR2. It's very hard to tell as I've never driven anything remotely like a Radical in real life.

This sounds like fun, I'll try and make it now that TPG is dead for Euro racers.

Well, I have know idea how such a beast goes in rl either. However, from experience, I have found out that you have to tread quite carefully racing them in Race. Their immense stopping and cornering power mean that if there are just slight differences in braking points it gets very, very tricky (getting in my excuses early  ;)).

Despite that, looking forward to this and sure we can have some good honest fun in them  :)

I don't know if this helps but I put all the tyre sounds settings up to max to get a better idea of when the wheels were locking/sliding. Seemed to help make sense of things for me.

The tyres lock up really easily, which gives the floaty feeling i.e you're not steering.I think these are motorcycle engines in real life - hardly any engine braking and the revs fall away to nothing in a nanosecond. If you do the 2 race option offline, before the start of the second race you get a report on the suspension, brakes etc. ANY heavy braking results in a report of front brake damage.

TC

Maybe it's the feedback that's confusing me then.

I thought I could tell when I'd locked up, it feels similar to pretty much any of the other sims (GTR, rF etc.), exactly how Dave described, i.e. the steering goes really light BUT you can tell that's what's happening.

What I mentioned was something different to that though, as I said, it's hard to describe :-\

Unfortunately Pops, I believe that feeling you are having is fundamentally how RACE simulates it's cars and why you can do bizarred things with the Touring Cars especially. It's almost like sometimes they feel disconnected from tarmac and are running purely through some sort of algorithm that is plain wrong in terms of the feedback it gives to the user. I have the same problem with rFactor, although the wierd feelings are different there is still something fundamentally wrong about the way the car feels and reacts.

I think the reason the Caterhams feel better than any of the other cars is that their "exciting" real life characteristics are a good mask for hiding the underlying problems.

Doesn't make them not fun to drive though, but ultimately if I had to choose a game out of the current crop, GTR 2 is still my favorite feeling game by a long way! :)

read an article somewhere recently where a guy who races Caterhams for real, said the Race07 cars were a bit pathetic for feel and accuracy and that he preferred the rF Caterham mod by a long chalk.
Several 'real' race drivers seem to prefer rF for its more accurate physics portrayal too, but like you guys i find GTR2 'feels' much better to me. I can only go by my track days for comparison, but rF never conveys the same feedback through the wheel that i get on track (PCC07 mod an exception). It could just be that ive never got my DFP or G25 setup up correctly for rF, though i did get Sean Edwards' (FIA GT2 pilot and Porsche champion) G25 rF settings from him and still didnt rate the 'feel' :(
Race07 seems an odd one for FF too, when i tried the FBMW the other week, the G25 felt awesome, but with the touring cars at Macau it was pants  ???

Having just bought Race '07, it's taking me a while to get it setup so it feels right. It seems much easier than GTR2 but maybe that's just the Radicals. Whats a good lap time in the dry with these?

I think somewhere around 1:16 (maybe a bit quicker) will be "good".

Best I've managed is a 1:17.1 so far.

Iam a bit slow then.  :(

I'm also in the 1:17s.

I'm doing 1.16.7, so 1.14.7 will be good.

TC

I'm sure Jeff will set the record straight pretty soon :)

Ok cheers, gives me something to aim for. Best last night after 6 laps or so was 1:19 dead. That was with totally standard setup and tyres and with me still trying to get used to the game and get my wheel setup right, so hopefully I won't be too far off the pace for the game.

Does anyone find the graphics a bit weird on this after playing GTR2? I've got a 8800GTX and had most settings at full but it was still a bit jerky here and there so I turned them all to medium but still at 1600x1200 with full AA and things still seem a bit wierd, especially the power lines and I think the edge of the track in the distance, hard to explain why though.

I've got a 8800GTX with a 24" monitor. It can run at 1900x1200 but it doesn't feel right. I now run it at 1280x768 which feels right, and the aspect is correct.

TC

1.16.2 is my pb, but I've not played it for quite some time, sub 16 is very possible imo.

Probably not gonna test untill right before the race :P. Don't like the Rads, so the less time in them the better :D

Practice is for wimps. :-*
RACE 07 is a turn up and race jobby for me. Got no inclination to practice anything in RACE 07 or GTL. :)

No Simon, practice is for people who can't drive as fast as you!

TC

They take some getting used to for me aw well, such late braking and high corner speeds.

Unfortunately, for me at least, if I don't do at least some practice I'd be downright dangerous!

I can learn simple tracks like Brno, Zhuhai and Curitiba in a few laps, but anything more technical takes me a long time. If I don't get enough practice in I simply can't race safely. I've been working my way through the Race season 1 tracks, I'm up to Zandvort so far.

Try to make this, see you all there hopefully.

I've managed to get hold of Race07 today so hopefully I'll be along too :) I'd better get practicing ;D

Great, looks like we may have a decent turn out :)

Since the new update of race07 patch 1.0.1.6
i just cant join any online server, i even created a new profile,
still doesnt work.
I always have the minidump error message.
I didnt do any skins downloads. 
What could it be?  :-[

Is it cause many of those servers won't have been upgraded yet?

Did our server updated yet? I have the same error message.

I also get the same crash minidump thing though so it's not just you. Something wrong with the patch I guess. :(


Yes it has.

I wonder if the server needs a new profile creating as the patch mentions that the clients should try and create a new profile, but it doesn't mention the server. ???

Thats why i always hated steam  ;D
I hope that is the reason to sort it  :P

To get my copy working on multiplayer after the patch, I had to do a complete reinstall and then create a new profile  ???

To make the edge of the track look nicer in the Nvidia control panel you need to turn up Anisotropic filtering to the max and then set Texture filtering - Negative LOD bias to Clamp.

If you also get a minidump crash, I suggest you all post them HERE (http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=299167) so they can try and fix these bugs.

I've done that as well....

We might not know what we have instore with regards to the patch till we run the first event on Tuesday!  :D

I was able to join the server immediately after the patch yesterday, no mucking about with profiles or anything. ???

I've also just joined the server after the patch,and no problems my end  :)

I see quite a few of those dumps on RSC are despite new profiles and not just when you first join the server either. Does not bode well unless they can fix these crashes asap.

Seems that another problem with this patch is that if, you use any custom skins you'll show up as the WTCC Chevy to everyone else no matter what class your in. lol.
There must be a quick-fix on the way ;)

I really HATE  steam

What's it got to do with Steam? It's Simbin that's released a new really buggy patch to their product, has nothing to do with Steam.

This is a joke that i use in another race site, since old RACE. In fact me and a few lads over there.
Anyway, i have RACE07 online running now, after (with some help of those mates above) i done this:
Deleted AppUpdateStats.blob and ClientRegistry.blob files, run the game and deleted
also the old profile, created a new one and voilá, now i can join online servers.  :)
But i still hate steam  :P

Just got Race 07 :clap:,Yet another chance to show how slow i can really go :wheelchair:. Cant wait to give it a spin on Tuesday after the upset of not getting in at Silverstone on Sunday :'( also about the steam patch,does it upgrade automatically as i cant seem to find it on the steam site..

Look what happend  trying to update steam ???..http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj156/garthhelmer1/steam.gif

hehe, nice one Ade...that window could apply to so many MS windows applications too  ;D

Is the race going ahead with these problems, Possibly asking people to use standard skins only?

Yes, I think we should go ahead and try it. Using the default skins might be a good idea for the first race.
I would advise people to make sure they can connect to an on-line server before they turn up for this event, just to try and avoid an extra issues that could arise.

I've done a few races on-line with the new patch and apart from the skin issues (and my initial reinstall and new profile) I haven't encountered any extra problems yet!

a quick tip, if you need to erase your profile, making a new one with the exact same user name will keep all your set-ups and controller settings, so no big deal there.

I will try to be there tomorrow :)

Any times to aim for?

I'll be there ;D

I've uploaded a time attack lap of 1:15.6 I think, been slightly faster since but not enough to upload another lap :P  Hopefully that's not too far off the pace :) though I've not messed with my setup too much yet.

Got a works meeting, of all evenings at race time, so looks like I will probably miss the show, have a good race.

I should of had a leaguerace tonight at BEracing, but everything went wrong. Here is what happened (I quote admin):

"1) During practice, we were about 10 connected, the server exe decided to call it a day. Logged in on my server and the app had just shut down.
2) Restarted it and it seemed to hold. Then we went to qualy and the server just hang. It didn't stop, but hung. Everyone was still connected, but no-one could see other cars anymore, and no-one received each others chat messages.
3) Decided to have one final attempt. Restarted the dedi app, qual went ok but then same thing happened as we switched to R1 session.
4) Decided to call it a day as there was no point trying to race with a buggy application.
5) As I closed the server app, it showed the message "closing" but it kept on staying there forever, and when I looked in taskmanager, the server app was taking more and more memory and still increasing. There must be some sort of memory leak."

They use skinpack but he also did not create a new profile on dedi system. Maybe it's one of those but let's hope it doesn't happen here tomorrow.

I hope all goes well.       I hopefully will manage to make this one. I better have a little practice before confirming that. I hardly ever play race and think i've only ever done about 6 laps with the radical and have to learn the track too. I better put in a few laps to make sure I'm not too far off the pace.

Is this such a good idea? Reason being I've just deleted and created a new profile on the server and the PLR file is significantly different. If the old one is maintained have you really created a new profile?

Also hate the way my client got secretly updated by Steam, nothing popped up to say it had done it, to delete my old profile.... The Update History within Steam stops with last November's update... All in all I have no idea what version I'm running, but it does connect to the server. On the server the "View RACE 07 Dedicated Server update history" shows the Steam Client update history  :-\

To come clean I do know they're both running the patch because I know how to browse to the executable in Explorer, to right-click and to look at the embedded version number but it really doesn't fill me with confidence :(

Thanks for the info Picnic, seems that may have been some duff information on my part, sorry!
I have in the mean time created a brand new profile, and set everything thing up from scratch, just to be sure.

Would it be ok for a newbie to join you guys tonite at Curitiba if you have room? a spot at the back of the grid is fine,
I know my place, (and my pace !).

This would be my first Race 07 event, but have raced GPL and rFactor online for a few years now.

Have done a few laps in the Radical with a 1:16.9 best (with a low fuel level), so I hope I wont get in the way too much........

Matra (aka the old man)

You are more than welcome Matra, the more the merrier and that laptime isn't bad at all! :)

It's quicker than me :( Stuck in the mid 17's here :'(

Please take the time to read the rules just in case we do things a bit differently to your previous races. Welcome to the best SimRacing league there is ;)

if i do make it, i'll be at the back behind Matra, as not done any laps at curitiba or driven the rads since i got the game months ago  :-[

Race just hasnt floated my boat  :(

I hope all that changes after tonights race :angel:

Welcome on board Matra :)

Looks like there will be quite a few of us behind you, I'm still stuck in the 1:17's too :laugh:

Not enough Porker's for you to salivate over I guess  ;D

I'm with Mark on this one. I just don't feel the urge to play race. Everytime I have time on pc I always find myself playing gtr2.        Hopefully there will be a big field tonight and I can have some fun. I'm a bit worried with the handling  characteristics of the cars and this game it might not be the cleanist of races. Or I might just be judging my own driving shortfalls.

I must say I've not touched it a lot of late either.  With me taking the  RS in the sprints and the enduro getting that set up properly (or as close as I can) has been the priority.  Having not driven the Porkers much, it's almost like relearning the track with the different lines etc.

I'd ask everyone to use sense in tonights race in keeping it all as clean and tidy as possible. It's up to us to set a precedent of what will be expected of each driver during this series.
The events will be moderated as usual and I'm hoping for the same kind of standard we now see in GTR2.
The handling and characteristics may be different, but showing respect to your fellow racers shouldn't be issue. The races are 19 laps long so should give each driver the time and opportunity to make their moves safely.
(these are not personal comments to you Kerr)

I understand Don. I always drive as fair as possible and don't often get involved in incidents. Whereas I can drive in gtr2 in very close range to others drivers with no problems, I worry that the radicals with their razor sharp handling and their stop dead brakes it makes things a much harder. Everything seems to happen so suddenly. It will be fun to see how it goes.

I think you are right Brian and I think we all have to be patient. I'd be very surprised if, like every new sim, there weren't quite a few incidents tonight as we struggle to adapt. If we don't get it tonight, it'll not be long until we get some good stuff from Race.

So please don't ball at me if I punt anyone off tonight ;)

Hi guys, i'm new here, i'm from  brazil and i race on brazilians and american leagues on rFactor and GTR2.

Now i wish to racing in Race07, radical is my favorite car on this sim and i would very like to compete here, can i race on this champ? Need subscription?

Welcome RapHah. All the way from Brazil, wow  :o :D.

You only need to subribe at the forum in order to race in the Race07 series. So you are already able to see the password at the top of the page and can just join tonight :)

Woot! just managed a 1:15.9 but I'll never be able to do it again tonight, I can guarantee that! Starting to get the hang of them a bit and enjoying it a bit more now.

Thanks Ruskus! I see the password, see you on the track tonight :)

I'm struggling badly. I can't get to grips with is.

However I also had a bit of a problem. I was on practice server with Mr BA and when he left my escape button would no longer work.

I had done a few sequences of a few laps and escaped back to the pits. One he left the game I was stuck on the track and could still drive and all other functions seem to work, except escape

Sugar! Think our Adam had the same problem out on track, he had to blow his engine to get back to the pits!?
C'mon Simbin get that new patch out!!

Word from Simbim:

These are two major things causing problems with the patch

1. Custom skins
2. Replay saving "off" causes crashing

We are working on it to patch it as soon as possible


So maybe turn replays on or something, maybe it fixes something  ???

Oh no.

Hopefully everyone will get in fine and hopefully we will not suffer many disconnections.

What action can we take to keep problems to a minimum?

Maybe worth highlighting any measures

Yeah, bit random.  Bernie was hotlapping, and I wanted to change my setup ... tried to pit (HAHAHA - that was NEVER gonna work!) etc.  In the end I blew the engine up out of frustration (amazing what happens when you're doing 100+mph in 1st :D) .... and once I had finished watching the smoke clear .... it let me back to the garage?!?!?

So ... what's the plan gents ....

I'm not sure we can do anymore than ask people not to use custom skins, recreate a profile, and turn on replays! ::)  ???

Gonna test now. Also alert TS drivers - team speak isnt working!!

Anyone suffering CTD's after installing patch try turning replays ON, as mentioned by JR. Done the trick for me, after 15 mins trying ::)

After i sorted the minidump error a few days ago,
i found the very same problem tonight with all online servers
i tried to join. Deleted the same files, created a new profile,
but still not be able to join. >:(
Cheers



P.S. Now im reading the replays on stuff....... :cursing:...now its too late  ::)

Great turn out and I wish you all good luck. It should be fun :)

For me, I didn't have the impetus to pracci and my interest soon waned in race after DG was booted from just behind me. I shall find my fun elsewhere. Race generally leaves me cold.

Did notice ruddy annoying join and leave lags, which I think are the norm?

Can't say I noticed any but I did have an annoying chat message about "Load 1 Car: Return to Garage" or something  :-\

Sorry - couldn't be bothered to sit there for 20 mins for the 2nd race after my first got ended for me  :'(

Pb in quali, and was running well in 2nd until I made a few mistakes and let Zacari and Backo through, just had to keep Bernie behind so was a bit lonely for a while.

2nd race was much different, I made a screamer of a start and got up to 3rd behind Dave and Freq with Jeff right behind, didn't take him long to get past and then I just had to try and get past Freq and Dave.

Dave made a mistake and then I took a few laps to get back up to Freq with Zacari, darting around behind me, we were three abreast going into T1 but Freq came off worse unfortunately and spun (sorry) then it was an epic fight for the remainder of the race to keep Zacari behind.

 I knew my set would start to wane at the end and sure enough it started to understeer, but I luckily had just enough to get 2nd.  :o

Thoroughly enjoyable (if hard work) and good clean racing and an excellent turnout. ;D

Grats to Jeff, Backo and Zacari for other podiums

That was hard going.

Qualified far better than I had hoped.

Race was going not too badly. I was holding my own until Freq squeezed past.

Later I made a mistake and ran off hitting the tyres. The steering was knocked off and I had to drive turning the opposite way to keep the car straight.

I had a good gap to the cars behind but I could not keep the car on the track, it was too badly damaged.

Mistake after mistake the others caught me and I ended up crashing out.

Started last in the second race and opted to change set up, wrong move.

Had a minor coming together at first bend and I was left facing the wrong way and miles behind.

Tried my best to catch but I could not. Made my way up a bit but the other drivers were so equally matched I could not gain any ground.

I was? ??? Two 7th places doesn't really tell the story of my races but I think I'd have noticed getting booted. Unless there's another 'DG' I haven't though of... This is all from memory as having behaved impeccably during the race, Race crashed when I tried to view my "fixed" client replays. ::)

Started from exactly in the middle of the field in race 1 (13 of 25) - got an okay start and shot past Picnic before settling into some space behind the fast pack and ahead of the slower cars. Judging from the way people were walking away from me on the straights I went for a bit more wing than most, but the payback was excellent traction out of the slower stuff. Was just about keeping tabs on the car ahead (SbG I presume from the above) but something or other happened - think I ran wide out of the fast chicane, and found myself back in the thick of things. Then had a top notch battle with TinMan, swapping places several times before I finally managed to make a break for it - hopefully I didn't use too much of the left side of the fast chicane when I made the final pass. :o

Should have finished the race in 8th and thus got pole for race 2 but came out of the final corner to find FreQ sitting fuelless on the grid so I had to 'settle' for 7th. ::)

Race 2 was mad - from second I got the perfect start and led easily into the first corner. I'd taken off a notch of rear wing in the hope that I could find better straight line speed but in hindsight it didn't make a whole lot of difference, but did spoil the car's ability to get into and out of the hairpin.

Somehow I managed to do a great job for three laps holding off the much faster pack behind until FreQ got by; that opened the floodgates and I ended up running off in the first sequence of corners as the rest of the quick guys streamed by.

That put me back into a battle with... you guess it... TinMan! ;D Another excellent battle and again I finally got the break by getting ahead into the fast chicane - again, not really sure how much curb on the left I used, if it was too much (I'll check the replay) I'll report myself for a damned good slapping. After that it was a matter of keeping my cool, picking up another place when Mark McClean spun to finish 7th yet again. Must be my 'thing'. :laugh:

Sorry Brian, I think that might have been me.  :-[

At the time I thought it was just a door to door contact...  I looked behind and saw a pack of cars right on my tail, I just assumed you was one of them...  If I had known you had spun I would have waited for you..

Sorry it ruined your race..  :-[


I would just like to thank Don for all his hard work in organising these events.  Well done!  :thumbup1:  

No worries Madd, I probably shouldn't have tried to go round the outside of you and Zacari  :P

The only place I seemed to be fast was the entrance to T1, everywhere else the time just eeked away and couldn't really see where it was going. Pleased to set a best lap of a 1:16.1 as I couldn't get out of the 17's in practise, but also glad I only spent an hour practising (having not touched Race since the start of Dec).

Everyone's soooo close in this game, great if you're battling, but one wrong move and you're toast! Had a good battle with Bara in R1 and was fun running 1-2 with Dave in R2. I weaved in front of Jeff just to be annoying ;D but didn't realise how much speed these sh*tboxes lose when you turn, I lost about 5 or 6mph and he shot past!  :'(  On the straight!

V pleased with 5th overall, well above what I thought I'd get. I don't really like Race 07 and hate these Radicals, so points are the aim.  :-\   
6 laps from the end of R2, I wanted to turn some music on! When there's a gap in front and behind, a bit of trance would be nice I think  8)

No problems Dave G - you drove very fairly. My apologies to Adam Parle- I didn't see you alongside until I was turning in.

TC

Crazily close finishing in both races, beating Backo to 2nd in race 1 by about 0.1s and missing out on 2nd to Madd in race 2 by about 0.2s!  I was running with 1 wing but still couldn't get any run on the straights really.  Setup understeered alot from lap 5 onwards too, so that's something to work on for race 3 :)

Grats JR on walking away with both races, and everyone who filled the server :o 8)

Seconded! :thumbup2: Excellent turnout and a generally very high standard of driving, bodes well for the future of the series. 8)

Bit of a mixed evening.  PB in qually (with a race setup) ... a poor start and then "EVASIVE ACTION" in the first couple of corners  ;D .... after that it went pretty well. It was really tricky getting by, you had to be really on your guard.  In the end I ended up running behind Dave and TinMan.  I was hoping on making something more of the race .... bu I had one mistake which cost me a chance ... and then I ran out of BLOODY FUEL .... what a knobber ...

Race 2, move evasive action in the first couple of corners again... then pretty good racing.  Got by Don diving into T1 and that was about it.  Pops let me by ;) and then I was trying to get by TinMan once more.  Got alongside in T1, but these beasties are tricky to see ot of and Tinman just clipped me ... got a bit squirrely but carried on going.  After that I had an opportunity which came just as my good lady wife started talking to me - DOH!!!  Doing a hundred and something into T1 I just couldn't nail it and that was that...

Still, not too bad an evening.

Grats on a great drive Bernie.  Good job everyone else ... good fun.

ps.  Well happy with a 1:16.6 in the race!

I find once you get down to low wing settings the top speed doesn't really change that much in these pocket rockets, but the balance of the car is more affected.
I was running 2 wing, and I was still able to keep ahaed of you on the straights......just!  :D

Damn close stuff!

You dissapeared, game lagged and I put two and two together  :) And there is only one DG.

Excellent turnout was a credit to your hard work Don. Good luck with rest of series  :thumbup2:

I don't think I'll ever get used to these cars! :D

I think I got 9th and 11th which was better than I expected.

Apologies to whoever I tagged at the start of race 1, there didn't seem to be any contact but I may have helped you spin :( After that I was unspectacularly consistent but had lots of close racing and picked up places due to mistakes.

I drove very poorly in race 2 though making lots of mistakes (which only hurt myself fortunately!).

Thanks to Don for organising, great turnout and pretty excellent driving from what I saw :thumbup1:

Does anybody know who "onlinemike" is? Just trying to import the results...

Was pleased with my qually lap as it was only 0.1 slower than my PB. There were a lot of cars very close so it was gonna be hectic.

At the start of Race 1 I was afraid to have too much wheelspin and was gentle with releasing the clutch, however, these things lack torque and I ended up crawling off the line.
Madd and I were heading towards T1 and were both overly cautious as we were going very slow through the chicane with massive gapes between us :). Better too much than too little :D.
I couldn't really create a gap untill it was a few sec bigger all of a sudden. After that I could drive till the finish.
My tyres lasted excellent and I was doing faster and faster laps and setting the fastest laps in my last lap  :). Expected them to be shot after half the distance.
Saw an amazing finish between Zacari and Backo  :o

For Race 2 I knew I could just rev at the start and let the clutch fly off. I was lucky that the spot infront of me was empty and I could overtake Bernie shortly after the start. There were 3 Shark cars infront of me at that point. Green Hell for some teams ;). Before braking into T1 I past Mark as well and was side by side with Zacari and right behind Madd. With a better entry I could overtake Zacari and hunt down Madd :P. He had to avoid Freq's car which gave me a run on the inside at the hairpin.
Lap later me Dave and FreQ were at the s/f straight, FreQ in 2nd past the leading Dave and me and Dave were side by side heading into T1. Dave held is line very well (although my line was stupishly tight :P) and he stayed infront. But after the chicane I got a run out of him before the other corner and outbraked him. 
Like FreQ said he was weaving on the straight to annoy me (still that isn't allowed  :nono: ...weaving, annoying me is open season :P) and I was thinking what the hell ya doing. Ofcourse you lose a lot of speed. On a straight even 1mph makes a difference and a 600bhp GT loses speed from weaving. So it was a very easy pass, thank you very much :).

Again I could do faster laps the whole race long, and did a racelap which was only 0.3 slower than my quallypace. So for me the tyres were brilliant. And I was running wing 1-1 as I could only see the straight as an overtaking place :).

I love these kind of cupraces where everyone races the same material. The grid looked lovely with all those colors and the Radicals really enjoyed me more than expected.

Thirded...:D. Thanks Don  :thumbup2: . Let's hope the turnout is this good every race, as you deserve it  :thumbup1:

Good races. Congrats to JR for dominating and Matt/Bernie/Zacari for a great drive too. Shame the fuel estimate isn't accurate enough but I know now - after running out half way around the last lap (that was with 1 extra lap of gas so I guess I was cutting it fine, but noticed the weight makes a huge difference to times so didn't want to overfill!)

Some good close racing by all. Was behind Bernie for most of the laps in both races, with FreQ in close tow too. I really started to get into it in R2. Think i've only done 1 race in these before (on publics) and I see what whoever it was that was saying about the steering going 'weird' under braking means now, but it's not a show-stopper just a bit odd after GTR/L/P&G.

Good fun c u next time!!

There really was nothing in it. 21 cars chasing the first corner down I was expecting much worse.

I saw the accident happening but could not get out the way. It was an accident and I've no issues.

As for ruining my race..... I managed that myself.

I do find these cars very hard to race very close to others cars. I may learn in time.

I very rarely play this game and it showed.

I was worried before tonight that the game would either go wrong or the race would end up a farce. Neither happened.

It was rather an action packed night and well done to all.  It was good to see everything working well.

Turn out so far this season has been strong in all classes. Keep it up guys!

*Looks sheepishly at the floor*
Sorry unkie Ruskie  :boat:

Yea, it was pretty stupid. I got taught a lesson in record time by the seniors though didn't I?  :'(

Had a nap now so I'm more myself (had an exam today and was very tired during the race). I do still view Race 07 as "fun" racing, it doesn't feel as serious to me as UKGTR especially with the reverse grid. Rest assured I'd only do stupid/reckless things to Jeff  :angel: and the Madd/Zacari incident thankfully only resulted in me jettisoning myself off the track.

I choose to blame everything on my hormonal Junior status  ;D  Gd racing though.

I just wanted to say a big thanks to everyone that turned out yesterday for giving Race your support.
I'm very proud to say that from where I was those were the 2 cleanest and fairest races I have had on-line since playing this game and I would imagine any young blood that turns up for our races will/should be equally impressed with the high standards we have set :thumbup2:

I had a blast in both my races, plenty of action even at the back where I was.
Think those Radicals have started to grow on me.

What amazing race I had in race 1 with Zacari!!!! ;D I realy enjoyed it!!!!Then I had to leave,so many thanks for nice race guys ,now I'm looking forward to next one!!!Congrat to podium,well done! :clap:

Yeah - that's Oilseal's Steam-induced new profile.

TC

Ah, I wondered if that was it, thanks Tom. Results now imported and on display.

I'm afraid these rads just dont do it for me. I thought the graphics were great and FFb felt good and can see that there would be some close action racing, but the cars feel a little too arcadey-chuck about-ey for me.
Not slating the game at all just a personal taste thing for this class of car, they dont float my boat in real life nor the virtual one.  :(

It was my first time using them in anger and only my 2nd 'Race' race so was a little be-wildered with the menus etc. Just took the default setup and was getting creamed on the fast 5th gear corners with a ton of understeer. Got upto the giddy heights of 15th at one point, dropping back after a slow understeer off at the hairpin.
I then ran out of fuel on lap 13  ::)

Will try the caterhams at next round if able but the rad series is not for me.

I had alot of fun last night (in the races I mean ;)) but I must firstly apologise to whoever I shunted off on the last corner (picnic maybe?).

I qualified 8th which I was very happy with, but I was just getting too damn excited! I had a crap start as it was the first actual race in 'Race' and I didn't know what the situation with the lights was! I found people seemed to have different braking points and I had a couple of very slight rear enders near the start so I eased off a bit and a couple of folk got through as a result. I then spun, lost a load of places but caught up with those in front very quickly and decided just to go for it, unfortunately, either I broke too late (most likely) or whoever was in front broke too early and we ended up hitting side by side and he went off. I was ok, and stoped but it looked like whoever I hit was out of the game so I kept going.

I was later thinking about how pissed off I'd have been if someone did it to me and forgot what corner I was at and came off in the same place!! (karma!)

Had a lot of fun, but need to just calm down and not get too excited!

Good start to the Race league. Excellent turnout, and I thought driving standards were very good. Thanks for organising this Don.

Has anyone managed to view a replay yet? I can load the server replays but it always CTDs after anywhere between 1 and about 10 attempts to change which car I'm viewing from.

My in-game replays of both races work fine. Can view from any car, any view.

TC

I get problems like that sometimes, I think it's if I FFW or RWD  the replay and change the car views.

On a side note, I posted a crappy little video on google video, the first couple of corners look quite good though with so many cars, and it's worth watching until I get over taken by the orange car (there's a replay from a different angle which shows how close it was!)

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4375496539777519221&q=simracing.org.uk&total=16&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3

Nice little vid - must admit I've not had a look at the replay.

I was in an orange Radical - dunno if it was me that cut across your bow or not?  Pops was in one aswell so he might have been the car infront?

Thanks for the vid BA, looked fun :)

I 'THINK' it was me actually in the orange one, cutting infront of B.A.!!
I do seem to remember that moment. A bit TOO close for comfort :D
- didn't feel that close from the cockpit tho in my defence :D

The clash of the Baracus' :)

Don't swipe my car fool!

Yeah, I thought I was further back than that .... and I was!  Didn't see many orange cars though (I didn't get to see the front of the grid :-\) - hence my post.